July 21, 2025 • 7 mins
"Are the Cowboys heading into the season with their weakest roster in years?"That’s the burning question kicking off this electric episode of The Ben and Skin Show, where hosts Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray dive headfirst into a whirlwind of football skepticism, AI absurdity, and Texas-sized food debates.From Ben’s brutally honest Cowboys breakdown—highlighting draft pick doubts, defensive line woes, and a running back room ranked dead last—to KT’s hilarious rant about AI-generated concert posters that turned Krystina into snowboarder Shaun White and misgendered half the crew, this episode is packed with laughs, hot takes, and unexpected turns.Cowboys fans, beware: optimism is in short supply. Ben’s deep dive into the team’s offseason moves, questionable draft picks like Mazi Smith and Tyler Guyton, and the lack of a dominant defensive tackle will leave you wondering if shootouts are the only path to victory this year.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm not telling out all those raiders unless I get paid.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I heard when with after with, I'll show you're gone
rubing it be except we're supposed to be pursuing it
to hold out Shaw Shank through the sewer.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Dude, Now what chilling?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I think he will? Yeah, we're doing it through your
plotting on the dot. Got a habit for my house
or go stat is how we're starting to get credit.
Shows that enough multiply like a rabbit, tune in so out.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Creak it up, beat the habit.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I'm to hang out with.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
My friend rocking on the radio, my modoy skinning his kind.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Talking on the radio.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
It's time to do this sponsigin all we know KT
Christine up All on my radio.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Oh yeah, it's happy Monday, everybody.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
It's the world famous Ben and Skin Show ninety seven
point one The Eagle. I'm Ben Rogers, joined by Jeff
skin Wade, Kevin k T Turner, Christina Kray, little Baby
Cornbread Ray from Oatmeal Pizza. We've got so much to
get into it's gonna be a great show, in particular
in the five o'clock hour, what is Texas's most iconic food?
Gonna have that discussion at five o'clock. If you'd like
to weigh in on that, let us know. On social media, Katie,
(01:24):
you had a post that went up today that was
pretty fascinating looking that.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
It was a I've been in skin concert show.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
Yeah, they're learning a lot about us apparently, and couding
how to not put the exact logo of our name
underneath the person on the image, Like I had asked, Ay,
i's so great, they need to start doing what I say.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Why did they make Christina look like snowboarder Sean White?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
AI thinks I'm a man? Yeah some reason, which yeah, fair, No,
it's not. I looked at that. I was like, when
did we add that guy to the show? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (01:55):
At ninety seven to one The Eagle on Instagram and
TikTok at the Eagle Alice on Twitter acts right, Well,
if you want to weigh in on what is Texas
most iconic food, maybe do it there.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Oh, I'd say call in. We don't.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
We don't really take phone calls. We don't have the
ability to take phone calls. I don't think dude, call star,
call call a lone star. Yeah, talk to those guys.
Tell jeffk We've got a weekly weekday update. Crazy robbery
that happened in Grapevine. We will talk some Cowboys football
at five thirty. Maybe a big problem with their draft.
And that brings me to where I want to go
this weekend for the first time of this for this
(02:29):
upcoming season, I started digging in thinking about what we're
going to do this year.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Oh tell you some podcasts.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Arted thinking about the draft, thinking about how I felt
after last year, just kind of looking at putting a
bow on the off season because we're getting ready to
the Cowboys are getting ready to go to camp.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Did you get an Oxnard mood?
Speaker 5 (02:46):
I kind of This is around that time where we
would start to get into a mood to go to Oxnard.
We're not going to Oxnard, but yeah, so I started
thinking about that, and usually this time of year is
when I'm most optimistic because I start thinking every draft
picked is going to be great, every free agent is
going to be great, and everybody's in the best shape
(03:07):
of their life.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Look at Shirtless Dak he shredded. Yeah, going into year ten.
This is his time. Now, it's a good time for
a quarterback. Year ten. Dude, he's seen it all.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
I think, for the first time in a long time,
I'm going into this Cowboys season with the least amount
of optimism I've had maybe ever.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Oh really?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
What? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
And usually I go through this cycle.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
And I told you I talked to a former player
that was talking getting me hyped up about Mozzie Smith.
I've read and heard a ton about Mozzie Smith since then,
and none of it is good. And I'm like, man,
maybe that was just fluff that he was giving me
optimistic for his friend. But why don't we just get
halfway through camp and then make a Mazzie Smith decision?
I think, Uh, I think one of the biggest problems
(03:51):
is that they're these first round picks. You can't miss
on these first round picks, and Mazzie Smith and Tyler
Gotton might absolutely be missus. And if you look at
what the Cowboys did this offseason, they needed help at
the running back position because they lost their best running
back and they low bald him and they could have
had him for really cheap, but they let him go.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
That was a huge mistake in my opinion.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Most NFL experts around the league, when they power rank
the running back rooms in the NFL have the Cowboys
as the worst. Yeah, sure, but man, Dak is so
good he doesn't need a running game if he can
even stay healthy, and he can't run. His hamstring fell
off his body, so part of his charm. I think
I've been blinded by the George Pickens edition, because that
(04:35):
is huge. That's great to have a number two receiver
that's that good. It makes your wide receiver room incredible.
But I started thinking, man, if Javonte Williams and Miles
Sanders and Jaden Blue can't carry the ball or your
offensive line can't block, I do obviously.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I do like the draft pick. I think Tyler Booker
is going to be great.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
That's awesome, But you still have Tyler Geyton out there,
and I don't know what Terrence Steele is going to be,
so I don't think you're gonna be able to run
the ball. But that's not even the biggest concern for me.
The biggest concern is you still don't have defensive You
still don't have a big, giant defensive tackle. You got
(05:14):
Osa to re sign. That's great, but he's kind of undersize.
Mazie is not very good. So let's see.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Man, your three is always a big year, and.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
I think they're gonna be good at like getting after
the quarterback, But then what are they at linebacker? And
they've got you know, Overshown is gonna be out for
a lot, Trayvon Diggs is gonna be out for a lot.
He's I don't I don't know if what is gonna
happen with Treyvon Diggs. They're so weak at corner Diggs
may ever play another snap for the Cowboys. They're weak
at linebacker, they're weak in the middle of their defensive
(05:46):
line kind of.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
And so I'm like, they're.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Gonna have to score a lot of points and they're
not gonna be able to run the ball. So are
they just gonna pass past pass, past pass past pass
and have shootouts every week carried out?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Maybe it's fun.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
There's been a lot of talk about the running back
and I do want to throw a flag on that,
not on you, on anyone who's talking about this stuff,
because last year, going into the year, it was Ezekiel
Elliott and Rico Dawdle, and no one thought Rico Dawdle
was good besides me, uh and the Cowboys didn't think
he was good until Week twelve.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I was an Anti Rico Dwdell is her Anti Rio.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
I don't know one thought he was good though, No
repounded the table saying get Zeke off the field.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Maybe you were, I was.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
I thought Zeke wouldn't get a carry in the first half. Ever,
I remember man like seven or eight years past keeping
score of takes. Yeah, but this running back room is way.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Better than it was last year, and just alone it
already is. They were dead set on giving Zeke the ball.
That's truest year Europe never do that.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
They can bring that and if it doesn't go well,
they can bring Zeke in. I don't think he sign.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I don't think.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
But they have two other teams Zeke's Javonte Williams and
Miles Sanders are other teams.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Gave up on those guys entirely like they're washed. But
they're younger. They're younger than I'm, just like I'm.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Their defense is gonna be so bad, it's gonna be
pretty good that I think now going to the season,
I'm actually not optimistic. Hopefully that changed. Hopefully I can
ramp up and get ready, but hopefully you got maybe
you got great news for me coming up at five
thirty and Psting the Cowboys twelve and five this year.
All right, skin, where are you gonna take us next?
All Right, it's the forty year anniversary of something that
has me feeling very nostalgic, and we'll talk about it
(07:23):
next
I'm not telling out all those raiders unless I get paid.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I heard when with after with, I'll show you're gone
rubing it be except we're supposed to be pursuing it
to hold out Shaw Shank through the sewer.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Dude, Now what chilling?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I think he will? Yeah, we're doing it through your
plotting on the dot. Got a habit for my house
or go stat is how we're starting to get credit.
Shows that enough multiply like a rabbit, tune in so out.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Creak it up, beat the habit.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I'm to hang out with.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
My friend rocking on the radio, my modoy skinning his kind.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Talking on the radio.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
It's time to do this sponsigin all we know KT
Christine up All on my radio.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Oh yeah, it's happy Monday, everybody.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
It's the world famous Ben and Skin Show ninety seven
point one The Eagle. I'm Ben Rogers, joined by Jeff
skin Wade, Kevin k T Turner, Christina Kray, little Baby
Cornbread Ray from Oatmeal Pizza. We've got so much to
get into it's gonna be a great show, in particular
in the five o'clock hour, what is Texas's most iconic food?
Gonna have that discussion at five o'clock. If you'd like
to weigh in on that, let us know. On social media, Katie,
(01:24):
you had a post that went up today that was
pretty fascinating looking that.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
It was a I've been in skin concert show.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
Yeah, they're learning a lot about us apparently, and couding
how to not put the exact logo of our name
underneath the person on the image, Like I had asked, Ay,
i's so great, they need to start doing what I say.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Why did they make Christina look like snowboarder Sean White?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
AI thinks I'm a man? Yeah some reason, which yeah, fair, No,
it's not. I looked at that. I was like, when
did we add that guy to the show? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (01:55):
At ninety seven to one The Eagle on Instagram and
TikTok at the Eagle Alice on Twitter acts right, Well,
if you want to weigh in on what is Texas
most iconic food, maybe do it there.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Oh, I'd say call in. We don't.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
We don't really take phone calls. We don't have the
ability to take phone calls. I don't think dude, call star,
call call a lone star. Yeah, talk to those guys.
Tell jeffk We've got a weekly weekday update. Crazy robbery
that happened in Grapevine. We will talk some Cowboys football
at five thirty. Maybe a big problem with their draft.
And that brings me to where I want to go
this weekend for the first time of this for this
(02:29):
upcoming season, I started digging in thinking about what we're
going to do this year.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Oh tell you some podcasts.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Arted thinking about the draft, thinking about how I felt
after last year, just kind of looking at putting a
bow on the off season because we're getting ready to
the Cowboys are getting ready to go to camp.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Did you get an Oxnard mood?
Speaker 5 (02:46):
I kind of This is around that time where we
would start to get into a mood to go to Oxnard.
We're not going to Oxnard, but yeah, so I started
thinking about that, and usually this time of year is
when I'm most optimistic because I start thinking every draft
picked is going to be great, every free agent is
going to be great, and everybody's in the best shape
(03:07):
of their life.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Look at Shirtless Dak he shredded. Yeah, going into year ten.
This is his time. Now, it's a good time for
a quarterback. Year ten. Dude, he's seen it all.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
I think, for the first time in a long time,
I'm going into this Cowboys season with the least amount
of optimism I've had maybe ever.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Oh really?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
What? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
And usually I go through this cycle.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
And I told you I talked to a former player
that was talking getting me hyped up about Mozzie Smith.
I've read and heard a ton about Mozzie Smith since then,
and none of it is good. And I'm like, man,
maybe that was just fluff that he was giving me
optimistic for his friend. But why don't we just get
halfway through camp and then make a Mazzie Smith decision?
I think, Uh, I think one of the biggest problems
(03:51):
is that they're these first round picks. You can't miss
on these first round picks, and Mazzie Smith and Tyler
Gotton might absolutely be missus. And if you look at
what the Cowboys did this offseason, they needed help at
the running back position because they lost their best running
back and they low bald him and they could have
had him for really cheap, but they let him go.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
That was a huge mistake in my opinion.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Most NFL experts around the league, when they power rank
the running back rooms in the NFL have the Cowboys
as the worst. Yeah, sure, but man, Dak is so
good he doesn't need a running game if he can
even stay healthy, and he can't run. His hamstring fell
off his body, so part of his charm. I think
I've been blinded by the George Pickens edition, because that
(04:35):
is huge. That's great to have a number two receiver
that's that good. It makes your wide receiver room incredible.
But I started thinking, man, if Javonte Williams and Miles
Sanders and Jaden Blue can't carry the ball or your
offensive line can't block, I do obviously.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I do like the draft pick. I think Tyler Booker
is going to be great.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
That's awesome, But you still have Tyler Geyton out there,
and I don't know what Terrence Steele is going to be,
so I don't think you're gonna be able to run
the ball. But that's not even the biggest concern for me.
The biggest concern is you still don't have defensive You
still don't have a big, giant defensive tackle. You got
(05:14):
Osa to re sign. That's great, but he's kind of undersize.
Mazie is not very good. So let's see.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Man, your three is always a big year, and.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
I think they're gonna be good at like getting after
the quarterback, But then what are they at linebacker? And
they've got you know, Overshown is gonna be out for
a lot, Trayvon Diggs is gonna be out for a lot.
He's I don't I don't know if what is gonna
happen with Treyvon Diggs. They're so weak at corner Diggs
may ever play another snap for the Cowboys. They're weak
at linebacker, they're weak in the middle of their defensive
(05:46):
line kind of.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
And so I'm like, they're.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Gonna have to score a lot of points and they're
not gonna be able to run the ball. So are
they just gonna pass past pass, past pass past pass
and have shootouts every week carried out?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Maybe it's fun.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
There's been a lot of talk about the running back
and I do want to throw a flag on that,
not on you, on anyone who's talking about this stuff,
because last year, going into the year, it was Ezekiel
Elliott and Rico Dawdle, and no one thought Rico Dawdle
was good besides me, uh and the Cowboys didn't think
he was good until Week twelve.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I was an Anti Rico Dwdell is her Anti Rio.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
I don't know one thought he was good though, No
repounded the table saying get Zeke off the field.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Maybe you were, I was.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
I thought Zeke wouldn't get a carry in the first half. Ever,
I remember man like seven or eight years past keeping
score of takes. Yeah, but this running back room is way.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Better than it was last year, and just alone it
already is. They were dead set on giving Zeke the ball.
That's truest year Europe never do that.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
They can bring that and if it doesn't go well,
they can bring Zeke in. I don't think he sign.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I don't think.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
But they have two other teams Zeke's Javonte Williams and
Miles Sanders are other teams.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Gave up on those guys entirely like they're washed. But
they're younger. They're younger than I'm, just like I'm.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Their defense is gonna be so bad, it's gonna be
pretty good that I think now going to the season,
I'm actually not optimistic. Hopefully that changed. Hopefully I can
ramp up and get ready, but hopefully you got maybe
you got great news for me coming up at five
thirty and Psting the Cowboys twelve and five this year.
All right, skin, where are you gonna take us next?
All Right, it's the forty year anniversary of something that
has me feeling very nostalgic, and we'll talk about it
(07:23):
next
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