December 11, 2025 • 10 mins
When was the last time you said ‘no’ without feeling guilty? That’s where this episode of The Bama Brown Experience kicks off—a candid, laugh-filled conversation about the art of self-care, setting boundaries, and navigating life’s unnecessary drama.
Bama and Puma dive into personal stories that span decades in radio, from hilarious childhood tales to unexpected lessons learned at charity events. You’ll hear why saying “no” can be liberating, how to spot drama before it derails your day, and the surprising power of responding to hostility with kindness.
Along the way, the duo shares memorable moments, including a story about a judge who tried to make court fun with an Elvis wig (spoiler: it didn’t end well) and a laugh-out-loud exchange about Baylor Law vs. Texas A&M Law sponsorships.
This episode is packed with humor, wisdom, and a few curveballs you won’t see coming. Whether you’re here for the laughs or the life lessons, you’ll leave with practical tips and a smile. Don’t miss out—subscribe now, leave us a review, and share this episode with a friend who could use a laugh (or a little self-care).
Bama and Puma dive into personal stories that span decades in radio, from hilarious childhood tales to unexpected lessons learned at charity events. You’ll hear why saying “no” can be liberating, how to spot drama before it derails your day, and the surprising power of responding to hostility with kindness.
Along the way, the duo shares memorable moments, including a story about a judge who tried to make court fun with an Elvis wig (spoiler: it didn’t end well) and a laugh-out-loud exchange about Baylor Law vs. Texas A&M Law sponsorships.
This episode is packed with humor, wisdom, and a few curveballs you won’t see coming. Whether you’re here for the laughs or the life lessons, you’ll leave with practical tips and a smile. Don’t miss out—subscribe now, leave us a review, and share this episode with a friend who could use a laugh (or a little self-care).
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
All right, everybody, ma'ama brown with you. Okay, I got
to start out with apology. Sorry about the story Yesterdew
with my dad and the cat. I'm not going to
relive it because I had a couple of weeks we
just thought that wasn't funny at all, And it wasn't funny.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
It was dramatic at the time.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Why I'm not laughing, you busted your ass laughing that
you're a horrible person.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
I am not uncontrollably uncontrollably laughing out of instinct.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
We're laughing about dads and how old dads were mean,
and you know, because we earned it.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Really, you know, I.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Hesitate to go story for story with you there because
there's a bit of an age gap between us and
the stories I have from my childhood. You can't just
blame it on that simpler time or a different era.
We're talking about the nineties.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
And yeah, your dad's still with us too, so right, yeah, yeah,
there's no you know, we got a statute of limitations
on some of the shit. You know, we got to
hold off long gone heat anyway, Okay, so'll go the
opposite direction here.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Oh, by the way, we live tonight what's happening, Bud,
He tells us.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah, back Thursday, back live tonight over on YouTube, trying
to get back to our normal schedule before the Christmas
holiday throws it all out of whack again. But eight
o'clock downbeat over on YouTube at Sports Cave Live, coming
out with.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Us and the Bama Brown Experience has over ten thousand listeners.
We appreciate that there's three hundred and forty something shows
that you can go back and listen to all of
them anywhere from.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Ten to thirteen minutes. You'll probably get a laugh or
two in there.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Nothing serious, but ads are all at the beginning that, oh,
my daughter's upset because I have to laugh about this.
My daughter went to Baylor Law. She's an attorney, twent
to Baylor Law.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
And one of our.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Sponsors is Texas A and M Law Schools. So thank you,
gig them go Aggies, thank you for sponsoring the show.
They were one of many sponsors that we have in
those checks. Yeah, my daughter was so upset, and I go, well,
you know, Baylor could spend a little money too, And
you know what her answer was to that, Taylor doesn't
have to Oh, oh, Baylor Lawyers are snooty, man.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I'm telling you. They know everything just.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
As you when you crank out big time individuals like
Kenneth Star.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah you can act that way. Yeah you can be
that way, Kenneth Stars.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
There's a some there's some of those episodes we did
where maybe one or both of us lost track of
the clock. Some of them are pushing like twenty five
thirty minutes?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Are they really? I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
There's been a couple where, usually Friday episodes, where we
start by saying we're going to be short today, it's Friday,
it's the weekend, and then we get end up well,
we usually end up telling old stories about our dads
or childhood, and all of a sudden, we're at twenty
something minutes.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
You know, thirty eight years of being radio, have had
a lot of partners, but I truly enjoy uh.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
And I was lucky.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I begged and they gave me Puma to be for
a partner, and so I was lucky to get that.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
And I always tell Jason how much I love you.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
So that's part of it is we can't even start laughing,
like we would just be like, okay, we're gonna talk
like we'll.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Be doing this anyway, so at least we're getting paid.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
So I was about to say, speaking of sending the checks,
I'll make sure you get your check for for all
of that, for all of that flattering.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
You just did. But no, it's.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Absolutely the truth and it's done very well. Then his
sponsored now and be here for a while. So that's
kind of cool. Uh okay, here's what we'll do a
nice thing. I said that earlier with self care. This
is a four things you can do that a lot
of experts, these surveys that they do, they talk to people,
they say, what is the importance of self care? Here's
(03:53):
like three things. Uh. Number one, get comfy saying no
if you don't want to do something and don't go
and just tell him I ain't going, And that way
you're leaving the guilt out of it.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
You're well and don't leave it up to don't play
the game of oh yeah, maybe maybe I can maybe
maybe like But there's a balance. There's a goldilocks zone
between being noncommittal and just saying, oh yeah, yeah, maybe
I'll let you know. I'll let you know if I'm available,
maybe I'll do that, or just being the defiant direct,
(04:27):
like there's no chance in hell I'm doing that, absolutely not,
you know, find some balance between those two, but be
direct saying.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I was thinking the other day many of the Uh
I interrupted, Jim, Sorry, uh. I was thinking the other
day about how many charitable events I did through the
radio all those years, and I and I have and
I discovered something because I'm a I.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Believe it or not.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I don't like people that don't want to be in
your around people. I just don't like doing the show,
you know, on the radio, but not for a audience.
I mean, he's I just kind of like enjoyed having
the laughs or so. But every time I did a
charity event, every single time, I got something out of
it myself, you know, met somebody or something that I
did not see coming. And that's why I did so many.
(05:14):
I was selfish in it. I mean, I know I
was helping people, and my audience listened to hundreds of
thousands of people that would listen, would donate to everything.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
You know, we did a million.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Coats the coach for kid alone, so very proud of that.
But one of the things was that I always got
something or met somebody interesting or something came from it
that I didn't anticipate, and that's why I kept doing
those things.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
And I always had a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Uh anyway, you saying know that another one was unnecessary
drama if you smell it coming, you see it coming
the other way, or diffuse it, you know. And somebody
told me one of those jock buddies of mine, he said,
you know when people come up and people will come
up and go, you suck or something like that, and
you if you will stop and say really, because you know,
(06:00):
I thought I really liked you, I mean from the
get go, I thought, and you could be friends. He said,
it completely would diffuse the situation and make them automatically
try to fix it, because that's human nature. I want
to fix what's screwed up. And when you would, he said,
every time I did that, and he said, I'm talking
about it. And this guy was talk radio, so he
(06:21):
said a lot of shit that made people like ready
to cut.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
His throat, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
And so the only time I remember doing it, I
hosted the Republican dinner one time and I said, Jesus
Christ is and this lady got offended. I said Jesus
Christ because sometimes really total right wing people. That's a
that's a bad one with them, you know. And so I,
of course I'm a heathen, so it didn't matter me
at all. But I said, oh my gosh, I didn't
mean to offend you. And when you came up, you
(06:48):
had the greatest smile, and I thought you and I
were going to immediately hit it off.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And so here she was.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Now it's like you came over and bitched, you know,
And so she said you were extremely funny. Other than
that one thing offended me. And I said, you know,
I didn't even think of that, and I will fix that.
You know, I don't want to offend anybody, especially at
ten thousand dollars table Reagan dinner, which they asked.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
You actually yeah, min detail.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, because Rick Perry he was there, and he said
I would go. I go, you know, I'm a convicted fella,
so I can't really vote for anybody. I don't really
have a dog in a fight. But if I could
vote for Rick, Rick says, vote as many time as
you can for him, you know, And then he got
a he goes, quit telling people you're a convicted fellain,
you know, people taking you serious, don't do that. Anymore,
(07:34):
you know, and that he's a lot of fun. He's
actually a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
And yeah, you got you gotta be able to have
a little bit of fun. I think that catching people
shooting their wheels off like that, by responding to the
hostility with compliment that it's I can see how that's
immediately disarming.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I didn't invent it. God taught me that.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
You know, that's something I could learn because if you
approached me with hostility, buddy, my first reaction, my my,
my human nature is not to immediately compliment you on anything, right.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
It's to tell you to f off and then get
out in the face and who are you or something
like that.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
But it just really that that's one time I had
to use it. I've had some other.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Times where people come up and you know, and you
suck and you know, all I can get always say whatever?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
You know that came from slap Shot.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I think it was, you know when Paul Newman's it's
all I could get.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
You don't really have a comeback?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
What do you say to that?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Are we out of time and we got do you
want to stop or you want to keep going? There?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I got one more, one more, let's see I've probably
come up with a bonehead.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Let's see here. Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Oh, Judge Matthew Thornhill, I thought of you. He's a
judge or was a judge in Missouri.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
He put on an Elvis wig and played Elvis music
while he was in court, you know, as a judge
working trial. They put ELVISI on and started doing impression
and they kicked him out, and I was like, he goes, dude,
I just trying.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
To make court fun. That's all I was doing, you know.
So it's not certain.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Some things are just not supposed to be fun.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, Like I don't need I don't like this.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Is like when you see a local you know, police
department doing bits, you know, doing TikTok videos, Like I
don't need you to be jumping on the most recent
social trends, like just keep us safe, help out, you know,
serve and protect, move on your ye not work on
your social presence.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Well, when you go to trial again, I'll tell the
judge that your honor he doesn't like you to have
person This man right here her he thinks that you
don't have any personality and he he don't know nothing
about it. So I'll help you I'll help you in court,
sure it will go over great.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Thank you, thank you,
All right, everybody, ma'ama brown with you. Okay, I got
to start out with apology. Sorry about the story Yesterdew
with my dad and the cat. I'm not going to
relive it because I had a couple of weeks we
just thought that wasn't funny at all, And it wasn't funny.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
It was dramatic at the time.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Why I'm not laughing, you busted your ass laughing that
you're a horrible person.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
I am not uncontrollably uncontrollably laughing out of instinct.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
We're laughing about dads and how old dads were mean,
and you know, because we earned it.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Really, you know, I.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Hesitate to go story for story with you there because
there's a bit of an age gap between us and
the stories I have from my childhood. You can't just
blame it on that simpler time or a different era.
We're talking about the nineties.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
And yeah, your dad's still with us too, so right, yeah, yeah,
there's no you know, we got a statute of limitations
on some of the shit. You know, we got to
hold off long gone heat anyway, Okay, so'll go the
opposite direction here.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Oh, by the way, we live tonight what's happening, Bud,
He tells us.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah, back Thursday, back live tonight over on YouTube, trying
to get back to our normal schedule before the Christmas
holiday throws it all out of whack again. But eight
o'clock downbeat over on YouTube at Sports Cave Live, coming
out with.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Us and the Bama Brown Experience has over ten thousand listeners.
We appreciate that there's three hundred and forty something shows
that you can go back and listen to all of
them anywhere from.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Ten to thirteen minutes. You'll probably get a laugh or
two in there.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Nothing serious, but ads are all at the beginning that, oh,
my daughter's upset because I have to laugh about this.
My daughter went to Baylor Law. She's an attorney, twent
to Baylor Law.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
And one of our.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Sponsors is Texas A and M Law Schools. So thank you,
gig them go Aggies, thank you for sponsoring the show.
They were one of many sponsors that we have in
those checks. Yeah, my daughter was so upset, and I go, well,
you know, Baylor could spend a little money too, And
you know what her answer was to that, Taylor doesn't
have to Oh, oh, Baylor Lawyers are snooty, man.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I'm telling you. They know everything just.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
As you when you crank out big time individuals like
Kenneth Star.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah you can act that way. Yeah you can be
that way, Kenneth Stars.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
There's a some there's some of those episodes we did
where maybe one or both of us lost track of
the clock. Some of them are pushing like twenty five
thirty minutes?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Are they really? I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
There's been a couple where, usually Friday episodes, where we
start by saying we're going to be short today, it's Friday,
it's the weekend, and then we get end up well,
we usually end up telling old stories about our dads
or childhood, and all of a sudden, we're at twenty
something minutes.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
You know, thirty eight years of being radio, have had
a lot of partners, but I truly enjoy uh.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
And I was lucky.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I begged and they gave me Puma to be for
a partner, and so I was lucky to get that.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
And I always tell Jason how much I love you.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
So that's part of it is we can't even start laughing,
like we would just be like, okay, we're gonna talk
like we'll.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Be doing this anyway, so at least we're getting paid.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
So I was about to say, speaking of sending the checks,
I'll make sure you get your check for for all
of that, for all of that flattering.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
You just did. But no, it's.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Absolutely the truth and it's done very well. Then his
sponsored now and be here for a while. So that's
kind of cool. Uh okay, here's what we'll do a
nice thing. I said that earlier with self care. This
is a four things you can do that a lot
of experts, these surveys that they do, they talk to people,
they say, what is the importance of self care? Here's
(03:53):
like three things. Uh. Number one, get comfy saying no
if you don't want to do something and don't go
and just tell him I ain't going, And that way
you're leaving the guilt out of it.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
You're well and don't leave it up to don't play
the game of oh yeah, maybe maybe I can maybe
maybe like But there's a balance. There's a goldilocks zone
between being noncommittal and just saying, oh yeah, yeah, maybe
I'll let you know. I'll let you know if I'm available,
maybe I'll do that, or just being the defiant direct,
(04:27):
like there's no chance in hell I'm doing that, absolutely not,
you know, find some balance between those two, but be
direct saying.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I was thinking the other day many of the Uh
I interrupted, Jim, Sorry, uh. I was thinking the other
day about how many charitable events I did through the
radio all those years, and I and I have and
I discovered something because I'm a I.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Believe it or not.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I don't like people that don't want to be in
your around people. I just don't like doing the show,
you know, on the radio, but not for a audience.
I mean, he's I just kind of like enjoyed having
the laughs or so. But every time I did a
charity event, every single time, I got something out of
it myself, you know, met somebody or something that I
did not see coming. And that's why I did so many.
(05:14):
I was selfish in it. I mean, I know I
was helping people, and my audience listened to hundreds of
thousands of people that would listen, would donate to everything.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
You know, we did a million.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Coats the coach for kid alone, so very proud of that.
But one of the things was that I always got
something or met somebody interesting or something came from it
that I didn't anticipate, and that's why I kept doing
those things.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
And I always had a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Uh anyway, you saying know that another one was unnecessary
drama if you smell it coming, you see it coming
the other way, or diffuse it, you know. And somebody
told me one of those jock buddies of mine, he said,
you know when people come up and people will come
up and go, you suck or something like that, and
you if you will stop and say really, because you know,
(06:00):
I thought I really liked you, I mean from the
get go, I thought, and you could be friends. He said,
it completely would diffuse the situation and make them automatically
try to fix it, because that's human nature. I want
to fix what's screwed up. And when you would, he said,
every time I did that, and he said, I'm talking
about it. And this guy was talk radio, so he
(06:21):
said a lot of shit that made people like ready
to cut.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
His throat, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
And so the only time I remember doing it, I
hosted the Republican dinner one time and I said, Jesus
Christ is and this lady got offended. I said Jesus
Christ because sometimes really total right wing people. That's a
that's a bad one with them, you know. And so I,
of course I'm a heathen, so it didn't matter me
at all. But I said, oh my gosh, I didn't
mean to offend you. And when you came up, you
(06:48):
had the greatest smile, and I thought you and I
were going to immediately hit it off.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And so here she was.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Now it's like you came over and bitched, you know,
And so she said you were extremely funny. Other than
that one thing offended me. And I said, you know,
I didn't even think of that, and I will fix that.
You know, I don't want to offend anybody, especially at
ten thousand dollars table Reagan dinner, which they asked.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
You actually yeah, min detail.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, because Rick Perry he was there, and he said
I would go. I go, you know, I'm a convicted fella,
so I can't really vote for anybody. I don't really
have a dog in a fight. But if I could
vote for Rick, Rick says, vote as many time as
you can for him, you know, And then he got
a he goes, quit telling people you're a convicted fellain,
you know, people taking you serious, don't do that. Anymore,
(07:34):
you know, and that he's a lot of fun. He's
actually a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
And yeah, you got you gotta be able to have
a little bit of fun. I think that catching people
shooting their wheels off like that, by responding to the
hostility with compliment that it's I can see how that's
immediately disarming.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I didn't invent it. God taught me that.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
You know, that's something I could learn because if you
approached me with hostility, buddy, my first reaction, my my,
my human nature is not to immediately compliment you on anything, right.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
It's to tell you to f off and then get
out in the face and who are you or something
like that.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
But it just really that that's one time I had
to use it. I've had some other.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Times where people come up and you know, and you
suck and you know, all I can get always say whatever?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
You know that came from slap Shot.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I think it was, you know when Paul Newman's it's
all I could get.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
You don't really have a comeback?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
What do you say to that?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Are we out of time and we got do you
want to stop or you want to keep going? There?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I got one more, one more, let's see I've probably
come up with a bonehead.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Let's see here. Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Oh, Judge Matthew Thornhill, I thought of you. He's a
judge or was a judge in Missouri.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
He put on an Elvis wig and played Elvis music
while he was in court, you know, as a judge
working trial. They put ELVISI on and started doing impression
and they kicked him out, and I was like, he goes, dude,
I just trying.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
To make court fun. That's all I was doing, you know.
So it's not certain.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Some things are just not supposed to be fun.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, Like I don't need I don't like this.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Is like when you see a local you know, police
department doing bits, you know, doing TikTok videos, Like I
don't need you to be jumping on the most recent
social trends, like just keep us safe, help out, you know,
serve and protect, move on your ye not work on
your social presence.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Well, when you go to trial again, I'll tell the
judge that your honor he doesn't like you to have
person This man right here her he thinks that you
don't have any personality and he he don't know nothing
about it. So I'll help you I'll help you in court,
sure it will go over great.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Thank you, thank you,
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