July 9, 2025 • 10 mins
With the additions of Olynyk and Luke Kornet, the Spurs are now 12-deep.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
I want to make sure we pass this along to everybody.
Ticket seven sixty and iHeartRadio are still very much involved
and taking care of our friends and neighbors up in
the Kerrville area and Comfort and Hunt and Ingram where
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and help donate funds to the relief effort up there,
(00:24):
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
Much as you can or wish to do so.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Those people up there are going to take a while
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Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yeah, and again remember that's one hundred percent of that
goes to them. iHeart does not get anything whatsoever. It's
just we're trying to trying to help out as much
as as much as we can. And again, if you're
able to anything, even if it's a dollar, you know,
anything anything is welcomed. So, like Andy said, uh, whether
(01:11):
you're a listener to here with tickets seven sixty or
if you have friends that live somewhere else, just tell
him to go to their iHeart iHeart station that they
possibly listen to. And it's on all of our iHeart
family pages right there on the front page.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
All right, let's talk about the Spurs with the addition
of Kelly OLYNNOK. And he was in New Orleans and
then went to the Wizard or the Wizard's never really
you know, got a replace.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
One, he got shipped, he got off season.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
So uh and so now he's a San Antonio Spur
and I'm assuming he'll be here when the season begins,
and I would I would start him. I think he's
the starting four or five however you want to wherever
you want to put.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Opposite of Wimby.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I would go with three guards with Vaselle, Castle and
Fox and that would be my starting lineup. Now, I
know I have vast years of coaching knowledge, and I'm
I'm not telling Mitch Johnson, and not that he would
care to listen to me anyway.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
You never know, but you.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Know there's sometimes I am right on this show about
some certain things. Occasionally it happens, only it happens, but
that would be my expert starting five. And then you've
got to look at the bench. And the bench now
is seven players deep. And you've got Harper, who you
know is going to get a lot of minutes. You've
got Champagnie and Keldon Johnson and Barnes and so hand returning.
(02:28):
You've got Carter Bryant, and you have Luke Cornett. Now,
I am a big believer that if you can trust
your bench, and I think this bench can be trusted
if those are the seven guys coming off the bench,
if you could trust your bench, then you don't necessarily
have to play your starters more than about thirty minutes
(02:50):
a game, probably in the high twenties, so Fox Castle,
the Cell, Wimby probably in the high twenties, all in it,
and probably in.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
The low twenties.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And then you just put everybody else in in some
type of rotation where you have a balance every time
that you're out there. You need somebody that can handle
the ball, you need somebody that can distribute it, you
need somebody that can shoot it, and you need somebody
that can defend it.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
And protect the rim.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
So I would imagine, in a best case scenario, assuming
that there's not a lot of off nights or injuries
that prevent them everybody from playing seventy eight plus games,
that Wimby will if he leaves the floor, that either
Louke Cornett or Olnic or both are on the floor
(03:36):
to give you rep protection and paint defense defense. I
think Olinic gives you week side rebounding help, which is
something that we talked about, and Sodas Cornett, both of
the things that we talked about earlier in the offseason
about where the Spurs needs may be as they round
out their roster. I think it's going to be hard
(03:57):
in some games to get all seven of those guys
any of minutes to where they have any kind of
a rhythm, And especially as we get into the playoffs.
My guess is that one or two of those guys
don't play a lot. But it's very important for a
team to be able to have the depth that I
think the Spurs now have because the regular season is
a grind, it is a marathon, it's not a sprint.
(04:19):
The playoffs are more demanding. You can go on a
two game losing streak or even a three game losing
streak in the regular season and be Okay, not that
you want to, but you can.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
You can't do that in the playoffs or your season ends.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
And so my guess is that those first five guys
I mentioned with fox Castle, Viseel, Wimby Atlytic will be
the core of starters, and Harper Cornett, my guess Barnes
and Keldon Johnson will be the next guys off the bench,
and Champagne and Bryant will get minutes that they may
(04:53):
not get in the postseason. I think that's what Indiana did,
It's what Oklahoma City did to be able to go
as deep as they could on their to have fresh
players during the regular season. If one of those starters
wants a night off, then somebody else gets a little
bit of extra minutes. But if you can keep your
starters in the high twenties and your backups in the
low twenties, there's a really good chance you're going to
(05:14):
have a pretty fresh team come to playoffs.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, and one player that, unless I misheard you, that
your figure out that you're forgetting as well is Jeremy Sohn.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah. I'm so in in there.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
But I just don't see so it is such a
versatile player. He's a Swiss army. Yeah, he can play
all five positions. If he needed him too, I would
say four. You know, he's probably not going to play center.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah, but unless Draymond Green is your starting center exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
If a team's going small, he can match that. But
he can play so many positions because and that's always
good to have, But it also means that he doesn't
necessarily specialize in anyone exactly. And so if if I
don't need you tonight, it's not that I'm bad at you,
I just don't need you tonight. Yeah, and you may
he may play three games in a row where he
(05:58):
gets twenty minutes and then there just happens to be
a matchup situation where he doesn't play at all.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Well, but it could also entail of how you were
talking about. Yes, there's the maximum amount of minutes per
game that is allotted to distribute out, but it could
be some something along the lines of, now we're not
having to like you mentioned Wenby, does it have to
play thirty two to thirty five.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Minute do year?
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Fox doesn't have to unless you know, hey, they're on
a heater thirty thirty points, well, whatever you can distribute it.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
But when the playoffs rolled around, the guy that's making
getting twenty eight minutes is probably going to play thirty five,
and the guy that's playing thirty two minutes is probably
going to play thirty eight. And the bench guy that
was playing sixteen to twenty is now playing ten to fourteen.
And so those look at Oklahoma City, for example, they
basically brought they had eleven guys all seatson long, except
(06:48):
in the blowout wins or losses they had in the playoffs,
that was nine.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
They brought Casey Wallace off the bench.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
They brought like the other Jay Will got in some
games and didn't get it, got dnps others, and he
was a very important part of the of the piece.
But that was Caruso and h Wallace and Wig and Wiggins.
Those were the three main guys they brought off the bench. So,
h sometimes you're going to shorten your bench when every
(07:16):
possession is more critical, and then if you have foul
trouble to be able to have.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
A guy that you know you can trust.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
That's the thing that I think that that separated Oklahoma
City in Indiana from everyone else. When the Stars went
off the floor, were they able to maintain the lead
or extend it, or if they did lose it, did
they only lose one or two possessions. If you have
a twelve point lead and you go to your bench
and now they're back, even, well that didn't do you
any good to have that bench. If you have a
(07:42):
twelve point lead, when you go to your bench and
they and it's eight to fourteen, a mission accomplished. You
didn't give up too much ground, and you're you're gonna
win a lot more games. But they have a lot
of versatility and because of winby coming off the injury,
because of of like for example, Has Barnes being a
long term a longtime veteran in this league. The rest
(08:04):
of the team is relatively young, and you're going to
be able to manage those minutes. And if the bench
can can hold its weight in the regular season, this
could be a special season. And I think at worst
case scenario they can get into the high forties with
total wins with this roster and maybe a little bit more.
The only thing I'm concerned about is three point shooting efficiency,
(08:28):
and I mean numbers. Can they get fifteen sixteen eighteen threes.
I do think that's important. Olynics a forty one percent
career three point shooter and champagnees at thirty seven percent,
So those that may be where a lot of the
three point shooting comes from. And I think Dearon Fox
is a very underrated outside shooter as well.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Well.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Career wise, Kelly is thirty seven thirty se thirty seven,
but in last year that he played for Toronto and
New Orleans, it was he at least for forty one,
he was about forty one, forty two percent. He's again
he's a very big guy. Six eleven, Uh, two.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Hundred and forty. I think something along those lines.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah, two forty six eleven, been in the league for
a while, thirty four years old.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
It's a good pickup. It's a good pickup.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
And you got and you I know that a lot
of people liked Brandham and Wesley, but they weren't going
to play much anyway.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
That Yeah, that's that's the unfortunate side.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
They're now going someplace where they can actually play and
get minutes and see if they can blossom their careers.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
With with the need for a big they gave up
two guys that probably would never see the floor except
in mop up duty in practice. Uh and if the
game was lopsided, you know, one way or the other.
All Right, the Oklahoma City Thunder signed or signing Chet Holmgren.
They're giving him fifty million a year for the next
five years. We'll talk about how that impacts everything. And
(09:58):
Dion had some conversations today at media Day up at
the Big twelve meetings.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
We'll discuss that too. It's the Andy Everage show on
the ticket
I want to make sure we pass this along to everybody.
Ticket seven sixty and iHeartRadio are still very much involved
and taking care of our friends and neighbors up in
the Kerrville area and Comfort and Hunt and Ingram where
all the devastating floods happened this past weekend. If you
would like to be a part of the relief effort
and help donate funds to the relief effort up there,
(00:24):
go to our website at Ticket seven sixty dot com
and donate as.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Much as you can or wish to do so.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Those people up there are going to take a while
to rebuild, and obviously those who lost loved ones, it's
still going to be a lot of pain that they're
going through right now. So any efforts that we can
do to make sure that their lives are a little
bit clearer and better today, please donate to that Central
Texas Really Fund.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yeah, and again remember that's one hundred percent of that
goes to them. iHeart does not get anything whatsoever. It's
just we're trying to trying to help out as much
as as much as we can. And again, if you're
able to anything, even if it's a dollar, you know,
anything anything is welcomed. So, like Andy said, uh, whether
(01:11):
you're a listener to here with tickets seven sixty or
if you have friends that live somewhere else, just tell
him to go to their iHeart iHeart station that they
possibly listen to. And it's on all of our iHeart
family pages right there on the front page.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
All right, let's talk about the Spurs with the addition
of Kelly OLYNNOK. And he was in New Orleans and
then went to the Wizard or the Wizard's never really
you know, got a replace.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
One, he got shipped, he got off season.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
So uh and so now he's a San Antonio Spur
and I'm assuming he'll be here when the season begins,
and I would I would start him. I think he's
the starting four or five however you want to wherever
you want to put.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Opposite of Wimby.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I would go with three guards with Vaselle, Castle and
Fox and that would be my starting lineup. Now, I
know I have vast years of coaching knowledge, and I'm
I'm not telling Mitch Johnson, and not that he would
care to listen to me anyway.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
You never know, but you.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Know there's sometimes I am right on this show about
some certain things. Occasionally it happens, only it happens, but
that would be my expert starting five. And then you've
got to look at the bench. And the bench now
is seven players deep. And you've got Harper, who you
know is going to get a lot of minutes. You've
got Champagnie and Keldon Johnson and Barnes and so hand returning.
(02:28):
You've got Carter Bryant, and you have Luke Cornett. Now,
I am a big believer that if you can trust
your bench, and I think this bench can be trusted
if those are the seven guys coming off the bench,
if you could trust your bench, then you don't necessarily
have to play your starters more than about thirty minutes
(02:50):
a game, probably in the high twenties, so Fox Castle,
the Cell, Wimby probably in the high twenties, all in it,
and probably in.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
The low twenties.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And then you just put everybody else in in some
type of rotation where you have a balance every time
that you're out there. You need somebody that can handle
the ball, you need somebody that can distribute it, you
need somebody that can shoot it, and you need somebody
that can defend it.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
And protect the rim.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
So I would imagine, in a best case scenario, assuming
that there's not a lot of off nights or injuries
that prevent them everybody from playing seventy eight plus games,
that Wimby will if he leaves the floor, that either
Louke Cornett or Olnic or both are on the floor
(03:36):
to give you rep protection and paint defense defense. I
think Olinic gives you week side rebounding help, which is
something that we talked about, and Sodas Cornett, both of
the things that we talked about earlier in the offseason
about where the Spurs needs may be as they round
out their roster. I think it's going to be hard
(03:57):
in some games to get all seven of those guys
any of minutes to where they have any kind of
a rhythm, And especially as we get into the playoffs.
My guess is that one or two of those guys
don't play a lot. But it's very important for a
team to be able to have the depth that I
think the Spurs now have because the regular season is
a grind, it is a marathon, it's not a sprint.
(04:19):
The playoffs are more demanding. You can go on a
two game losing streak or even a three game losing
streak in the regular season and be Okay, not that
you want to, but you can.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
You can't do that in the playoffs or your season ends.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
And so my guess is that those first five guys
I mentioned with fox Castle, Viseel, Wimby Atlytic will be
the core of starters, and Harper Cornett, my guess Barnes
and Keldon Johnson will be the next guys off the bench,
and Champagne and Bryant will get minutes that they may
(04:53):
not get in the postseason. I think that's what Indiana did,
It's what Oklahoma City did to be able to go
as deep as they could on their to have fresh
players during the regular season. If one of those starters
wants a night off, then somebody else gets a little
bit of extra minutes. But if you can keep your
starters in the high twenties and your backups in the
low twenties, there's a really good chance you're going to
(05:14):
have a pretty fresh team come to playoffs.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, and one player that, unless I misheard you, that
your figure out that you're forgetting as well is Jeremy Sohn.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah. I'm so in in there.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
But I just don't see so it is such a
versatile player. He's a Swiss army. Yeah, he can play
all five positions. If he needed him too, I would
say four. You know, he's probably not going to play center.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah, but unless Draymond Green is your starting center exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
If a team's going small, he can match that. But
he can play so many positions because and that's always
good to have, But it also means that he doesn't
necessarily specialize in anyone exactly. And so if if I
don't need you tonight, it's not that I'm bad at you,
I just don't need you tonight. Yeah, and you may
he may play three games in a row where he
(05:58):
gets twenty minutes and then there just happens to be
a matchup situation where he doesn't play at all.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Well, but it could also entail of how you were
talking about. Yes, there's the maximum amount of minutes per
game that is allotted to distribute out, but it could
be some something along the lines of, now we're not
having to like you mentioned Wenby, does it have to
play thirty two to thirty five.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Minute do year?
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Fox doesn't have to unless you know, hey, they're on
a heater thirty thirty points, well, whatever you can distribute it.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
But when the playoffs rolled around, the guy that's making
getting twenty eight minutes is probably going to play thirty five,
and the guy that's playing thirty two minutes is probably
going to play thirty eight. And the bench guy that
was playing sixteen to twenty is now playing ten to fourteen.
And so those look at Oklahoma City, for example, they
basically brought they had eleven guys all seatson long, except
(06:48):
in the blowout wins or losses they had in the playoffs,
that was nine.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
They brought Casey Wallace off the bench.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
They brought like the other Jay Will got in some
games and didn't get it, got dnps others, and he
was a very important part of the of the piece.
But that was Caruso and h Wallace and Wig and Wiggins.
Those were the three main guys they brought off the bench. So,
h sometimes you're going to shorten your bench when every
(07:16):
possession is more critical, and then if you have foul
trouble to be able to have.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
A guy that you know you can trust.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
That's the thing that I think that that separated Oklahoma
City in Indiana from everyone else. When the Stars went
off the floor, were they able to maintain the lead
or extend it, or if they did lose it, did
they only lose one or two possessions. If you have
a twelve point lead and you go to your bench
and now they're back, even, well that didn't do you
any good to have that bench. If you have a
(07:42):
twelve point lead, when you go to your bench and
they and it's eight to fourteen, a mission accomplished. You
didn't give up too much ground, and you're you're gonna
win a lot more games. But they have a lot
of versatility and because of winby coming off the injury,
because of of like for example, Has Barnes being a
long term a longtime veteran in this league. The rest
(08:04):
of the team is relatively young, and you're going to
be able to manage those minutes. And if the bench
can can hold its weight in the regular season, this
could be a special season. And I think at worst
case scenario they can get into the high forties with
total wins with this roster and maybe a little bit more.
The only thing I'm concerned about is three point shooting efficiency,
(08:28):
and I mean numbers. Can they get fifteen sixteen eighteen threes.
I do think that's important. Olynics a forty one percent
career three point shooter and champagnees at thirty seven percent,
So those that may be where a lot of the
three point shooting comes from. And I think Dearon Fox
is a very underrated outside shooter as well.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Well.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Career wise, Kelly is thirty seven thirty se thirty seven,
but in last year that he played for Toronto and
New Orleans, it was he at least for forty one,
he was about forty one, forty two percent. He's again
he's a very big guy. Six eleven, Uh, two.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Hundred and forty. I think something along those lines.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah, two forty six eleven, been in the league for
a while, thirty four years old.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
It's a good pickup. It's a good pickup.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
And you got and you I know that a lot
of people liked Brandham and Wesley, but they weren't going
to play much anyway.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
That Yeah, that's that's the unfortunate side.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
They're now going someplace where they can actually play and
get minutes and see if they can blossom their careers.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
With with the need for a big they gave up
two guys that probably would never see the floor except
in mop up duty in practice. Uh and if the
game was lopsided, you know, one way or the other.
All Right, the Oklahoma City Thunder signed or signing Chet Holmgren.
They're giving him fifty million a year for the next
five years. We'll talk about how that impacts everything. And
(09:58):
Dion had some conversations today at media Day up at
the Big twelve meetings.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
We'll discuss that too. It's the Andy Everage show on
the ticket
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