November 4, 2025 • 12 mins
“Is this a lost season for the Cowboys… or just the beginning of a bold rebuild?”In this fiery and hilarious episode of The Ben and Skin Show, Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray dive deep into the chaos surrounding the Dallas Cowboys’ trade deadline moves, including the blockbuster deal for Quinnen Williams and the fallout from losing Micah Parsons. KT breaks down the defensive disaster against Marvin Harrison Jr., and the crew debates whether the Cowboys are spiraling or setting up for a major free agency splash.From Troy Aikman’s savage commentary (“He may want to cancel that trade”) to Joe Buck’s deadpan delivery, the hosts revel in the absurdity of Jerry Jones’ headline-making appearance at Texas Live. Plus, KT’s antenna struggles and Disney’s streaming debacle spark a hilarious tangent that only this crew could turn into gold.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Been in Skinshaw and thank you for doing that. Thank
you for tuning in. I hope you're having a great
time listening. Jesse Jowiela will join us today coming up
at four thirty to talk about the big giant super
beaver moon that's going to happen tonight. It's going to
reveal itself to Dallas, Fort Worth and perhaps all of America.
You can check it out tonight in the sky above.
You will have details coming up about four thirty about that.
(00:22):
But right now it's stip for this. Now it is
around the sports KTD tweets as all the sports Yes.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, we told you at the top of the show
about all the Cowboys trades. Is the trade deadline hits
at three pm? I will tell you in an hour.
I do want to play for you some Jerry yesterday
at Texas Live with Stephen A. Smith and Michael Irvin
and a crowd of people who apparently didn't have to
work yesterday, and Jerry was really vibing with the crowd
and that's when he, you know, said some things that
(00:55):
got headlines. We'll do that in an hour. What first
thing I want to say? And by the way, got
Quinn Williams, who's a very good defensive tackle. It cost you,
Mazzie Smith, it cost you a second round pick this year,
a twenty twenty seven first round pick, and since you
have two, it'll be the highest one. So whatever, the worst,
whatever the Cowboys highest pick is, the Jets will get
(01:18):
that the best one, I guess.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
But he's immediately our best defensive player.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Oh yeah, well we gotta be a star. Yeah. Now,
the secondary is a problem clearly and has been. Dron
Bland and Marvin Harrison Junior last night was really something. Dude,
I don't know that I've seen a player get his
(01:42):
ankles broke like that, and it's the one rare time
we would all get that would all happen to all
of us. But when it does happen, like we can't
admit like I don't know that us all doing it
would have been that bad, Like much worse than what
happened to him when Marvin Harris and ran the slant
route and he fell down. Good God, that does not
(02:05):
happen like often at all, and it feels like it
happens to this team. I guess a lot, but that
was crazy and it made me start going Jesus, why
don't we paid Ron Bland?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
It?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Shit, it was a bad matchup, Like, it's just that
and Ron Bland. It's not been great, but no one's
been great on defense, So I don't know how I
feel about that. I was fine with the deal at
the time, but that was so crazy. I thought of
the meme of the model who's following in her heels
are sliding. That was nuts.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Man.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
We've drafted poorly, We've not done well in free agency,
and then we've paid probably the wrong guys too much,
and then we tried to haggle too much with our superstars.
And I mean, it's this is a lost season, and
you can't right before the season starts trade your best
player who's holding your defense together and expect to do well.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
You just can't.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
And so I you know, you look at we were
talking about this earlier. If you look at the Williams
deal and you put it through the lens of the
Micah trade and you look at the net net, is
anybody happy with that?
Speaker 4 (03:08):
No, you can't be happy because of the quality of
player Micah is. If you were going to figure out
a way to keep Kenny Clark long term and readjust
his money and all that, but if you look at
where their resources are on defense, now it's clear Kenny
Clark will not be on this team moving forward. So basically,
(03:30):
you traded Micah and the first round pick that's going
to the Jets, and in return you got two packers
first round picks and oh you also gave up a
second round pick and you got Quinn Williams. That's you're
not happy with that net return.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I don't think, No, you're not. And the only way
you could balance this out is by saying is honestly
by writing off this year and looking at what you
saved in the cap by not signed Micah. And then
now that takes you to a situation where you don't
know if Kenny Clark will be back or not, and
you might not care now that you have Quinn Williams.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
He's not back.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
But maybe Kenny Clark's cool and likes it here and
wants to wants to like he knows he's an aging player,
Like maybe he reworks the deal and and it's all good.
Like I don't think that will happen, but it's very possible.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
By the way, how crazy is it that Campbell was
getting sacks last night at thirty nine years.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Right, right, nuts, Okay, so what they probably should do,
and look, Jerry's window is not going to be opening forever,
and so what they probably should do is take that
cap space that they have and be huge players and
free agency and absolutely go for it with everything they
got next year. Right, Yeah, you've been selling out the
(04:47):
future beyond that to app Just go for it.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I think so because of where Dak is, I.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Would say part of that is signing George Pickens. I'm
I don't know where y'all are on this.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I'm I want to keep Pickens.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I do if you do it correctly. I don't want
to keep him if we're going to go to camp
and he's not signed and why yeah, yeah, I mean
that's the Zell thing.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
What's happened to our offense all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Offensive line is rough. I love the man as a person,
but Terrence Steele is he.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Got removed and then was it the third quarter?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
You know? Yeah? He can't? You know bad.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
This is not to absolve the offense of its issues yesterday,
but that is a better Cardinals team than coming in
here at two and four, two and five whatever.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
They were.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
You know, they their combined losses were all five of
their losses by thirteen points total. You can play with anybody.
And by the way, with Jacoby Brissett, they're getting eight
more points per game than when Kyler Murray starts. Yeah,
because Jude can throw the ball. I thought it was.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Real interesting hearing Treigman on the broadcast going, I don't
know how they can go back to Kyler. Jacoby Brissett
is so hot, and I'm like, wait, didn't we live
this with you where you.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Were Steve Berline.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on, Troy Romo, Yeah, you know.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
That.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
But that's not an excuse for the Cowboys issues. I
just I didn't realize, what, you know, just watching the
Cardinals play. It's well, I should say, on defense, on defense,
they were way better than I realized they were. Those
guys are pretty damn good.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Coming up next, I want to discuss something Troy said
on the broadcast last night.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Right, okay, this segment here is brought to you by
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thirty three. All right, Jesse Jwiela from Channel eight WFAA
(06:48):
meteorologists senior meteorologist is going to join us in about
fifteen minutes to talk about the super beaver moon that
we're all so enamored with. But let's keep this cowboy
conversation going with Kevin, who has some audio for you guys.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Enjoy Monday Night football last night?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
No, oh no, during halftime, I had MAV duty, so
I had to watch it when I got home.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
And so when I watch it when I get home
and I know the result, I tend to kind of
jump through it pretty quick. So there's probably a lot
of good commentary that I missed.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I would say that because I use an antenna due
to the YouTube TV Disney situation. Oh here we go
that even the Dallas Cowboys weren't able to fix. By
the way, Disney's losing like five million dollars a day,
and as this game's going on because YouTube TV has
like over ten million people on it, so like, uh,
but I could not watch the MAVs. But the Cowboy
(07:40):
game gets still out of hand that I watched the
last three minutes of the MAVs games and I don't
think I saw a single shot go in for the MAVs.
Which quarter, fourth quarter, last three minutes of the game.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Oh yeah, yeah, it was brutal.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, it was absolutely rough stuff there.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Same thing with the Pistons game final four or five minutes.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
If you like watching the ball go in, this isn't
for you.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Put the Cowboys game back on. It's not even a
good game right now. That's a whole different day, that's
a whole different time. Average Basketball ninety seven. Yeah, I
did see at least though, Kevin Durant. Did you see
his comments about Cooper Flag. No Flag got after him
on some possession.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
He said that he thinks Cooper Flag is going to
be one of the old time greats something like that,
And that's such high praise coming from KD especially when
there's people out there questioning Cooper Flag right now, like
seven or eight games into his career.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yeah, that's I think questioning a rookie is crazy. But
you know that's the nature of sports talk. You know,
you react to something quickly. I did not see KD
say that though, and I love hearing that.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
So we got Joe Buck and we got Troy Aigman
doing the game, and they're they're re hitting Jerry's headlines
and what he said. And at five o'clock, I'm gonna
play you the full like what Jerry actually said. Okay,
because it was crazy. The whole scene is insane. Okay,
that's coming up at five. But here's Joe Buck kind
of re as what some of the headlines put together
what Jerry said.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
We certainly have.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Made a trade, and we may make a couple more
trades before that deadline. We've made one. We possibly could
make some more. He's kind of left that out there,
but not willing to name what the trade was tonight.
That will come out tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, he may want to cancel that trade.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
I don't think a big player from what I've seen tonight.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
It's gonna make a difference with this.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
He's so great, that's so good, he's the best, he's
the best, going I'm with you and for him, for
him over anybody else, and for him to, you know,
be one of the greatest cowboys of all time. But
still not cater to them. I mean, it's pretty great.
He's not kissing Jerry's ass at all.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
And by the way, and I think Troy would probably
say this. I think a big part of his greatness
is Joe Buck. Oh, Joe Buck's great them together, in
the chemistry they have and how they believe in one another.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
It is a really great duo.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
So I think, I mean, it's funny to see. And then
you wake up this morning and it's like the Cowboys
have traded from Logan Wilson.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
I thought that's the first thing I saw this morning,
and I was like, wait, so, what's going on with him?
And then I looked as like, oh, so he's a
special teams player.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Now everyone was pretty upset with it, just because it's
a guy who has basically been unhappy with the scheme
in Cincinnati. Keep in mind, Cincinnati has an absolute war
going on between their offensive and defensive players. This is
the Bengals running back Chase Brown. I'm just telling you
how bad this is right now. It's in the Bengals
offensive defense. This is the Bengals running back mad at
(10:38):
the defense, and Logan Wilson has not been starting for
the Bengals defense.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
It sucks, but you got to play to the last second.
You can't let up even even when you feel like
the momentum shifted. So that would that would be how
I'm feeling right now is just play all the way through.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
And what was running through your head walking back to
the locker chase.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Probably the same as running through your head, like like
what the fuck?
Speaker 3 (11:03):
When does that emotion change to just anger?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
How differently the season could a look if people closed
out the last two weeks felt it just it just it.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Building between the offense and defense, at least from the outside.
What do you do as a leader on the team
of someone to kind of prevent that from happening.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Just don't turn on each other, like we we know
how they can play.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
They played really well at the start of the season,
Like we put the ball in the end zone and
go up a point at the end, finish the game,
like just end it.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Don't turn on each other except I'm still crapping on
him right now, dude, and Logan Wilson can't start for
that team. I mean, Jamar Chase could not even talk
to the media. He was just like, I don't know
what they say anymore. They're gonna give up fifty points.
We can put up forty. They are gonna give up
forty one no matter what. It's the franchises are the same.
(11:54):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
It was the exact same thing, but now the Cowboys
offense is terrible. Yeah, that's two straight weeks where the
offense has been bad.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
And I don't understand why. No, I don't either.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Jake Ferguson's awful. Last night.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
God, he had a bad game.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
And I would contend that his touchdowns are skewing how
good he's really been all year. He's got a bunch
of touchdowns and the stats are padded for a little bit,
and I'm like, he's not breaking tackles, he's not doing
a lot. So that was bad. And uh, you know,
Javonte Williams ran pretty hard, got that.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
And then he had a late fumble to seal.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I mean, like, fumble killed you.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Both of those fumbles were bad because theoretically it keeps
you within striking distance, but then you know the offense
is gonna the other team's offense is going to go
back out there.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
God rough sucks, all right. Yeah, I guys just say
I can't wait till five o'clock beause I want you
to hear what Jerry actually say yesterday at Texas Life.
It's crazy great, all.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Right, that's coming up at five o'clock. Don't miss that.
Coming up next. The senior meteorologists from WFA Jesse Jill Wheela,
joins us next right here on ninety seven point one
The Eagle
Been in Skinshaw and thank you for doing that. Thank
you for tuning in. I hope you're having a great
time listening. Jesse Jowiela will join us today coming up
at four thirty to talk about the big giant super
beaver moon that's going to happen tonight. It's going to
reveal itself to Dallas, Fort Worth and perhaps all of America.
You can check it out tonight in the sky above.
You will have details coming up about four thirty about that.
(00:22):
But right now it's stip for this. Now it is
around the sports KTD tweets as all the sports Yes.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, we told you at the top of the show
about all the Cowboys trades. Is the trade deadline hits
at three pm? I will tell you in an hour.
I do want to play for you some Jerry yesterday
at Texas Live with Stephen A. Smith and Michael Irvin
and a crowd of people who apparently didn't have to
work yesterday, and Jerry was really vibing with the crowd
and that's when he, you know, said some things that
(00:55):
got headlines. We'll do that in an hour. What first
thing I want to say? And by the way, got
Quinn Williams, who's a very good defensive tackle. It cost you,
Mazzie Smith, it cost you a second round pick this year,
a twenty twenty seven first round pick, and since you
have two, it'll be the highest one. So whatever, the worst,
whatever the Cowboys highest pick is, the Jets will get
(01:18):
that the best one, I guess.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
But he's immediately our best defensive player.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Oh yeah, well we gotta be a star. Yeah. Now,
the secondary is a problem clearly and has been. Dron
Bland and Marvin Harrison Junior last night was really something. Dude,
I don't know that I've seen a player get his
(01:42):
ankles broke like that, and it's the one rare time
we would all get that would all happen to all
of us. But when it does happen, like we can't
admit like I don't know that us all doing it
would have been that bad, Like much worse than what
happened to him when Marvin Harris and ran the slant
route and he fell down. Good God, that does not
(02:05):
happen like often at all, and it feels like it
happens to this team. I guess a lot, but that
was crazy and it made me start going Jesus, why
don't we paid Ron Bland?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
It?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Shit, it was a bad matchup, Like, it's just that
and Ron Bland. It's not been great, but no one's
been great on defense, So I don't know how I
feel about that. I was fine with the deal at
the time, but that was so crazy. I thought of
the meme of the model who's following in her heels
are sliding. That was nuts.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Man.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
We've drafted poorly, We've not done well in free agency,
and then we've paid probably the wrong guys too much,
and then we tried to haggle too much with our superstars.
And I mean, it's this is a lost season, and
you can't right before the season starts trade your best
player who's holding your defense together and expect to do well.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
You just can't.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
And so I you know, you look at we were
talking about this earlier. If you look at the Williams
deal and you put it through the lens of the
Micah trade and you look at the net net, is
anybody happy with that?
Speaker 4 (03:08):
No, you can't be happy because of the quality of
player Micah is. If you were going to figure out
a way to keep Kenny Clark long term and readjust
his money and all that, but if you look at
where their resources are on defense, now it's clear Kenny
Clark will not be on this team moving forward. So basically,
(03:30):
you traded Micah and the first round pick that's going
to the Jets, and in return you got two packers
first round picks and oh you also gave up a
second round pick and you got Quinn Williams. That's you're
not happy with that net return.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I don't think, No, you're not. And the only way
you could balance this out is by saying is honestly
by writing off this year and looking at what you
saved in the cap by not signed Micah. And then
now that takes you to a situation where you don't
know if Kenny Clark will be back or not, and
you might not care now that you have Quinn Williams.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
He's not back.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
But maybe Kenny Clark's cool and likes it here and
wants to wants to like he knows he's an aging player,
Like maybe he reworks the deal and and it's all good.
Like I don't think that will happen, but it's very possible.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
By the way, how crazy is it that Campbell was
getting sacks last night at thirty nine years.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Right, right, nuts, Okay, so what they probably should do,
and look, Jerry's window is not going to be opening forever,
and so what they probably should do is take that
cap space that they have and be huge players and
free agency and absolutely go for it with everything they
got next year. Right, Yeah, you've been selling out the
(04:47):
future beyond that to app Just go for it.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I think so because of where Dak is, I.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Would say part of that is signing George Pickens. I'm
I don't know where y'all are on this.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I'm I want to keep Pickens.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I do if you do it correctly. I don't want
to keep him if we're going to go to camp
and he's not signed and why yeah, yeah, I mean
that's the Zell thing.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
What's happened to our offense all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Offensive line is rough. I love the man as a person,
but Terrence Steele is he.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Got removed and then was it the third quarter?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
You know? Yeah? He can't? You know bad.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
This is not to absolve the offense of its issues yesterday,
but that is a better Cardinals team than coming in
here at two and four, two and five whatever.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
They were.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
You know, they their combined losses were all five of
their losses by thirteen points total. You can play with anybody.
And by the way, with Jacoby Brissett, they're getting eight
more points per game than when Kyler Murray starts. Yeah,
because Jude can throw the ball. I thought it was.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Real interesting hearing Treigman on the broadcast going, I don't
know how they can go back to Kyler. Jacoby Brissett
is so hot, and I'm like, wait, didn't we live
this with you where you.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Were Steve Berline.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on, Troy Romo, Yeah, you know.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
That.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
But that's not an excuse for the Cowboys issues. I
just I didn't realize, what, you know, just watching the
Cardinals play. It's well, I should say, on defense, on defense,
they were way better than I realized they were. Those
guys are pretty damn good.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Coming up next, I want to discuss something Troy said
on the broadcast last night.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Right, okay, this segment here is brought to you by
Frankel and Frankel. They've been doing this for thirty years.
My friend's advocating for injury victims. If you get hurt
in a wreck around the job, site call the Frankels
first two one four, three three three thirty three thirty
three or eight one seven, three three three thirty three
thirty three. All right, Jesse Jwiela from Channel eight WFAA
(06:48):
meteorologists senior meteorologist is going to join us in about
fifteen minutes to talk about the super beaver moon that
we're all so enamored with. But let's keep this cowboy
conversation going with Kevin, who has some audio for you guys.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Enjoy Monday Night football last night?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
No, oh no, during halftime, I had MAV duty, so
I had to watch it when I got home.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
And so when I watch it when I get home
and I know the result, I tend to kind of
jump through it pretty quick. So there's probably a lot
of good commentary that I missed.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I would say that because I use an antenna due
to the YouTube TV Disney situation. Oh here we go
that even the Dallas Cowboys weren't able to fix. By
the way, Disney's losing like five million dollars a day,
and as this game's going on because YouTube TV has
like over ten million people on it, so like, uh,
but I could not watch the MAVs. But the Cowboy
(07:40):
game gets still out of hand that I watched the
last three minutes of the MAVs games and I don't
think I saw a single shot go in for the MAVs.
Which quarter, fourth quarter, last three minutes of the game.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Oh yeah, yeah, it was brutal.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, it was absolutely rough stuff there.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Same thing with the Pistons game final four or five minutes.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
If you like watching the ball go in, this isn't
for you.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Put the Cowboys game back on. It's not even a
good game right now. That's a whole different day, that's
a whole different time. Average Basketball ninety seven. Yeah, I
did see at least though, Kevin Durant. Did you see
his comments about Cooper Flag. No Flag got after him
on some possession.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
He said that he thinks Cooper Flag is going to
be one of the old time greats something like that,
And that's such high praise coming from KD especially when
there's people out there questioning Cooper Flag right now, like
seven or eight games into his career.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yeah, that's I think questioning a rookie is crazy. But
you know that's the nature of sports talk. You know,
you react to something quickly. I did not see KD
say that though, and I love hearing that.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
So we got Joe Buck and we got Troy Aigman
doing the game, and they're they're re hitting Jerry's headlines
and what he said. And at five o'clock, I'm gonna
play you the full like what Jerry actually said. Okay,
because it was crazy. The whole scene is insane. Okay,
that's coming up at five. But here's Joe Buck kind
of re as what some of the headlines put together
what Jerry said.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
We certainly have.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Made a trade, and we may make a couple more
trades before that deadline. We've made one. We possibly could
make some more. He's kind of left that out there,
but not willing to name what the trade was tonight.
That will come out tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, he may want to cancel that trade.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
I don't think a big player from what I've seen tonight.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
It's gonna make a difference with this.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
He's so great, that's so good, he's the best, he's
the best, going I'm with you and for him, for
him over anybody else, and for him to, you know,
be one of the greatest cowboys of all time. But
still not cater to them. I mean, it's pretty great.
He's not kissing Jerry's ass at all.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
And by the way, and I think Troy would probably
say this. I think a big part of his greatness
is Joe Buck. Oh, Joe Buck's great them together, in
the chemistry they have and how they believe in one another.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
It is a really great duo.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
So I think, I mean, it's funny to see. And then
you wake up this morning and it's like the Cowboys
have traded from Logan Wilson.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
I thought that's the first thing I saw this morning,
and I was like, wait, so, what's going on with him?
And then I looked as like, oh, so he's a
special teams player.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Now everyone was pretty upset with it, just because it's
a guy who has basically been unhappy with the scheme
in Cincinnati. Keep in mind, Cincinnati has an absolute war
going on between their offensive and defensive players. This is
the Bengals running back Chase Brown. I'm just telling you
how bad this is right now. It's in the Bengals
offensive defense. This is the Bengals running back mad at
(10:38):
the defense, and Logan Wilson has not been starting for
the Bengals defense.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
It sucks, but you got to play to the last second.
You can't let up even even when you feel like
the momentum shifted. So that would that would be how
I'm feeling right now is just play all the way through.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
And what was running through your head walking back to
the locker chase.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Probably the same as running through your head, like like
what the fuck?
Speaker 3 (11:03):
When does that emotion change to just anger?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
How differently the season could a look if people closed
out the last two weeks felt it just it just it.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Building between the offense and defense, at least from the outside.
What do you do as a leader on the team
of someone to kind of prevent that from happening.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Just don't turn on each other, like we we know
how they can play.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
They played really well at the start of the season,
Like we put the ball in the end zone and
go up a point at the end, finish the game,
like just end it.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Don't turn on each other except I'm still crapping on
him right now, dude, and Logan Wilson can't start for
that team. I mean, Jamar Chase could not even talk
to the media. He was just like, I don't know
what they say anymore. They're gonna give up fifty points.
We can put up forty. They are gonna give up
forty one no matter what. It's the franchises are the same.
(11:54):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
It was the exact same thing, but now the Cowboys
offense is terrible. Yeah, that's two straight weeks where the
offense has been bad.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
And I don't understand why. No, I don't either.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Jake Ferguson's awful. Last night.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
God, he had a bad game.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
And I would contend that his touchdowns are skewing how
good he's really been all year. He's got a bunch
of touchdowns and the stats are padded for a little bit,
and I'm like, he's not breaking tackles, he's not doing
a lot. So that was bad. And uh, you know,
Javonte Williams ran pretty hard, got that.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
And then he had a late fumble to seal.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I mean, like, fumble killed you.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Both of those fumbles were bad because theoretically it keeps
you within striking distance, but then you know the offense
is gonna the other team's offense is going to go
back out there.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
God rough sucks, all right. Yeah, I guys just say
I can't wait till five o'clock beause I want you
to hear what Jerry actually say yesterday at Texas Life.
It's crazy great, all.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Right, that's coming up at five o'clock. Don't miss that.
Coming up next. The senior meteorologists from WFA Jesse Jill Wheela,
joins us next right here on ninety seven point one
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