November 5, 2025 • 7 mins
"What’s your blind trust threshold for Rotten Tomatoes—80% critics, 80% audience, or just vibes?"In this wildly entertaining episode of The Ben and Skin Show, the crew—Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray—dive into a rapid-fire mix of movie madness, music shoutouts, and unexpected comedy gold.Skin kicks things off with a passionate plug for Paul Schalda’s new music video and things quickly spiral into a hilarious debate over forgotten films, mistaken identities, and the confusing world of Rotten Tomatoes scores.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bam, Ben and Skin Show ninety one point one The Eagle.
Thanks for hanging out with us today. Don't forget Friday.
We're at the Chalk Talk Casino and Resort and Durant, Oklahoma.
Join us there. Later in the show, we'll give away
tickets to see Nothing More at the south Side Ballroom.
You've got to be listening for your chance to win
and have the iHeart app because you will definitely be
using that. What are the movies you need to know
(00:21):
about in the month of November. Kat will tell us
here in fifteen minutes, But right now it's time for
this Skin Is Track, another edition of things Skin Is Traffic.
Thank you, Thank you America. I got a lot of
things I want to get to rapid fire. I want
to direct everyone's attention to a friend of ours who
(00:41):
actually is going to be at Rollertown Beer Works. That's
the brewery. Ben and I are partners in Tomorrow Night
Thursday Night for his album listening party, Paul Shalde. But
he did a music video. It came out today. It
was directed by our friends TC and The Machine and
it's got a guest appearance from Christina's boyfriend in it. Oh,
it's an amazing video. It's an amazing video. And how
(01:04):
did you feel about your boyfriend? I thought he was
the star. He was the highlight of a video for sure.
What's he doing in it? I haven't seen it. I
gotta watch it. Where is it? It's on YouTube if
you go to I'm skin Weight on Instagram and it's
on my feed on my stories there's there's links to it.
Or if you just want to go watch it on YouTube,
do YouTube and Eastwood Music Group in Paul's videos right there.
(01:28):
This song is called Lately. But the one thing I
would say about Christina's boyfriend is, if you're a film buff,
it's very much citizen Siroy. So okay. Then, so he's
in it, he's starring in it, he's like a character
in or he's got a cameo in it. How would
you describe it? I would say he is, yeah, the
(01:49):
star in it, oh okay, And he's in about one
twenty fifth of the video. Okay, okay, but it's a
star turn Yeah, I'm much you're my in it?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
You right that way?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Secifically not in it? And real quick. That song is gorgeous.
I love that song. It's a wonderful song and Ben
and I love reasons for you to hang out at
Rollertown Beer Work. So if you want to come hang
out with us and Paul Paul Shalda tomorrow night for
a record listening party. Okay, uh, I somehow missed this
movie and it was on late night. It was not
(02:23):
on a xcess cable because you guys know, I'm always
watching that channel for music documentaries. They're poorly produced. I'm
so glad I don't live with you and you have
the remote control. Your life is frustrated. Can you imagine
me and Ben Land in bed and he wants to
watch I'm like, man, let's watch Boogie Knights again. By
Roadhouse is on. Okay, there's a movie and I remember
(02:46):
it coming out. I don't know why I didn't see it,
because it's in the wheelhouse of me seeing every movie
that comes out. It's got three of the greatest actors
of old time. This has came out in two thousand
and one. My kids weren't born yet. I was going
to every movie. Somehow I missed the two thousand and
one movie The Heist with Marlon Brando, Robert de Niro,
(03:06):
and Edward Norton, and I watched it, so yes, I
did fall asleep at one point thirty because I was like,
how have I never seen this? And I pulled it up.
It's directed by Frank Oz. You guys know who that is,
the great Missus Piggy. He did that incredible movie that
(03:26):
we talked about so much a couple of years about
years ago, in and of itself with that magician. Oh yeah,
remember that Frank Oz directed? That? Is it the score? Oh?
Is it called the score? Just called the score? My bad?
My bad? It's called the score? Yes, screw me see
that again. That's why I haven't seen it two thousand
(03:48):
and one. Marlon Brando ended up dying a few years later.
But those three guys are probably if you, if you
quiz like film critics and filmmakers and go, all right,
who are the fifty best actors of the last fifty years?
I bet all of them would say those three guys. Okay,
Mike Brando is first, the first like real method actor
(04:09):
that became a big star. Everybody knows de Niro and
man Edward Norton's freaking incredible. And I was like, how
did I miss this? And it was really satisfying. It's
a heist kper thing. So you've got intrigue and then
it's a double triple cross movie. And then you have
these three incredible actors all going toe to toe, and
(04:31):
it's so interesting seeing de Niro in two thousand and one.
It's like a quarter of a century ago and he
let's Meet the Parents. Age. Think even before that, what
year did Meet the Parents come out? I was thought
two thousand ish?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Okay, you said this was two thousand and one, right, yeah,
I mean The Parents was two thousand wow, so it's
right around that time.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, he doesn't look old and washed.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, I mean I see you Meet the Parents on
It is crazy how Ben Steeler kind of looks the
same outside of the gray hair. But Robert DeNiro, I
think he's really young. Yeah, can you I've never even
heard of this movie.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
It's incredible, like it's real, and I vaguely remember it
coming out, and I don't know why I skipped it, dude,
I mean it's two years after what.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Oh never mind, I was getting the Rotten Tomatoes score.
But it's a there's another movie called the Score that's
really bad.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
What is the Rotten Tomatoes star Babelfenberg. I'm trying to
Rotten Tomatoes for the score is seventy four percent. Okay,
I mean see, I thought you were talking about Heist,
which came out in two thousand and one. Okay, it's great,
a Gene Hackman movie. Oh, I don't think I've seen
that really good. That's heighst not the highest, which is
nineteen eighty nine. Pierce prosent movie which she dips Catherine
(05:37):
Zada Jones dips Beneath the Lasers. I think that's Entrapman.
That's right.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
He yes, seventy four percent from the critic, sixty seven
percent from the audience.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I'll tell you the score.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I would say right now, as a guy who's never
seen it, yep, to the American public, you're over selling
it right now. It's possible.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Eighty percent is kind of my line of going in blind.
You tell me movie's over eighty percent, I'll be like,
I'm good, Okay, what is your what is your blind
line for Rotten Tomatoes been Uh, how do you mean? Well,
Kat said his is eighty percent. If he's gonna go
critic critic, I don't care what critics think really, so
you don't do the aggregate. You just want the I
want to see what the people went to the movie think.
(06:15):
What do you do? Do you do aggregate or do
you do just critics? Or do You'd like for both
to be over eighty percent? But I think that's fair.
If both are over eighty that's like movies in the
world exactly. I don't have that much time.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I'd like to go back to the great Cooper Rieve
saying you should just go in and perform your own opinion.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Damn straight, I'll just stay home and watch Halan Harper.
Have you watched it yet?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I'm two episodes in and I'm in love with it. It's wonderful.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah. While we're recording and I haven't been crushed yet.
I know it's going to crush me. It will crush you.
Uh My nephew has a TV series on movie with
Lily ryan Hart and Mark Ruffalo and himself. It's called
Halan Harper and Kat. You've seen two episodes. I don't
love Lily ryan Hart. Gee, very good. Okay, if you
were to go google all the accolade. She got on
(07:01):
the film festival circuit for this, and I saw her
on the Today Show talking about it. This was like,
this is the movie I need there. This is the
thing I need to do to solidify my career after
being on Riverdale or whatever she was on, and she
is incredible in it. So if you have time, Alan
Harper on movie the limited to eight episode TV series,
By the Way, Heist, which I really like, Yeah, is
(07:24):
got pooped on Here's Brosendan. Critics were sixty Gene Hackman okay.
Critics were sixty seven percent. Moviegoers sixty. Do you know why?
Because everyone was confused because they thought it was the
score same year Marlon Brando, Edward Norton, Robert de Niro,
I don't know. We got Gene Hackman and Sam Rockwell,
and I don't know who was hitting third. I love
(07:45):
Sam Rockwell, maybe Danny DeVito. I can't remember. All right,
there you there, you have it. Uh, there's things Skin
is tracking
Bam, Ben and Skin Show ninety one point one The Eagle.
Thanks for hanging out with us today. Don't forget Friday.
We're at the Chalk Talk Casino and Resort and Durant, Oklahoma.
Join us there. Later in the show, we'll give away
tickets to see Nothing More at the south Side Ballroom.
You've got to be listening for your chance to win
and have the iHeart app because you will definitely be
using that. What are the movies you need to know
(00:21):
about in the month of November. Kat will tell us
here in fifteen minutes, But right now it's time for
this Skin Is Track, another edition of things Skin Is Traffic.
Thank you, Thank you America. I got a lot of
things I want to get to rapid fire. I want
to direct everyone's attention to a friend of ours who
(00:41):
actually is going to be at Rollertown Beer Works. That's
the brewery. Ben and I are partners in Tomorrow Night
Thursday Night for his album listening party, Paul Shalde. But
he did a music video. It came out today. It
was directed by our friends TC and The Machine and
it's got a guest appearance from Christina's boyfriend in it. Oh,
it's an amazing video. It's an amazing video. And how
(01:04):
did you feel about your boyfriend? I thought he was
the star. He was the highlight of a video for sure.
What's he doing in it? I haven't seen it. I
gotta watch it. Where is it? It's on YouTube if
you go to I'm skin Weight on Instagram and it's
on my feed on my stories there's there's links to it.
Or if you just want to go watch it on YouTube,
do YouTube and Eastwood Music Group in Paul's videos right there.
(01:28):
This song is called Lately. But the one thing I
would say about Christina's boyfriend is, if you're a film buff,
it's very much citizen Siroy. So okay. Then, so he's
in it, he's starring in it, he's like a character
in or he's got a cameo in it. How would
you describe it? I would say he is, yeah, the
(01:49):
star in it, oh okay, And he's in about one
twenty fifth of the video. Okay, okay, but it's a
star turn Yeah, I'm much you're my in it?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
You right that way?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Secifically not in it? And real quick. That song is gorgeous.
I love that song. It's a wonderful song and Ben
and I love reasons for you to hang out at
Rollertown Beer Work. So if you want to come hang
out with us and Paul Paul Shalda tomorrow night for
a record listening party. Okay, uh, I somehow missed this
movie and it was on late night. It was not
(02:23):
on a xcess cable because you guys know, I'm always
watching that channel for music documentaries. They're poorly produced. I'm
so glad I don't live with you and you have
the remote control. Your life is frustrated. Can you imagine
me and Ben Land in bed and he wants to
watch I'm like, man, let's watch Boogie Knights again. By
Roadhouse is on. Okay, there's a movie and I remember
(02:46):
it coming out. I don't know why I didn't see it,
because it's in the wheelhouse of me seeing every movie
that comes out. It's got three of the greatest actors
of old time. This has came out in two thousand
and one. My kids weren't born yet. I was going
to every movie. Somehow I missed the two thousand and
one movie The Heist with Marlon Brando, Robert de Niro,
(03:06):
and Edward Norton, and I watched it, so yes, I
did fall asleep at one point thirty because I was like,
how have I never seen this? And I pulled it up.
It's directed by Frank Oz. You guys know who that is,
the great Missus Piggy. He did that incredible movie that
(03:26):
we talked about so much a couple of years about
years ago, in and of itself with that magician. Oh yeah,
remember that Frank Oz directed? That? Is it the score? Oh?
Is it called the score? Just called the score? My bad?
My bad? It's called the score? Yes, screw me see
that again. That's why I haven't seen it two thousand
(03:48):
and one. Marlon Brando ended up dying a few years later.
But those three guys are probably if you, if you
quiz like film critics and filmmakers and go, all right,
who are the fifty best actors of the last fifty years?
I bet all of them would say those three guys. Okay,
Mike Brando is first, the first like real method actor
(04:09):
that became a big star. Everybody knows de Niro and
man Edward Norton's freaking incredible. And I was like, how
did I miss this? And it was really satisfying. It's
a heist kper thing. So you've got intrigue and then
it's a double triple cross movie. And then you have
these three incredible actors all going toe to toe, and
(04:31):
it's so interesting seeing de Niro in two thousand and one.
It's like a quarter of a century ago and he
let's Meet the Parents. Age. Think even before that, what
year did Meet the Parents come out? I was thought
two thousand ish?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Okay, you said this was two thousand and one, right, yeah,
I mean The Parents was two thousand wow, so it's
right around that time.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, he doesn't look old and washed.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, I mean I see you Meet the Parents on
It is crazy how Ben Steeler kind of looks the
same outside of the gray hair. But Robert DeNiro, I
think he's really young. Yeah, can you I've never even
heard of this movie.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
It's incredible, like it's real, and I vaguely remember it
coming out, and I don't know why I skipped it, dude,
I mean it's two years after what.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Oh never mind, I was getting the Rotten Tomatoes score.
But it's a there's another movie called the Score that's
really bad.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
What is the Rotten Tomatoes star Babelfenberg. I'm trying to
Rotten Tomatoes for the score is seventy four percent. Okay,
I mean see, I thought you were talking about Heist,
which came out in two thousand and one. Okay, it's great,
a Gene Hackman movie. Oh, I don't think I've seen
that really good. That's heighst not the highest, which is
nineteen eighty nine. Pierce prosent movie which she dips Catherine
(05:37):
Zada Jones dips Beneath the Lasers. I think that's Entrapman.
That's right.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
He yes, seventy four percent from the critic, sixty seven
percent from the audience.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I'll tell you the score.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I would say right now, as a guy who's never
seen it, yep, to the American public, you're over selling
it right now. It's possible.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Eighty percent is kind of my line of going in blind.
You tell me movie's over eighty percent, I'll be like,
I'm good, Okay, what is your what is your blind
line for Rotten Tomatoes been Uh, how do you mean? Well,
Kat said his is eighty percent. If he's gonna go
critic critic, I don't care what critics think really, so
you don't do the aggregate. You just want the I
want to see what the people went to the movie think.
(06:15):
What do you do? Do you do aggregate or do
you do just critics? Or do You'd like for both
to be over eighty percent? But I think that's fair.
If both are over eighty that's like movies in the
world exactly. I don't have that much time.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I'd like to go back to the great Cooper Rieve
saying you should just go in and perform your own opinion.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Damn straight, I'll just stay home and watch Halan Harper.
Have you watched it yet?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I'm two episodes in and I'm in love with it. It's wonderful.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah. While we're recording and I haven't been crushed yet.
I know it's going to crush me. It will crush you.
Uh My nephew has a TV series on movie with
Lily ryan Hart and Mark Ruffalo and himself. It's called
Halan Harper and Kat. You've seen two episodes. I don't
love Lily ryan Hart. Gee, very good. Okay, if you
were to go google all the accolade. She got on
(07:01):
the film festival circuit for this, and I saw her
on the Today Show talking about it. This was like,
this is the movie I need there. This is the
thing I need to do to solidify my career after
being on Riverdale or whatever she was on, and she
is incredible in it. So if you have time, Alan
Harper on movie the limited to eight episode TV series,
By the Way, Heist, which I really like, Yeah, is
(07:24):
got pooped on Here's Brosendan. Critics were sixty Gene Hackman okay.
Critics were sixty seven percent. Moviegoers sixty. Do you know why?
Because everyone was confused because they thought it was the
score same year Marlon Brando, Edward Norton, Robert de Niro,
I don't know. We got Gene Hackman and Sam Rockwell,
and I don't know who was hitting third. I love
(07:45):
Sam Rockwell, maybe Danny DeVito. I can't remember. All right,
there you there, you have it. Uh, there's things Skin
is tracking
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