November 21, 2025 • 6 mins
“Is it irrational to believe the Cowboys can take down the defending Super Bowl champs?” That’s the question Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray wrestle with in this high-energy episode of The Ben and Skin Show.The crew dives headfirst into the roller-coaster emotions of Cowboys fandom—how we went from calling for a tank job to feeling unstoppable momentum. Hear the passionate debate about Dak Prescott chasing Tony Romo’s all-time passing record, Jerry Jones’ biggest regrets, and why this Eagles matchup might be the most “gettable” game of the season.You’ll laugh out loud at the funniest moments, including Ben’s “bipolar roller coaster” confession and the crew kicking the front office “in the coconuts” before praising their recent blockbuster trades. Plus, don’t miss the inside scoop on Quinnen Williams’ mic’d-up magic and Krystina’s bold prediction for a 33–28 Cowboys win.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Cowboy Surprise. How are you feeling about the game, Sunday, Ben.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Man, I feel so good about it, and I can't
believe it. I am such a bipolar roller coaster of
a human. Earlier in the year, I was already calling
for the Cowboys to tank. I thought they ruined their
season by trading Micah Parsons on the eve of launching
this thing. I thought they were cooked. Yet look now
(00:41):
and they're not. And it's irrational to think that that
team that had the worst defense in football, the Dallas Cowboys,
could go beat the defending Super Bowl champs, who are
eight and two. But it just feels like the Cowboys
have all this incredible momentum. The Quinn Williams trade is incredible.
The George Pickens is incredible. We always kick this front
(01:02):
office in the in the coconuts, but they have made
some great deals. I feel shockingly confident going into this game.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I do too.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
A fun note about this game is that Dak with
one hundred and sixty yards, will pass Tony Romo for
the all time leading passing yards for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So that's kind of crazy to think about. That kind
of makes you feel old.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Actually, yeah, he gets a lot of the same hate
that that Romo used to get.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Their careers are identical.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It's crazy, yeah, and it's like, okay, both exceptional at
what they do, putting up great numbers, a lot of heroics.
Never really had the supporting cast around him to quite
get it done on both sides of the ball. And
you know, Jerry said, is one of his biggest regrets
ever was you know, not getting you know, Tony Romo
those teams to the Super Bowl. I hope he doesn't
have that same regret about dak Now, they got to
(01:53):
get hot, they got to string a bunch of wins together.
But now would be the perfect time to get hot
and string some wins together. They're heading into the postseason,
so it's possible. But if they lose this game, it's
gonna crush my soul.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, I mean, realistically, they need to go two and
one in the next three games, which is Eagles, Chiefs, Lions,
but two of those are at home. So this is
the one to me of all three of those games.
Even though Philadelphia has a much better record than these
other teams, and Philadelphia's also beat Detroit like last week,
(02:31):
to me, like this is kind of the game that
is more gettable than any of these games. A. The
division games also trick things up. When you play a
team twice a year, you know them better. You're just
like those games tend to be closer. So I think
that one's the one that's most important. I have no
idea what to think about the Chiefs, and we'll get
these fuck they're five and five and they're not playing well,
and they're three and a half point favorites against the
(02:53):
eight and two Colts. It is hard for you to
imagine a Daniel Jones quarterback team going and like beating
the Chiefs. But the Chiefs might be and who knows,
Like that is such a who knows type thing. And
Detroit's got weird stuff going on too. I still think
Detroit's really good. The head coach, Dan Campbell's like, I'll
call plays, and he took over play calling duties when
they played Washington and they put up forty points and
(03:14):
everyone's like, well look at them going now, And then
they played the Eagles last week and couldn't get over
ten points. Like the lines are not, Like no one's
a world beater, honestly, Like the Bills lost to Houston
last night it's a.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Coin flip league.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
It truly, it truly is. And I do think the
Eagles are better than us. So we've seen this a
million times over the years. Tends to kind of even
out a little bit in the division. So this is
a game I think they can win. And if you
get ahead, you gotta get ahead. Cowboys are not a
play from behind team. They can't do that if the
Eagles can just sit there with the lead and continue
(03:48):
to run for whatever reason. And this is a big
part of why the Cowboys dominated the Raiders the other
night is because the Cowboys knew they were gonna throw
it on every play. It got to that point, you know,
there was no guessing at all, and that's the easiest
thing for them for any other team. So I think
the Cowboys are gonna sneak one out here on Sunday.
(04:11):
I think it's gonna be really close and really fun.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I don't know if you guys saw this, but Quinn
Williams was micd up during the game the Dallas Cowboys
started putting in some of that audio out I didn't
see that. It's awesome, Like he's a lovable guy, like
he is a superstar. He's got a huge personality. He
loves his teammates. He was encouraging Donovan Azeraku. He's like, hey,
he goes, go get him. You got the speed to
(04:35):
go get him. And he's like sitting there talking to
Kenny Clark, Hey, when you did this, I did this?
And you know they're sitting there talking about scouting the
other team during the game. He's talked about Dak Prescott,
how he's the best leader he's ever been around. This
dude has a massive and magical personality and is one
of the best defensive players in the league. Now it's
not an edge guy, but man, they got a good
(04:57):
one in Quinn Williams.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
They had a good one, and like, this is the
whole thing where now if they can do a lot
of different things on defense that they couldn't do in
the first part of the season because they got good players.
How about that you got him and then you get
overshown back for Vell can play at corner. We may
have a little something, but uh enough me, Christina, what
is your pick to click this weekend?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
In Cowboys and Eagles?
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I'm gonna go, man, I hate to drink the Cowboys
kool aid, but everyone I know thinks they're gonna win,
including you guys.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I heard your boyfriend Mike make the pick them as well.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Yeah, so let's go Gambles, let's go Cowboys. Yeah, big
on prize picks thirty three twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Let's go. Yeah, there it is.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
It's on the record. Uh, let's see do this text us.
If you think Christina got her prediction right two one
four seventy eight seven one five three, make it out
to the general. Let him know what Christina picked and
see if he agrees. All right, Coming up next, it's
a weekly weekday update everything you need to know that's
going on in town this weekend. And then we'll end
the show at five point thirty with the Wayback Machine,
(06:04):
Mosquito and the Hulk with Kevin Brosteak covering the Eagles
all that's coming your way next on ninety seven point one,
The Eagle
Cowboy Surprise. How are you feeling about the game, Sunday, Ben.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Man, I feel so good about it, and I can't
believe it. I am such a bipolar roller coaster of
a human. Earlier in the year, I was already calling
for the Cowboys to tank. I thought they ruined their
season by trading Micah Parsons on the eve of launching
this thing. I thought they were cooked. Yet look now
(00:41):
and they're not. And it's irrational to think that that
team that had the worst defense in football, the Dallas Cowboys,
could go beat the defending Super Bowl champs, who are
eight and two. But it just feels like the Cowboys
have all this incredible momentum. The Quinn Williams trade is incredible.
The George Pickens is incredible. We always kick this front
(01:02):
office in the in the coconuts, but they have made
some great deals. I feel shockingly confident going into this game.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I do too.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
A fun note about this game is that Dak with
one hundred and sixty yards, will pass Tony Romo for
the all time leading passing yards for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So that's kind of crazy to think about. That kind
of makes you feel old.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Actually, yeah, he gets a lot of the same hate
that that Romo used to get.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Their careers are identical.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It's crazy, yeah, and it's like, okay, both exceptional at
what they do, putting up great numbers, a lot of heroics.
Never really had the supporting cast around him to quite
get it done on both sides of the ball. And
you know, Jerry said, is one of his biggest regrets
ever was you know, not getting you know, Tony Romo
those teams to the Super Bowl. I hope he doesn't
have that same regret about dak Now, they got to
(01:53):
get hot, they got to string a bunch of wins together.
But now would be the perfect time to get hot
and string some wins together. They're heading into the postseason,
so it's possible. But if they lose this game, it's
gonna crush my soul.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, I mean, realistically, they need to go two and
one in the next three games, which is Eagles, Chiefs, Lions,
but two of those are at home. So this is
the one to me of all three of those games.
Even though Philadelphia has a much better record than these
other teams, and Philadelphia's also beat Detroit like last week,
(02:31):
to me, like this is kind of the game that
is more gettable than any of these games. A. The
division games also trick things up. When you play a
team twice a year, you know them better. You're just
like those games tend to be closer. So I think
that one's the one that's most important. I have no
idea what to think about the Chiefs, and we'll get
these fuck they're five and five and they're not playing well,
and they're three and a half point favorites against the
(02:53):
eight and two Colts. It is hard for you to
imagine a Daniel Jones quarterback team going and like beating
the Chiefs. But the Chiefs might be and who knows,
Like that is such a who knows type thing. And
Detroit's got weird stuff going on too. I still think
Detroit's really good. The head coach, Dan Campbell's like, I'll
call plays, and he took over play calling duties when
they played Washington and they put up forty points and
(03:14):
everyone's like, well look at them going now, And then
they played the Eagles last week and couldn't get over
ten points. Like the lines are not, Like no one's
a world beater, honestly, Like the Bills lost to Houston
last night it's a.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Coin flip league.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
It truly, it truly is. And I do think the
Eagles are better than us. So we've seen this a
million times over the years. Tends to kind of even
out a little bit in the division. So this is
a game I think they can win. And if you
get ahead, you gotta get ahead. Cowboys are not a
play from behind team. They can't do that if the
Eagles can just sit there with the lead and continue
(03:48):
to run for whatever reason. And this is a big
part of why the Cowboys dominated the Raiders the other
night is because the Cowboys knew they were gonna throw
it on every play. It got to that point, you know,
there was no guessing at all, and that's the easiest
thing for them for any other team. So I think
the Cowboys are gonna sneak one out here on Sunday.
(04:11):
I think it's gonna be really close and really fun.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I don't know if you guys saw this, but Quinn
Williams was micd up during the game the Dallas Cowboys
started putting in some of that audio out I didn't
see that. It's awesome, Like he's a lovable guy, like
he is a superstar. He's got a huge personality. He
loves his teammates. He was encouraging Donovan Azeraku. He's like, hey,
he goes, go get him. You got the speed to
(04:35):
go get him. And he's like sitting there talking to
Kenny Clark, Hey, when you did this, I did this?
And you know they're sitting there talking about scouting the
other team during the game. He's talked about Dak Prescott,
how he's the best leader he's ever been around. This
dude has a massive and magical personality and is one
of the best defensive players in the league. Now it's
not an edge guy, but man, they got a good
(04:57):
one in Quinn Williams.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
They had a good one, and like, this is the
whole thing where now if they can do a lot
of different things on defense that they couldn't do in
the first part of the season because they got good players.
How about that you got him and then you get
overshown back for Vell can play at corner. We may
have a little something, but uh enough me, Christina, what
is your pick to click this weekend?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
In Cowboys and Eagles?
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I'm gonna go, man, I hate to drink the Cowboys
kool aid, but everyone I know thinks they're gonna win,
including you guys.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I heard your boyfriend Mike make the pick them as well.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Yeah, so let's go Gambles, let's go Cowboys. Yeah, big
on prize picks thirty three twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Let's go. Yeah, there it is.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
It's on the record. Uh, let's see do this text us.
If you think Christina got her prediction right two one
four seventy eight seven one five three, make it out
to the general. Let him know what Christina picked and
see if he agrees. All right, Coming up next, it's
a weekly weekday update everything you need to know that's
going on in town this weekend. And then we'll end
the show at five point thirty with the Wayback Machine,
(06:04):
Mosquito and the Hulk with Kevin Brosteak covering the Eagles
all that's coming your way next on ninety seven point one,
The Eagle
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