September 4, 2025 • 9 mins
"Is this the earliest I’ve ever given up on the Cowboys?"-Ben RogersBen Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray dive headfirst into the emotional whirlwind of Cowboys fandom on game day.From deflated expectations to wild optimism, this episode captures the full spectrum of Dallas Cowboys emotions. Ben confesses to being more disillusioned than ever, while Skin counters with a stat that might just reignite your hope: Brian Schottenheimer ranked #3 in offensive efficiency since 2000, right behind legends like Josh McDaniels and Ben Johnson. Could Shottie be the secret weapon?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Quick wit and win.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'll show you're gone, rule ahead, hexcept with se pursuing it.
Donld out shaw shank through the sewer.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Kid.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Now we're chilling at the Eagle. Yeah, we're doing it.
Do your clock on the doc. Got a habit for
my house, a goat status. How we'd starting to get
Cragg shows that up multiply like a rabbit tuned end
zone out, crank it up, beat the habit. I'm hang
out with my friend locking on the radio at Trieste.
(00:37):
All of them money.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Oh yes, it is the world famous Ben and Skin
Show ninety seven point one The Eagle on a Cowboy
game day.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
That's right. Season gets going tonight.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Cowboys, Eagles, Cowboys in Philly playing the world champs on
the road. Let's tell gay let's Tank's gate, all right,
Ben Rogers, Jeff skin Wade, Kevin k T Turner, Christina
k Ray, Little baby Cornbread Ray is no longer with us.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
May she rest in peace?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
It happens, dude, I mean every day, little baby corn
Breads aren't with us anymore.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah, it's a daily occurrence. All right. I am very.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Excited about this Cowboy game. We will talk cowboys and
custing the Cowboys at five o'clock. You don't want to
miss that. But just in general, I think this is
the earliest I've ever given up on them.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Oh man.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
I mean even when Paul Palmer was their running back
and they were hopeless and couldn't get their games on TV,
I still.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Was like, Hey, what if? What if they could be?
Speaker 4 (01:43):
This is the most deflated I've ever been at the
start of a season, even during the Campo years. Yeah,
because I used to trick myself into believing, and now
I'm not falling for the banana and the tailpipe. I
realize that is not the top priority. The team's valuation
is the top priority, and so I now get it.
(02:05):
I realize that. And it's just not a well run organization,
which is why they haven't been to the NFC Championship
in thirty years or whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
So it's tough.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
So uh yeah, I mean, I'm rooting for the Cowboys
and I hope to god I'm wrong, you know, And
as you get closer to kickoff, I'm like, what if.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
What if Pickens is the answer and he unlocks this
being the number two?
Speaker 4 (02:30):
And what if the offensive line is better than what
if Jayden Blue takes one to the house, and what
if now they got you know, Kenny Clark, Now they're
stuff in the run.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Number one offense you go, I mean, it's a new shot.
He no one can predict what he's gonna do. Maybe
they go win in Philly. Maybe they drum Philly on
the road. Oh my god, plan the parade route.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I don't want to spoil the rest of the show.
So let me ask you a question, KT shoot, because
I know you're prepared. Do you have have any particular
shoddy stats that you wanted to share with us?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
No?
Speaker 4 (03:05):
No, no, okay, we can do it later. Because if
you don't have this, I want to share it. You
don't have it specific all right, Ben, I want to
read you something I read this morning, and this is
going to get you very excited. We talked about you
were just talking about we don't know what what shot
he gonna do? What is offense is going to be
like as since the New Millennium, Since the year two thousand,
(03:28):
the top seasons of points per game versus plays called
so for how many plays you call? How many points
does it deliver? The number one in the New Millennium
was Ben Johnson from the Lions right offensive genius. Number
two was Josh McDaniels with the Patriots as they were
winning Super Bowls. Number three was Brian Schottenheimer with the
(03:53):
Seahawks from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty, and then after
that was actually Kellen Moore's tenure as a cowboy. All
of those guys were at some point viewed as young
boy offensive genius. Right, and you got healthy Dak, you
got you just got me hype on Pickens again, they
got receivers.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Uh, who knows, man, this offensive line might be okay,
maybe what if it is?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Then or the biggest problem is Dak's blindside. I mean
that right, that's a big deal. I mean it might
it might move as well.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Now that might be a problem, MASI, But then we
have a problem that might be do you play?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Hold on?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
What did you just say? Do you think is Mazzie?
And if he is, that's hold on, don't say it.
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
I don't think we're okay, Yeah, we don't know yet,
but it could he could also be a bust. I
mean with Tyler Smith early on, you're like, okay, never
should have doubted that that dude can play even booker.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
You're like, okay, how do you can play with guy?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
And we're like, uh, And dude, Cooper Beebe looks like me,
so it's like real tough like you should. Last year though,
he was and his college offensive line code, which is
the running backs coach.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Now that's good. The old line coach. Now, yeah, I
got'd be weird if he was the running backs coach.
You know, if it's a.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Coordinator, all these football nerds are nerd out or how
this guy drew up like some of the coolest run
plays ever in Arizona last year. You know who's dog
gass and making run plays is Mike McCarthy, Like he's
always been bad at that, So this is like a
really good sign. Also, George Pickens might be like, I'm
gonna go ball out and it's good And Jerry and
my agent are tight, so that's good.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Oh wait, who is picking agent?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Well, oh no, is it?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
That could be a bit of a problem moving forward.
It is, uh, Jerry would say, uh, but his name
is David Moglet Jerry, Oh no, we.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Got to get Pickens up there in Jerry's office.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
But mugletta is already he's way more professional than the Joneses,
and he's already said, oh man, hey, this is not personal.
We're ready to work a deal for Pickens, no problem.
How pissed is Mikey going to be if Pickens gets
the best deal.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I'm still like, after a week from the Parsons trade,
I'm not even like I I'm not even sure that
it's a bad trade. It's the handling of all of it,
exacts all of their bs, and it's like it's actually
probably makes sense.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
I think it's a decent well hold on, it could
be a great trade. I think it's I think it's
a fine trade. It's just their logic that went into
it was so stupid and it should have been done
in March.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
That's that's it. Cost the problem I have with it.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
It's like you could have got gas when it was
two seventy five, but you kept driving and you had
to get it at two ninety five. Well petroleum, he
doesn't know a lot about that. It's so we have
a bad night though, right. No, Philadelphia's getting their banner.
That's like, iugh, they're gonna bedy, it's celebrating. They're gonna
be full they're gonna be well fed, they're gonna have
Super Bowl hangover, and there's no way that Saquon can
(06:48):
run on Kenny Clark. You know, Shoddy has dealt with
this for about twenty years, people doubting him. I just
wonder if he's got a little something first play Oh,
bean flicker play.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
They run the bean flicker man. That would shock the nation.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
But how sad would be though if it's a flea
flicker but it's a deep ball to turpin, which is
not what anyone wants.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I want to see him high point it.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Yeah, So I mean, obviously it's a game day, so
I'm nervous and there's still a tiny glimmer of hope.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
But mostly you're gonna get for me.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Just uh, you know, I'm gonna be posting a lot
of pictures of tanks sliding around. Okay, hopefully the Cowboys
go in seventeen or seventeen, and know either way, I'd
be happy. I do want to say I started the
day off today in a magical way, and I know
it's going to be a great day. We have reserved
parking spots here in this iheartbuilding. However, they are not
marked very well. And so a lot of times people
(07:49):
just park in our spots, which creates some chaos, if
you know. If you're like, okay, now I don't know
where I can actually park.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Do I take another?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Parks on the second floor lately because there's too many
spots field Well, people have clearly came back to the
office as I.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Pulled in today. The greatest thing ever happened? What's that?
Caught someone red handed?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I love it? You pants them? I caught him red handed?
He was I saw that. I saw someone in my spot.
I was like, dang it.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
And then I saw the lights flicker as he was
locking it to walk off, and I said, rolled my
window down.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Excuse me, sir, that is a preserved spot.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Who was it?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
And I said it some guy? What national? Does it
work here? I don't with us? I don't think so.
I have no idea. Why are you asking that because
the embassy no, was he from the Korean consulate? Why
are you asking one of the IBM guys?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Well?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
All I know?
Speaker 4 (08:39):
And by the way, where does that saying come from?
It could be something horrible? Red handed? What does it
mean to Does that mean blood?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
It means blood on their hands?
Speaker 4 (08:47):
I caught him with blood on his hands at the
scene of the murder. It's why they changed the name
to the Commanders. I would stay away. Nervous about you,
all right?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Coming up next? Where are you going to take us
in things? Skin is tracking all right? Coming up next.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
The shocking fashion world of eighteen year olds right here
on the Eagle
Quick wit and win.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'll show you're gone, rule ahead, hexcept with se pursuing it.
Donld out shaw shank through the sewer.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Kid.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Now we're chilling at the Eagle. Yeah, we're doing it.
Do your clock on the doc. Got a habit for
my house, a goat status. How we'd starting to get
Cragg shows that up multiply like a rabbit tuned end
zone out, crank it up, beat the habit. I'm hang
out with my friend locking on the radio at Trieste.
(00:37):
All of them money.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Oh yes, it is the world famous Ben and Skin
Show ninety seven point one The Eagle on a Cowboy
game day.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
That's right. Season gets going tonight.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Cowboys, Eagles, Cowboys in Philly playing the world champs on
the road. Let's tell gay let's Tank's gate, all right,
Ben Rogers, Jeff skin Wade, Kevin k T Turner, Christina
k Ray, Little baby Cornbread Ray is no longer with us.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
May she rest in peace?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
It happens, dude, I mean every day, little baby corn
Breads aren't with us anymore.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah, it's a daily occurrence. All right. I am very.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Excited about this Cowboy game. We will talk cowboys and
custing the Cowboys at five o'clock. You don't want to
miss that. But just in general, I think this is
the earliest I've ever given up on them.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Oh man.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
I mean even when Paul Palmer was their running back
and they were hopeless and couldn't get their games on TV,
I still.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Was like, Hey, what if? What if they could be?
Speaker 4 (01:43):
This is the most deflated I've ever been at the
start of a season, even during the Campo years. Yeah,
because I used to trick myself into believing, and now
I'm not falling for the banana and the tailpipe. I
realize that is not the top priority. The team's valuation
is the top priority, and so I now get it.
(02:05):
I realize that. And it's just not a well run organization,
which is why they haven't been to the NFC Championship
in thirty years or whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
So it's tough.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
So uh yeah, I mean, I'm rooting for the Cowboys
and I hope to god I'm wrong, you know, And
as you get closer to kickoff, I'm like, what if.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
What if Pickens is the answer and he unlocks this
being the number two?
Speaker 4 (02:30):
And what if the offensive line is better than what
if Jayden Blue takes one to the house, and what
if now they got you know, Kenny Clark, Now they're
stuff in the run.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Number one offense you go, I mean, it's a new shot.
He no one can predict what he's gonna do. Maybe
they go win in Philly. Maybe they drum Philly on
the road. Oh my god, plan the parade route.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I don't want to spoil the rest of the show.
So let me ask you a question, KT shoot, because
I know you're prepared. Do you have have any particular
shoddy stats that you wanted to share with us?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
No?
Speaker 4 (03:05):
No, no, okay, we can do it later. Because if
you don't have this, I want to share it. You
don't have it specific all right, Ben, I want to
read you something I read this morning, and this is
going to get you very excited. We talked about you
were just talking about we don't know what what shot
he gonna do? What is offense is going to be
like as since the New Millennium, Since the year two thousand,
(03:28):
the top seasons of points per game versus plays called
so for how many plays you call? How many points
does it deliver? The number one in the New Millennium
was Ben Johnson from the Lions right offensive genius. Number
two was Josh McDaniels with the Patriots as they were
winning Super Bowls. Number three was Brian Schottenheimer with the
(03:53):
Seahawks from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty, and then after
that was actually Kellen Moore's tenure as a cowboy. All
of those guys were at some point viewed as young
boy offensive genius. Right, and you got healthy Dak, you
got you just got me hype on Pickens again, they
got receivers.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Uh, who knows, man, this offensive line might be okay,
maybe what if it is?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Then or the biggest problem is Dak's blindside. I mean
that right, that's a big deal. I mean it might
it might move as well.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Now that might be a problem, MASI, But then we
have a problem that might be do you play?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Hold on?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
What did you just say? Do you think is Mazzie?
And if he is, that's hold on, don't say it.
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
I don't think we're okay, Yeah, we don't know yet,
but it could he could also be a bust. I
mean with Tyler Smith early on, you're like, okay, never
should have doubted that that dude can play even booker.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
You're like, okay, how do you can play with guy?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
And we're like, uh, And dude, Cooper Beebe looks like me,
so it's like real tough like you should. Last year though,
he was and his college offensive line code, which is
the running backs coach.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Now that's good. The old line coach. Now, yeah, I
got'd be weird if he was the running backs coach.
You know, if it's a.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Coordinator, all these football nerds are nerd out or how
this guy drew up like some of the coolest run
plays ever in Arizona last year. You know who's dog
gass and making run plays is Mike McCarthy, Like he's
always been bad at that, So this is like a
really good sign. Also, George Pickens might be like, I'm
gonna go ball out and it's good And Jerry and
my agent are tight, so that's good.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Oh wait, who is picking agent?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Well, oh no, is it?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
That could be a bit of a problem moving forward.
It is, uh, Jerry would say, uh, but his name
is David Moglet Jerry, Oh no, we.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Got to get Pickens up there in Jerry's office.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
But mugletta is already he's way more professional than the Joneses,
and he's already said, oh man, hey, this is not personal.
We're ready to work a deal for Pickens, no problem.
How pissed is Mikey going to be if Pickens gets
the best deal.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I'm still like, after a week from the Parsons trade,
I'm not even like I I'm not even sure that
it's a bad trade. It's the handling of all of it,
exacts all of their bs, and it's like it's actually
probably makes sense.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
I think it's a decent well hold on, it could
be a great trade. I think it's I think it's
a fine trade. It's just their logic that went into
it was so stupid and it should have been done
in March.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
That's that's it. Cost the problem I have with it.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
It's like you could have got gas when it was
two seventy five, but you kept driving and you had
to get it at two ninety five. Well petroleum, he
doesn't know a lot about that. It's so we have
a bad night though, right. No, Philadelphia's getting their banner.
That's like, iugh, they're gonna bedy, it's celebrating. They're gonna
be full they're gonna be well fed, they're gonna have
Super Bowl hangover, and there's no way that Saquon can
(06:48):
run on Kenny Clark. You know, Shoddy has dealt with
this for about twenty years, people doubting him. I just
wonder if he's got a little something first play Oh,
bean flicker play.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
They run the bean flicker man. That would shock the nation.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
But how sad would be though if it's a flea
flicker but it's a deep ball to turpin, which is
not what anyone wants.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I want to see him high point it.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Yeah, So I mean, obviously it's a game day, so
I'm nervous and there's still a tiny glimmer of hope.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
But mostly you're gonna get for me.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Just uh, you know, I'm gonna be posting a lot
of pictures of tanks sliding around. Okay, hopefully the Cowboys
go in seventeen or seventeen, and know either way, I'd
be happy. I do want to say I started the
day off today in a magical way, and I know
it's going to be a great day. We have reserved
parking spots here in this iheartbuilding. However, they are not
marked very well. And so a lot of times people
(07:49):
just park in our spots, which creates some chaos, if
you know. If you're like, okay, now I don't know
where I can actually park.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Do I take another?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Parks on the second floor lately because there's too many
spots field Well, people have clearly came back to the
office as I.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Pulled in today. The greatest thing ever happened? What's that?
Caught someone red handed?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I love it? You pants them? I caught him red handed?
He was I saw that. I saw someone in my spot.
I was like, dang it.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
And then I saw the lights flicker as he was
locking it to walk off, and I said, rolled my
window down.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Excuse me, sir, that is a preserved spot.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Who was it?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
And I said it some guy? What national? Does it
work here? I don't with us? I don't think so.
I have no idea. Why are you asking that because
the embassy no, was he from the Korean consulate? Why
are you asking one of the IBM guys?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Well?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
All I know?
Speaker 4 (08:39):
And by the way, where does that saying come from?
It could be something horrible? Red handed? What does it
mean to Does that mean blood?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
It means blood on their hands?
Speaker 4 (08:47):
I caught him with blood on his hands at the
scene of the murder. It's why they changed the name
to the Commanders. I would stay away. Nervous about you,
all right?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Coming up next? Where are you going to take us
in things? Skin is tracking all right? Coming up next.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
The shocking fashion world of eighteen year olds right here
on the Eagle
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