October 20, 2023 • 29 mins
We welcome on a BIG guest to the SHOW ahead of AEW taking over the Yum Center on Nov 1st as we sit down with a legend in the industry, Paul Wight. We talk old memories in Louisville, his transition to AEW, and a whole lot more. Enjoy!
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Hey, this Almighty Bobby Lashly andyou're listening to the baby Face Podcast.
Hey, this is Brittle and you'relistening to the Bros. This is the
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Shams And you are listening to theOne the Only baby fake Fella. What's
going on? Everybody? Hey,keep listening to iHeartRadio. This is the
baby Faces Podcast. You hear thatmusic and that means you're about to get
in the ring with Billy and Itaking a little bit of a hiatus.
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You know, we always kind ofwarn you around this time of year,
football seasons coming up. Uh youalso, we have also have jobs to
kind of keep us held back alittle bit too. But when we have,
when we have some noteworthy things that'sgoing on, that's when we decide
to dive back in and get intoyour ear waves a little bit. As
you know, I am Austin.I'm here with our co host, Billy
the main man. He is alsothe offensive court not offensive coordinator of the
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quarterbacks here the passing game coordinator ofMore High School. They got a pretty
big game tonight and they've actually hada pretty good season. That's why we
haven't been in touch with Billy allthat much is he's locked in and we
want to keep him locked in forthis playoff run. Billy, how you
doing today, man, I'm doingwell. And you know, I'm super
excited about the podcast today because AllElite Wrestling is making its debut right here
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in the Ville on November first,taking over the Young Center. And uh,
not to say this lightly, butyou know we don't throw this this
word around here loosely on the podcast, but we have a legend joining us
today Austin. Yes, an absolutelegend. I mean, a big guest
on the show. I would havehim say our biggest guest literally ever on
the big guest on the show.His name is Paul White. Yeah,
and he is right here sitting nextto me. And I'll tell you what,
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it's pretty intimidating. I'm not gonnathought you guys were going to say
Hornswoggle. Hornswoggle spent some time herein Louisville too. But you know he's
he's he's probably second on the listright next to it. I love Dylan,
Dylan's Dylan's a sweetheart. I hada lot of fun with Dylan.
Did you ever see his boxing match. He did what I didn't see his
box. I still remember in Irelandwhen we got stuck in Ireland due to
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the volcano in Iceland, travel wasshut down and there was a bar in
the hotel and Dylan used to backin the day before he became a responsible
father and everything now, he usedto like to get drunk and run around
naked in the bar. There's nothingworse since seeing a giant and the animal
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Dave Bautista chasing a little person tryingto put their clothes back on him.
No, dude, you gotta putyour clothes on. We're in Ireland.
They'll take you to jail for this. Okay, this is not America.
Like you know, they're serious aboutbreaking the law over here, you know.
So you're hearing it right now.Paul White and Dave Batista's basically biggest
opponent is naked Hornswoggling. Naked Youheard, Naked Hornswoggle is a giant killer
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without a doubt, absolutely, dude, Well you are freaking the giant.
Dude. You're formerly known as aGiant from the Monday Night Wars back in
w CW and by all means,dude, you a wrestling legend. We've
been watching wrestling for a long time, so it's really cool to be here
in the same graces as you asI was downtown Louisville, as confusing as
it is, there's one way streetseverywhere. You mentioned going by the Louisville
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Gardens and you said you'd wrestle therebefore. Did any nostalgia hit you when
you went over there. Being herein Louisville and seeing that garden sign or
wrestling history. My first entring interactionwas it the Louisville Gardens Wow show for
OVW, and there was a youngman who was in OVW at the time
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that I met for the first timeby the name of John Cenae, who
had to run out during one ofthe match or something and take a few
bumps. So it was interesting seewhere. Obviously his career is gone,
but when I saw the Gardens,that's what I remember from that show.
I come in. I'd already gottenout of OVW and was back working full
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time with WW at the time,and Danny had a show and asked me
if if he could, you know, if you could pay me to come
do the show, and I waslike, no, Danny, not everything
that you did for me, noteverything to OVW do absolutely not. I
wouldn't take money for him. Icame and did the show for nothing,
and it was funny as John was. He had this eager, bright yeah
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man, whatever I can do,like, he had that great attitude.
And we've been friends for for yearsand guy knows that guy is transcend the
industry and what he's done with it. And I'm very happy that I got
to meet him and know him becauseI got to work with him a lot.
And yeah, probably owe a coupleof homes to him. So,
I mean, you talk about ayoung John Cena. Now you find yourself,
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you know, you've seen and doneit all in wrestling. You find
yourself on the AW roster that hasa lot of you know, young studs.
Is there any that you would likeshout out that you know have a
bright future? And oh, wehave a lot of young talent, but
two talents that I really like.And you know, there's a lot of
personal vested interests because I've known themsince they were small kids. That's the
thing too. I'm at the stagenow where I have guys that I wrestled
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that now I'm working with their kidsand like Tom Brady in the NFL.
Tom, Sorry, Well, youknow you've got a local ov W star
in Cal Hero. Yes, bigshout out to Cal who's a very young
young kid with a good attitude andyou know he's he's on his way.
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Austin and Colton Gun, Yes,I mean I've known those kids. I've
been friends with Billy since day oneand where I started working WW. And
I've seen Austin Colton grow up andit's funny how their personalities are so different.
Colton is this very serious, deepthinker and Austin is his dad wide
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open on like energy drinks, LikeAustin has so much energy, and they're
so young and they're so good atwhat they're doing. Their former AEW tag
team champions. There's going to bemore championships down the line for those guys.
They've got everything from having a greatdad like Billy that does a lot
of the coaching and teaching who isone of the best teachers. That's one
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thing I've noticed since I've gotten toAEW. We have two guys that are
just different from any teacher I've everhad and I've worked with. You know,
Terry Taylor had a lot to dowith me. Paul Devesk had a
lot to do with me my careerand a power plant. And they're different
styles of trainers and coaches over theyear, and I've seen a lot of
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guys training coach and they do itthey're with Billy Gunn has an amazing way
of translating body mechanics and what you'redoing and what you're thinking, like he
just looks at it and knows what'sgoing on in your head. Like Billy
is phenomenal. And then Jay Lethalthere's also an incredibly kind coach. He
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runs a school in Tampa and uh, just when I watched Lethal, because
I live in Tampa, so I'llgo work out in Jay's ring, and
just the way Jay talks to hisstudents and he's just so it's such a
calm learning environment compared to you know, when I came through the business,
there wasn't a lot of There wasn'ta lot of handholding, are stupid or
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something? You know that kind ofthing. So it's environment. It's a
more conducive environment, I would definitelysay. And then you know, also
last night getting to talk with Aland see what else knows done for his
group and absolutely out of this.It's just nice to see and be a
part of. And I get itnow at my tenure age and legendary status
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or whatever crap you want to callit, to see guys that are that
are passing that that down to theyounger generation. And that's a good thing
about ae W Excuse me, it'snot a cookie cutter promotion. I mean,
when you're a big operating machine,this giant machines, one hundred and
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seventy countries and one point seven followersin your social media platforms worldwide, it's
run like a very efficient machine.Stand here to hard camera, face hard
camera. This is your ring entrance. You do the same thing every time.
It's laid out in a way thatis very structural for the younger talent,
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which works. And the one thingthat I like different about AEW is
it's a lot more authentic from thetalent because the talent has so much more
input on the decisions they make comingto the ring, the decisions they make
in the ring, decisions in theircharacter. So that gets more back to
the roots of what pro wrestling isof it's up to the talent to make
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those choices and learn from those mistakesand there's a it's a more of a
forgiving environment in ae W two tolearn to make that connection with the audience.
And I think it's it's more conduciveto getting back to the roots of
being authentic and being in an individualthat presents uh your character, whereas you
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know in other places you don't havethat opportunity. Yeah, that opportunity is
given to you. You're given aname, intellectual property is then filed.
That company owns the intellectual property.This is how your character is being presented.
This is the way you fit asa gear in the cog of our
machine. Which if you can adjustto that and do that, you'll you'll
do well and you'll make money andyou'll be uh successful. But I think
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for younger talent, especially early intheir career, you gotta trip, you
gotta stumble, you gotta find yourselfalong the way. And even I did
that. Like I started in WCW. My first match was Hulk Hogan.
I thought, Hogan, I mean, that sounds great, fantastic, but
at the same time, it's meanta huge hurdle. You know, you're
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not going to have a lot ofexperience, so a lot of the things
being told to you really don't understandwhat you're doing. You're just doing it,
so you haven't had a chance tofind out who you are as a
talent. Sure, and that wasone of the things about coming here to
Louisville that helped me, is Igot a chance to really figure out why
I'm in this business and what thisbusiness means to others around me. Because
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I mean, if somebody comes toyou and says, hey, you're twenty
one years old, you're going towork with Hulk Hogan, You're going to
have a big contract, it's notthat your head. It's just you don't
know any different. You don't knowyou know, you know, you're you
don't know that. Oh I've gotto work a job at home depot and
then I'm tired from working the hoursto day, but I still have to
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go train. Yeah, you knowwhen I trained in the power plant in
WCW, that was my job.I had a contract to go train.
I knew that my first match wasgoing to be Hulkogan. Yeah. I
also knew that if that match wasbad, my contract probably wouldn't last more
than a year. Sure, Soit could have been a one and done,
or it could have been you know, a chance to make something.
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But even then, there wasn't anopportunity to to really fail. You had.
You were thrown in the fire.You had to find your way,
and mentally it was it was draining. Mentally, it was exhausting because you're
you're not winning in any way inthat stage and this is not a wine
poor me. I'm grateful for myentire contract, but at the same time,
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there was a lot of well,I'm working with guys that are so
seasoned to make it so easy,and oh, just listen to me,
kid, We'll be fine out thereand you're doing stuff, but you're you're
not understanding why you're doing it.And then you you know, I got
the opportunity because you know, uh, my boss that I worked for was
a was a real tough dude,you know, Evince. I thought it
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would be really good for me tofigure out what the other side of life
is about. Sure, I meanhe put his own kid on the ring
truck. Yeah, you know whatI mean. Shane worked on the ring
truck and that was my thing.The first time I put a ring together
was an OVW wow. Like youknow, like I remember Jim Cornett coming
to me I had a big Dodgedually Semi al co Is on a real
expensive truck. You know. Imean, I've already been in the business
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fore years making money and Cornett wantedme to pull the ring behind my truck.
If I do, my truck's worthmore than your ring. No,
you know what I mean. Butagain, when you do that, you
start setting up a ring and yourealize the sacrifices and things that people go
through, and then you understand what'sat the core of professional wrestling and the
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heart that goes into it and whyyou're doing it and making that relationship with
the audience. Sure, absolutely,and it seems like the company aw that
you're at now and you've been apart of multiple and what you just said,
it gives you a little bit moreand wrestler is a little bit more
of an opportunity, like you said, kind of be themselves and rather than
just kind of go out there andmake sure to look at this camera,
make sure to look at this camerjust make sure to get our character that
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we gave you over which is completelyfine and understandable from the business aspect or
if you're fans of that, butyou know, the pure wrestling side works
sometimes, but you might go throughone hundred and fifty two hundred talent to
get one, sure, yeah,you know what I mean. Whereas and
along that way you might have outof some of those talents, you might
have had talents that could have thrivedwith a little bit more individuality, a
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little bit more freedom of expression,a little bit more time to season,
right, you know what I mean. It's just and I think that's the
thing that AAW really sets up.Well, there's there's a couple of good
smaller promotions that or training schools thatAAW works with with Jay Lethal School and
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Rhodes Academy in Atlanta and OVW like, there's a lot of talents that come
in from that are getting opportunities thatthey wouldn't get in and the other place,
because the other place actually prefers totake athletes that don't know anything about
wrestling and train them their way.Yeah, to mold that and mold them
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that way. So then and thenthat's the only system they know. And
one thing I've learned and it reinforcesit was with a success that AW had
at Wembley Swing Out, you know, eighty thousand tickets and ninety percent of
them were sold just on brand alone, without an advertised car, just on
the brand. Yeah, So thatshows that there are a different way to
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do things, and it really getsback to the core of what's important for
our industry is to be something uniqueand be something different and not be the
same as someone else or try tocompete with the same look. That's not
what we're doing. We're offering aawa very professional, viable product that's pro
wrestling oriented, that has great talent. Yeah, absolutely, and you know,
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and that's I mean, you know, a lot of fans that I
talked to you like that that rigidnesstoday W has and it does kind of
I mean, if you may kindof go back to how w c W
kind of looked back and it wasjust just a different brand, a different
logo to look at and just likea different presentation. It's a different a
different feel, and you're gonna haveloyal fans on either side. But you
know, that's you know, andthat's part of it. But if you
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only have one horse in town,sure, you know, you know,
you don't know, like I mean, if you have steak every day your
entire life, or or and thenyou try something different. You might like
it, you know, it mightbe something better for you. Absolutely,
you know, so you know that'swhatever analogy I was going for there,
that completely missed the mark. Imean, you think you're like me,
or you think food. Yeah,anytime you can put steak into a reference,
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let's let's sake, you know,good hamburger, good hot dog.
Absolutely. I keep thinking about kfc'mCenter November first, or a w show.
How are they going to have chickenaround there for us? Or is
it just like a regular Like ifyou go to dunkin Donuts arena there's not
one donut in the place. That'sgreat, that's kind of ridiculous. What
are they doing up there? Idon't know. It makes me think,
do you do you remember any specificplaces here in Louisville that you guys used
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to tear down food wise after ashow? Like places? Trying to remember
it was on Hurstbourne Avenue, Ithink way out there, Max and Erma's
Max and MS Honey. Okay,they had the honey croissants. I think
thats okay. I think. SoI feel like now I know, I
feel like I've heard that before,but I feel like believe I've been hitting
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the head with a lot of chairs, so you know. And I remember
my first uh steak and shake experiencewas in Oh, yes, I think
there's only like one or left Phillyfive way or something like that. Yes,
yes, yeah, so and SkylineYeah yes, Skyline. Yeah,
that's Billy's favorite. He's from upNorth Kentucky. It's how bad my brain
works. Sometimes. You know,a good three way we'll get you right,
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I'll tell you the way, I'lldo what, I'll do whatever,
But the three ways the class likethe three I'll do a four way with
onion. Five ways onion and bI hate on and I can't do onions.
Well, there you go. Notan onion guy, I'm not an
I don't like it. I tasteone onion. But here's a kicker,
Paul, I love onion rings wellbecause it's fried. Who doesn't exactly exactly
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Listen if I get one piece ofonion on anything that I eat and immediately
ruins a flavor for me, Wow, feel bad for you. Like nothing
makes me hungry than smelling onions.Yes, onions cooking in butter and garlic,
like you prepping for something. I'mlike, oh, that's a good
smell. I'm not going anywhere allabsolutely, I'm gonna sit here next to
the dog and drool. So we'retalking about, you know, all these
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promotions having having success in today's wrestlingworld. I mean, we've talked about
OVW a couple of times, obviouslybeing local here in Louisville, and they
just had the Big Wrestlers documentary hitNetflix. You know, there's a lot
of little like you were mentioned,kind of breeding grounds like that and having
all these promotions that are having successlike the aw's and w we s and
even the Impact Wrestlings and all that. I mean, that's huge for wrestlers,
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right, have all that much moreopportunity out there. It is,
and that's a good way of lookingat it too for the talent, because
the talent may go somewhere and notsee success in one company, and that
gives them a chance because there's anold say in resting too, sometimes you
got to go away to come back. So sometimes you have to try,
fail, regroup, try something else. But you have a little bit more
of a chance to do that ata professional level when you have viable companies
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to go work for to make aliving, so you try something. You
know in ww that doesn't work,you can reboot yourself. You know,
they wouldn't let me do this,but I'd like to try this, and
then it becomes a natural fit andthen you become a big star, and
you know, you create a relationshipwith the audience. And that's the main
thing that I think is important foryounger wrestlers to understand, is you have
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to come across with something that youcan feel that's authentic, because the audience
doesn't really know the ins and outsand behind the scenes and politics and business
and you know, ratings per minuted. We pretend, but I mean there's
a lot of minutia that goes intoprofessional wrestling that is business oriented. But
at the core of it, it'smaking the fans. Our job and everybody
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knows this predetermined outcome and blah blahblah blah blah and all that stuff.
For the technical guys, yeah huh. But our job, if we do
it right, is we can pullyou out of it and suspend belief for
that time. Sure we all knowthat you know, Iron Man isn't real,
but when you watch it, whenyou watch Infinity Wars, stop,
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you are breaking news right now.Yeah, you know, but the suspend
the belief. You're wrapped up inInfinity Wars, You're wrapped up in the
characters, you're wrapped up in BlackWidow, you're wrapped up in Captain Marvel
and and all that stuff. Sowhen we do our job right, and
I can't tell you how many timeshas come up to me and people try
to preface it, they say,oh, I know, I know it's
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not this, I know it's notthis, but that one time, Yeah,
but that one time, And inmy mind I'm like, yeah,
that one time we got you.Yep, we did our job because in
it's all people working together to tellthe story. It's all that we rely
on. The production crew, thecamera crew, the lighting, the television
editing people. All those people havea big play backstage that are unsung heroes,
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guys and the guys and gals inthe truck. The instant replay people
that you know, you see agreat move and bam, instantly that replays
there. Well, that doesn't justhappen magically. There's somebody back then the
team who reads and knows the business, that understands that's going to be a
great replay. Let me cut thatqueue that that's ready to go the announcers
who tell your story Tony Shavani,ex Caliber, Jim Ross, taz Me
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once in a while. You know, we're trying to do our job and
help further along that story for theviewers at home. And then the audience
is the other member of the show, because you have to feel that when
you're between the ropes, you haveto feel that audience and pull them in
with you. You know, whetherit's you need to be more aggressive,
or you need to be less aggressive, or it's a time to have laughs
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or some time to be serious.That's the thing that when our fans come
to our shows, that's the partthat we're pulling them into and let loose
because you're not there just to siton your butt and watch a show.
It's not a play, you know. I mean, this is something where
we want you to be a partof it. We want you to be
engaged, and we want to createa moment for you. And that's the
thing about coming to a live event. It's a moment. No I understand.
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Yes, there's there's so many thingsto entertain you when you can sit
on the couch and watch it onthe team, but when can you take
your friends or your family and goto an event that you create a memory.
Even if you never go again,you will never forget that experience the
rest of your life. That's oneof those things. Or that and it
will be that how about the onetime so and so did this? So
that one time? You know,And that's the beautiful part about our business.
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The core of it is making thatrelationship with our fans to give them
memories that one time, right,that's all that one time, one time
and one time little giants. Youall ever seen the movie, Yes,
yes, one time, one time, on time, but you just get
that one time, right. RandySavage used to have a saying like that.
Yeah, he would say, Imight throw ninety nine pieces of crap
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against the wall, but one mightstep. I love that. It's like,
okay, just let me know wherethat wall is because I don't want
to go in that room. Right. But you know that was and that
was that was Randy's attitude too.Randy was a get knocked down, get
back up, keep punching. Yeah, you know, if I want to
dig a little bit deeper kind ofbit, if you can try to remember
back to the old old Monday nightwar days, billies, had just uh
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mentioned wrestlers. It's kind of takingNetflix by storm a little bit, kind
of chronicles everyday life and going intowhat it's like for a wrestling business to
kind of survive right now. Andof course, ay you know it's translated
well with like it's turned into likereality and they've garnered some stars from that.
If you can think back to yourold WCW locker room, if they
had something like that where a camerawas on someone, who do you think
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would be the star? I canthink of one talent that I know off
my off the top of my head. He's no longer with us, but
was the most incredible, dynamic personality, funny, just great dude was Brian
Adams, remember him as Crusha andI used to play golf a lot with
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Brian, and Brian was always runningsome kind of scam on strokes per hole
and it always ended up at theend of the game where he got three
or four bucks off of you,you know. But he was just like
he would do things like unclip yourgolf bag so we take off in the
golf car, go bag falls out. I mean, but he was just
one of those guys that was justso fun to be around and yeah,
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and uh, if you had toput it had a camera around Brian Adams,
he would have been like your favoritedude back. That's awesome. Owen
Hart was another one. Owen Hartwas like. Owen Hart would do things
like, uh, hang out inthe lobby at hotels and when the guys
would like order because back in theday there wasn't new reats, you have
to order a pizza. Yeah,So of course the delivery driver comes in,
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you know, I got a pizzafor Jim Duggan. Well that's me,
you know, And then he wouldtake the pizza and hide it and
Jim Duggan would come down and says, oh, yeah, the pizza guy
came in and said you weren't hereand told you to f off, and
he's gonna take the pizza home.So then Jim Duggan's man because he didn't
have a pizza. Then Owen wouldrun the pizza up to his room,
get a free pizza. There's allthose kind of fun stories. But I
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think part of the magic of goingthrough the trials and tribulations of taking bumps
learn how to take bumps lasen upboots. Because there's the thing you people
look at it from the the glamourside of it. Oh, you're on
TV or you're making money. Yeah, but you're also working. You're missing
Anniversary's birthday, Smalliday's recitals, arrestseventeen years and flew out almost every Christmas
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Eve because we had a show onChristmas. You know, that's just part
of the gig. You know,you the talent makes such a sacrifice and
there's not you know, uh bagagehand those like NFL and MLB where they're
handling your equipment. Yeah, you'restaying at five star hotels. Yeah,
you know, you're three or fourguys deep in a car, stay at
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the red roof in driving two hundredand fifty miles the night after a show
like it's it's a business that Idon't think people would realize how non glamorous
it is. Sure, you knowso. And it's one of those kind
of things that I'm excited because Ithink the product is matured, and I
think the fan base is matured,and sure, I think it's an interesting
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look for people to see, justlike I like to watch Hard Knocks when
I see the teams and what theplayers are going through, and you know,
I think that's a great introduction tomaybe make fans and even especially if
you've got a situation where it's youngerfans that aren't really big stars yet you
get a chance to see them ontheir journey. Could you imagine you know,
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some of the something like that yearsago at the beginning of like John
Cena's career, we talked about LouisvilleGardens, you know, to see where
he's gone and what he's done andwhat he's had to endure, and it's
a it's a good interesting way tohumanize pro wrestling where it's the lack of
a better term, the red headedstep child. You can be. It's
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okay now to be a pro wrestlingfan. Absolutely, you can't have to
quantify it with something else. It'slike, well because yeah, because no,
you're just a fan. It's okay. ESPN covers it now, it's
on Bleacher Report, it's it's alegitimate sports entertainment. You know. It's
a viable in countries overseas, Japan, Australia, Europe, South Africa.
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I mean, it's everywhere. Soit's great for fans to see the product,
to see the talent and the pickand shoes who they like, yep,
Paul, this has been awesome.Man. Make sure you all check
out Paul and all the aw superstarsat the Young Center November first that that's
like, what AFC you center?I will be severely disappointed if if I
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do not have a bucket of chicken. We got to get this centers,
listen right now, Center reps.I have to make a couple of calls
for you. The big ball guylikes extra crispy. I'm just saying,
there you go. If you're goingto do it, do it. You
know. I'll just I'll have toput my calorie points in that day,
Like I only get thirty nine hundreda day. That's fine. Yeah,
I'll just eat once that day.Maybe you forget to click on your calorie
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counter that day, don't click itdon't count. Yeah that's what I think.
Maybe just that fat guy. Yeah, yeah, it's exactly. If
somebody gives it to you, there'sno calory, absolutely exactly. You don't.
You don't actively take it. It'sit's it was giving to you for
a reason as a gift. Igot one more question. We'll send you
on your way. There's been youknow. The choke slam is a popular
move in wrestling, right, doyou have the best of all time?
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I'd have to say so. Iwould say, well, you can brag
on yourself, paul you do it. I don't like to brag on myself
because I understand. The two guysthat I know that also do choke slams
are Undertaker and Cane. Yeah,you know, they do them a little
differently. I think my when Ifirst started doing the choke slam, Terry
Taylor's the one. Terry Taylor andPaula Besk gave me the chokes line because
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we're trying to think of a finishbecause back then that was a huge deal.
And there was a guy in UCWnamed nine one one that was doing
the chokes line yep. And Iremember telling Terry Taylor and nine one one
is a great dude. And Iremember telling Terry, I said, yeah,
but isn't that guy nine one one'sfinished? And he goes, kid,
when you start doing the choke slam, no one's going to know who
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we But my first choke slam wasplaning out and going all the way down,
yeah, and then I changed itto just doing the regular one.
Yeah. Because when I hit themat with the other opponent. I lessened
the recoil. So sometimes, likeI knocked Shane McMahon out twice with the
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chokeslam by going down when it's like, okay, well if I just dump
you or lay you down flat.But wrestlers, we know what dump means,
all right, So if I justdump you down, then it's better
then I go down with you.Sure it looked great me going down and
playing in it dead, yeah,but it was tougher on the other guys.
And when you're working four or fivenights in a row or seventeen eighteen
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days in a row on tours andthe guys taking that every night, like
you want to help your opponent outand make sure that uh, he's okay
with it. So I think thatmy choke slam was pretty good for pausing.
Gotcha? Gotcha? Well, onceagain, we appreciate you coming.
You could check Paul out once,say, and they are going to be
making their ae W Dynamite and debutat the KFC Young Center, so you
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can go check all those tapings outand come check Paul out, and come
check all the superstars that they havethere, fresh off the heels of their
highest paid out selling audience at allIn in London. So now's the time
to get a ticket. If youwant to go check out aw right now
you can go ahead and do it. We are the Babyfaces. My name
is Austin with Billy and our specialguest Paul White. Thank you so much
for coming by, Dude, I'venever had so much fun as a heel
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with two baby faces. Look atthat, Look at that.
Hey, this Almighty Bobby Lashly andyou're listening to the baby Face Podcast.
Hey, this is Brittle and you'relistening to the Bros. This is the
baby Faces Podcast. How's it goingup? WB Superstar, the Celtic Warrior
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Shams And you are listening to theOne the Only baby fake Fella. What's
going on? Everybody? Hey,keep listening to iHeartRadio. This is the
baby Faces Podcast. You hear thatmusic and that means you're about to get
in the ring with Billy and Itaking a little bit of a hiatus.
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You know, we always kind ofwarn you around this time of year,
football seasons coming up. Uh youalso, we have also have jobs to
kind of keep us held back alittle bit too. But when we have,
when we have some noteworthy things that'sgoing on, that's when we decide
to dive back in and get intoyour ear waves a little bit. As
you know, I am Austin.I'm here with our co host, Billy
the main man. He is alsothe offensive court not offensive coordinator of the
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quarterbacks here the passing game coordinator ofMore High School. They got a pretty
big game tonight and they've actually hada pretty good season. That's why we
haven't been in touch with Billy allthat much is he's locked in and we
want to keep him locked in forthis playoff run. Billy, how you
doing today, man, I'm doingwell. And you know, I'm super
excited about the podcast today because AllElite Wrestling is making its debut right here
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in the Ville on November first,taking over the Young Center. And uh,
not to say this lightly, butyou know we don't throw this this
word around here loosely on the podcast, but we have a legend joining us
today Austin. Yes, an absolutelegend. I mean, a big guest
on the show. I would havehim say our biggest guest literally ever on
the big guest on the show.His name is Paul White. Yeah,
and he is right here sitting nextto me. And I'll tell you what,
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it's pretty intimidating. I'm not gonnathought you guys were going to say
Hornswoggle. Hornswoggle spent some time herein Louisville too. But you know he's
he's he's probably second on the listright next to it. I love Dylan,
Dylan's Dylan's a sweetheart. I hada lot of fun with Dylan.
Did you ever see his boxing match. He did what I didn't see his
box. I still remember in Irelandwhen we got stuck in Ireland due to
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the volcano in Iceland, travel wasshut down and there was a bar in
the hotel and Dylan used to backin the day before he became a responsible
father and everything now, he usedto like to get drunk and run around
naked in the bar. There's nothingworse since seeing a giant and the animal
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Dave Bautista chasing a little person tryingto put their clothes back on him.
No, dude, you gotta putyour clothes on. We're in Ireland.
They'll take you to jail for this. Okay, this is not America.
Like you know, they're serious aboutbreaking the law over here, you know.
So you're hearing it right now.Paul White and Dave Batista's basically biggest
opponent is naked Hornswoggling. Naked Youheard, Naked Hornswoggle is a giant killer
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without a doubt, absolutely, dude, Well you are freaking the giant.
Dude. You're formerly known as aGiant from the Monday Night Wars back in
w CW and by all means,dude, you a wrestling legend. We've
been watching wrestling for a long time, so it's really cool to be here
in the same graces as you asI was downtown Louisville, as confusing as
it is, there's one way streetseverywhere. You mentioned going by the Louisville
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Gardens and you said you'd wrestle therebefore. Did any nostalgia hit you when
you went over there. Being herein Louisville and seeing that garden sign or
wrestling history. My first entring interactionwas it the Louisville Gardens Wow show for
OVW, and there was a youngman who was in OVW at the time
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that I met for the first timeby the name of John Cenae, who
had to run out during one ofthe match or something and take a few
bumps. So it was interesting seewhere. Obviously his career is gone,
but when I saw the Gardens,that's what I remember from that show.
I come in. I'd already gottenout of OVW and was back working full
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time with WW at the time,and Danny had a show and asked me
if if he could, you know, if you could pay me to come
do the show, and I waslike, no, Danny, not everything
that you did for me, noteverything to OVW do absolutely not. I
wouldn't take money for him. Icame and did the show for nothing,
and it was funny as John was. He had this eager, bright yeah
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man, whatever I can do,like, he had that great attitude.
And we've been friends for for yearsand guy knows that guy is transcend the
industry and what he's done with it. And I'm very happy that I got
to meet him and know him becauseI got to work with him a lot.
And yeah, probably owe a coupleof homes to him. So,
I mean, you talk about ayoung John Cena. Now you find yourself,
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you know, you've seen and doneit all in wrestling. You find
yourself on the AW roster that hasa lot of you know, young studs.
Is there any that you would likeshout out that you know have a
bright future? And oh, wehave a lot of young talent, but
two talents that I really like.And you know, there's a lot of
personal vested interests because I've known themsince they were small kids. That's the
thing too. I'm at the stagenow where I have guys that I wrestled
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that now I'm working with their kidsand like Tom Brady in the NFL.
Tom, Sorry, Well, youknow you've got a local ov W star
in Cal Hero. Yes, bigshout out to Cal who's a very young
young kid with a good attitude andyou know he's he's on his way.
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Austin and Colton Gun, Yes,I mean I've known those kids. I've
been friends with Billy since day oneand where I started working WW. And
I've seen Austin Colton grow up andit's funny how their personalities are so different.
Colton is this very serious, deepthinker and Austin is his dad wide
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open on like energy drinks, LikeAustin has so much energy, and they're
so young and they're so good atwhat they're doing. Their former AEW tag
team champions. There's going to bemore championships down the line for those guys.
They've got everything from having a greatdad like Billy that does a lot
of the coaching and teaching who isone of the best teachers. That's one
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thing I've noticed since I've gotten toAEW. We have two guys that are
just different from any teacher I've everhad and I've worked with. You know,
Terry Taylor had a lot to dowith me. Paul Devesk had a
lot to do with me my careerand a power plant. And they're different
styles of trainers and coaches over theyear, and I've seen a lot of
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guys training coach and they do itthey're with Billy Gunn has an amazing way
of translating body mechanics and what you'redoing and what you're thinking, like he
just looks at it and knows what'sgoing on in your head. Like Billy
is phenomenal. And then Jay Lethalthere's also an incredibly kind coach. He
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runs a school in Tampa and uh, just when I watched Lethal, because
I live in Tampa, so I'llgo work out in Jay's ring, and
just the way Jay talks to hisstudents and he's just so it's such a
calm learning environment compared to you know, when I came through the business,
there wasn't a lot of There wasn'ta lot of handholding, are stupid or
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something? You know that kind ofthing. So it's environment. It's a
more conducive environment, I would definitelysay. And then you know, also
last night getting to talk with Aland see what else knows done for his
group and absolutely out of this.It's just nice to see and be a
part of. And I get itnow at my tenure age and legendary status
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or whatever crap you want to callit, to see guys that are that
are passing that that down to theyounger generation. And that's a good thing
about ae W Excuse me, it'snot a cookie cutter promotion. I mean,
when you're a big operating machine,this giant machines, one hundred and
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seventy countries and one point seven followersin your social media platforms worldwide, it's
run like a very efficient machine.Stand here to hard camera, face hard
camera. This is your ring entrance. You do the same thing every time.
It's laid out in a way thatis very structural for the younger talent,
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which works. And the one thingthat I like different about AEW is
it's a lot more authentic from thetalent because the talent has so much more
input on the decisions they make comingto the ring, the decisions they make
in the ring, decisions in theircharacter. So that gets more back to
the roots of what pro wrestling isof it's up to the talent to make
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those choices and learn from those mistakesand there's a it's a more of a
forgiving environment in ae W two tolearn to make that connection with the audience.
And I think it's it's more conduciveto getting back to the roots of
being authentic and being in an individualthat presents uh your character, whereas you
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know in other places you don't havethat opportunity. Yeah, that opportunity is
given to you. You're given aname, intellectual property is then filed.
That company owns the intellectual property.This is how your character is being presented.
This is the way you fit asa gear in the cog of our
machine. Which if you can adjustto that and do that, you'll you'll
do well and you'll make money andyou'll be uh successful. But I think
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for younger talent, especially early intheir career, you gotta trip, you
gotta stumble, you gotta find yourselfalong the way. And even I did
that. Like I started in WCW. My first match was Hulk Hogan.
I thought, Hogan, I mean, that sounds great, fantastic, but
at the same time, it's meanta huge hurdle. You know, you're
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not going to have a lot ofexperience, so a lot of the things
being told to you really don't understandwhat you're doing. You're just doing it,
so you haven't had a chance tofind out who you are as a
talent. Sure, and that wasone of the things about coming here to
Louisville that helped me, is Igot a chance to really figure out why
I'm in this business and what thisbusiness means to others around me. Because
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I mean, if somebody comes toyou and says, hey, you're twenty
one years old, you're going towork with Hulk Hogan, You're going to
have a big contract, it's notthat your head. It's just you don't
know any different. You don't knowyou know, you know, you're you
don't know that. Oh I've gotto work a job at home depot and
then I'm tired from working the hoursto day, but I still have to
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go train. Yeah, you knowwhen I trained in the power plant in
WCW, that was my job.I had a contract to go train.
I knew that my first match wasgoing to be Hulkogan. Yeah. I
also knew that if that match wasbad, my contract probably wouldn't last more
than a year. Sure, Soit could have been a one and done,
or it could have been you know, a chance to make something.
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But even then, there wasn't anopportunity to to really fail. You had.
You were thrown in the fire.You had to find your way,
and mentally it was it was draining. Mentally, it was exhausting because you're
you're not winning in any way inthat stage and this is not a wine
poor me. I'm grateful for myentire contract, but at the same time,
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there was a lot of well,I'm working with guys that are so
seasoned to make it so easy,and oh, just listen to me,
kid, We'll be fine out thereand you're doing stuff, but you're you're
not understanding why you're doing it.And then you you know, I got
the opportunity because you know, uh, my boss that I worked for was
a was a real tough dude,you know, Evince. I thought it
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would be really good for me tofigure out what the other side of life
is about. Sure, I meanhe put his own kid on the ring
truck. Yeah, you know whatI mean. Shane worked on the ring
truck and that was my thing.The first time I put a ring together
was an OVW wow. Like youknow, like I remember Jim Cornett coming
to me I had a big Dodgedually Semi al co Is on a real
expensive truck. You know. Imean, I've already been in the business
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fore years making money and Cornett wantedme to pull the ring behind my truck.
If I do, my truck's worthmore than your ring. No,
you know what I mean. Butagain, when you do that, you
start setting up a ring and yourealize the sacrifices and things that people go
through, and then you understand what'sat the core of professional wrestling and the
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heart that goes into it and whyyou're doing it and making that relationship with
the audience. Sure, absolutely,and it seems like the company aw that
you're at now and you've been apart of multiple and what you just said,
it gives you a little bit moreand wrestler is a little bit more
of an opportunity, like you said, kind of be themselves and rather than
just kind of go out there andmake sure to look at this camera,
make sure to look at this camerjust make sure to get our character that
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we gave you over which is completelyfine and understandable from the business aspect or
if you're fans of that, butyou know, the pure wrestling side works
sometimes, but you might go throughone hundred and fifty two hundred talent to
get one, sure, yeah,you know what I mean. Whereas and
along that way you might have outof some of those talents, you might
have had talents that could have thrivedwith a little bit more individuality, a
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little bit more freedom of expression,a little bit more time to season,
right, you know what I mean. It's just and I think that's the
thing that AAW really sets up.Well, there's there's a couple of good
smaller promotions that or training schools thatAAW works with with Jay Lethal School and
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Rhodes Academy in Atlanta and OVW like, there's a lot of talents that come
in from that are getting opportunities thatthey wouldn't get in and the other place,
because the other place actually prefers totake athletes that don't know anything about
wrestling and train them their way.Yeah, to mold that and mold them
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that way. So then and thenthat's the only system they know. And
one thing I've learned and it reinforcesit was with a success that AW had
at Wembley Swing Out, you know, eighty thousand tickets and ninety percent of
them were sold just on brand alone, without an advertised car, just on
the brand. Yeah, So thatshows that there are a different way to
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do things, and it really getsback to the core of what's important for
our industry is to be something uniqueand be something different and not be the
same as someone else or try tocompete with the same look. That's not
what we're doing. We're offering aawa very professional, viable product that's pro
wrestling oriented, that has great talent. Yeah, absolutely, and you know,
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and that's I mean, you know, a lot of fans that I
talked to you like that that rigidnesstoday W has and it does kind of
I mean, if you may kindof go back to how w c W
kind of looked back and it wasjust just a different brand, a different
logo to look at and just likea different presentation. It's a different a
different feel, and you're gonna haveloyal fans on either side. But you
know, that's you know, andthat's part of it. But if you
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only have one horse in town,sure, you know, you know,
you don't know, like I mean, if you have steak every day your
entire life, or or and thenyou try something different. You might like
it, you know, it mightbe something better for you. Absolutely,
you know, so you know that'swhatever analogy I was going for there,
that completely missed the mark. Imean, you think you're like me,
or you think food. Yeah,anytime you can put steak into a reference,
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let's let's sake, you know,good hamburger, good hot dog.
Absolutely. I keep thinking about kfc'mCenter November first, or a w show.
How are they going to have chickenaround there for us? Or is
it just like a regular Like ifyou go to dunkin Donuts arena there's not
one donut in the place. That'sgreat, that's kind of ridiculous. What
are they doing up there? Idon't know. It makes me think,
do you do you remember any specificplaces here in Louisville that you guys used
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to tear down food wise after ashow? Like places? Trying to remember
it was on Hurstbourne Avenue, Ithink way out there, Max and Erma's
Max and MS Honey. Okay,they had the honey croissants. I think
thats okay. I think. SoI feel like now I know, I
feel like I've heard that before,but I feel like believe I've been hitting
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the head with a lot of chairs, so you know. And I remember
my first uh steak and shake experiencewas in Oh, yes, I think
there's only like one or left Phillyfive way or something like that. Yes,
yes, yeah, so and SkylineYeah yes, Skyline. Yeah,
that's Billy's favorite. He's from upNorth Kentucky. It's how bad my brain
works. Sometimes. You know,a good three way we'll get you right,
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I'll tell you the way, I'lldo what, I'll do whatever,
But the three ways the class likethe three I'll do a four way with
onion. Five ways onion and bI hate on and I can't do onions.
Well, there you go. Notan onion guy, I'm not an
I don't like it. I tasteone onion. But here's a kicker,
Paul, I love onion rings wellbecause it's fried. Who doesn't exactly exactly
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Listen if I get one piece ofonion on anything that I eat and immediately
ruins a flavor for me, Wow, feel bad for you. Like nothing
makes me hungry than smelling onions.Yes, onions cooking in butter and garlic,
like you prepping for something. I'mlike, oh, that's a good
smell. I'm not going anywhere allabsolutely, I'm gonna sit here next to
the dog and drool. So we'retalking about, you know, all these
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promotions having having success in today's wrestlingworld. I mean, we've talked about
OVW a couple of times, obviouslybeing local here in Louisville, and they
just had the Big Wrestlers documentary hitNetflix. You know, there's a lot
of little like you were mentioned,kind of breeding grounds like that and having
all these promotions that are having successlike the aw's and w we s and
even the Impact Wrestlings and all that. I mean, that's huge for wrestlers,
(17:59):
right, have all that much moreopportunity out there. It is,
and that's a good way of lookingat it too for the talent, because
the talent may go somewhere and notsee success in one company, and that
gives them a chance because there's anold say in resting too, sometimes you
got to go away to come back. So sometimes you have to try,
fail, regroup, try something else. But you have a little bit more
of a chance to do that ata professional level when you have viable companies
(18:22):
to go work for to make aliving, so you try something. You
know in ww that doesn't work,you can reboot yourself. You know,
they wouldn't let me do this,but I'd like to try this, and
then it becomes a natural fit andthen you become a big star, and
you know, you create a relationshipwith the audience. And that's the main
thing that I think is important foryounger wrestlers to understand, is you have
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to come across with something that youcan feel that's authentic, because the audience
doesn't really know the ins and outsand behind the scenes and politics and business
and you know, ratings per minuted. We pretend, but I mean there's
a lot of minutia that goes intoprofessional wrestling that is business oriented. But
at the core of it, it'smaking the fans. Our job and everybody
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knows this predetermined outcome and blah blahblah blah blah and all that stuff.
For the technical guys, yeah huh. But our job, if we do
it right, is we can pullyou out of it and suspend belief for
that time. Sure we all knowthat you know, Iron Man isn't real,
but when you watch it, whenyou watch Infinity Wars, stop,
(19:29):
you are breaking news right now.Yeah, you know, but the suspend
the belief. You're wrapped up inInfinity Wars, You're wrapped up in the
characters, you're wrapped up in BlackWidow, you're wrapped up in Captain Marvel
and and all that stuff. Sowhen we do our job right, and
I can't tell you how many timeshas come up to me and people try
to preface it, they say,oh, I know, I know it's
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not this, I know it's notthis, but that one time, Yeah,
but that one time, And inmy mind I'm like, yeah,
that one time we got you.Yep, we did our job because in
it's all people working together to tellthe story. It's all that we rely
on. The production crew, thecamera crew, the lighting, the television
editing people. All those people havea big play backstage that are unsung heroes,
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guys and the guys and gals inthe truck. The instant replay people
that you know, you see agreat move and bam, instantly that replays
there. Well, that doesn't justhappen magically. There's somebody back then the
team who reads and knows the business, that understands that's going to be a
great replay. Let me cut thatqueue that that's ready to go the announcers
who tell your story Tony Shavani,ex Caliber, Jim Ross, taz Me
(20:36):
once in a while. You know, we're trying to do our job and
help further along that story for theviewers at home. And then the audience
is the other member of the show, because you have to feel that when
you're between the ropes, you haveto feel that audience and pull them in
with you. You know, whetherit's you need to be more aggressive,
or you need to be less aggressive, or it's a time to have laughs
(21:00):
or some time to be serious.That's the thing that when our fans come
to our shows, that's the partthat we're pulling them into and let loose
because you're not there just to siton your butt and watch a show.
It's not a play, you know. I mean, this is something where
we want you to be a partof it. We want you to be
engaged, and we want to createa moment for you. And that's the
thing about coming to a live event. It's a moment. No I understand.
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Yes, there's there's so many thingsto entertain you when you can sit
on the couch and watch it onthe team, but when can you take
your friends or your family and goto an event that you create a memory.
Even if you never go again,you will never forget that experience the
rest of your life. That's oneof those things. Or that and it
will be that how about the onetime so and so did this? So
that one time? You know,And that's the beautiful part about our business.
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The core of it is making thatrelationship with our fans to give them
memories that one time, right,that's all that one time, one time
and one time little giants. Youall ever seen the movie, Yes,
yes, one time, one time, on time, but you just get
that one time, right. RandySavage used to have a saying like that.
Yeah, he would say, Imight throw ninety nine pieces of crap
(22:11):
against the wall, but one mightstep. I love that. It's like,
okay, just let me know wherethat wall is because I don't want
to go in that room. Right. But you know that was and that
was that was Randy's attitude too.Randy was a get knocked down, get
back up, keep punching. Yeah, you know, if I want to
dig a little bit deeper kind ofbit, if you can try to remember
back to the old old Monday nightwar days, billies, had just uh
(22:33):
mentioned wrestlers. It's kind of takingNetflix by storm a little bit, kind
of chronicles everyday life and going intowhat it's like for a wrestling business to
kind of survive right now. Andof course, ay you know it's translated
well with like it's turned into likereality and they've garnered some stars from that.
If you can think back to yourold WCW locker room, if they
had something like that where a camerawas on someone, who do you think
(22:56):
would be the star? I canthink of one talent that I know off
my off the top of my head. He's no longer with us, but
was the most incredible, dynamic personality, funny, just great dude was Brian
Adams, remember him as Crusha andI used to play golf a lot with
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Brian, and Brian was always runningsome kind of scam on strokes per hole
and it always ended up at theend of the game where he got three
or four bucks off of you,you know. But he was just like
he would do things like unclip yourgolf bag so we take off in the
golf car, go bag falls out. I mean, but he was just
one of those guys that was justso fun to be around and yeah,
(23:41):
and uh, if you had toput it had a camera around Brian Adams,
he would have been like your favoritedude back. That's awesome. Owen
Hart was another one. Owen Hartwas like. Owen Hart would do things
like, uh, hang out inthe lobby at hotels and when the guys
would like order because back in theday there wasn't new reats, you have
to order a pizza. Yeah,So of course the delivery driver comes in,
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you know, I got a pizzafor Jim Duggan. Well that's me,
you know, And then he wouldtake the pizza and hide it and
Jim Duggan would come down and says, oh, yeah, the pizza guy
came in and said you weren't hereand told you to f off, and
he's gonna take the pizza home.So then Jim Duggan's man because he didn't
have a pizza. Then Owen wouldrun the pizza up to his room,
get a free pizza. There's allthose kind of fun stories. But I
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think part of the magic of goingthrough the trials and tribulations of taking bumps
learn how to take bumps lasen upboots. Because there's the thing you people
look at it from the the glamourside of it. Oh, you're on
TV or you're making money. Yeah, but you're also working. You're missing
Anniversary's birthday, Smalliday's recitals, arrestseventeen years and flew out almost every Christmas
(24:48):
Eve because we had a show onChristmas. You know, that's just part
of the gig. You know,you the talent makes such a sacrifice and
there's not you know, uh bagagehand those like NFL and MLB where they're
handling your equipment. Yeah, you'restaying at five star hotels. Yeah,
you know, you're three or fourguys deep in a car, stay at
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the red roof in driving two hundredand fifty miles the night after a show
like it's it's a business that Idon't think people would realize how non glamorous
it is. Sure, you knowso. And it's one of those kind
of things that I'm excited because Ithink the product is matured, and I
think the fan base is matured,and sure, I think it's an interesting
(25:32):
look for people to see, justlike I like to watch Hard Knocks when
I see the teams and what theplayers are going through, and you know,
I think that's a great introduction tomaybe make fans and even especially if
you've got a situation where it's youngerfans that aren't really big stars yet you
get a chance to see them ontheir journey. Could you imagine you know,
(25:52):
some of the something like that yearsago at the beginning of like John
Cena's career, we talked about LouisvilleGardens, you know, to see where
he's gone and what he's done andwhat he's had to endure, and it's
a it's a good interesting way tohumanize pro wrestling where it's the lack of
a better term, the red headedstep child. You can be. It's
(26:15):
okay now to be a pro wrestlingfan. Absolutely, you can't have to
quantify it with something else. It'slike, well because yeah, because no,
you're just a fan. It's okay. ESPN covers it now, it's
on Bleacher Report, it's it's alegitimate sports entertainment. You know. It's
a viable in countries overseas, Japan, Australia, Europe, South Africa.
(26:38):
I mean, it's everywhere. Soit's great for fans to see the product,
to see the talent and the pickand shoes who they like, yep,
Paul, this has been awesome.Man. Make sure you all check
out Paul and all the aw superstarsat the Young Center November first that that's
like, what AFC you center?I will be severely disappointed if if I
(27:00):
do not have a bucket of chicken. We got to get this centers,
listen right now, Center reps.I have to make a couple of calls
for you. The big ball guylikes extra crispy. I'm just saying,
there you go. If you're goingto do it, do it. You
know. I'll just I'll have toput my calorie points in that day,
Like I only get thirty nine hundreda day. That's fine. Yeah,
I'll just eat once that day.Maybe you forget to click on your calorie
(27:21):
counter that day, don't click itdon't count. Yeah that's what I think.
Maybe just that fat guy. Yeah, yeah, it's exactly. If
somebody gives it to you, there'sno calory, absolutely exactly. You don't.
You don't actively take it. It'sit's it was giving to you for
a reason as a gift. Igot one more question. We'll send you
on your way. There's been youknow. The choke slam is a popular
move in wrestling, right, doyou have the best of all time?
(27:44):
I'd have to say so. Iwould say, well, you can brag
on yourself, paul you do it. I don't like to brag on myself
because I understand. The two guysthat I know that also do choke slams
are Undertaker and Cane. Yeah,you know, they do them a little
differently. I think my when Ifirst started doing the choke slam, Terry
Taylor's the one. Terry Taylor andPaula Besk gave me the chokes line because
(28:06):
we're trying to think of a finishbecause back then that was a huge deal.
And there was a guy in UCWnamed nine one one that was doing
the chokes line yep. And Iremember telling Terry Taylor and nine one one
is a great dude. And Iremember telling Terry, I said, yeah,
but isn't that guy nine one one'sfinished? And he goes, kid,
when you start doing the choke slam, no one's going to know who
(28:26):
we But my first choke slam wasplaning out and going all the way down,
yeah, and then I changed itto just doing the regular one.
Yeah. Because when I hit themat with the other opponent. I lessened
the recoil. So sometimes, likeI knocked Shane McMahon out twice with the
(28:49):
chokeslam by going down when it's like, okay, well if I just dump
you or lay you down flat.But wrestlers, we know what dump means,
all right, So if I justdump you down, then it's better
then I go down with you.Sure it looked great me going down and
playing in it dead, yeah,but it was tougher on the other guys.
And when you're working four or fivenights in a row or seventeen eighteen
(29:11):
days in a row on tours andthe guys taking that every night, like
you want to help your opponent outand make sure that uh, he's okay
with it. So I think thatmy choke slam was pretty good for pausing.
Gotcha? Gotcha? Well, onceagain, we appreciate you coming.
You could check Paul out once,say, and they are going to be
making their ae W Dynamite and debutat the KFC Young Center, so you
(29:32):
can go check all those tapings outand come check Paul out, and come
check all the superstars that they havethere, fresh off the heels of their
highest paid out selling audience at allIn in London. So now's the time
to get a ticket. If youwant to go check out aw right now
you can go ahead and do it. We are the Babyfaces. My name
is Austin with Billy and our specialguest Paul White. Thank you so much
for coming by, Dude, I'venever had so much fun as a heel
(29:55):
with two baby faces. Look atthat, Look at that.
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