July 14, 2025 • 6 mins
“What if LeBron James and Bronny suited up in Dallas blue next season?”That’s the jaw-dropping question Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray tackle in this electric episode of The Ben and Skin Show. Fueled by a viral trade rumor that has the NBA world buzzing, the crew dives deep into the possibility of LeBron James and his son Bronny being traded to the Dallas Mavericks—and the ripple effects such a move would send through the league.The crew debates whether the Lakers are truly committed to LeBron, if the Mavericks would ever pull the trigger on such a blockbuster, and whether Cleveland could be the final chapter in LeBron’s legendary career.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Reach down and grab a couple of plump tomatoes. It's
time for sport to catch up. Cutup sports, sports, catchup catsups.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
That's a serious song for sports.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Brandon Scoop b Robinson is a guy in the content space,
does forty three thousand followers on Twitter. So, I mean, yeah,
got a little thing and says, could Lebron James joined
the Dallas Mavericks buzz builds among around long rumored idea.
Now he actually even put a trade on paper here
in this thing, Oh, let's go. Dallas would receive Lebron
(00:41):
James and Bronnie James.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Can I go ahead and just say that, I do
think any Lebron James trade will include Bronnie, who would
have to I mean.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Or they just cut him. He's gonna have to keep
him under the umbrella.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Lakers would receive Klay Thompson, Daniel Gafford, PJ. Washington, and
Max Christie.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
So then now you're seeing the vision that gets out.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
And then all the other like NBA people are starting
retweeting it, and it starts going around that four teams
have tried to trade for Lebron James. Now Lebron James'
camp are like, no, we never asked for a trade.
The Lakers like, we want to build around not only
Lebron's timeline but also Luca's timeline. Oh, hold on, hold on,
hold on rewind Have the Lakers issued a statement since
(01:26):
the article Friday? Not a statement? No, which I haven't
seen one, because there's Dave mcminimon reports from Summer League.
What did he say that the Lakers have insisted they're
not trying to get rid of Lebron and oh, yeah, well,
the Lebron's team never asked for a trade.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
They had to issue that after a Friday's article. Yeah,
I mean, Shelbourne and Windhurst are saying, well, here's what
Lebron thinks, and here's exactly why he did all the
things he did. I mean, the Lakers, if they if
they had every intention of keeping Lebron happy, they completely
annihilated that. And they've been in the business of keeping
him happy, so they know what that takes. They gave
(02:03):
him how they go on a guaranteed contract, and so
now they have completely abandoned that. Though, right, it's like, okay,
you know, it's that old meme with the guy walking
with a girl, but he turns around looks at another girl.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, that's what they're doing. That's what they did.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
And to not even include Lebron in any of their
strategy planning with I mean, dude, they sent the message
it doesn't matter what.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Okay, did the Lakers dinner with Luca at a bar
that could have been at someone's house where paparazzi And
did that happen before or after Rich Paul Lebron's agent
statement that was saying, you know, we wanted the.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Chance to compete.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
It happened eight years, It happened well before, and so
that's why it happened. So that that dinner happened on
May fourth, and Lebron found out about it on TMZ
and so he was like, oh, it's like that now.
So when he opted in, he opted in, and Rich
Paul issued the statement as he opted in, and then
Rich Paul reached out to Luca's people so that they
(03:01):
understood that the statement had nothing to do with them
but had to do with the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
So it's all.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
And then Lebron spent a week and a half posting
how much he loves Cleveland on all of his social media,
So it's it's real now, Whether or not the Lakers
are going to do a deal is an entirely different story.
But if you look at those teams, I questioned the
validity of that source. But if you look at the teams,
I could see the Warriors doing it absolutely the Mavericks.
(03:29):
I mean, I don't know, man, maybe who's the third
team in the West. There's another team in the West,
But the one that makes sense is Cleveland because if
you're the Lakers, Clippers, Clippers, okay, yeah, if you're the Lakers,
send them to the other conference. And dude, the Lakers
(03:50):
could probably get Jared Allen and Darius Garland out of that.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Right, And what does Lebron want?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Does he just want to go home and like end
it with some symmetry in Cleveland or does he really
want to contend? And if he's just gonna play one
last year? I mean, he was really good last year.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
He was great? So does he care about one more ring?
Is that?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Is that what it's all about? I mean, you would think,
all right, this is ludicrous. There's no way in hell
the Mavericks would trade Let's see Gafford and PJ. Assuming
that's a deal that's tradeable, like Gafford's immediately or whatever.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Clay Clay and Max Scracy, you would assume that there
is no way in hell the Mavericks would do that.
But then you stop and realistically think that the guy
in charge is the guy who traded Luca and it's
the worst trade in history and did not get a
fair return back on that things have changed. You got
the number one pick. It's not crazy to think that
(04:44):
that guy would do this. Like you, if you just
look at his track record, he made the worst trade
in the history of humanity.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
It's possible that he might do this.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I think that's possible, and I think that's fair. The
thing that I would say is counter to that is
that three of the players in the trade are players
that he wants that style of basketball, Like he's trying
to build a team like Oklahoma City. You know, everyone's
killing him because he's bad at PR like he's bad
at PR. But if you like really look at what
(05:15):
he's trying to say, he does a horrible job of
saying it. What he's trying to say is I'm trying
to build a team like Oklahoma City where everyone's six'
eight and mauls you.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Defensively and so if you do the.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Trade that people are, proposing which makes sense because the salaries,
match that's what The lakers would, want that's going back against.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
What you're trying to.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Build but To ben's, POINT i, mean you Put Anthony,
Davis Kyrie, Irving Lebron, james And Cooper flagg together and
that's probably enough to get you all excited and blah blah. Blah,
Right SO i, MEAN i think it's all interesting to talk.
About If i'm The, lakers, Though i'm, like, Dude i'm
sending him in the other conference And i'm going to
build this. Team i'm praying it doesn't. Happen i'm praying
(05:57):
it doesn't, happen AND i don't think it. Will, yeah
it will, either but crazier things actually happened last, year
so it's who knows
Reach down and grab a couple of plump tomatoes. It's
time for sport to catch up. Cutup sports, sports, catchup catsups.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
That's a serious song for sports.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Brandon Scoop b Robinson is a guy in the content space,
does forty three thousand followers on Twitter. So, I mean, yeah,
got a little thing and says, could Lebron James joined
the Dallas Mavericks buzz builds among around long rumored idea.
Now he actually even put a trade on paper here
in this thing, Oh, let's go. Dallas would receive Lebron
(00:41):
James and Bronnie James.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Can I go ahead and just say that, I do
think any Lebron James trade will include Bronnie, who would
have to I mean.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Or they just cut him. He's gonna have to keep
him under the umbrella.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Lakers would receive Klay Thompson, Daniel Gafford, PJ. Washington, and
Max Christie.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
So then now you're seeing the vision that gets out.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
And then all the other like NBA people are starting
retweeting it, and it starts going around that four teams
have tried to trade for Lebron James. Now Lebron James'
camp are like, no, we never asked for a trade.
The Lakers like, we want to build around not only
Lebron's timeline but also Luca's timeline. Oh, hold on, hold on,
hold on rewind Have the Lakers issued a statement since
(01:26):
the article Friday? Not a statement? No, which I haven't
seen one, because there's Dave mcminimon reports from Summer League.
What did he say that the Lakers have insisted they're
not trying to get rid of Lebron and oh, yeah, well,
the Lebron's team never asked for a trade.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
They had to issue that after a Friday's article. Yeah,
I mean, Shelbourne and Windhurst are saying, well, here's what
Lebron thinks, and here's exactly why he did all the
things he did. I mean, the Lakers, if they if
they had every intention of keeping Lebron happy, they completely
annihilated that. And they've been in the business of keeping
him happy, so they know what that takes. They gave
(02:03):
him how they go on a guaranteed contract, and so
now they have completely abandoned that. Though, right, it's like, okay,
you know, it's that old meme with the guy walking
with a girl, but he turns around looks at another girl.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, that's what they're doing. That's what they did.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
And to not even include Lebron in any of their
strategy planning with I mean, dude, they sent the message
it doesn't matter what.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Okay, did the Lakers dinner with Luca at a bar
that could have been at someone's house where paparazzi And
did that happen before or after Rich Paul Lebron's agent
statement that was saying, you know, we wanted the.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Chance to compete.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
It happened eight years, It happened well before, and so
that's why it happened. So that that dinner happened on
May fourth, and Lebron found out about it on TMZ
and so he was like, oh, it's like that now.
So when he opted in, he opted in, and Rich
Paul issued the statement as he opted in, and then
Rich Paul reached out to Luca's people so that they
(03:01):
understood that the statement had nothing to do with them
but had to do with the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
So it's all.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
And then Lebron spent a week and a half posting
how much he loves Cleveland on all of his social media,
So it's it's real now, Whether or not the Lakers
are going to do a deal is an entirely different story.
But if you look at those teams, I questioned the
validity of that source. But if you look at the teams,
I could see the Warriors doing it absolutely the Mavericks.
(03:29):
I mean, I don't know, man, maybe who's the third
team in the West. There's another team in the West,
But the one that makes sense is Cleveland because if
you're the Lakers, Clippers, Clippers, okay, yeah, if you're the Lakers,
send them to the other conference. And dude, the Lakers
(03:50):
could probably get Jared Allen and Darius Garland out of that.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Right, And what does Lebron want?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Does he just want to go home and like end
it with some symmetry in Cleveland or does he really
want to contend? And if he's just gonna play one
last year? I mean, he was really good last year.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
He was great? So does he care about one more ring?
Is that?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Is that what it's all about? I mean, you would think,
all right, this is ludicrous. There's no way in hell
the Mavericks would trade Let's see Gafford and PJ. Assuming
that's a deal that's tradeable, like Gafford's immediately or whatever.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Clay Clay and Max Scracy, you would assume that there
is no way in hell the Mavericks would do that.
But then you stop and realistically think that the guy
in charge is the guy who traded Luca and it's
the worst trade in history and did not get a
fair return back on that things have changed. You got
the number one pick. It's not crazy to think that
(04:44):
that guy would do this. Like you, if you just
look at his track record, he made the worst trade
in the history of humanity.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
It's possible that he might do this.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I think that's possible, and I think that's fair. The
thing that I would say is counter to that is
that three of the players in the trade are players
that he wants that style of basketball, Like he's trying
to build a team like Oklahoma City. You know, everyone's
killing him because he's bad at PR like he's bad
at PR. But if you like really look at what
(05:15):
he's trying to say, he does a horrible job of
saying it. What he's trying to say is I'm trying
to build a team like Oklahoma City where everyone's six'
eight and mauls you.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Defensively and so if you do the.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Trade that people are, proposing which makes sense because the salaries,
match that's what The lakers would, want that's going back against.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
What you're trying to.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Build but To ben's, POINT i, mean you Put Anthony,
Davis Kyrie, Irving Lebron, james And Cooper flagg together and
that's probably enough to get you all excited and blah blah. Blah,
Right SO i, MEAN i think it's all interesting to talk.
About If i'm The, lakers, Though i'm, like, Dude i'm
sending him in the other conference And i'm going to
build this. Team i'm praying it doesn't. Happen i'm praying
(05:57):
it doesn't, happen AND i don't think it. Will, yeah
it will, either but crazier things actually happened last, year
so it's who knows
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