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Speaker 1 (00:00):
V ninety three morning show. I'm Ally Max and I'm Mike.
So you caught some of the Ryder Cup this weekend.
If you didn't see it live, you have probably seen
a couple of videos online of all the pandemonium and
chaos that occurred at the tournament. This is golf, by
the way, I just what's going on with the fans?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
See, I didn't I don't fully like I play golf.
I like golf.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I don't know all the tours and everything by heart.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Like I couldn't tell you I know some of the players,
Like I'm a little like like I'm into it, I
just don't know it like I know football.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, So I watched this and thought it was like
the what's the event where they're like cheer at the hole.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
And it's like a party in Arizona. Yeah, yeah, what's
that one?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
The waste management?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
That's what I thought this was, Yeah, tournament.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, I thought this was just people goofing around when
I first watched it, Like I thought they were just
like messing with them like you might do with like
a baseball player. But I thought that was like encouraged
on this, whether it was a hole or just this
event or whatever, and then.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Golf as a whole is kind of moving in a
more lively and fun direction.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Isn't it supposed to be quiet? You're supposed to be
quiet during.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Groove, right, right? But yeah, this was the Ryder Cup.
This is like when all of the players kind of
play for their own country.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Oh okay, and.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
They it obviously like, you know, you have one country
versus the other country, the USA. But yeah, it just
it got to a point with the heckling specifically, I'm
talking about Rory McElroy. Yeah, yeah, and like his involvement
with some of the fans and like the yelling at
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him and the heckling him and just the entire interaction.
And I'm not saying what he did was write either,
because there were some some moments where I didn't think
his actions were very cool back m hm, But you
could definitely tell that he was angry. You could tell
that the fans were super angry, and it just it
got to kind of a point where I was like,
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this is wild. This is wild that we have reached
this point, not just like in golf, but just in
general events and spectator stuff in general.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, none of it, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I feel like with football, it's always been pretty intense, right,
people yelling, but you can't really can't really like hear
it out of everybody yelling, right, it has gotten more intense, Yeah,
or we're booing, you know, families of like the old
quarterback that shows up, Remember when the staffords came back, Yes,
and that first interaction. Like, there's always a couple people
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that take it too far, and I think that's really
what it is. What happens is, in my opinion, is
as a whole, we kind of all know the line
of like where how far you should go with things
when it comes to sports, But there's always like handful
of people that take it, take it way too serious.
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And that's the people that are fighting at games, but.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Take it too far, right. Yeah, I'm just I'm curious
if you watched any of this, or if you have
seen any of the videos from the Ryder Cup on
social media and your take on this, because I was
watching this stuff and with my jaw on the floor,
you know, just like on a basic human decency level
of being somebody who like paid for a ticket to
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go to a place. We've all done that, right. You
just feel like some of this stuff should already be installed,
especially like as an adult.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, could you imagine should know how to act? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Could you imagine too if you bought that ticket and
you weren't doing that and you're standing there, like would
the rest of your country.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Like what are you guys doing?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I'm Ali Mac, and I'm we're talking about heckling at
sporting events.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, it's gotten crazier so much, even in like the
professional sports world. But you got to think about it.
At least I've noticed it before. It starts like young,
it starts with like at kids events.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
You make a good point with that, and I like
it can be fun, yes, and I will say, like
some people do have some pretty creative heckles, but I
think I feel like there's kind of a line that
like you just you don't cross.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I think so, right, especially.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
With kids, because you know it all ages sports, like
they start when they're really little, and then like I
feel like you get to the more competitive ages through
like middle school and high school, and that's when it
can start to get a little bit dicey. I mean,
certainly in professional sports, like these are quote unquote adults
that are playing these games, So it's a little bit different. Yeah,
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but I'm just curious, like where do we land on heckling,
Like is it part of the fun or does it
cross the line.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I genuinely don't know, because part of me is like, well,
I go to Lions games all the time and I'm shouting.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Some passionate fans in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, but like I wouldn't do it. I I wouldn't
do it at a golf game. I wouldn't do it
at kids thing.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Ever.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I remember I played football and baseball growing up, and
there was always one or two on both sides of
the field, parents that were just so invested in their
kids doing well, like they were going to play professionally
in like sixth grade, and we're like, hey, this isn't
that serious. But there was always that parent, whether it
was baseball or football, that was heckling.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Or I would get up to the play.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I remember getting up to the play or pitching, yeah,
because I pitched, and there were parents that were like,
he can't throw or he can't hit or blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
We gotta like everybody move in.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Everybody move in, because I went, you know what I mean,
And so like it starts at every age and it
just gets I feel like it's gotten more intense over
the years.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
The ninety three Who's this and where are you from?
Speaker 5 (05:49):
My name is Brad Wells from Brand and Rap. But
they were just talking about on sports like conduct for
games and stuff. And I don't know if I've seen
recently that young kids down in Kalamba Zoo that was
about three hundred pounds that purposely jumped on the other
one and injured the kid's final card. No, yeah, so
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that just happened recently down in Klamazoo as they suspended
the big kid he was about three hundred and fifty
pounds only for a couple of months.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Were there was there like hackling going into it or
was it just like the kid decided the coach.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Is encouraging the kids to try to injure the other
kids down there?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
WHOA, Yeah, there's some It gets intense, and especially because
I grew up in a football town. I grew up
in Belding very like right, it was very football focused.
And I'm not saying any of the coaches there did
anything like that, but we had coaches of teams we
played that would say intense things and you were just
like it's part of the culture.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
That's crazy. I did not hear about that.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Yeah, the kids had tackled the kid and then he
stood up, and he was about three hundred fIF the
bounds just purposely jumped up in the air and come
down on the other kid and injured the spinal cord.
The kid is now in Ohielcare.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Oh my gosh, that's insane. O man, thank you for
the call this morning. Appreciate the info. We're talking about
heckling in sports today. I don't know if you saw
any of the coverage of the Ryder Cup this weekend,
or maybe you saw some videos online, but it was
extra spicy this year.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I thought I didn't know if it's always like that
or if this was out of the ordinary. But when
Macelroy kind of went off on everybody, that's when I realized,
I don't think.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
This is normal. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
And then there was something about somebody's wife got a
beer thrown on this.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
His wife was it.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
But there were differing reports of that, like some people said,
somebody bumped into him and it looks like it was
an accident, and other people said, no, it looked pretty intentional.
I haven't seen the video, so I don't know that
to be true or not, but I think, you know,
the that's kind of where it crosses the line, like yeah,
going after family members and the stands and stuff, especially
when they're not instigating it, or.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I think in any sort of competitive anything anything, if
you go after somebody's family or or the personal anything
outside of what the sport is, I think that's too much.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Surely we're not seeing this level of hackling in like
kids sports, right like that week, right we are?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I think so, yeah, way, I think it's more passive aggressive,
So it's like, come on, Jimmy, he can't stop you.
You know what I mean, come on, he can't. Like
That's what it was when I played. I played baseball
from like T ball all the way to high school.
Same with football, well football I played a little bit later,
but anyways, it was always like one or two parents
on the opposing team, and maybe there was someone on
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our team too, I don't remember, but that would be
like if I was up to pitch or if I
was up to bat, like he would tell everybody.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Move in, move in, he ain't gonna hit it.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Like it was always what yeah, oh yeah, yeah, it
was wild. I know I know now thinking about it,
like if if my kids were to play a sport
like I don't know. I don't know how how another
pair handles that.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I don't know if Ben played college baseball, but we
streamed the morning show live on TikTok on air Mike
and Ali Mack on air. This is from my TikTok live.
Ben said, college baseball, in the outfield, the fans will
look up the player's parents' names and roast the kid's parents.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
That's too much.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
That's too much because they're all they're trying to do
is get in their head so that they can't do
the thing that they normally do.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
That's all they're trying to do.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And that's got nothing to do with the with the
kid and like the game like that, I feel like, yeah,
that one crosses the line.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I was watching this goes along with it.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I was watching the ESPN thing one time and it
was it was on Peyton Manning and they said he
used to look up the defensive back, the cornerbacks of
the opposing team's wife's names.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
So I don't know how you find that. I don't
know where you find that.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
But he would call audibles and he would change the
player or whatever, and he would name those those plays
their names, so it'd be like Stacy Jones, Stacy Jones,
and that would be an all to a different play
of like.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
The opposite D line, the line.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Or the cornerbacks, so that they would go, wait, did
he say my wife's name? So that it would throw
them off, and just that fraction, because that's all they're
looking for, is that fraction of a step to get full.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I know Peyton Manning, Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Oh yeah, I mean he won Super Bowls.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Like white bread, Peyton Manning. They all do it, mister
polite Peyton Manning.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
They all do it. If they if we miked up
NFL players. The NFL players themselves are way worse than
the fans. But I think that's why it's allowed, is
because they're all doing it. When it comes to kids stuff, though,
I think that's wild.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Good morning, d Natty three? Who's this and where are
you from?
Speaker 4 (10:39):
My name is Samantha and I'm hi Samantha. My son
used to wrestle for the high school team and he
would whisper sweet nothings and the opponent's.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Here, oh honey roasted. I love that.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Did it work? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
What were some of his favorites? Do you know any.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
I don't are you telling their hair smecked your hair?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Not see? See that's that's the stuff that's good. I
feel like that's the stuff that.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Because it's nice, but it kind of gets in their
handle A love it too, Like what did he just
say to me while he's this close to my ears?
Speaker 6 (11:16):
You like?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Well, because they're real intimate on the mat, you know,
you're oh yeah, just sweet nothings in the air.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Like, uh, you raised a good one. That's gotta be.
It's hilarious. That's the kind of heckling that I can
get behind.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, as long as we have that line of like
this is what it is and not a personal attacks
or or throwing things at people, I think I think
that's where we cross lines.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Being any free. Good morning, Chris. You got a crazy
hackling story.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
I do, and I feel really bad about twenty years later.
So it was it was two thousand and six and
the Troit Tigers are doing really well for the first
time in a very long time, and Todd Jones started
blowing saves left and right, and I was really mad.
So I made a website trade Todd Jones dot com
and this thing, this thing went viral in the sports world, right,
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So I put a thing on the website that Todd
Jones challenge if you get so many says in a
row whatever. I forget it was. So basically, we get
to the end of the season, in the playoffs and
I get this email from somebody saying they're representing Todd
Jones and they give me a phone number to call.
So I called the number and it's really the Trade
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Tiger's locker room and it's his Trade Tiger's locker room manager.
And he's like, well, I'll have Todd give you a call,
so you'll give him my number. And I get a
call back and it's really Todd Jones and he is
not happy, and he's like, dude, I saved all those
saves in a row without you know, blowing any of them.
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When would you take your site down now? And I
was just so flabbergacid that I was talking to Todd Jones. Finally,
I'm like, I really didn't know what to say, so
I said, oh, well, okay, bye, and I think my
website might have helped the Tigers get the posts. He's
back here, but a few years get this of years later,
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I'm reading this article on Tod Jones and as they
mentioned my website, and it comes to find out that
Todd Jones is a very like he's a really sensitive guy.
Oh and I felt so bad because out of all
the people in the entire world and make a website
about it's this guy. So I the whole of this
story is realize these sports people, even if they make
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a whole bunch of money, these are like real people
and they're not just kind of like is not just
part It is part of the support, but it's not
part of the sport. Maybe be a little bit more
sensitive than you might consider.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Other ways.
Speaker 6 (13:57):
You may get a call from them and be very managed.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
What are the chances of that? That's wild? Chris, thanks
for the call today. I appreciate it. Great story.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Thank you,