October 7, 2025 • 8 mins
Broadcasting from 97.1 The Eagle, the crew kicks off with a deep and hilarious breakdown of Cooper Flag’s jaw-dropping preseason debut — and Ben’s bold Vegas bet riding on the rookie’s performance.From Luka Doncic sightings at In-N-Out Burger to Shaq’s rookie record of 68 double-doubles, the gang blends basketball insight with their signature wit. Ben’s excitement is contagious as he breaks down Flag’s defensive brilliance, hustle, and potential to disrupt veteran complacency. Skin adds a layer of strategy, imagining how Jason Kidd might use Flag to light a fire under the Mavericks roster.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We could do this the easy way, or we could
do this the hard way.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
What all right with with ehing with ill show? You're
gone ruin it be except with simple be pursuing it
to hold out shaw shame through the sewer. Dude, Now
what chilling?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
I think?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Eagle, Yeah, we're doing it. Do your clotting on the dot.
Got a habit for my house? Or don't shat is
how it started. Kitting craddit shows that up multiply like
a rabbit. Do then some out creak it up beat
the habit.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I won't hang out with our friend rocking on the radio.
My holy boys getting in his talking on the radio.
It's time to do this sponsoring.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
All we go.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
He just sting up and.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
All a lot of it.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Oh yeah, Salona, Welcome everybody. It's the world famous Ben
and Skin Show ninety seven point one The Eagle, Ben Rogers,
Jeff skin Wade, Kevin k. T. Turner and Christina Kray
little baby corn Bread Ray ready to do this too.
This got a great show planned for you today. Looking
forward to getting into quite a few topics keeping you entertained.
I do have to say that the number one thing
(01:21):
on my radar is the NBA preseason debut of Cooper Flag.
I obviously got to see him in Summer League a
little bit. That's kind of like playing with a bunch
of guys at the Wreck in some ways, got a
real La fitness vibe. Yeah this, you know, you'll get
a you know, in some of the Summer League games,
(01:42):
you'd look out there and there'd be a guy playing
in a UPS uniform. You know, just so you just
got off work, call your own fouls. You wait to
have an next This actually features a two way contract guy. Yeah,
this actually featured some NBA players, at least on on
the Maverick side. But man, it was so much fun
watching him. Now it's not Luca fun. Nothing will ever
(02:04):
be Luca fun. So I was thinking about that a
little bit. My excitement for Cooper Flag is through the roof.
It's just a different experience than Luca. Luca had that
magic factor Luca's point guard. Luca was also really primarily
just playing on one side of the court. Cooper Flag
is obviously not as exciting as Luca on the offensive side,
(02:25):
but he's incredibly exciting on the defensive side. And I'm
gonna be watching this very closely all season because I
placed the bet in Vegas that Cooper Flag can have
twenty double doubles this year and I bet one hundred
bucks and I win like four hundred and fifty dollars
if that happens. And last night he had ten six,
(02:45):
three and one zero turnovers in just fourteen minutes. And
again the level of play wasn't incredible considering who Oklahoma
City was rolling out there, but I mean, he was awesome.
The thing that really impressed me is his decision making.
This is his unselfishness, his willingness to make the extra pass.
(03:08):
And then the Thunder players against him were one for eight.
You know he's gonna be good. Defensively, he was great
like coming over and helping and you know, just e
racing layups, just coming over from the other side. It
was fun to watch. And then he scored like ten
points in about five minutes. He just decided, oh, I'll
start scoring now. And so I think I think the
(03:29):
double double thing him having twenty plus is fairly safe.
Ooh safe, I mean I hope so, man, if he
ends up with more than twenty double doubles, it's going
to be a really spectacular year. We should get our
research people on that, like, when's who's the last rookie
to have twenty double doubles? I would love to know
who that is. Hell, maybe it was Luca, right, for sure,
(03:53):
Lebron did. I would be shocked if Lebron didn't have
twenty double doubles. And then the guys like he's talking
about the In and out Burger or yep, yes, stats,
it's exactly what we're talking about. Why he brought up Luca?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, chat GPT. Let me say, keep talking.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
By the way, I saw uh yeah, you're gonna ask
chat Jupt.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I saw it.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Shack, Yeah, Mike was the last rookie to have twenty
double doubles. No, he's got the most by a rookie. Oh,
he's sixty eight. So I saw Luca the other day.
He was at In and Out Burger and somebody was
taking a picture of him. He was driving like an
eight hundred thousand dollars car and he was just like
reading his phone in an in and out Burger, and
I thought, man, poor guy, He's like he's getting followed everywhere.
(04:36):
He's in great shape now, his diet's incredible, but he's
still getting shamed for being in an in and out, dude,
is there's nothing wrong with going and picking up drive
through for your wife. You know what I'm saying. She's
at home, she wants some in and out, a little
in and out.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I have Wimby with forty three double doubles. Nice, and
then DeAndre Ayton who now plays with Luca h He
hit thirty nine, Ben Simmons, Karl Anthony Towns, Blake Griffin.
It's really not that many over the last twenty five years,
or like ten guys, those rookies who had a bunch
of double doubles.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
The biggest problem for Cooper Flag to get double doubles
is the combination of Davis, Lively and Gafford. That's a
lot of rebounds. So my assists though, all right, man,
if he I bet he will have tennis sists at
no point this year. Oh really, I would be shocked
if he had tennis sists this year in a game. Yeah,
(05:31):
just I guess it depends would be I would be
pretty shocked too, But I think it's possible. Yeah, it's
definitely possible. And he's such a good passer and he's
constantly looking for other people. Maybe, but he's not going
to be creating that often. To have tennis cis you
got to have the ball in your hands all the time,
like all the time. But his best shot at getting
(05:52):
twenty double doubles will come with rebounds because he aggressively
goes after the basketball aggressively. And the other way where
he could really have it too, is like getting a
lot of offensive rebounds or rebounds in transition and that
kind of stuff, because you know, when you play that
hard all the time. I was thinking about this during
(06:12):
the game last night. I was watching him play, and
I was thinking about what happens during the course of
a year is veterans start taking plays off, and they
start taking sequences off, and then the coach has got
to figure out, all right, how am I going to
how am I going to deliver a message to a veteran. Well,
(06:35):
the best way to deliver a message to a veteran
is have a rookie take all of his minutes. And so,
you know, I'm excited that they signed Daniel Gafford. But
the reason Gafford was on four teams in five or
six years or whatever it was, was because you know,
he had this history of you know, he's really good,
but he has a tendency to take some time off,
(06:55):
and so if Gafford is out there and he's not
playing hard, well you'll get sat down. And so I think,
like if I'm Jason Kidd and I want to motivate
my team and have them playing at a high level
every game, especially in like frickin January when everyone's mailing
it in, I'm gonna have every play go through Cooper
(07:17):
Flag and that will get their attention. None of those
guys want to acquiesce to a rookie, no matter how
good that rookie is, so his his. I think his
greatest asset to impact the Mavericks this year is that
he competes on every single possession and that has a
catalytic effect. It's awesome. Oh, we got an awesome show today.
(07:38):
We'll get into Jerry flipping the bird to some people.
We will have a love shock or people getting married
later in life. We're gonna talk Halloween costume at Halloween
costume ideas at three point thirty, Christina, do you have
your costume picked out yet? Not yet? So I need this.
I need this segment bad.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
No ideas yet.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I mean, I'm going to re wear what I.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Wore last year.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
But that's it right now, and that's a pirate.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
That's a pirate last year. We're gonna have to make
sure that on Halloween when we're at the Pluckers in Dallas,
that we have someone covering the board so Christina can
be on remote with us so the listeners can judge
our Halloween costume.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I'm uncomfortable with how you guys are handling all this.
Did you are you gonna slut up your look Katie
for show? Why are you trying to show it off?
I got a good plan, really, but I'm saving it.
Are we doing costumes at Pluckers? I think we have to, Christina?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Absolutely? Why not?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Okay, a bunch of pees?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, maybe we can have a Maybe we'd come up
with a giveaway for listeners with the best costume. All right,
coming up in just over three minutes, Skin, We're gonna
take us in things. Skin is tracking something historic is
happening in Fort Worth today and I would like to
talk about it all over the Metro Place.
We could do this the easy way, or we could
do this the hard way.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
What all right with with ehing with ill show? You're
gone ruin it be except with simple be pursuing it
to hold out shaw shame through the sewer. Dude, Now
what chilling?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
I think?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Eagle, Yeah, we're doing it. Do your clotting on the dot.
Got a habit for my house? Or don't shat is
how it started. Kitting craddit shows that up multiply like
a rabbit. Do then some out creak it up beat
the habit.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I won't hang out with our friend rocking on the radio.
My holy boys getting in his talking on the radio.
It's time to do this sponsoring.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
All we go.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
He just sting up and.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
All a lot of it.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Oh yeah, Salona, Welcome everybody. It's the world famous Ben
and Skin Show ninety seven point one The Eagle, Ben Rogers,
Jeff skin Wade, Kevin k. T. Turner and Christina Kray
little baby corn Bread Ray ready to do this too.
This got a great show planned for you today. Looking
forward to getting into quite a few topics keeping you entertained.
I do have to say that the number one thing
(01:21):
on my radar is the NBA preseason debut of Cooper Flag.
I obviously got to see him in Summer League a
little bit. That's kind of like playing with a bunch
of guys at the Wreck in some ways, got a
real La fitness vibe. Yeah this, you know, you'll get
a you know, in some of the Summer League games,
(01:42):
you'd look out there and there'd be a guy playing
in a UPS uniform. You know, just so you just
got off work, call your own fouls. You wait to
have an next This actually features a two way contract guy. Yeah,
this actually featured some NBA players, at least on on
the Maverick side. But man, it was so much fun
watching him. Now it's not Luca fun. Nothing will ever
(02:04):
be Luca fun. So I was thinking about that a
little bit. My excitement for Cooper Flag is through the roof.
It's just a different experience than Luca. Luca had that
magic factor Luca's point guard. Luca was also really primarily
just playing on one side of the court. Cooper Flag
is obviously not as exciting as Luca on the offensive side,
(02:25):
but he's incredibly exciting on the defensive side. And I'm
gonna be watching this very closely all season because I
placed the bet in Vegas that Cooper Flag can have
twenty double doubles this year and I bet one hundred
bucks and I win like four hundred and fifty dollars
if that happens. And last night he had ten six,
(02:45):
three and one zero turnovers in just fourteen minutes. And
again the level of play wasn't incredible considering who Oklahoma
City was rolling out there, but I mean, he was awesome.
The thing that really impressed me is his decision making.
This is his unselfishness, his willingness to make the extra pass.
(03:08):
And then the Thunder players against him were one for eight.
You know he's gonna be good. Defensively, he was great
like coming over and helping and you know, just e
racing layups, just coming over from the other side. It
was fun to watch. And then he scored like ten
points in about five minutes. He just decided, oh, I'll
start scoring now. And so I think I think the
(03:29):
double double thing him having twenty plus is fairly safe.
Ooh safe, I mean I hope so, man, if he
ends up with more than twenty double doubles, it's going
to be a really spectacular year. We should get our
research people on that, like, when's who's the last rookie
to have twenty double doubles? I would love to know
who that is. Hell, maybe it was Luca, right, for sure,
(03:53):
Lebron did. I would be shocked if Lebron didn't have
twenty double doubles. And then the guys like he's talking
about the In and out Burger or yep, yes, stats,
it's exactly what we're talking about. Why he brought up Luca?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, chat GPT. Let me say, keep talking.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
By the way, I saw uh yeah, you're gonna ask
chat Jupt.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I saw it.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Shack, Yeah, Mike was the last rookie to have twenty
double doubles. No, he's got the most by a rookie. Oh,
he's sixty eight. So I saw Luca the other day.
He was at In and Out Burger and somebody was
taking a picture of him. He was driving like an
eight hundred thousand dollars car and he was just like
reading his phone in an in and out Burger, and
I thought, man, poor guy, He's like he's getting followed everywhere.
(04:36):
He's in great shape now, his diet's incredible, but he's
still getting shamed for being in an in and out, dude,
is there's nothing wrong with going and picking up drive
through for your wife. You know what I'm saying. She's
at home, she wants some in and out, a little
in and out.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I have Wimby with forty three double doubles. Nice, and
then DeAndre Ayton who now plays with Luca h He
hit thirty nine, Ben Simmons, Karl Anthony Towns, Blake Griffin.
It's really not that many over the last twenty five years,
or like ten guys, those rookies who had a bunch
of double doubles.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
The biggest problem for Cooper Flag to get double doubles
is the combination of Davis, Lively and Gafford. That's a
lot of rebounds. So my assists though, all right, man,
if he I bet he will have tennis sists at
no point this year. Oh really, I would be shocked
if he had tennis sists this year in a game. Yeah,
(05:31):
just I guess it depends would be I would be
pretty shocked too, But I think it's possible. Yeah, it's
definitely possible. And he's such a good passer and he's
constantly looking for other people. Maybe, but he's not going
to be creating that often. To have tennis cis you
got to have the ball in your hands all the time,
like all the time. But his best shot at getting
(05:52):
twenty double doubles will come with rebounds because he aggressively
goes after the basketball aggressively. And the other way where
he could really have it too, is like getting a
lot of offensive rebounds or rebounds in transition and that
kind of stuff, because you know, when you play that
hard all the time. I was thinking about this during
(06:12):
the game last night. I was watching him play, and
I was thinking about what happens during the course of
a year is veterans start taking plays off, and they
start taking sequences off, and then the coach has got
to figure out, all right, how am I going to
how am I going to deliver a message to a veteran. Well,
(06:35):
the best way to deliver a message to a veteran
is have a rookie take all of his minutes. And so,
you know, I'm excited that they signed Daniel Gafford. But
the reason Gafford was on four teams in five or
six years or whatever it was, was because you know,
he had this history of you know, he's really good,
but he has a tendency to take some time off,
(06:55):
and so if Gafford is out there and he's not
playing hard, well you'll get sat down. And so I think,
like if I'm Jason Kidd and I want to motivate
my team and have them playing at a high level
every game, especially in like frickin January when everyone's mailing
it in, I'm gonna have every play go through Cooper
(07:17):
Flag and that will get their attention. None of those
guys want to acquiesce to a rookie, no matter how
good that rookie is, so his his. I think his
greatest asset to impact the Mavericks this year is that
he competes on every single possession and that has a
catalytic effect. It's awesome. Oh, we got an awesome show today.
(07:38):
We'll get into Jerry flipping the bird to some people.
We will have a love shock or people getting married
later in life. We're gonna talk Halloween costume at Halloween
costume ideas at three point thirty, Christina, do you have
your costume picked out yet? Not yet? So I need this.
I need this segment bad.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
No ideas yet.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I mean, I'm going to re wear what I.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Wore last year.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
But that's it right now, and that's a pirate.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
That's a pirate last year. We're gonna have to make
sure that on Halloween when we're at the Pluckers in Dallas,
that we have someone covering the board so Christina can
be on remote with us so the listeners can judge
our Halloween costume.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I'm uncomfortable with how you guys are handling all this.
Did you are you gonna slut up your look Katie
for show? Why are you trying to show it off?
I got a good plan, really, but I'm saving it.
Are we doing costumes at Pluckers? I think we have to, Christina?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Absolutely? Why not?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Okay, a bunch of pees?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, maybe we can have a Maybe we'd come up
with a giveaway for listeners with the best costume. All right,
coming up in just over three minutes, Skin, We're gonna
take us in things. Skin is tracking something historic is
happening in Fort Worth today and I would like to
talk about it all over the Metro Place.
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