April 30, 2025 • 11 mins
Best potential landing spots for the Bucks superstar.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Lots to talk after last night's loss for the Bucks
that Jannis will be on the way out of Milwaukee
and headed to another team. The Bucks I think have
to start over. If you look at their roster, it's
not very good. And unless Joannis says, you know what,
I'll stick around through the rebuild. I don't ever want
to go anywhere else. This is my home, this store
I want to be. And then maybe at some point
(00:26):
you can move off the Lillard contract if you can
find a suitor for him after he shows he can
come back from surgery. But the problem with the Bucks
is is that they need draft picks.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
You don't.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You need to build your team very much like what
the Spurs have done the last three or four years
in Oklahoma City. They got Cason Wallace, they got Home Grind,
they got Shay.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
They built a really good team. And the Spurs, you.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Know, they started all this back with Keldon Johnson and
Vessel several years ago, and they've added more pieces to
the puzzle each and every year. Obviously, the biggest piece
was Wimby. I think they would have got close to
the play in game had Wimby not gotten the d
vein thrombosis and been able to play the last what
was it thirty games of the season something like that, thirty.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Four almost yeah, almost close to forty, because I think
he played forty two games, but that's not counting some
of like the he missed five, I think, yeah, something
like that. I think, yeah, I think it was thirty
five thirty eight games left when he bailed out for
the year to take care of that, and so I
think they would have probably gotten to somewhere in the
high thirties to low forties had he been able to play.
(01:29):
It was they won thirty four, right, thirty six? He
played forty six total games? Am I doing my math correctly?
Thirty forty four?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Ok, yeah, so he'd be missed thirty six games, yes, right,
So anyway, I think that would have been the case.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
So that's how Milwaukee has to rebuild.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
And you have to trade him to a player, to
a team that has either a player that you can
sell to your fans, which I don't think is possible,
but expiring contracts so that you have a salary cap
issue and.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
You have no draft picks.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
And that's the worst situation you can be in, because
either one is bad, but both are worse than bad.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And so the.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
CBS Sports put out this story about the teams that
might be interested in him and those that would have
no interest at all or could not pull it off.
And on the first category, it's that don't waste our time.
That would be Sacramento, New Orleans, Dallas, Portland, Washington, Charlotte,
and Toronto. And I agree, I don't see him going
to any of those teams. He's going to want to
go someplace where he thinks he can immediately have a
(02:32):
chance to be part of a championship team, and Dallas
would be a nice destination. I just don't know if
they have enough draft capital. But they don't have enough.
They would probably have to get rid of Gabbard and PJ. Washington,
and those are really young players that are on the
rise for the Mavericks. If you go to the next
level of teams, it's Chicago and Phoenix, the Clippers, and Denver.
(02:55):
I don't think Denver is going to give up it's
players money wise to match. Phoenixes also doesn't have any
draft picks, so that's kind of out. And Chicago, well,
it's a great market for you to be in, but
are you going to win there anytime soon, I don't
think so. The next year is Memphis and Philadelphia. Now,
I think Philadelphia could be the third best team in
(03:17):
the East as early as next year if all the
chips fall appropriately, and that means that they win the
draft lottery and they get Cooper Flag, they get a
healthy Paul George, they get a healthy Joel Embiid and
Tyreese Maxi's back and then if you were to add
you Honis to that group.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
And Jared McCain.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I remember that rookie, Jared McCain, who could have very
well been the Rookie of the Year if he had
not gotten injured.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
So Philadelphia is a I don't think Philadelphia is in
the dire straits as people think they are. But it
is predicated by what Embiid can do because he's on
the hook for five more years and a lot of
money for those five years. Yeah, and so nobody's taking
him if he can't play, and if he can't. If
he can play, then you should have him on your
(04:03):
team because he's a good player when he can play
and when he wants to play.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
So uh, I think that, uh.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
You look at a starting lineup of of mbid Joannis.
Let's say, uh, Cooper flag and Tyrese Maxi And to me,
that's a pretty good lineup right there.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Why would you put that in the universe? Why?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Why are you why are you putting the flag going
to going to them.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Because they have it, because they're the fourth or fifth the.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Most chance of getting the lottery. That's not even put
that into the universe. I'd rather him go to Charlotte
than Philadelphia, my goodness.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
The only problem.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Do you hate everything about Philadelphia? Yeah, the Flyers and
and just the Eagles, Yes, yes, I I We have
a listener that calls in all the time. He's a
he's a Philly guy, and he's a Phillies fan. So
whenever uh he sits and calls uh, and we appreciate him.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I'll sit there and jaw with them back and forth,
and it's all out of love and respect. It's like,
you know, Blanke, your Phillies. I can't stand Bryce Harper.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Well, I've got I've got a friend I play golf
with that's from Philadelphia, has a Philadelphia Phillies golf bag.
As a matter of fact, Yeah, so I don't. I'm
not an Eagles fan. I only like Bryce Harper because
I think he's I think what he does is good
for baseball. He's funny, and I was I was a
Sixer fan back in the day when Doctor J played there.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
But I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I don't hate the Sixers, and I'd much rather the
Sixers win than that got off of Boston Celtic team
up the road. That's the Philadelphia Boston rivalry. I am
one thousand percent on the Philadelphia side.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
The only time I ever half heartedly rooted for anything
Philadelphia related was when they got to the Super Bowl
the first time or a second time, obviously with Bill Shone,
and I wanted Bill to be able to experience a
Super Bowl win.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
If you're a Cowboys, saying you cannot like the Giants,
you can't like the Commanders, and you can't like the.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Eagles killed me a little bit.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I was like the hurts, Bill, But I love you.
I hope your Eagles beat whoever who did they wind
up beating that year in the Philly what was the
Philly Special?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
The uh the oh my goodness, I'm blanking on Patriots.
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yes, okay, I can not Nick Foh, you don't have
to hate the Phillies and the Flyers and the Sixers, Yes,
I do, because they have nothing to do with the Cowboys.
But the Eagles that's another story. And there's if they're
going to boot Michael Irvan for almost getting paralyzed, that's
a uh, that's an unforgivable sin in perpetuity.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
So anyway, but I think Philadelphia would be a great
spot to trade Jonnis. They'd have to give them. I
don't know what they have to give up, but we'll
look at that. Maybe if they'd have to give up.
I just don't think they have the players that they
would want to get in Milwaukee. Don't add up money
wise to get to fifty million dollars before you.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Have to get That's the issue is the three biggest
contracts that that the Sixers have is Joel Embiid and
I'm not I'm not I'm talking about this year. I'm
talking about what would be next year. Next year's contracts
or next year's NBA season is when this would take place.
You have Joel, like you mentioned, Joel Embiid, which is
still on the hook for four more years at fifty five.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
You have Paul George who's.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Still on the hook for three more years at fifty one,
and then Tyrese Maxi, who they just got the game
that extension to for four more years at thirty seven.
You're not trading any one of those three. You're not
trading Paul George because if I'm.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Watch it going, why why do what that? Yeah? What
a thirty four year old?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Thirty five young players who add up to fifty million
dollars in draft.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Picks, and they just don't have that unless they do
move off of Tyrese Maxi.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
But I'm not moving off of him, but he's good.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Kelly Oubre has a player option at only eight million.
Andre Drummond has a five million dollar playoff playoff or
player option. Everybody else is four million and under. They
don't have the players.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
All right.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
The one to the top four teams according to CBS
are the Spurs at four, of course, the Warriors at three,
the Rockets at two, and the Brooklyn Nets at one.
The Net the Nets have draft picks because they got
those from from New York in the in the mchal
Bridges trade. They've got like a bajillion like the Spurs.
(08:26):
But the Rockets. The only way that works with the
Rockets is if they get rid of Fred van Fleet.
That the biggest because he makes forty two million dollars
and now you can throw in a couple of spars
and get there. But and I don't think Fred van
Fleet has enough cash to be able to tell people
where he's going to play and who he's going to
play for. So but then I think you could find
a replacement for Fred van Fleet if you had Giannis
(08:48):
in Houston.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
It is next year, it would be a team option,
and it would be an expiring contract. It's forty four
point eight million, so that could be that could be
something they're looking at.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
You could exercise the option and trade him to Milwaukee
and get Giannis and have to throw in a player
in the and.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
The Bucks would want picks.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah, and I have to see what the what the
I think Houston's the best opportunity that we ran a
scenario today, and I mentioned earlier in the week you
would the best and easiest way to do it would
be Vassil and Caldon Johnson, which I don't want to do.
I want that core to stick together. There's another one
where you could do Vasill, Harrison, Barnes and so Han
(09:32):
and have to exercise the team option on so In.
But again, I think Jeremy Soyan is going to be
the if if you look at future rotations for the Spurs.
And this is me being the armchair quarterback that I'm
not our armchair coach. I have so kind of in
that nine ten eleven ranges my players off the bench. Uh,
And I got Fox starting, I got Vassell starting, I
(09:55):
got Cooper flag starting. If we get him, I got
whim By, I got Dairy queen or uh, the guy
from Duke in Mount Melo, melichiic Malwitch malawatch. So we
got him some combination of that. Bring back David rob
I don't want to bring I don't want to bring her.
(10:16):
I don't want to get rid of Harrison Barnes. He's
a great veteran to have on the team.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Shooter.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Yeah from the corner, like Sewan Elliott says, So it's
it's to me, you're if you think you're gonna win
immediately with that, Okay, But I wouldn't hate it, but
I would hate giving up the players that you'd have
to give up in order to do it.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
But just rest assured that he's.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Going going and I unfortunately he may end up in Houston,
and you're gonna have to play them three or four
times a year, with Giannis and with Shoon and with
them and Thompson that the Rockets would be in the
in the driver's seat pretty quickly if they got him.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
That's all right.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I mean we have the Alien. I'll take the Alien
over the freak any days. Well, the Freak's got a
little bit more years right now. We'll see, we'll see
where this ends up. All right, more coming up, it's
it's the Andy Everage Show.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
On the ticket
Lots to talk after last night's loss for the Bucks
that Jannis will be on the way out of Milwaukee
and headed to another team. The Bucks I think have
to start over. If you look at their roster, it's
not very good. And unless Joannis says, you know what,
I'll stick around through the rebuild. I don't ever want
to go anywhere else. This is my home, this store
I want to be. And then maybe at some point
(00:26):
you can move off the Lillard contract if you can
find a suitor for him after he shows he can
come back from surgery. But the problem with the Bucks
is is that they need draft picks.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
You don't.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You need to build your team very much like what
the Spurs have done the last three or four years
in Oklahoma City. They got Cason Wallace, they got Home Grind,
they got Shay.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
They built a really good team. And the Spurs, you.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Know, they started all this back with Keldon Johnson and
Vessel several years ago, and they've added more pieces to
the puzzle each and every year. Obviously, the biggest piece
was Wimby. I think they would have got close to
the play in game had Wimby not gotten the d
vein thrombosis and been able to play the last what
was it thirty games of the season something like that, thirty.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Four almost yeah, almost close to forty, because I think
he played forty two games, but that's not counting some
of like the he missed five, I think, yeah, something
like that. I think, yeah, I think it was thirty
five thirty eight games left when he bailed out for
the year to take care of that, and so I
think they would have probably gotten to somewhere in the
high thirties to low forties had he been able to play.
(01:29):
It was they won thirty four, right, thirty six? He
played forty six total games? Am I doing my math correctly?
Thirty forty four?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Ok, yeah, so he'd be missed thirty six games, yes, right,
So anyway, I think that would have been the case.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
So that's how Milwaukee has to rebuild.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
And you have to trade him to a player, to
a team that has either a player that you can
sell to your fans, which I don't think is possible,
but expiring contracts so that you have a salary cap
issue and.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
You have no draft picks.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
And that's the worst situation you can be in, because
either one is bad, but both are worse than bad.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And so the.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
CBS Sports put out this story about the teams that
might be interested in him and those that would have
no interest at all or could not pull it off.
And on the first category, it's that don't waste our time.
That would be Sacramento, New Orleans, Dallas, Portland, Washington, Charlotte,
and Toronto. And I agree, I don't see him going
to any of those teams. He's going to want to
go someplace where he thinks he can immediately have a
(02:32):
chance to be part of a championship team, and Dallas
would be a nice destination. I just don't know if
they have enough draft capital. But they don't have enough.
They would probably have to get rid of Gabbard and PJ. Washington,
and those are really young players that are on the
rise for the Mavericks. If you go to the next
level of teams, it's Chicago and Phoenix, the Clippers, and Denver.
(02:55):
I don't think Denver is going to give up it's
players money wise to match. Phoenixes also doesn't have any
draft picks, so that's kind of out. And Chicago, well,
it's a great market for you to be in, but
are you going to win there anytime soon, I don't
think so. The next year is Memphis and Philadelphia. Now,
I think Philadelphia could be the third best team in
(03:17):
the East as early as next year if all the
chips fall appropriately, and that means that they win the
draft lottery and they get Cooper Flag, they get a
healthy Paul George, they get a healthy Joel Embiid and
Tyreese Maxi's back and then if you were to add
you Honis to that group.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
And Jared McCain.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I remember that rookie, Jared McCain, who could have very
well been the Rookie of the Year if he had
not gotten injured.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
So Philadelphia is a I don't think Philadelphia is in
the dire straits as people think they are. But it
is predicated by what Embiid can do because he's on
the hook for five more years and a lot of
money for those five years. Yeah, and so nobody's taking
him if he can't play, and if he can't. If
he can play, then you should have him on your
(04:03):
team because he's a good player when he can play
and when he wants to play.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
So uh, I think that, uh.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
You look at a starting lineup of of mbid Joannis.
Let's say, uh, Cooper flag and Tyrese Maxi And to me,
that's a pretty good lineup right there.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Why would you put that in the universe? Why?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Why are you why are you putting the flag going
to going to them.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Because they have it, because they're the fourth or fifth the.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Most chance of getting the lottery. That's not even put
that into the universe. I'd rather him go to Charlotte
than Philadelphia, my goodness.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
The only problem.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Do you hate everything about Philadelphia? Yeah, the Flyers and
and just the Eagles, Yes, yes, I I We have
a listener that calls in all the time. He's a
he's a Philly guy, and he's a Phillies fan. So
whenever uh he sits and calls uh, and we appreciate him.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I'll sit there and jaw with them back and forth,
and it's all out of love and respect. It's like,
you know, Blanke, your Phillies. I can't stand Bryce Harper.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Well, I've got I've got a friend I play golf
with that's from Philadelphia, has a Philadelphia Phillies golf bag.
As a matter of fact, Yeah, so I don't. I'm
not an Eagles fan. I only like Bryce Harper because
I think he's I think what he does is good
for baseball. He's funny, and I was I was a
Sixer fan back in the day when Doctor J played there.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
But I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I don't hate the Sixers, and I'd much rather the
Sixers win than that got off of Boston Celtic team
up the road. That's the Philadelphia Boston rivalry. I am
one thousand percent on the Philadelphia side.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
The only time I ever half heartedly rooted for anything
Philadelphia related was when they got to the Super Bowl
the first time or a second time, obviously with Bill Shone,
and I wanted Bill to be able to experience a
Super Bowl win.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
If you're a Cowboys, saying you cannot like the Giants,
you can't like the Commanders, and you can't like the.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Eagles killed me a little bit.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I was like the hurts, Bill, But I love you.
I hope your Eagles beat whoever who did they wind
up beating that year in the Philly what was the
Philly Special?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
The uh the oh my goodness, I'm blanking on Patriots.
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yes, okay, I can not Nick Foh, you don't have
to hate the Phillies and the Flyers and the Sixers, Yes,
I do, because they have nothing to do with the Cowboys.
But the Eagles that's another story. And there's if they're
going to boot Michael Irvan for almost getting paralyzed, that's
a uh, that's an unforgivable sin in perpetuity.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
So anyway, but I think Philadelphia would be a great
spot to trade Jonnis. They'd have to give them. I
don't know what they have to give up, but we'll
look at that. Maybe if they'd have to give up.
I just don't think they have the players that they
would want to get in Milwaukee. Don't add up money
wise to get to fifty million dollars before you.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Have to get That's the issue is the three biggest
contracts that that the Sixers have is Joel Embiid and
I'm not I'm not I'm talking about this year. I'm
talking about what would be next year. Next year's contracts
or next year's NBA season is when this would take place.
You have Joel, like you mentioned, Joel Embiid, which is
still on the hook for four more years at fifty five.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
You have Paul George who's.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Still on the hook for three more years at fifty one,
and then Tyrese Maxi, who they just got the game
that extension to for four more years at thirty seven.
You're not trading any one of those three. You're not
trading Paul George because if I'm.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Watch it going, why why do what that? Yeah? What
a thirty four year old?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Thirty five young players who add up to fifty million
dollars in draft.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Picks, and they just don't have that unless they do
move off of Tyrese Maxi.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
But I'm not moving off of him, but he's good.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Kelly Oubre has a player option at only eight million.
Andre Drummond has a five million dollar playoff playoff or
player option. Everybody else is four million and under. They
don't have the players.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
All right.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
The one to the top four teams according to CBS
are the Spurs at four, of course, the Warriors at three,
the Rockets at two, and the Brooklyn Nets at one.
The Net the Nets have draft picks because they got
those from from New York in the in the mchal
Bridges trade. They've got like a bajillion like the Spurs.
(08:26):
But the Rockets. The only way that works with the
Rockets is if they get rid of Fred van Fleet.
That the biggest because he makes forty two million dollars
and now you can throw in a couple of spars
and get there. But and I don't think Fred van
Fleet has enough cash to be able to tell people
where he's going to play and who he's going to
play for. So but then I think you could find
a replacement for Fred van Fleet if you had Giannis
(08:48):
in Houston.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
It is next year, it would be a team option,
and it would be an expiring contract. It's forty four
point eight million, so that could be that could be
something they're looking at.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
You could exercise the option and trade him to Milwaukee
and get Giannis and have to throw in a player
in the and.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
The Bucks would want picks.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah, and I have to see what the what the
I think Houston's the best opportunity that we ran a
scenario today, and I mentioned earlier in the week you
would the best and easiest way to do it would
be Vassil and Caldon Johnson, which I don't want to do.
I want that core to stick together. There's another one
where you could do Vasill, Harrison, Barnes and so Han
(09:32):
and have to exercise the team option on so In.
But again, I think Jeremy Soyan is going to be
the if if you look at future rotations for the Spurs.
And this is me being the armchair quarterback that I'm
not our armchair coach. I have so kind of in
that nine ten eleven ranges my players off the bench. Uh,
And I got Fox starting, I got Vassell starting, I
(09:55):
got Cooper flag starting. If we get him, I got
whim By, I got Dairy queen or uh, the guy
from Duke in Mount Melo, melichiic Malwitch malawatch. So we
got him some combination of that. Bring back David rob
I don't want to bring I don't want to bring her.
(10:16):
I don't want to get rid of Harrison Barnes. He's
a great veteran to have on the team.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Shooter.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Yeah from the corner, like Sewan Elliott says, So it's
it's to me, you're if you think you're gonna win
immediately with that, Okay, But I wouldn't hate it, but
I would hate giving up the players that you'd have
to give up in order to do it.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
But just rest assured that he's.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Going going and I unfortunately he may end up in Houston,
and you're gonna have to play them three or four
times a year, with Giannis and with Shoon and with
them and Thompson that the Rockets would be in the
in the driver's seat pretty quickly if they got him.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
That's all right.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I mean we have the Alien. I'll take the Alien
over the freak any days. Well, the Freak's got a
little bit more years right now. We'll see, we'll see
where this ends up. All right, more coming up, it's
it's the Andy Everage Show.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
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