May 19, 2025 • 5 mins
In this wildly entertaining episode of The Ben and Skin Show, the unexpected is just another day at the office. From NBA playoff takes, this episode is a rollercoaster of laughs, sports insight, and pure Ben & Skin brilliance.Join hosts Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray as they:
- 🏀 Break down the NBA and NHL Final Fours with a heavy dose of Mavs nostalgia, Luka heartbreak, and a surprising sense of closure thanks to Cooper Flagg.
- 🤯 Debate the wild strategy of Alex Caruso guarding MVP Nikola Jokić—“Why is a tiny guard allowed to physically violate a giant?”
- “He yelled ‘F yeah!’ after he won.” — KT on Scottie Scheffler’s not-so-golf-club-friendly celebration.
- “Nobody on that team knows how to shoot or pass or dribble besides Jokić.” — Skin, losing his mind over Denver’s ball-handling woes.
- “Shout out to Nadia… our best six-year-old listener.” — A heartwarming and hilarious nod to the show’s youngest fan.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Shout out to Nadia. She's probably our best six year
old listener. She gets in the car and she wants
to crank up the Ben and Skin show. I'm sure
she loved that David Geffen segment we did earlier.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
But shout out to Nadia.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
You know a six year old out there in the
world just wanting to hear some Ben and Skin on
the Eagle.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hey, let's give away BFD tickets right quick, shall we?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
The first person using the iHeart app the talkback feature
with their name, their number, their email address and can
tell us the answer.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
We were just talking about it. A guy died.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
He crashed his truck into someone's yard. What was the
cause of death that caused him to crash that truck?
He was running from something. If you can tell us
what it is, be the first person. You're gonna win
those BFD tickets. It's happening Sunday at dose Eki's. We
will be in the house. Chavelle, Marilyn Manson and Moore
do not miss it. BFD coming up this Sunday, But
right now it's time for this.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Now, let's cool around the sports KTD fuck wins as.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
All the sport.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Sports on the weekend is the Stars. We'll get into
them a little bit in the five o'clock hour. I
will say Scotty Scheffer continues to be DFW's most dominant
athlete as he wins his third major in the PGA Championship.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Was it close? Wasn't even close? He yelled, f yeah
after he won.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
The NBA is now down to its final four, just
like the Stars are a part of the final four
in the NHL. The NBA down to its final four.
I can't help but think the Mavericks would have been
if no trades were made. And I'm over it, but
if no trades were made, I do think of the
four teams that are remaining, I do think the Mavericks
would be worthy of being one of those four teams.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I do. I absolutely do.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Now it's an alternate universe because the Mavericks would have
been higher in the standings and the matchups would be
would have been different, and.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
But like in a year where Boston ends up like
they end up and Cleveland goes out like they go out,
and you look at the other teams in the West,
that Maverick team that went to the finals. Certainly, you know,
if they had stayed healthy man front runner.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
I would have dwelled on this forever had Cooper Flag
not happen. Now I have moved on so quick, like
I've it healed me, because honestly, it was like a
boat anchor in my entire life all day, every day.
Everything I saw on social media, invasive thoughts, negative thoughts
just about Luca, about the trade, all that, and I
(02:22):
still think it's the worst trade that's ever happened in
pro sports. But it doesn't matter at this point because
now they've got Cooper Flag. I do want to ask
you this again about the final four teams and of
the Thunder of the Wolves, the Knicks and the Pacers.
There's Maverick Ties obviously, because like you said, KT, those
are the two teams the MAVs went through in the
West the Thunder of the Wolves, so you can look
(02:42):
at through a MAVs lens there. But with the Knicks, obviously,
there's Jalen Brunts in there, there's Casey Smith there with
the Pacers, it's Rick Carlisle.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
There's mav ties on both those.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I'm pulling for the Knicks, you know, I'm like, if
you're gonna pull for one of these four teams. I'm
definitely not gonna pull from a team in the Western Conference.
And I have respect for Rick Carlil and never found
him to be likable, So I'm.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Pulling for the Knicks.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
All those are what I want to ask you about
more than anything is thunder is so Denver and Okase
go to a Game seven and the big change that
happens in that game. I don't think this had been
Maybe this had been happening previously, but I thought it
was just an adjustment. Alex Caruso guards Jokic, and so
(03:28):
you've got a tiny, tiny guard guarding the MVP, and
it caused so many problems, Like they allowed him to
physically violate Jokic because he's a little dude and Jokich
is a big brute. But I'm like, couldn't they have
taken advantage of that more? I mean, I know he's
put up good numbers and everything, but I saw so
(03:48):
many steals and deflections and turnovers and chaos caused by
little Alex Caruso, who's a great defender guarding a giant.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
They could have called more fouls on him. I think
they called it evenly both. The thing that I would
say is that I was watching that game wanting Denver
to win it. The Aaron Gordon story was frickin amazing.
Schaum's goes on TV and says he's out for a
month and then he's out there playing, Like what a story.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, he had, that's a hammy, right.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
He had five rebounds in the first six minutes, Like
I wanted that to happen.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
But man, Jamal.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Murray and Russell Westbrook, they just don't know how to
take care of a basketball and it drives me crazy.
They had eight turnovers and probably the first twelve minutes
and that's not Crusoe fouling.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
And Jamal Murray didn't look like himself either, So.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Anyways, uh, yes, Caruso should have had fouls called on him,
but man, it just drove me crazy watching those guys
turn the damn ball over. I was like, oh my god,
I can't watch it.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Couldn't they just get Kis the ball closer to the
basket where he just turns around and shoots.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
At this tiny person.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Nobody on that team knows how to shoot or pass
or dribble beside Jokich, like literally No one on that
team can pass or dribble except for the guy that
needs the ball on the block.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It drives me nuts.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
All right, there you have it. There's around the sports.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
We will talk Dallas Stars hockey coming up here in
a bit with a Katy Perry spin on it. By
the way, that's coming up at five point thirty. But
coming up next, we've got music news to legendary drummers
get fired. We'll discuss next right here on the Eagle
Shout out to Nadia. She's probably our best six year
old listener. She gets in the car and she wants
to crank up the Ben and Skin show. I'm sure
she loved that David Geffen segment we did earlier.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
But shout out to Nadia.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
You know a six year old out there in the
world just wanting to hear some Ben and Skin on
the Eagle.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hey, let's give away BFD tickets right quick, shall we?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
The first person using the iHeart app the talkback feature
with their name, their number, their email address and can
tell us the answer.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
We were just talking about it. A guy died.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
He crashed his truck into someone's yard. What was the
cause of death that caused him to crash that truck?
He was running from something. If you can tell us
what it is, be the first person. You're gonna win
those BFD tickets. It's happening Sunday at dose Eki's. We
will be in the house. Chavelle, Marilyn Manson and Moore
do not miss it. BFD coming up this Sunday, But
right now it's time for this.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Now, let's cool around the sports KTD fuck wins as.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
All the sport.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Sports on the weekend is the Stars. We'll get into
them a little bit in the five o'clock hour. I
will say Scotty Scheffer continues to be DFW's most dominant
athlete as he wins his third major in the PGA Championship.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Was it close? Wasn't even close? He yelled, f yeah
after he won.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
The NBA is now down to its final four, just
like the Stars are a part of the final four
in the NHL. The NBA down to its final four.
I can't help but think the Mavericks would have been
if no trades were made. And I'm over it, but
if no trades were made, I do think of the
four teams that are remaining, I do think the Mavericks
would be worthy of being one of those four teams.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I do. I absolutely do.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Now it's an alternate universe because the Mavericks would have
been higher in the standings and the matchups would be
would have been different, and.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
But like in a year where Boston ends up like
they end up and Cleveland goes out like they go out,
and you look at the other teams in the West,
that Maverick team that went to the finals. Certainly, you know,
if they had stayed healthy man front runner.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
I would have dwelled on this forever had Cooper Flag
not happen. Now I have moved on so quick, like
I've it healed me, because honestly, it was like a
boat anchor in my entire life all day, every day.
Everything I saw on social media, invasive thoughts, negative thoughts
just about Luca, about the trade, all that, and I
(02:22):
still think it's the worst trade that's ever happened in
pro sports. But it doesn't matter at this point because
now they've got Cooper Flag. I do want to ask
you this again about the final four teams and of
the Thunder of the Wolves, the Knicks and the Pacers.
There's Maverick Ties obviously, because like you said, KT, those
are the two teams the MAVs went through in the
West the Thunder of the Wolves, so you can look
(02:42):
at through a MAVs lens there. But with the Knicks, obviously,
there's Jalen Brunts in there, there's Casey Smith there with
the Pacers, it's Rick Carlisle.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
There's mav ties on both those.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I'm pulling for the Knicks, you know, I'm like, if
you're gonna pull for one of these four teams. I'm
definitely not gonna pull from a team in the Western Conference.
And I have respect for Rick Carlil and never found
him to be likable, So I'm.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Pulling for the Knicks.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
All those are what I want to ask you about
more than anything is thunder is so Denver and Okase
go to a Game seven and the big change that
happens in that game. I don't think this had been
Maybe this had been happening previously, but I thought it
was just an adjustment. Alex Caruso guards Jokic, and so
(03:28):
you've got a tiny, tiny guard guarding the MVP, and
it caused so many problems, Like they allowed him to
physically violate Jokic because he's a little dude and Jokich
is a big brute. But I'm like, couldn't they have
taken advantage of that more? I mean, I know he's
put up good numbers and everything, but I saw so
(03:48):
many steals and deflections and turnovers and chaos caused by
little Alex Caruso, who's a great defender guarding a giant.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
They could have called more fouls on him. I think
they called it evenly both. The thing that I would
say is that I was watching that game wanting Denver
to win it. The Aaron Gordon story was frickin amazing.
Schaum's goes on TV and says he's out for a
month and then he's out there playing, Like what a story.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, he had, that's a hammy, right.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
He had five rebounds in the first six minutes, Like
I wanted that to happen.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
But man, Jamal.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Murray and Russell Westbrook, they just don't know how to
take care of a basketball and it drives me crazy.
They had eight turnovers and probably the first twelve minutes
and that's not Crusoe fouling.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
And Jamal Murray didn't look like himself either, So.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Anyways, uh, yes, Caruso should have had fouls called on him,
but man, it just drove me crazy watching those guys
turn the damn ball over. I was like, oh my god,
I can't watch it.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Couldn't they just get Kis the ball closer to the
basket where he just turns around and shoots.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
At this tiny person.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Nobody on that team knows how to shoot or pass
or dribble beside Jokich, like literally No one on that
team can pass or dribble except for the guy that
needs the ball on the block.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It drives me nuts.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
All right, there you have it. There's around the sports.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
We will talk Dallas Stars hockey coming up here in
a bit with a Katy Perry spin on it. By
the way, that's coming up at five point thirty. But
coming up next, we've got music news to legendary drummers
get fired. We'll discuss next right here on the Eagle
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