May 29, 2025 • 7 mins
What does it take to keep a city’s music soul alive when developers, gentrification, and time threaten to erase it?In this heartfelt and hilariously offbeat episode of The Ben and Skin Show, Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray dive deep into the beating heart of the DFW music scene—and it’s as wild, weird, and wonderful as you’d expect.From Krystina’s Nirvana cover band Oatmeal Pizza (yes, you read that right) to a passionate plea to save Fort Worth’s beloved venue The Cicada, the crew blends humor, nostalgia, and genuine love for local music into an unforgettable hour of radio. You’ll hear about the upcoming June 8th benefit show, the rise of Fort Worth as a cultural powerhouse, and the bittersweet tug-of-war between community and commercialization.But the real showstopper? Skin’s tribute to his high school buddy Rob Dunlap—a 7-foot-tall, bearded legend—whose band The Golden Falcons is reuniting for a 20-year anniversary show at Double Wide. With a vinyl reissue of their cult-classic Honduras album and a stacked lineup including Hawk vs. Dove and Minor Tigers, this episode is a rallying cry for anyone who’s ever moshed in a dive bar or discovered their favorite band in a back alley venue.Memorable Moments:
- “The Eagle was here before radio existed… back in the Tin Pan Alley days.”
- “Imagine a 7-footer with a beard down to his chest belting out indie rock—how do you not go to that show?”
- “We should’ve called it the Wildlife Tour: Golden Falcons, Hawk vs. Dove, Minor Tigers!”
- The evolution (and gentrification) of DFW’s music neighborhoods
- The importance of supporting local venues and artists
- Nostalgia, friendship, and the power of music to bring people back together
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right. The Eagle has been a part of your
music community here in the DFW for a very long time. Yeah, centuries, centuries,
even before radio existed. The Eagle was here helping local bands.
(00:20):
Back during the ten Pan Alley days. It was just
right here supporting all your local music. In fact, a
lot of people don't know how our studio is set up.
But if I just do like a hard ninety to write,
I see, Christina, Hey, what are you doing in there?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Just hanging out?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
What is aren't aren't you in a local band?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I am in a local band.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Tell us about it?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Nirvana cover band. We're called Pizza and uh yeah, do
you want to know our next show and everything? I
absolutely do, Christina, Hey, our next show is a big
one actually. So the Cicada is a little venue out
in Fort Worth. I love the place and we're putting
on a big event. Well we're not putting it on.
We're involved in a big event to save the Cicada.
(01:02):
So we're playing it along with a son of Stan
I know they're on the bill as well, and just
a bunch of local bands. So, and it's June eighth.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
June eighth is a Sunday Okay, our buddy Jordan, who
is in son of Stan George. I saw him at
the White Denim Show and he had just you know,
I guess I saw it on Instagram talking about you know,
fort Worth we mentioned this recently. It's got over a
million people now. Fort Worth is the number eleven market
(01:32):
by itself. Crazy, isn't that crazy? But also what happens
is is then things change and it's kind of like
what's going on with Deep Elam is wildly different than
it used to be because a bunch of land developers
own big chunks of it and they change it. And
we can have this whole conversation about gentrification and then
this other conversation about you know, the characteristics of a neighborhood.
(01:55):
You live near Oak Cliff and the Bishop Arts District,
and that's always been a thing going on down there,
and all the people that were in on oak Cliffe
early and then the developers coming in. There's always this
tug of war. And a place like North Texas where
money's coming in and people are coming in and real
estate guys that were sports coats in the summer are
(02:15):
wanting to just you know, make their profit. I get it.
Business fuels the world. I'm just saying, it's just a
thing that we all have to deal with, and so
your venues have to deal with that too, and little
tiny venues that struggle to stay in business but have
a lot of character, like the one you're talking about,
the Cicada, Like, you have to do things. If you
(02:36):
cherish those things, you do have to go to local
shows and support it and literally be a part of
a community. There's always been complaints here locally that the
music community doesn't do a good enough job of supporting itself.
I think if people knew how many DFW musicians are
out there operating on a huge level, like I'll find
(02:58):
out stuff like, oh yeah, he went to Booker t
he's the music director for Janet Jackson. That stuff is
all over the music industry. I'm telling you, we just
crank out elite level musicians. But there's always been complaints
about how our local music scene functions. And if you're
a big music fan and you listen to The Eagle,
so you probably are, you need to really try to
(03:19):
carve out time to go to local shows if that
part of a city's identity means something to you. And
so I love that you're doing that, Christina.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, I'm excited to be a part of it.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
We on this show want to do more things to
support local music, and we will try. And I got
a text message. My DFW music thing is kind of
goes up and down, and there's time periods where like
me and Ben were leaning in on sports radio and
I wasn't as involved in the music scene at that
time period because I was having my wife was having babies,
and I was trying to figure out my professional life
from going to games. I was going to games and
(03:53):
during that time period, there's a guy who's a people
probably know him if they go to restaurants a lot
around town named Rob Dunlap Big Rob Duneloud.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yes, he's a seven footer with a crazy long beard. Okay.
I played high school basketball with him. I've known him
since we were teenagers. I love him. I met him
over the summer at last summer at Yeah Good Ones. Yeah,
he's currently working at Good Ones. He's worked Atighbwood, He's
worked all over the place. But also him and another
one of our homies, Ryan Sutton, that went to These
(04:23):
two guys went to Bertner High School with me. They
are in a band called the Golden Falcons that was
gigging a lot during that time period where I was
not around the music scene, so I never actually got
to see Robert's band live. They're doing a twenty year
reunion of their album, the Honduras Album Okay, and they
have pressed up one hundred copies of it on vinyl
(04:46):
and they are performing at the Double Wide this Saturday night,
and I just wanted to support them. They're my homies.
I think it's awesome that they're wanting to get back
together and you know, do this after all this time.
And so I have one of their songs Christine, I
would like you to play it now. It's called Balm.
And if you go on Saturday night to go see
(05:07):
the Golden Falcons and they are going to be playing
with another band called hawk Verse Dove. Yes, yes there
is a badass name. The opener is Minor Tigers. So
think about what a wildlife building we should have done
around the wild life is here it is, here's Balm
from the Golden Falcons.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yes, it's fun and double Wyatt is always some time.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
And think about the guy singing it as a seven
footer with a beard down to the ass.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yeah, this sounds like crap I'd listened to, man.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah, turn it up.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
I have a song called the Moon, the Gutter and
Ferguson Jakins.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Can I get you guys to go see Golden Falcons
with me Saturday night?
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I'm gonna be out of town. What an ass if tournament? Man,
I hate you, but I Pristina. Now the Hondura's album
not there on Spotify.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, so come buy your copy of the Honduras album,
I mean, and not only that, are you kidding me?
You also get to see Hawk Verse, Dove and Minor Tuh.
So they're gonna be at the Double Wide Saturday night.
And again I can't explain how awesome. So Ryan's gonna be, like, man,
Skin's talking a lot about rob what about me? You're
great to Ryan, but I can't tell you how awesome Robert.
(07:14):
I mean, I played basketball with him. I love the
guy and he's seven feet tall and he's cool as
f And imagine that guy up there singing that song.
So go out to the Double Wide on Saturday night,
support local music and buy a copy of the Honduras album.
All right, coming up next playoff time? Or maybe not
(07:34):
for the Rangers, we'll discuss all that right here. On
ninety seven point one, the Eagle
All right. The Eagle has been a part of your
music community here in the DFW for a very long time. Yeah, centuries, centuries,
even before radio existed. The Eagle was here helping local bands.
(00:20):
Back during the ten Pan Alley days. It was just
right here supporting all your local music. In fact, a
lot of people don't know how our studio is set up.
But if I just do like a hard ninety to write,
I see, Christina, Hey, what are you doing in there?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Just hanging out?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
What is aren't aren't you in a local band?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I am in a local band.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Tell us about it?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Nirvana cover band. We're called Pizza and uh yeah, do
you want to know our next show and everything? I
absolutely do, Christina, Hey, our next show is a big
one actually. So the Cicada is a little venue out
in Fort Worth. I love the place and we're putting
on a big event. Well we're not putting it on.
We're involved in a big event to save the Cicada.
(01:02):
So we're playing it along with a son of Stan
I know they're on the bill as well, and just
a bunch of local bands. So, and it's June eighth.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
June eighth is a Sunday Okay, our buddy Jordan, who
is in son of Stan George. I saw him at
the White Denim Show and he had just you know,
I guess I saw it on Instagram talking about you know,
fort Worth we mentioned this recently. It's got over a
million people now. Fort Worth is the number eleven market
(01:32):
by itself. Crazy, isn't that crazy? But also what happens
is is then things change and it's kind of like
what's going on with Deep Elam is wildly different than
it used to be because a bunch of land developers
own big chunks of it and they change it. And
we can have this whole conversation about gentrification and then
this other conversation about you know, the characteristics of a neighborhood.
(01:55):
You live near Oak Cliff and the Bishop Arts District,
and that's always been a thing going on down there,
and all the people that were in on oak Cliffe
early and then the developers coming in. There's always this
tug of war. And a place like North Texas where
money's coming in and people are coming in and real
estate guys that were sports coats in the summer are
(02:15):
wanting to just you know, make their profit. I get it.
Business fuels the world. I'm just saying, it's just a
thing that we all have to deal with, and so
your venues have to deal with that too, and little
tiny venues that struggle to stay in business but have
a lot of character, like the one you're talking about,
the Cicada, Like, you have to do things. If you
(02:36):
cherish those things, you do have to go to local
shows and support it and literally be a part of
a community. There's always been complaints here locally that the
music community doesn't do a good enough job of supporting itself.
I think if people knew how many DFW musicians are
out there operating on a huge level, like I'll find
(02:58):
out stuff like, oh yeah, he went to Booker t
he's the music director for Janet Jackson. That stuff is
all over the music industry. I'm telling you, we just
crank out elite level musicians. But there's always been complaints
about how our local music scene functions. And if you're
a big music fan and you listen to The Eagle,
so you probably are, you need to really try to
(03:19):
carve out time to go to local shows if that
part of a city's identity means something to you. And
so I love that you're doing that, Christina.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, I'm excited to be a part of it.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
We on this show want to do more things to
support local music, and we will try. And I got
a text message. My DFW music thing is kind of
goes up and down, and there's time periods where like
me and Ben were leaning in on sports radio and
I wasn't as involved in the music scene at that
time period because I was having my wife was having babies,
and I was trying to figure out my professional life
from going to games. I was going to games and
(03:53):
during that time period, there's a guy who's a people
probably know him if they go to restaurants a lot
around town named Rob Dunlap Big Rob Duneloud.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yes, he's a seven footer with a crazy long beard. Okay.
I played high school basketball with him. I've known him
since we were teenagers. I love him. I met him
over the summer at last summer at Yeah Good Ones. Yeah,
he's currently working at Good Ones. He's worked Atighbwood, He's
worked all over the place. But also him and another
one of our homies, Ryan Sutton, that went to These
(04:23):
two guys went to Bertner High School with me. They
are in a band called the Golden Falcons that was
gigging a lot during that time period where I was
not around the music scene, so I never actually got
to see Robert's band live. They're doing a twenty year
reunion of their album, the Honduras Album Okay, and they
have pressed up one hundred copies of it on vinyl
(04:46):
and they are performing at the Double Wide this Saturday night,
and I just wanted to support them. They're my homies.
I think it's awesome that they're wanting to get back
together and you know, do this after all this time.
And so I have one of their songs Christine, I
would like you to play it now. It's called Balm.
And if you go on Saturday night to go see
(05:07):
the Golden Falcons and they are going to be playing
with another band called hawk Verse Dove. Yes, yes there
is a badass name. The opener is Minor Tigers. So
think about what a wildlife building we should have done
around the wild life is here it is, here's Balm
from the Golden Falcons.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yes, it's fun and double Wyatt is always some time.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
And think about the guy singing it as a seven
footer with a beard down to the ass.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yeah, this sounds like crap I'd listened to, man.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah, turn it up.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
I have a song called the Moon, the Gutter and
Ferguson Jakins.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Can I get you guys to go see Golden Falcons
with me Saturday night?
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I'm gonna be out of town. What an ass if tournament? Man,
I hate you, but I Pristina. Now the Hondura's album
not there on Spotify.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, so come buy your copy of the Honduras album,
I mean, and not only that, are you kidding me?
You also get to see Hawk Verse, Dove and Minor Tuh.
So they're gonna be at the Double Wide Saturday night.
And again I can't explain how awesome. So Ryan's gonna be, like, man,
Skin's talking a lot about rob what about me? You're
great to Ryan, but I can't tell you how awesome Robert.
(07:14):
I mean, I played basketball with him. I love the
guy and he's seven feet tall and he's cool as
f And imagine that guy up there singing that song.
So go out to the Double Wide on Saturday night,
support local music and buy a copy of the Honduras album.
All right, coming up next playoff time? Or maybe not
(07:34):
for the Rangers, we'll discuss all that right here. On
ninety seven point one, the Eagle
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