Cussin' The Cowboys: Episode 3 Review

Join Ben, Skin, KT, and Krystina as they discuss the 3rd episode of America's Team: The Gambler and His Cowboys

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
All Cowboy.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Surprise.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Episode three of America's Team The Gambler and His Cowboys
is entitled You Might be a Redneck? No, it's entitled
how about Them Cowboys? And we talked about one and
two and I watched three Pultz audio from it. We
know Jerry Jones, we've known him for a long time.
We know what he's about. But how do you become
that man? It's probably because of the things your dad

(00:39):
used to do growing up. Maybe that might be a
part of it. And that's what it is here. Here's
what Jerry's dad told him early on in life.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
I had a great teacher and my father, and when
I first bought the Cowboys, he called me on the
phone one morning and said, Cherry, Cherry, I've got writers
up here at my rash wanting to talk to me
about it.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
I can't believe notoriety.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
And he said, no, let me tell you something. You
gotta make it look like it works, whether it does
or not, by mirrors or smoke or wire. You've got
to look the part because if it doesn't work, you're
gonna be known as if you're the rest of your life, be.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
An actor, no matter what Jerry. That was the old
man version of fake it till you make it. I
guess exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
Did I think he's referring to that old thing duck
take mirrors and a fog machine. Yeah, but why you
gotta have a wire up there? It was he got
in real shaky territory when he put mirrors before smoke.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
You know what, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
That I would ever give my son that advice, you know, like,
hey son, you better not f this up. You're gonna
be a failure for the rest of your life. Everyone's
gonna laugh at you. Go fake it.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:49):
This is I love a lot of this stuff because
it is about this different era that I'm fascinated by
white Southern men back then all look twenty five years
older than they were.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
It's amazing they go.

Speaker 6 (02:01):
Here's twenty five year old Jerry by the side of
the pull. I'm like, that guy's fifty seven and he's
got a total dad bud and you know, he's got
the flat top with the receding hairline. But he is
going to put on the party Fedora. And so that footage,
I'm really enjoying that footage. Episode three does a lot
of time jumping, so we're gonna be kind of jumping

(02:23):
back and forth to the past and then to nineteen
ninety two because I pulled this only because it blew
my nuts off.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Before the nineteen.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Ninety two NFC Championship game, We're like, you know what,
let's have a PEP rally in town. Was it shocking
to y'all that there was a pep rally before the
championship game?

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, it did shock me.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
I didn't remember it, Like I didn't remember one hundred
thousand people coming to a Tom Landry parade, like what.

Speaker 7 (02:45):
You know.

Speaker 6 (02:45):
What's interesting too about this is they show us this
old footage is I don't remember specific details, but I
do remember this footage. Like there's a lot of footage
that they show us that I just remember from the
time period, and I don't remember the context I'm taking in,
But like the PEP rally, that footage of Troy running
out there, that felt like I was having flashbacks.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
Yeah, I'm having flashbacks on a lot of it too,
especially the game stuff like I can remember, like these
games meant so much to us. We're in our twenties,
you know, and we're watching every second of every game
and dialed in and it's life or death and your
team is contending. And this is the first time I've
gone back and like looked at this since then, but
I'm remembering, Oh, yeah, this is on the left.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Side of the field. This is this is what happens here.
There's a lot of dejevu. Here's the pep rally clip here.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
While in Texas studium Thursday, out of Cowboy rally attended
by it.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
That's the bed.

Speaker 8 (03:35):
It's seventy thousand fans giving Dallas a sunned off for
Sunday's NFC title game.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
The nineteen ninety two pep rally wasn't exactly common fair
for pro sports teams, but in this case, I was
trying to create a collegiate enthusiasm for the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
It was like a school PEP rally, only on a
huge scale.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
I even imagine what it gonna relate when we went
Fooper Bowl.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Now they have one thing to say to the forty nine.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
I couldn't get enough of just fans saying crazy stuff
throughout this whole thing, like he's gonna move the team
to Arkansas.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Man, the reactionary fans, they're great. It's a love them.
It is really fun.

Speaker 6 (04:20):
The editorial choice here of tying this particular game to
Jerry's upbringing is a really good version of storytelling because
they're showing you so many of the things that Jerry
does and how it ties together, and so at this point,
you know, we're three episods. This is the third episode.
If you go in chronological order, it's different. But if

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you go if you jump around in time like this.
They did this on the last dance. They jumped around
in time because when you get to something very significant,
going back twenty years and showing what informs it is
a great way to tell the story.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Let's talk about Paris roofing.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Let's jam out with our clam out and coming up next,
we'll tell you a little bit about wine Jerry is,
specifically the way he is, and some of his weird
early jobs.

Speaker 6 (05:06):
Next Ben and Skin Show ninety seven point one The Eagle.
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Speaker 1 (05:19):
Then, good luck everybody. We're in the middle of time.

Speaker 6 (05:22):
About episode three of The Gambler and his Cowboys. The
Cowboys docu series on Netflix and with more audio.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Here's Tizzle. Yes all this Stuf's taking you up to
the nineteen ninety two NFC Championship game Cowboys versus the
forty nine Ers. This is something about the field before
the game.

Speaker 9 (05:37):
We welcome you to Candlestick Park in foggy San Francisco,
but the major story is the wet and wild weather,
which is saturated in the May area. I was always
worried about weather going into a game because of the
fact that I just couldn't throw a wet ball.

Speaker 10 (05:53):
As not that Troy doesn't like a wet ball, he
can't throw a wet ball.

Speaker 8 (05:57):
And the field is like a series of landmines that
have on off.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
They're laying down horse trips of fresh sigh.

Speaker 8 (06:03):
Before the game, we want the entire field, and I
charted where it was good footing and poor footing.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Pretty great. That is pretty good.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
Come later, it does kind away, It does come back
in handy Lader, it does come back around, and I
was like, Wow, what a genius, look at him charting this.
But then when they show the overhead, you can tell
where the new grass is, Like, you didn't have to
chart it.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
You can just look out there.

Speaker 6 (06:27):
They immediately cut to Terry bradsh are going, look, here's
the backfield right here.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Hello, Terry Green, good yellow man. But it is, uh,
there is.

Speaker 6 (06:37):
Here's what we're learning to And we talked about this
earlier and things Akin is tracking. Either's the storytelling and
it's great, uh, but it's not always going to be
the right history. Sure, And so I don't think the
way they presented this. You know, they do a good job.
They show you Jerry, and then they show you George
c for going.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
I'm just a dumb coach. Iunn'll do nothing, you know.

Speaker 6 (06:59):
And it's like, okay, I'm sure George Seaffert was aware
of the field as the people came out and restted it.
But to tell the better story, Jimmy is a genius
and Seaffert's just driving around Dallas looking for a new house.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
That wet ball thing too, that I just remember that
so much. It was always, you know, try I can't
throw a wet ball. Yeah, like what that was North
Turner saying he literally can't throw it. It's not that
he doesn't like it, he can, And then they show
all these ducks coming out of his hand.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
He can't even throw it if it's wet. It's like
you don't even have an arm. I've labeled this clip
why Jerry is the way he is, so we'll see.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
My father had the typical grocery show. My dad was
one of the greatest marketers of all time. My parents
putting a bow tie on me and they'd say that, Jerry,
you greet those ladies and smile at them cutely. I
watched him put bandstands in the middle of a store,
and he'd have amateur talent context to do what I

(07:57):
let us. I'd go sleep and I hear those sounds
of commercial. So that's how my twig was made.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Growing up what okay, but don't say that, know what
it means.

Speaker 5 (08:12):
The picture of him as like what a three four
year old boy was really cund Let's they turn it
into Montana Max. It looked like alfredy Newman from Mad magazine. Yeah,
and he's just here's the cash register in his head
all day long.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
Ma, you put a bow tie a little Jerry, get
him out there to sell these proke trees. It's so
crazy to do what by letters, but it is funny.
It is uh and I don't know if you have
more audio to support this. But you know when they
start talking about the idea is what can I buy
that I can add all this sizzle to. I saw
my dad turn a cheap grocery store into a talent

(08:47):
show and it got It's just I drove traffic that
so it is really interesting to lay it all out
this way and see why he was so I have
to buy a football team because I can turn it
into this thing.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
There are some of Jerry's early jobs too. Oh, this
is very funny.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
In my early twenties, sold shoes out of catalogs. After
that got involved with the poultry business. I managed to
left handed cruiserweight and I had asked the Teamsters group
to finance me in ten pizza partners.

Speaker 11 (09:20):
I remember, you know, being an entrepreneur, being in the
mobile home business, some real estate stuff.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
Boy, it was great, tremendously successful, and he kind of
didn't ever know exactly what Dad did. And I got
real close to in the San Diego Chargers when I
was about twenty eight years old. When I was borrowing
money from the Teamsters, a connection helped me get a
visit with Jimmy Hoffer. Offer is a known organized crime

(09:48):
feature it did and served time in jail.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Just wanted a series of ganglan style murders.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
Jimmy Hoffer was one of the most feared names in America. Indeed,
basically said, we think we could be a part of
being in professional sports.

Speaker 7 (10:02):
Will back him?

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Gave you the money to buy a tin. Ultimately, when
I told my father, he was just frightened to no end.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
His dad was ready to kill him.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
Jers just I'm saying, what's going to happen when you
can't pay? What's going to happen when you don't have
an interest payment? What's going to happen there? And he
convinced me that test was not working, and I was shattered.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Did y'all know that the HAWF and stuff? I didn't.

Speaker 6 (10:30):
I knew all the San Diego Chargers stuff, but I
didn't know he was going to get the mafia to
finance it.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
I was like, this makes sense, Yeah, I did not.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
I knew he tried to buy the Chargers or whatever
thought about buying the Chargers. I'd always heard all that,
But no, I didn't know he was connected to Jimmy Hoffa.
I didn't know that he and the teamsters funded him
to buy a pizza chain in a mobile home business.
He managed a left handed cruiser weight like how you
just don't hear people say that, you know, what were
you doing back then?

Speaker 1 (10:57):
At that I was managing a left handed cruiser, right,
I'll selling shoes from the catalog what and the shoes
sucked apparently too.

Speaker 5 (11:04):
And I dabbled in the poultry business. Specific what that means.
That's all the money field dambles and everything. There's a
lot of things that makes sense. After I learned that
hoffa stuff, I was like, oh yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
All right.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
Coming up next Part three of our analysis of episode
three of America's Team, The Gambler and his Cowboys. We
continue next, but now we continue with part three of
our breakdown of episode three of the new Netflix docu
series America's Team the Gambler and his Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Here's kat yeah, episode three here, where the Cowboys and
forty nine ers are meeting up in the nineteen ninety
two NFC Championship game. Clearly, Charles Haley is a big storyline.
We talked about this on yesterday's show. You can get
all of our shows on the free iHeart Radio app,
and this is kind of a big part about Charles
Haley now playing for the Cowboys.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
Haley was considered a problem for the San Francisco forty
nine ers.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
He was moody and inconsistent.

Speaker 11 (11:57):
Well, he's still a problem for the forty nine, but
now he is on the other side of the line.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Charles was suffering from a condition. Charles was particularly difficult.
I remember, hey, rom he's in the back of the meeting.
We're pleasuring himself. He got to be honest. Ninety five percent,
and that's what they were saying was true. But that
five percent kissed me the hell off.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
They're making him take pills. They were saying that he is,
you know, he's mentally bipolar. He's yeah, but what were
they saying though they were giving him some true.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
Medication, He says, they were medicating him for something. They
weren't telling him himself, the diagnosis. Yeah, because they were
scared to tell him.

Speaker 6 (12:35):
But they were, according to Charles, they were telling him
he was taking anti inflammatories.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
Now I don't trust anything, he says. Yeah, now he
was here, I would say I trust everything he says implicitly.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
But that that dude is wild.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
He is.

Speaker 6 (12:51):
He's probably the wildest dude we've ever covered, because Ben
and I have Adam in the studio and all that stuff,
and I like, I don't know that we cover Tyson,
but we did do a show with Tyson.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
But Hayley's just same energy, same energy, Yeah, same energy.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
I remember hosting one of those Cowboys shows years ago,
and it's basically a players show or then it was
like a then one day like Cowboys people on, but
also we're gonna throw in like a Cowboys legend in
there too. I remember one of them who died just
thought it was the legend show and just kind of
in every break heckling me like come on, man, asked

(13:29):
me about it, and I'm like, dude, I've been told
not to talk about the seventies.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Like I've been told like not to do that. You're
we're talking about the Eagles game this week. I forgot
who it was, but it's like a Hall of Famer
type guy, and he with us now that he died
in the last five or six years. Sad to see
that that was my memory of it, but I should know.
But we'll do a pub Keep in mind whend I
said that I am a lifelong Packers fan too. It's
my historical knowledge on the Cowboys is not great. Would

(13:54):
you like talk about the passing of Reggie White? I
would not, so.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
My point was, I remember we had to one time
move Uh there was a girl on the on the
set kind of like you know, we're going to move
her to the end of the table, just to just
to keep her away from Charles.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Wow. Not because Charles had done anything. You just don't
know the implication. Yeah, and it felt like he was
a little flirty. It was, uh, it was just like, yeah,
you know what he is.

Speaker 6 (14:21):
The guy that was that you would interview, that was
most likely to nut check you for no reason.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
It was kind of like a wild animal, like like
you can't predict what it's going to do. There's no
you're not on common ground to be able to predict
what their future behavior is going to be.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
So this is halftime of that NFC Championship game and
they are tied, but then Jerry starts talking about his
time in Arkansas too.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
At halftime, it was apparent this thing was going to
be a Bears ass and I knew it was going
to come down.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Come on, this game was going to be a Bears ass.
I've never heard that it's great, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
I've never heard straighten my twig or what said my twig,
my twig.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
This thing was going to be a Bears agis, and
I knew it was going to come down to coaching.
But I believed in Jimmy because I'd say them win.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Jerry and I were roommates.

Speaker 8 (15:13):
His name started with Jay, started with Ja, So that's
how they put us together.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
For Jerry tell us about the big win against Technics.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
Of course, we thought we had a real good come
back out of here against Texas. I think they gave
the seniors a lot of ammunition in their own lines.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
And hearts to year said anytime it's him talking from
back in the day. I had to pull it because
and he looks forty five years old.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, crazy boys.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
I still don't know if either one of them played
at all, Like if they ever got in He was
a co captain for one game or something.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
I'm like, was he I.

Speaker 6 (15:46):
Think his senior year? Unless I heard it wrong, I
mean it was one game.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
I well, I still I mean, so was he one
of their best players? Did he play?

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Is he? I have no idea, So.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
It says Jimmy played Jimmy jump up, but Jerry let
says this cocaine. There's not a lot of talks about
because there's no stats for his position to either.

Speaker 6 (16:09):
Yeah, they're both linemen and according to the pictures they
showed us, they spent time on the offensive and defensive
line on back then.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
That's pretty common though, right is it? I don't know,
and I don't and I know there was times where
it felt like he was a walk.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
On right, Like I don't know, I don't know, but hey,
they won, so you know, they get to talk about it.
Uh look, let's go ahead and pause and bow our head, okay,
and when we come back, we'll talk about Jimmy's big gamble,
Michael Irvin go and Rogue and much more.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
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Speaker 6 (16:53):
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Speaker 1 (17:05):
The thing's big, all.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Right, still wrapping up episode three tomorrow, will do episode four.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
You guys go with that. Yeah, I did take in
episode four this morning. Have you seen it? Benny? I
have five?

Speaker 6 (17:18):
Oh you've seen five? Or I've seen five? Okay, I'm
gonna do five to nine. Where are you at, Christina?

Speaker 1 (17:23):
I just finished four last night. God, y'all areroll ahead.
It's just so good, you can It's just so good.
It's one of the best things I've ever seen.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
And I think it's just because it's a docu series
about one of the things that's most important in my life.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
No, And I think that's like, I mean, I'm enjoying
all the stuff that happened that I have always known
a little bit about but can't remember any of it
because I was four.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah, a lot of this, you know.

Speaker 6 (17:46):
But I would say, you know, even the age that
me and Benner had, I feel like they're giving us
new wrinkles on stuff that we've known about.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Well, wait till you watch episode four, because that one
knocked my socks off.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
So let's finish up episode three though. So where we're
at is again.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
This is an episode that bounces around from a timeline
perspective a lot. So we go back to the NFC
Championship game. It was tied at halftime, it's the Cowboys
of the forty nine ers. The forty nine ers now
led by Steve Young, but have been very good for
a long time. So they're the big dogs right now.
And you got a chance to knock them off. And
the Cowboys got up to a twenty four to thirteen lead,

(18:23):
and they've got the ball in Jimmy's lag. Hey, Jerry
talks about how much he gambles all the time. Look
at these nuts.

Speaker 9 (18:31):
Cowboys lead it twenty four thirteen, fourth down and about.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Maybe a yard. Jemmy Johnson real propably kicked the field goal.
Jimmy looked up and said, we start a touchdown. Let's
hope this time the game b Hollway.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
Johnson is second pass all away out to his brain.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Kind of a cocky move. Why wouldn't they kick the
field goal?

Speaker 6 (18:55):
And the forty Niners will skip brown E eleven with
seven oh six.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
I love the brad Sham call. Jimmy Johnson will be
second guest all the way to his grave. And Bill
Romanowski sounds like a guy from Jackass.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Well, did you guys ever watch any of Sex in
the City. Yeah, okay, I remember watching the first episode
expecting it to be softcore porn. Uh huh, and then
highly disappointed.

Speaker 6 (19:23):
There is a there's a one of the Ladies Net
shows a redheaded pasty gal.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
I think Anthia Nixon.

Speaker 6 (19:29):
Yeah, I think her show name was Miranda. I think
now Miranda was the Slutties. Okay, I can't remember what
Cynthia Nixon's character was, but for a while she was
married to a.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Guy did just like Romanowski. Do you remember him being yeah, yeah,
dog like this. You're right it was Miranda. Okay, look
it up, just because I remember him going, man, we're
all ready to play part cheesy.

Speaker 6 (19:56):
When I'm watching Romanowski, all I can picture is that
character from that damn s shoh.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
He has had a lot of head injuries, by the way.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
So he doesn't kick the field goal to go at
twenty seven thirteen. I thought, back in the nineties, good
coaches did everything by the books, and things happened a
certain way. There's twenty four to thirteen, forty hours, get
the ball back, they go score, so it's twenty four
to twenty now, oh boy, cowboys, get the ball back,
and if they don't score, do something with this or
get a first down.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
The forty nine ers are gonna get it, and it
feels that the forty hours are gonna win. So what
do you do? I ain't call of play, and then
Michael Irvin goes rogue.

Speaker 9 (20:29):
So now the play comes in.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
I've went to alt and spot. I do a good board.
He hadn't thrown the ball over at the whole game.

Speaker 8 (20:37):
I'm looking at Glenda screamage, Michael screwed up the formation,
and Troy twenty I sill right that damn pray.

Speaker 9 (20:44):
So when I'm going to the line, Alvin's now over
here to my left, I'm looking at a coverage the
Niners hadn't shown before, and so I'll never forget it.
I'm thinking to myself, do I trust Alvin on this route.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
He's gonna throw?

Speaker 8 (21:04):
He threw the flank where it was tour footing and
their defensive back switched.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Oh my god, man, I'm supposed.

Speaker 8 (21:13):
To make left football.

Speaker 9 (21:16):
Alvin's running down the field. Michael was trailing behind Alvin
and he's yelling, that was my ball.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
That ball? Did you know that story?

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Ben?

Speaker 4 (21:30):
No?

Speaker 5 (21:31):
I mean I knew they switched. I knew they switched,
but I didn't know. He ran down the field and yelled,
that was my ball. I love that that's what he's
focused on in that moment. It's amazing he's happy, but
also that should be he's.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Throwing up the touchdown side, but he's pissed at the
same time.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
And so you know, he's clearly their number one, and
so he went over there. This is going over here
every play. I want the ball. It just so happens
to go the other way. But I I didn't, you know,
Troy Aikman sitting in there saying I had to. I'm
sitting here asking do I trust him on this out?

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah? God, Leo, what's Alvin Harper and his family's supposed to?

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Look, they're showing my play. Oh wait what you didn't
even know if I could run the route?

Speaker 6 (22:07):
You know what I do remember, And this is all
hindsight stuff. And obviously Harper's not in this thing. If
they're not showing him already, maybe he's later, but he
signed a deal to go elsewhere Washington, Washington, okay. And
I remember being upset at the time because, oh my god,
Alvin Harper is so great. I just didn't know that
Harper was great because no one was paying attention to him,

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and we never missed him really. You know, it was
like no big deal that he was gone, but back
then it felt like it felt like something really bad
that we were losing Alvin Harper.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
And it also shows you, I mean, I couldn't help
but try to modernize this so key series. Ceedee Lamb
comes in and tells Dak, Hey, man, I'm switching to
play like I just I don't think you see that
very often maybe on teams that have bad quarterbacks. But
Troy wasn't the guy yet. Michael had been there, you know,
two years more than Troy had.

Speaker 6 (22:58):
So you know what else so too that, man, football
is way more complex than it was back then. Dude.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Yeah, they were showing the routes and I was like, oh.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
Yeah, and it was just those routes. No adjustments to
those routes or anything.

Speaker 6 (23:12):
You just you go to the line of scravage and go, okay,
there's the leverage.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
I'm going here.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
I was like, man, this is a they were talking
about too. And I didn't play this, but how North
Turner is like, ideally you would run the ball on
first down, and a lot of people don't think that's
the right thing to do because if you throw it,
it's incompletely stops the clock.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
And I was like, yeah, we know all of that
back then. Crazy.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
And I remember watching a Super Bowl and this is
probably three years after this. It was the Packers and Patriots,
and the Packers were up by two scores and Bill
Parcells is the coach of the Patriots. There's like nine
minutes left in the game, and the Patriots have like
a fourth and three and they're punting.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Like nowadays, if you were down by two scores and
it was fourth and three, you would absolutely go for it,
no matter where you were on the field because you're
still in the game. And back then it was like
no game's over by fourteen. Okay.

Speaker 6 (24:03):
I have only seen three episodes, so if this is already,
I don't know what's happened by the time you guys
are where you are. But are you aware of what
Barry Switzer did on load left. It's gonna happen three,
It's gonna be in the series going to.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Cover it because he's three.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Barry Switcher's not in episode four, okay, but he will
be in episode five.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Here's why I.

Speaker 6 (24:24):
Want to bring this up, because you were talking about
back then you went for the field goal no matter
what three years later, when Barry Switzer is the coach,
he ran the same play three straight times. It was
emittt Smith Load Left. It was a running play, and
he ran it on like fourth and two from their
own thirty. And that was like the pinnacle of my god,

(24:46):
this is the worst thing ever.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
I can't believe Jimmy's gone.

Speaker 6 (24:48):
I mean, he'd already had all these other things go wrong,
but at some point I would imagine they're gonna get
into load Left because it was a it was like
a crazy controversy at the time.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Out Lena Ann was still trying that in twenty seventeen,
crazy man Jerry Rice, whom Michael Irvin you talked about idolizing.
So I thought it was kind of cool to get
old Jerry Rice in here, just talking about the real
reason he thinks the forty nine ers lost.

Speaker 10 (25:15):
Trading Charles hated to the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 11 (25:18):
But I still say today that was the worst mistake
we ever made.

Speaker 9 (25:23):
And I'll never forget Jimmy gets up there and starts.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
Talking man and anything else.

Speaker 9 (25:30):
Not gonna say is what he's said at that moment.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
It just captured it all. Oh oh god, damn, who
got killed the fire a shot at Jerry. All right,
so tomorrow we will do episode four. Mill that's just

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winning the NFC Championship game.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
They're acting like they won the super Bowl because they
knew they were going to crush the Bills. It seems like, yeah,
but in episode four things get wild. And I'm just
previewing tomorrow's show because we're gonna discuss this at the
five o'clock hour tomorrow. EMT's holdout and how that compares
to Michael Parsons holdout right now, it's so similar.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
It's it's so similar. We didn't just win a super
Bowl except that part. Now, except that part.

Speaker 5 (26:23):
You're right, yeah, but it's hard not to look at
the way Jerry is behaving in these situations and just realize, Yeah,
I just extrapolate that over the you know, the whole run,
the last thirty years, since ninety five or whatever. Every
single one of these things has the same energy, the
same mentality, the same approach because it's the same guy.

Speaker 6 (26:42):
Do you know a clip I really liked Ben, And
I don't know if it made a difference to you
or not, but after the wind, Jerry is heading down
the tunnel and Jimmy comes running behind him and puts
his arm around him and like almost tackles him into
the mud. And I really liked seeing that because you
don't know when Jimmy started hating Jerry, you know, and

(27:04):
it became so horrible.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Like Learning episode four. Yeah, yeah, but see they were
still close.

Speaker 5 (27:09):
Yeah, And dude, I'll never forget asking someone in the
Rangers organization they'd gone to back to back world series
and I was like, oh my god, this is year
to a young team, back to back world series. It's
gonna be good for a long time. And I asked somebody, like,
what what could hurt this? Like what could stop this?
This is going to be a dynasty, right, and they
were like, ego. Ego's the biggest problem that could stop

(27:30):
us if people start worrying about who gets what credit
for what success. That's exactly what this was their friends
on the way up, when they're building it together. Once
it was successful as a battle to see who got
the most respect and appreciation for it.

Speaker 6 (27:44):
And it was all ego a downfall as old as time.
We'll get into it tomorrow. I'll never forget the time
KT looked himself and his ego in the mirror, and
he said, after being a good girl for so long,
I'm in my sluty era. And that's when he knew
he desired himself. Christina, are you gonna stick around? Play
some music?

Speaker 1 (28:02):
I am scared. We got Christina till ten o'clock right
here on the eagle.

Speaker 7 (28:05):
Here you going, well, I'm gonna get my sack back, dude.

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