December 9, 2025 • 8 mins
“Is it ever worth playing through the pain?” That’s the question Ben Rogers wrestles with after revealing his latest basketball injury—a torn meniscus on both sides of his knee. From the frustrating month-long battle to schedule an MRI (complete with epic hold music) to his doctor’s surprising advice—“Just play on it”—Ben takes us inside the struggle of aging athletes who refuse to hang it up.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nice by you have here.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
All right when after with I show, you're gone ruling
it gigxcept we're similar for me pursuing it. Honold out
shaw shame to the sewer. Dude, Now what chilling at
the Eagle? Yeah, we're doing it. Thring your clock on
the dot. Gotta habit for my house or go st
is how we're starting, kid. Craddit shows that enough multiply
(00:29):
like a rabbit, tune in, zone out, crank it up,
beat the habit.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I won't hang out with my friends rocking on the radio.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
My hole on boy Skin.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Is talking on the radio. It's time to to this SPONSI.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
All it here we go kat sting up it.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
All up on our radio.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Ah, yes, hello and welcome. That'd be Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
This is the world famous Ben and Skin Show ninety
seven point one The Eagle, Ben Rogers, Jeff skin Wade,
Kevin K. T. Turner and Christina Ka Ray a little
baby corn bread Ray. All hands on deck, ready to
go today. It's gonna be a great show. And I
got to start by sharing with you maybe some poor
decision making of my own. And it has to do
with health and when it comes to dudes and their health.
(01:22):
I think guys are reluctant to go to doctors and
stuff like that, and I'm going to.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Tell you exactly what's going on.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
So about a month ago, I hurt my knee playing basketball,
and I'm probably to the age where I should stop
playing basketball. But I was wearing brand new shoes, I
was playing on a badass court, and my front ball
of my left foot caught on the court a little
bit while I was trying to cut latterly to the
left and I kind of felt a little pop in
(01:48):
my knee.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I immediately knew I had a knee injury.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Now I've had meniscus surgery on my right knee before,
and you know, I immediately thought, okay, this is probably
a menisco. I don't think I blew my knee out.
I kept trying to play, and I was like, okay,
now I'm playing on one leg. This is a terrible decision.
So at that point moving forward, I was like, all right,
I need to go get an MRI and see what
the situation is. So I stopped playing basketball. Haven't played
(02:14):
for a minute, and I was like, honey, will you
set up an MRI for me? And my wife started
trying to do that, and it was like a month
later and she still hadn't been able to set up
an MRI. It happens, and I have a good job,
I have insurance, I have benefits, but it was a beating,
like it was so hard to set up an MRI.
(02:34):
At one point, the MRI company called me, and I
spent so much time on hold dealing with this MRI company.
I knew they're like, I knew their hold music. I
had a badass song when you're on hold, and I'm like,
and I still couldn't get it whatever. I couldn't get
my insurance to pay for it or something. At one
point I talked to the MRI company. I was like,
is this my insurance and They're like, no, this is
on our end. I'm like, oh my, oh great god,
(02:57):
this sucks. So finally I went to do an MRI.
I just had to cash pay. I'm like, what I
have to get this MRI. I don't even know you
going to try to get it covered by my insurance.
So six hundred and twenty five dollars for me to go. Now,
keep in mind this was I play on Sundays, so
last Sunday and my doctor is one of my best friends,
and he just left to go to the work for
(03:19):
the Denver Broncos to be one of their sports doctors
and whatnot. And so he used to play in my
Sunday game and so he you know, anyways, we know
each other really well. And so I was at back
out on the court last Sunday trying to play without
an MRI, just thinking, yeah, I think it's good, and
I'm texting him from the court, going is this a
good decision?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Is the game going on while you're texting him?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:43):
And there holding your phone kind of stay in front
of your man in text.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I wouldn't try to stand in front of him, And so.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
I decided to not try to play last week, and
so I went and got the MRI. Now last night
he called me with the results skin and I went
to an last night and I'm walking in and he
had looked at my MRI which I got yesterday morning,
and he's like, Hey, here's the deal.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Uh, you're old, and a lot of.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Old dudes like us, when they're out on the basketball court,
they're going to have miniscus tears. So you definitely have
a torn meniscus and it's on both sides of your knee.
He goes, but I can't tell if it's recent, but
so it could have been just there for a long time.
And he goes, if you go out on a court,
most guys are going to have some knee issues and stuff.
(04:32):
And he's and so I was like, well, you had
mentioned if I have to have miniscus surgery that I'll
be out for a month. He goes, yeah, I would
not recommend surgery for this.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Ah, just let it heal.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
I was like, I will never heal. Oh, just play,
just play, play with it. He's like, go ahead and
play with a torn meniscus on both sides. And he
was like, you know, uh, it's basically like your meniscus
is like a breake pad. It's just in there between
the knee and it's just you know, eventually your brakes
get worn out anyway, So most guys don't have much
meniscus these days if they've been playing as long as
(05:05):
we've been playing. And so basically he's saying, you don't
have to get surgery. I wouldn't recommend that right now. Honestly,
I would just get out there and see how it does.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Okay, Yeah, I think you gotta do this, man, I
think you got to take your doctor's advice.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Work for work.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
You should not be in a scenario where you later
describe it as moving laterally.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, just don't move laterally in the game, right, I'm
just gonna sag so far off.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I don't ever have to go laterally.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
And I saw this, and I'm like, man, it's just
so hard to be an athlete as you get older,
or do anything athletic. And then I saw that Philip
Rivers is going back to the Colts. He's forty four
and he's going to their practice squad. Obviously they had
their quarterback Tour's achilles, right.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Yeah, I think you broke his leg too, the whole thing. God, yeah,
I think they're just gonna have to amputate it.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
And they have a good season going, so they're like,
let's get this forty four year old. And I'm like, dude,
that's Romo's age. Romo's forty five. Can you imagine Romo
at this point he lost his job nine years ago.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Can make it worse for him too. They'll think about this.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Ben.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
They were the one seed about three weeks ago.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Then they lost a couple games, and then the number
of five pick in the draft, Anthony Richardson that they
took in twenty twenty three. He is not available to
come be the backup for the guy that got hurt
because he got hurt and a freak injury in the
locker room that.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
No one really knows what happened.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Was Trayvon Diggs a part of it?
Speaker 3 (06:27):
So he's been like I are, he can't play.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
So that's why they had to make a phone call
to forty four year old Philip Rivers, who is older
than twelve NFL head coaches.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
In fact, one of his I think one of his
twelve kids is old enough to be in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, d seriously though, like you're probably not wrong. Yeah,
it's amazing.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
So, yeah, you're basically the Phil Rivers of sports, right,
that's good man? You want that he's gonna Yeah, he
might be be a Hall of Famer one day.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Why wouldn't Phil Rivers be the Phil Rivers of sports?
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Well, Ben gets a crack at it, yep, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you get to go do it right, right, because every
time you play you can kind of like you can
like once you're done to like, hey I did it.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I toughed it out. Yeah, like justin Herbert. Yeah, Herbert
did less.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Yeah, you can go miss all your receivers by fifteen
yards every brow we learned. Yea God, we'll get into
that at five o'clock when we caused the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
The Cowboys are alive because of that weird game. What
a strange game, and what a weird interception that ended
on as the as the Eagles are just about to score.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
Yeah, both teams wanted to lose that game, but the
Eagles just wanted it more.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Hurts was like, man, I bet I have four picks
in me we got to ot. I bet I could
squeeze another interception in here.
Speaker 6 (07:41):
You had two turnovers on one play through an interception
and then he recovered the fumble the Chargers. And by
the way, I was watching the Monsters Inc. Broadcast at
the time and they couldn't even track it. It was funny,
the definition of drunken football, especially that play right there.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
It really was.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Me and Ben were at a big time political fundraiser
last night, so we missed the game. But by the
time I got home and turned it on, there was
five minutes left and I'm looking at the score and
then I see them flash up the turnovers, and I
was like, I feel so bad for Cowboy fans that
have been watching this entire game, living and dying on
every horrible play by the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Oh my god, Well we were off and running. Just
no Sunday. I might have a horrific knee injury, and
I'll have an update on that on Monday show where
you going to take us next? And things Skin is
tracking
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Well, I'm going to see how into the Christmas spirit
you guys are
Nice by you have here.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
All right when after with I show, you're gone ruling
it gigxcept we're similar for me pursuing it. Honold out
shaw shame to the sewer. Dude, Now what chilling at
the Eagle? Yeah, we're doing it. Thring your clock on
the dot. Gotta habit for my house or go st
is how we're starting, kid. Craddit shows that enough multiply
(00:29):
like a rabbit, tune in, zone out, crank it up,
beat the habit.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I won't hang out with my friends rocking on the radio.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
My hole on boy Skin.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Is talking on the radio. It's time to to this SPONSI.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
All it here we go kat sting up it.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
All up on our radio.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Ah, yes, hello and welcome. That'd be Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
This is the world famous Ben and Skin Show ninety
seven point one The Eagle, Ben Rogers, Jeff skin Wade,
Kevin K. T. Turner and Christina Ka Ray a little
baby corn bread Ray. All hands on deck, ready to
go today. It's gonna be a great show. And I
got to start by sharing with you maybe some poor
decision making of my own. And it has to do
with health and when it comes to dudes and their health.
(01:22):
I think guys are reluctant to go to doctors and
stuff like that, and I'm going to.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Tell you exactly what's going on.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
So about a month ago, I hurt my knee playing basketball,
and I'm probably to the age where I should stop
playing basketball. But I was wearing brand new shoes, I
was playing on a badass court, and my front ball
of my left foot caught on the court a little
bit while I was trying to cut latterly to the
left and I kind of felt a little pop in
(01:48):
my knee.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I immediately knew I had a knee injury.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Now I've had meniscus surgery on my right knee before,
and you know, I immediately thought, okay, this is probably
a menisco. I don't think I blew my knee out.
I kept trying to play, and I was like, okay,
now I'm playing on one leg. This is a terrible decision.
So at that point moving forward, I was like, all right,
I need to go get an MRI and see what
the situation is. So I stopped playing basketball. Haven't played
(02:14):
for a minute, and I was like, honey, will you
set up an MRI for me? And my wife started
trying to do that, and it was like a month
later and she still hadn't been able to set up
an MRI. It happens, and I have a good job,
I have insurance, I have benefits, but it was a beating,
like it was so hard to set up an MRI.
(02:34):
At one point, the MRI company called me, and I
spent so much time on hold dealing with this MRI company.
I knew they're like, I knew their hold music. I
had a badass song when you're on hold, and I'm like,
and I still couldn't get it whatever. I couldn't get
my insurance to pay for it or something. At one
point I talked to the MRI company. I was like,
is this my insurance and They're like, no, this is
on our end. I'm like, oh my, oh great god,
(02:57):
this sucks. So finally I went to do an MRI.
I just had to cash pay. I'm like, what I
have to get this MRI. I don't even know you
going to try to get it covered by my insurance.
So six hundred and twenty five dollars for me to go. Now,
keep in mind this was I play on Sundays, so
last Sunday and my doctor is one of my best friends,
and he just left to go to the work for
(03:19):
the Denver Broncos to be one of their sports doctors
and whatnot. And so he used to play in my
Sunday game and so he you know, anyways, we know
each other really well. And so I was at back
out on the court last Sunday trying to play without
an MRI, just thinking, yeah, I think it's good, and
I'm texting him from the court, going is this a
good decision?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Is the game going on while you're texting him?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:43):
And there holding your phone kind of stay in front
of your man in text.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I wouldn't try to stand in front of him, And so.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
I decided to not try to play last week, and
so I went and got the MRI. Now last night
he called me with the results skin and I went
to an last night and I'm walking in and he
had looked at my MRI which I got yesterday morning,
and he's like, Hey, here's the deal.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Uh, you're old, and a lot of.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Old dudes like us, when they're out on the basketball court,
they're going to have miniscus tears. So you definitely have
a torn meniscus and it's on both sides of your knee.
He goes, but I can't tell if it's recent, but
so it could have been just there for a long time.
And he goes, if you go out on a court,
most guys are going to have some knee issues and stuff.
(04:32):
And he's and so I was like, well, you had
mentioned if I have to have miniscus surgery that I'll
be out for a month. He goes, yeah, I would
not recommend surgery for this.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Ah, just let it heal.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
I was like, I will never heal. Oh, just play,
just play, play with it. He's like, go ahead and
play with a torn meniscus on both sides. And he
was like, you know, uh, it's basically like your meniscus
is like a breake pad. It's just in there between
the knee and it's just you know, eventually your brakes
get worn out anyway, So most guys don't have much
meniscus these days if they've been playing as long as
(05:05):
we've been playing. And so basically he's saying, you don't
have to get surgery. I wouldn't recommend that right now. Honestly,
I would just get out there and see how it does.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Okay, Yeah, I think you gotta do this, man, I
think you got to take your doctor's advice.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Work for work.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
You should not be in a scenario where you later
describe it as moving laterally.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, just don't move laterally in the game, right, I'm
just gonna sag so far off.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I don't ever have to go laterally.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
And I saw this, and I'm like, man, it's just
so hard to be an athlete as you get older,
or do anything athletic. And then I saw that Philip
Rivers is going back to the Colts. He's forty four
and he's going to their practice squad. Obviously they had
their quarterback Tour's achilles, right.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Yeah, I think you broke his leg too, the whole thing. God, yeah,
I think they're just gonna have to amputate it.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
And they have a good season going, so they're like,
let's get this forty four year old. And I'm like, dude,
that's Romo's age. Romo's forty five. Can you imagine Romo
at this point he lost his job nine years ago.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Can make it worse for him too. They'll think about this.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Ben.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
They were the one seed about three weeks ago.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Then they lost a couple games, and then the number
of five pick in the draft, Anthony Richardson that they
took in twenty twenty three. He is not available to
come be the backup for the guy that got hurt
because he got hurt and a freak injury in the
locker room that.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
No one really knows what happened.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Was Trayvon Diggs a part of it?
Speaker 3 (06:27):
So he's been like I are, he can't play.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
So that's why they had to make a phone call
to forty four year old Philip Rivers, who is older
than twelve NFL head coaches.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
In fact, one of his I think one of his
twelve kids is old enough to be in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, d seriously though, like you're probably not wrong. Yeah,
it's amazing.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
So, yeah, you're basically the Phil Rivers of sports, right,
that's good man? You want that he's gonna Yeah, he
might be be a Hall of Famer one day.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Why wouldn't Phil Rivers be the Phil Rivers of sports?
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Well, Ben gets a crack at it, yep, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you get to go do it right, right, because every
time you play you can kind of like you can
like once you're done to like, hey I did it.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I toughed it out. Yeah, like justin Herbert. Yeah, Herbert
did less.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Yeah, you can go miss all your receivers by fifteen
yards every brow we learned. Yea God, we'll get into
that at five o'clock when we caused the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
The Cowboys are alive because of that weird game. What
a strange game, and what a weird interception that ended
on as the as the Eagles are just about to score.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
Yeah, both teams wanted to lose that game, but the
Eagles just wanted it more.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Hurts was like, man, I bet I have four picks
in me we got to ot. I bet I could
squeeze another interception in here.
Speaker 6 (07:41):
You had two turnovers on one play through an interception
and then he recovered the fumble the Chargers. And by
the way, I was watching the Monsters Inc. Broadcast at
the time and they couldn't even track it. It was funny,
the definition of drunken football, especially that play right there.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
It really was.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Me and Ben were at a big time political fundraiser
last night, so we missed the game. But by the
time I got home and turned it on, there was
five minutes left and I'm looking at the score and
then I see them flash up the turnovers, and I
was like, I feel so bad for Cowboy fans that
have been watching this entire game, living and dying on
every horrible play by the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Oh my god, Well we were off and running. Just
no Sunday. I might have a horrific knee injury, and
I'll have an update on that on Monday show where
you going to take us next? And things Skin is
tracking
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Well, I'm going to see how into the Christmas spirit
you guys are
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