August 25, 2025 • 30 mins
The gang breaks down Episode 5 of America's Team: The Gambler and his Cowboys on Netflix. The dirty details of the divorce between Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson, as well as the hiring of Barry Switzer.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Fallous Cowboy surprise.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I feel like Jerry and Jimmy's egos were hurt and
they felt like it wasn't their fault, so they should
have called the Frinkles. The h cut. The Cowboys is
going to take a look at episode five of America's
Team The Gambler and His Cowboys the Netflix series. Episode
five is coming off the great tease from episode four
(00:38):
where they discussed the owners meeting, where Jerry tells the
reporters don't go to bed yet, you're gonna miss the
story of the year because he's about to fire Jimmy Johnson.
And so we're going into the early nineties clearly, and
I'm gonna start out with this clip Jerry talking about
his cancer treatment though that he had a few years back.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I had some cancer treatment.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
My doctor's there at MDASH and said, you need to
do a lot of meditation. Make a list of ten people,
people who can just boil your blood. Start with to
one at the very tom and wish them greatest things.
Must make some wish one and at number one I
wrote down the name Jimmy Johnson. Went back to my
(01:21):
doctor a few weeks later and I told her I
can't get past that first month's.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Funny, and it's so funny.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
I can't get past that first dame at first I've never.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Heard that in meditation, I wish your enemies the best.
Speaker 7 (01:40):
I think the idea is I could be wrong about this,
but you are releasing the negative energy.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Okay, you must have had a lot of that going
on there.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
You have all this negative energy for all these people,
and they're like, go, take all these people you have
negative energy towards and wish them the absolute best, and
it's going to be a release positivity. Yeah, he kind
of had a lobotomy left.
Speaker 8 (02:01):
He did man first month?
Speaker 6 (02:07):
Oh man, yep, all.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Right, So here we go. He's gonna do it? How
is he gonna do it? He's really gonna fire the
coach that just won two back to back Super Bowls
for it, the guy that you put in place you
get credit for that.
Speaker 7 (02:20):
There's trouble at the top of America's team.
Speaker 9 (02:23):
A long running feud between Jimmy Johnson and team owner
Jerry Jones finally exploded today. Who's going to fire a
guy who just won back to back Super Bowls?
Speaker 10 (02:31):
This was Jerry's rejection that was talking. It was not
alcohol that was speaking.
Speaker 7 (02:35):
Jimmy has released a statement, I'm deeply hurt that after
five years.
Speaker 10 (02:39):
Of total commitment to the rebuilding of the Cowboys, I
haven't treated in this way. In Jerry's mind, this team
was so talented, the team that he was a general
manage that anybody could have coached his team who championed Joe.
Speaker 8 (02:51):
He wanted more credit.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
How can you say five hundred coaches when you only
have had one.
Speaker 11 (02:57):
Jim Jimmy's not going to those Jerry's not stood enough
to let him.
Speaker 12 (03:01):
Foy Aikman said he might not have signed his eight year,
fifty million dollar contract if he knew that Jimmy Johnson's
future was in doubt.
Speaker 11 (03:08):
I could not understand. How to hell are we taking
a car to the shop that was not broken.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
For anyone who's saying that this is a big fluff
piece for Jerry and it might end up that way.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
I haven't finished it yet, man. That is damning.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
A lot of stuff has been There's more negative stuff
about Jerry in here that I even thought would get
in this thing. Yeah, Michael Irvins in there, Tom, He's
not stupid enough to do this like that is crazy.
Speaker 7 (03:37):
Yeah, this is this is the moment that egos got involved,
and you know everything was going well, They started horribly.
He fires Tom Landry, he gets Jimmy, They finally start
putting the draft picks together, They get Norp Turner, they
start solving a lot of these issues. Then they build
a super team, go back to back, and then egos
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get involved. That's the moment that it all unraveled for
the Cowboys. Granted, they still won another super Bowl and
we'll talk about that, but that's the moment it unraveled,
and it's still unraveled that Jerry's ego is still the
reason that this is not a serious football organization. It's
a great business, it's a great marketing brand, but they're
not serious when it comes to football.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Are you enjoying all this, Christina?
Speaker 5 (04:22):
I'm loving it. But that headline that they mentioned in there,
I could not believe he actually said that. I'm like,
you actually said it was like five hundred coaches to
coach this team to the Super Bowl. Jimmy's horror, and
then Jimmy starts crying about it when he brings it
back up. I'm like, dude, the audacity of you, like,
go screw yourself.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
I can't believe it, and we're a lot more to
get to. Jeffy.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I think way less of Jerry and Jimmy right watching
all of this.
Speaker 8 (04:48):
Yeah, honestly, I don't.
Speaker 7 (04:52):
Know you talk about Michael Irvin too how we feel
about him. But I feel the worst for Troy Aikman honestly.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
You know, I saw someone else talking about this too,
like it was a cowboy fan you know what this
is on, sir. I was watching our friends this certain
to Surroy, their little live cast that they do, and
it was funny because Mike Siroy goes, dude, because Danny
was kind of you know, I'm gonna say flack of
an order. Dame's kind of crapping on it, and Mike goes,
I'm a Dolphins fan. We would kill to have anything
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made about us, Yeah, or to just show up at
a super Bowl like they haven't done anything in my lifetime.
And that was an interesting perspective to look at it too.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Well.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
We come back more on the divorce, what really hurt
Jimmy and what Jerry's wife said.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
When Jerry made the move to fire Jimmy.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
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more on that, here's kat.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I've had to make some tough editorial decisions on this,
but I'm really enjoying the old news footage and things
like that too, so I'm leaving some stuff in there
they just found to be interesting.
Speaker 6 (06:19):
So here's a little more on Jimmy and Jerry's divorce.
Speaker 8 (06:22):
We gonna be your coach drink.
Speaker 13 (06:23):
What visit about that is? We go along with week I.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Said, you're the best at this, Dad.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
You can sit down with Jimmy and smooth it all out.
Speaker 12 (06:32):
By two o'clock Johnson was headed toward Jerry Jones's.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Office, where the two would meet for the next two
hours and thirty minutes.
Speaker 8 (06:39):
I mean, I really felt like they'd work it out.
Speaker 14 (06:41):
And I picked up the paper the next morning the
headline with Sid Jones says my way or the highway.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
And so the minute we saw each other that next morning,
we said said and go war.
Speaker 13 (06:53):
We have mutually decided that I would no longer be
the head football coach with the doll Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I think it's a prop Well, I think it sucks
that Jerry just wouldn't fire him.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
We have to have a big meeting and have a mutually.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Parting of the ways because Jerry would have to take
on that responsibility and blame. But if you do that,
you're putting yourself onto the coals again. But like, show
some balls, dude. And I'm not saying Jerry theres balls.
God knows he got to where he is by having
some balls, making some risky decisions. But right there, if
(07:33):
you really feel that way, then just fire him.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
Right But you're saying because Jimmy got out there and
they said we mutually decided to part way.
Speaker 6 (07:41):
Yeah, now they're going to contract stuff there.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
Maybe I bet it had to do with that. It
also could have been a non disclosure. I don't know,
like what what benefit. I guess it gets complicated because
if you want to get paid out on a contract,
you can't say I quit.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
But we know now that Jerry pushed him out.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
I mean, for sure, tell from his face in that
press conference you just played, Jimmy's just sitting there like this,
like he's miserable.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, and he would have been miserable if he stayed though,
and yeah he says that.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Goose Goslin of the Dallas Morning News, longtime football reporter,
Here's what really really cut Jimmy deep.
Speaker 10 (08:18):
He mortgaged his future. He brought in Jimmy Johns, which
people ridicule. Ben the team goes one and fifteen, all
the criticism is directed at Jerry Jones, and he just
stood there and took all those things and narrows. And
now when they start winning, Jimmy's getting all the credit
and Jerry's kind of in the background not getting any credit.
He couldn't he couldn't live with that.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
It's good perspective to have because Jerry all the stuff
that he did that we covered in the first couple episodes. Absolutely,
I mean everyone's trash talking him, calling him country bumpkin, redneck.
No one likes you. Go away, you fired Tom Landry
were having a preyed for him, and then they sucked
you for two years. Like Jimmy didn't have to wear
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any that right.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
Neither one of them wanted to share it. No, they
both wanted to ball hug all the credit.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
There's a childish scene I was thinking of the other day.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
The whole thing is child Your team is winning super Bowls?
Who cares about who gets credit for it.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
There's a moment where Jerry's got the super Bowl Trophy
and Jimmy is up there with it and Jimmy goes,
I need a new ring.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
And they're like competing over like, well, look what I'm
going to get now? And look at I'm gonna get
and it's like, God.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Did you see him take it from Jimmy. Jerry just
like like, oh, you can tell right there, there's already
an issue.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Well they edited out and we'll get to it old
air when Jerry takes the trophy away from Switzer and
it was edited out of this documentary because that was
famous back then.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
He pulls it away from him.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
It's crazy, dysfunctional. But I think the worst part is
going back and looking all this and what an embarrassment
of riches it was at the time, and to know
that it's been a thirty year drought.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
It's crazy.
Speaker 8 (09:56):
So it's soul crushing, and it all starts right here.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
All starts right here. I said up the last one wrong.
That last one was like, what really hurt Jerry? This
is actually what really hurt Jimmy.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
The one thing that hurt me.
Speaker 14 (10:06):
Five hundred coaches could have coached that team to a
super Bowl and maybe they couldn't. But I take a
lot of pride in putting together that team. And when
you diminished that, that hurt me.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Shame on me. I grew careless. It wasn't like I
wasn't trying to finger through it.
Speaker 13 (10:21):
If we don't look out, we'll take one of the
greatest stories that's ever been told in sports, and we'd
take all the positives of that.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
We'd take. They're no negatives when you really look at it.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Watch me at this drive.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Okay, that was a good thing to me because he
was about to say it. It's amazing how not media
savvy they were back then too. I mean I talked
about I think last week the press conference where Jimmy
basically was about to throw the team under the bus
for not getting over him and its hold out, and
he's like, I thought my guys would, Oh boy, I
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dude's aimable offenser right there in these days. But right there,
Jerry was about to say it, if we're not careful,
we're gonna ruin these good times by not being able
to get along, and he stops himself. I'm gonna play
this again because it's important to change what he was
gonna say.
Speaker 13 (11:14):
Yeah, we'll take one of the greatest stories that's ever
been told in sports, and we'd take all the positives
of that.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
We'd take they're no negatives when you really look at it.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
He was about to say, we'll take all the positives
of it, and we won't.
Speaker 8 (11:27):
Look at the neck. He nearly said it.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, kind of shocking, Yeah, because oh whatever, I don't
know what age had happened two thousand and nine.
Speaker 8 (11:36):
Now a new head coach gets hired.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
He's sweaty, and he thanks all the people at the
front desk or the Jets coach who was chasing the
taco because someone put a taco and made it fly
around because he couldn't focus, and he had crazy eyes
like any any small thing that you do. And now
like back then too, they had more personality, you know why,
because they weren't like putting football prison by iPhones and
(12:03):
social media like nowadays, everyone's just careful when they say
generic stuff. This is good. There's not a lot of
Gene in this. By the way, Jeane, what a catch? Yeah,
pretty good looking, like Jerry out kicked his coverage by
a lot. And we saw them in college like we
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saw the folks. Yeah, okay, here's what Gene said. When
Jerry gets back into bed.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
I come home that night and get into bed, Jean's
laying there. She says, you just can't help it, can you.
You just can't live with good going good said, you
just can't do it. Said here we are one two
super Bowls and you walk out there and make a
change with the coach. You just can't handle some solid,
(12:50):
really good taps.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Now. I usually say that smiling and laughing at her.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
I don't know why right now that I'm getting sensitive
about it, just tearing up.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
Yeah, perspective, right, I've liked a whole episode on gene. Yeah,
all right, let's let's keep it going. This is episode
five America's Team, The Gambler and his Cowboys, the Netflix
docu series. Will keep it going next, don't go anywhere
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Speaker 8 (13:20):
And with more on that, here's kat.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yes, so you fired Jimmy Johnson, but Jerry is a
marketing genius and you can't deny that because he went
ahead and made a call to Barry Switzer, and the
headlines the next day were just that. This is also
the most graphic part of this documentary where you see
a man's butt whole whoa what I think a whole
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the colonoscope scene.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
I couldn't believe was a series that right too much.
Speaker 8 (13:51):
You didn't need that too much.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
But here's what Switcher's b hole looks like.
Speaker 9 (13:54):
The artful thing that Jerry did in all of this
was the story of the Dallas Morning News the next day,
Barry Switz to do Cowboys head coach.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I remember, just because I'd had a cold NASCAR me
that morning. When I got home, the phone rings Jerry
Jones wants to talk to you, and Jerry said, you
want to coach Cowboys? I said, I know, jamn job.
He is open. He said what's going to be open?
And I said, well, Ones hoping to get me caught.
That's my interview five years ago. I said, we will
win with the new head coach.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Barry Switzers absolutely got the higher.
Speaker 14 (14:27):
Barry Swizzer was a Towys Jimmy from.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Jimmy the Switzer had been a longtime college coach and
then bitter rivals with Jimmy during those college days. This
kind of makes sense now Barry knew what was going
to happen before all this.
Speaker 8 (14:46):
This is okay.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
This is one problem if you were poking holes in
this thing, is what was the accuracy on the specific
dates of that owner's meeting, how it went down when
he told Edward and the other media members stick around,
going to make a big move here. But when he
called Switcher the first time I think was three or
four days before that. Oh, now they they set it
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up in this documentary as Jerry got offended when Jimmy
went and toasted you know, and I don't know. I
think Barry knew because Barry was like, I can't like
take the job right now, or you know, Barry was like, uh,
because Barry had been retired.
Speaker 8 (15:24):
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Speaker 7 (15:25):
So so Barry was really call if it really happened
after the toasting thing and after he fired Jimmy, he
wouldn't have said, called me when it's open.
Speaker 8 (15:32):
It was opening at that point.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
But maybe Jerry did call him the day after that
toast and all that he made the decision, because like
he just fired him the next day. You know, there's
still a time in between that. But there's something there's
a timeline there that I think we might have a
whole but I don't know. Boy wild opening press conference
with old Barry Switzer. Boy, this is an energetic guy here. Again,
he had been retired for five years. Okay, So this is
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like if the Cowboys got rid of Shody. Okay, they
got rid of the car, and then they just took
a guy who'd been sitting out for five years. You know,
it's not that different if they have gotten I mean,
Nick Saban was a name we had did toss round.
That's two years retired, I think with successful college coach
who'd been out of the game, for a while though,
that would be kind of interesting. But this is the
wild opening presser.
Speaker 9 (16:17):
Barry Switzer had had been retired for five years, never
even really aspired to coach in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
We've got a job to do, and we gonna duck.
Speaker 9 (16:26):
Maybe you want me to prove that five hundred guys
could win the Super Bowl with this team. Jimmy, I'm
gonna hire the guy who's least.
Speaker 8 (16:34):
Likely to do it. Yeah, Michael Irvin was visibly agitated.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Probably you brought in a guy that never coached at
that level.
Speaker 8 (16:42):
Jerry's a bad guy here, right, Jimmy's a good guy.
I read the paul on the paper today.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I hope I can do as good a job as
Jimmy Johnson. That's what you're hoping.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
And that's damn sure what you're hoping. That's time here.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
God, the cocaine must have been going on, Like holy cow.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
It was the exact opposite of Jimmy.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
Jimmy was like this football genius and he had turned
this thing around back to back, you know, super bowls,
and here this guys who's retired. He's kind of a
clown at this point in his career. You know, he
was a great college coach. He's been out of the
game for a long time, and here he is just
juggling with clown makeup on.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
It's pretty awesome, though.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Do you have audio of him and Dale Hanson?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I do, that's next, but yeah, yeah, Dale Hanson at
Channel eight for many many years, a big, powerful figure
in this town.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
And he's hanging out with Switzer.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Michael Herby took all the players out on the town
one night and they were out partying all night long.
Speaker 8 (17:38):
I said, don't you guys have a curfew?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Hey, Switzer is the coach who cares you. So we
get to the practice field the next day, you could
tell everybody just hung over. Like Gracie, Barry just buses
Wistorm said, boys, go hit the pool.
Speaker 11 (17:52):
Barry just believe every man should be able to take
care of himself.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
And I'm not asked sure what Davis thought he should
have been the head coach. Joe, I don't thought he
should have been the head coach. They were sniping behind
his back and next thing I know, he's punching me
in the armity. I'm like, what's just goofy, some bitch
doing what the boss is And I am the boss.
Speaker 12 (18:11):
You know what, because I came to Ballast.
Speaker 8 (18:13):
With money than Timmy left with.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
I mean, god, it looked like it hurt too. Dale, Like, okay, man,
like stop punching me in the arm.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
You beat the crap out of it.
Speaker 7 (18:25):
It's such a it's such a fed up deal because
when you made that switch from Jimmy to Barry, it
was almost like a substitute teacher was there. Yeah, and
you know you could act up be a clown like
they lost one hundred percent of discipline when they lost Jimmy.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
Yeah, no, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I'm on to one day find that old ten minute
interview with Barry Switzer and Dale Hanson and then run
it through AI and see what happened.
Speaker 8 (18:51):
Oh, it's a good idea.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Coming up next though, let's talk about the the guys
are having fun now because Jimmy's not cracking the whip.
And then this documentary does address the White House, the
famous White House and Valley Ranch, and let's see if
they did it justice. Well that next, all right, that's
coming up next. All right, it is the Been and
Skin Show wrapping up a Monday. Hope everyone's taking advantage
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of this cool front. How about that he's at the high.
Tomorrow is gonna be in the upper eighties.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Oh, I love it.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Good time to get outside, roll your shorts up, get
a little extra tan above the kneecaps if you like.
We're discussing episode five of the Netflix documentary. Tomorrow we
will do episode six. So there's your homework assignment for tonight.
Knock out episode six and enjoy it with us tomorrow
during the five PM hour.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
It was a juicy one.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
But right now, as we continue on, I will play
the intro because I like the intro, because I like to.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Finish kill.
Speaker 8 (19:56):
This thing's big skin.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
Will be back tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Should much more smooth coming in the segments in the
back part of the hour.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Much smooth. Much more smooth is good too.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
Though there's you know, goo ahead.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
So look, Jerry's gone, Barry Switzer's in, and Barry Switzer's
attitude is a I've been retired for five years. Holy hell,
I'm the coach of the Dallas Cowboys. What It's pretty awesome.
But the grown man, the ideals are in, Like, you
are a professional?
Speaker 8 (20:32):
Can you be ready to play on Sunday?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
I don't care what you do during the week, as
long as you're ready to go on Sundays.
Speaker 8 (20:38):
You're good. You guys have won two.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Super Bowls back to back. You don't need meat crawling
up there. You're not gonna learn anything from me crawling
up there. So they're having a lot of fun, and
Troy's pretty much the only one who's not happy about that.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
It seems they took over the strip clubs.
Speaker 11 (20:55):
We had our pigs at enjoying.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
It's beautiful specimens.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
God has praised on his beautiful cops knew players without
question how to pass cherryhead guys.
Speaker 11 (21:06):
To make sure that you know, whenever things came up,
they would catch before it became something.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
And I knew how to call the fixtures. If I
got locked.
Speaker 11 (21:15):
Up two or three times, I mean I got to
let loose maybe one hundred times.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
There was this one night I wasn't drunk, but I
had a few and I see this cop card come
from behind, then gets in front of me.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
Turn left because his blade is on the turn left
to make a right turn. He makes a right turn,
goes rapped by in front of my garage.
Speaker 8 (21:33):
Dude, you just got escort at home.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
By the cops talking about doing bad things.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Yeah, it kind of it made me worried for a
lot of those guys just straight up and meeting like yeah,
I like drink and then drove home like Jesus Gars Rhythm.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I left all this out, but the Eric Williams situation, yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
That I was too young to really remember all that,
but I.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
Still think about it every time I drive there. At
six or five in the toll way, I see a
mark up against the wall. Used to see it, but
I still think about that.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Gosh, so they're having a good time and there's not
a lot of checks and balances going on right now.
It's kind of you guys, do your thing. You up
to practice. If you do show up to practice hungover,
we will send you to the pool like there's no fun.
It's pretty awesome.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Also, you may get to this guy, but the guy
that bailed him out of everything, like he was not
their publicist but kind of the the fixer. That's what
it was.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I don't know if there's audio of them, there's The
next clip is about the White House. Okay, the famous
house where they had parties, which honestly, you don't want
us going out to the clubs drinking and driving.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
Okay, let's get a house.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
They got a party house over there at Valley Ranch,
which I did look up is still there and it
is labeled on Zillo as a historical landmark.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
What what?
Speaker 6 (22:50):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (22:51):
Are you serious?
Speaker 6 (22:51):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Who would want to buy that? After watching this?
Speaker 6 (22:54):
As they put the address on there? And I think
it's a Dorset drive.
Speaker 12 (22:57):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
In fact, let me see address of the White House
in Irving. Yeah, it's it says the Cowboys White House
or something like that. And I think it's got Michael
Irvin's name on it on the DNA and the sea
there one fifteen door set drive. So if you just
like google that, I don't know if you pop up
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on Google or Apple Maps. Uh, but it's a it's
a Marches historical landmark, which it is, because we're about
to play a clip from the documentary on that.
Speaker 8 (23:26):
I think you can get herpes by bringing the doorbell you.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
Might be able to.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
So here's the clip in the White House. Here, here
we go.
Speaker 8 (23:34):
I was played my relationship to it.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Then I might incriminate.
Speaker 8 (23:37):
Myself on it.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
You know what I didn't.
Speaker 11 (23:38):
I didn't visit the white houses. You know, no, man,
I'd get into some stories for you. Okay, you spent
a lot of money on hotel with all of these women.
So then we say that's, you know, do a house.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
It was behind val ranch.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Those guys live on the edge, you know, really was
our beds, just their adults.
Speaker 11 (24:01):
We had five rooms and it was whatever you like.
You could mingle with your life. That room you maybe
smoked weed. This room they may be doing X so whatever.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
You know.
Speaker 11 (24:15):
It's a group of girls in each room. And she
just kind of bounced.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
From room their own one time.
Speaker 14 (24:20):
As I walk in, there's two players on the couch,
there's a girl there.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
They got their own video cameras.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
They're all having sex on the couch and she she
was very flexible.
Speaker 11 (24:32):
No, he was just trying to give less a safe
place for camaraderie.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
You know, they fly in THRM stars. The saying came
in given six shows.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
God, it's a whorehouse. Amazing.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
I knew nothing about this, so when they started talking
about it, first I didn't think they were going to
get into it, and then they did. It's like, man,
this blew my mind. I couldn't believe that they got
away with doing this, right.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I think that the problem to here, Well, I don't
know if it's a problem. This is a problem for
me because I wanted to see more. I think to
only give about two or three minutes of this documentary
on the White House does not do that era justice.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
So they checked the episode. We didn't avoid it, we
covered it.
Speaker 7 (25:11):
But yeah, maybe that's the editorial thing where they wouldn't
let him go too crazy there.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
Yeah, right, don't call any of the women and get
their stories of what happened.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Sure, yeah, right, But I mean there's stuff that you
need to even probably just go back and like I
might need to find old articles and things like that,
because it was this was a big deal and it
was talked about in the media. It was open knowledge
that this was happening. I don't know if the address
was out there back then and things like that. They
also the fixer though, you know, to just openly address
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that you've got a fixture on staff as wild.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
Yeah, that's mob stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
And we talked a couple episodes ago where Jerry had
tried to buy the Chargers and Jimmy Hoffa was ready
to give him the money and Jerry's dad's like, dude,
he's gonna kill you. He's going to murder you when
you don't get the first interest in And there's some
stuff we've known for years behind the scenes, people that
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we know who have been you know, put into motion
to go clean this thing out and go be here
for that. I'll use one example and without going too
far into it, but the night Zeke allegedly punched, now
he did the night Zeke punched that DJ at the
club in the last decade, Okay, when that happened. The
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night there before any of the witnesses could go to
the cops or say anything, the cowboys had or someone
I don't know if they were employed by the cowboys,
there were people there handing out in DA's oh man
like okay, and it got covered and that got settled.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
That DJ came out, Okay, made a lot of money
out of that. I think he moved out of town
for a while.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
But like it was all handled because that's the cowboy
way got a fixer.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
But that guy, you could have like put him in
a movie role, Like he just fit that roll so perfect.
Speaker 8 (26:58):
Somebody told me that guy lived in the northern urbs.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
Here's hanging out.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
But yeah, they had bail bondsman, they had lawyers, you
name it.
Speaker 8 (27:05):
They could the Nate Dowton line.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Yeah, I got caught two or three times, but I
let go about a hundred times. Yeah, and god, yeah,
it's crazy. I have one more for you here. And
this is interesting to me. It's because I love this
type of stuff. But this is at the time the
NFL could have been making way more money than it was,
and Jerry is instrumental in moving the NFL over to Fox,
and I like this.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I get a call from Rupert Murdoch.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
I realized the NF not be something that our networks
make money off of.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
We should cost more than that and be a lot slater.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
The owners really didn't know who Fox was.
Speaker 13 (27:44):
Teman Johnson, next coach of the Dallas Cowboys, with coach
We're a thrilled to.
Speaker 12 (27:47):
Have you, which means fans in Dallas we'll hear what
their old coach Jimmy Johnson has to say on a
weekly basis. Barry Switzer says he expects Johnson to criticize
him throughout the season.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
Pretty wild.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Jerry Owning had part ownership in that cable station in Arkansas,
and he was like, why are y'all paying so much
money for I love Lucy Rehe runs that was amazing
to me.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
I mean, he's got so many irons in the fire.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
I have no idea he had anything to do with
NFL going to Fox and so, like you mentioned, the
whole White House thing could have been a separate episode.
This could have been a separate episode.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
No doubt so much.
Speaker 7 (28:20):
He did so many great things for the league and
for the Cowboys, and as a businessman and as a marketer,
he did great, great things. The problem was his ego.
He wanted credit for the football things, and Jimmy was like,
do you're not I'm not going to pretend to talk
to you during draft coverage.
Speaker 8 (28:37):
What what are you at and what are you talking about?
Speaker 7 (28:40):
Or you know, him barging into the locker room with
some clients or something while he's giving a heartfelt speech.
Speaker 8 (28:45):
Like if Jerry and Jimmy could have just kept.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
Those things separated and Jerry would have been okay with, yeah, man,
go handle the football stuff.
Speaker 8 (28:52):
I'll I just you know, I'll handle the brand, they
would have been fine.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
He was on the field trying to coach when Switcher
got there.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
It was a quick, tiny story, but nineteen ninety four,
I remember I was six years old, but I do
remember this very vividly. I was six and a half
years old when the NFL on Fox was announced and
they were doing a big thing and they had Terry
Bradshaw hosting this thing and basically they're promoting it was
on a Friday night. They ran a TV special explaining
that we get football on Sundays. And I remember this
watching it in my living room, and they brought in
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every ten or fifteen minutes, all right, let's get another
on the Blowfish. But it was cool because they're like, Okay,
here's gonna be and here they're announcing Jimmy Johnson's on
the squad and Howie Long and all the people. But
then they would break it up with music and they
were trying to make it like a variety show. And
I remember that from that eight I they were playing
hold my Hand on a Letter Cry and all those
(29:40):
hooting the Blowfish songs. That's another thing about this documentary
is a lot of music from nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
You know, so so good. There it is episode five.
Don't forget Tune in tomorrow. We'll break down episode six.
That's your homework tonight. Go watch episode six. America's Team,
the Gambler and his Cowboys, the Netflix docu series. We'll
be back to do this tomorrow three to six. But
I'll never forget the time that KT looked Hooty dead
in his good eye and he said.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
I think I would say, never change, you know, but
also change.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
All right, Christina Kray Cornbread is gonna play music coming
up next.
Speaker 8 (30:13):
That's right here on the Eagle. There you going, You're out.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Sorry, I'm gonna get some cheeks after this horse Powers joint,
all right,
The Fallous Cowboy surprise.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I feel like Jerry and Jimmy's egos were hurt and
they felt like it wasn't their fault, so they should
have called the Frinkles. The h cut. The Cowboys is
going to take a look at episode five of America's
Team The Gambler and His Cowboys the Netflix series. Episode
five is coming off the great tease from episode four
(00:38):
where they discussed the owners meeting, where Jerry tells the
reporters don't go to bed yet, you're gonna miss the
story of the year because he's about to fire Jimmy Johnson.
And so we're going into the early nineties clearly, and
I'm gonna start out with this clip Jerry talking about
his cancer treatment though that he had a few years back.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I had some cancer treatment.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
My doctor's there at MDASH and said, you need to
do a lot of meditation. Make a list of ten people,
people who can just boil your blood. Start with to
one at the very tom and wish them greatest things.
Must make some wish one and at number one I
wrote down the name Jimmy Johnson. Went back to my
(01:21):
doctor a few weeks later and I told her I
can't get past that first month's.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Funny, and it's so funny.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
I can't get past that first dame at first I've never.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Heard that in meditation, I wish your enemies the best.
Speaker 7 (01:40):
I think the idea is I could be wrong about this,
but you are releasing the negative energy.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Okay, you must have had a lot of that going
on there.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
You have all this negative energy for all these people,
and they're like, go, take all these people you have
negative energy towards and wish them the absolute best, and
it's going to be a release positivity. Yeah, he kind
of had a lobotomy left.
Speaker 8 (02:01):
He did man first month?
Speaker 6 (02:07):
Oh man, yep, all.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Right, So here we go. He's gonna do it? How
is he gonna do it? He's really gonna fire the
coach that just won two back to back Super Bowls
for it, the guy that you put in place you
get credit for that.
Speaker 7 (02:20):
There's trouble at the top of America's team.
Speaker 9 (02:23):
A long running feud between Jimmy Johnson and team owner
Jerry Jones finally exploded today. Who's going to fire a
guy who just won back to back Super Bowls?
Speaker 10 (02:31):
This was Jerry's rejection that was talking. It was not
alcohol that was speaking.
Speaker 7 (02:35):
Jimmy has released a statement, I'm deeply hurt that after
five years.
Speaker 10 (02:39):
Of total commitment to the rebuilding of the Cowboys, I
haven't treated in this way. In Jerry's mind, this team
was so talented, the team that he was a general
manage that anybody could have coached his team who championed Joe.
Speaker 8 (02:51):
He wanted more credit.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
How can you say five hundred coaches when you only
have had one.
Speaker 11 (02:57):
Jim Jimmy's not going to those Jerry's not stood enough
to let him.
Speaker 12 (03:01):
Foy Aikman said he might not have signed his eight year,
fifty million dollar contract if he knew that Jimmy Johnson's
future was in doubt.
Speaker 11 (03:08):
I could not understand. How to hell are we taking
a car to the shop that was not broken.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
For anyone who's saying that this is a big fluff
piece for Jerry and it might end up that way.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
I haven't finished it yet, man. That is damning.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
A lot of stuff has been There's more negative stuff
about Jerry in here that I even thought would get
in this thing. Yeah, Michael Irvins in there, Tom, He's
not stupid enough to do this like that is crazy.
Speaker 7 (03:37):
Yeah, this is this is the moment that egos got involved,
and you know everything was going well, They started horribly.
He fires Tom Landry, he gets Jimmy, They finally start
putting the draft picks together, They get Norp Turner, they
start solving a lot of these issues. Then they build
a super team, go back to back, and then egos
(03:58):
get involved. That's the moment that it all unraveled for
the Cowboys. Granted, they still won another super Bowl and
we'll talk about that, but that's the moment it unraveled,
and it's still unraveled that Jerry's ego is still the
reason that this is not a serious football organization. It's
a great business, it's a great marketing brand, but they're
not serious when it comes to football.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Are you enjoying all this, Christina?
Speaker 5 (04:22):
I'm loving it. But that headline that they mentioned in there,
I could not believe he actually said that. I'm like,
you actually said it was like five hundred coaches to
coach this team to the Super Bowl. Jimmy's horror, and
then Jimmy starts crying about it when he brings it
back up. I'm like, dude, the audacity of you, like,
go screw yourself.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
I can't believe it, and we're a lot more to
get to. Jeffy.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I think way less of Jerry and Jimmy right watching
all of this.
Speaker 8 (04:48):
Yeah, honestly, I don't.
Speaker 7 (04:52):
Know you talk about Michael Irvin too how we feel
about him. But I feel the worst for Troy Aikman honestly.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
You know, I saw someone else talking about this too,
like it was a cowboy fan you know what this
is on, sir. I was watching our friends this certain
to Surroy, their little live cast that they do, and
it was funny because Mike Siroy goes, dude, because Danny
was kind of you know, I'm gonna say flack of
an order. Dame's kind of crapping on it, and Mike goes,
I'm a Dolphins fan. We would kill to have anything
(05:20):
made about us, Yeah, or to just show up at
a super Bowl like they haven't done anything in my lifetime.
And that was an interesting perspective to look at it too.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Well.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
We come back more on the divorce, what really hurt
Jimmy and what Jerry's wife said.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
When Jerry made the move to fire Jimmy.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
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more on that, here's kat.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I've had to make some tough editorial decisions on this,
but I'm really enjoying the old news footage and things
like that too, so I'm leaving some stuff in there
they just found to be interesting.
Speaker 6 (06:19):
So here's a little more on Jimmy and Jerry's divorce.
Speaker 8 (06:22):
We gonna be your coach drink.
Speaker 13 (06:23):
What visit about that is? We go along with week I.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Said, you're the best at this, Dad.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
You can sit down with Jimmy and smooth it all out.
Speaker 12 (06:32):
By two o'clock Johnson was headed toward Jerry Jones's.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Office, where the two would meet for the next two
hours and thirty minutes.
Speaker 8 (06:39):
I mean, I really felt like they'd work it out.
Speaker 14 (06:41):
And I picked up the paper the next morning the
headline with Sid Jones says my way or the highway.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
And so the minute we saw each other that next morning,
we said said and go war.
Speaker 13 (06:53):
We have mutually decided that I would no longer be
the head football coach with the doll Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I think it's a prop Well, I think it sucks
that Jerry just wouldn't fire him.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
We have to have a big meeting and have a mutually.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Parting of the ways because Jerry would have to take
on that responsibility and blame. But if you do that,
you're putting yourself onto the coals again. But like, show
some balls, dude. And I'm not saying Jerry theres balls.
God knows he got to where he is by having
some balls, making some risky decisions. But right there, if
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you really feel that way, then just fire him.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
Right But you're saying because Jimmy got out there and
they said we mutually decided to part way.
Speaker 6 (07:41):
Yeah, now they're going to contract stuff there.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
Maybe I bet it had to do with that. It
also could have been a non disclosure. I don't know,
like what what benefit. I guess it gets complicated because
if you want to get paid out on a contract,
you can't say I quit.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
But we know now that Jerry pushed him out.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
I mean, for sure, tell from his face in that
press conference you just played, Jimmy's just sitting there like this,
like he's miserable.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, and he would have been miserable if he stayed though,
and yeah he says that.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Goose Goslin of the Dallas Morning News, longtime football reporter,
Here's what really really cut Jimmy deep.
Speaker 10 (08:18):
He mortgaged his future. He brought in Jimmy Johns, which
people ridicule. Ben the team goes one and fifteen, all
the criticism is directed at Jerry Jones, and he just
stood there and took all those things and narrows. And
now when they start winning, Jimmy's getting all the credit
and Jerry's kind of in the background not getting any credit.
He couldn't he couldn't live with that.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
It's good perspective to have because Jerry all the stuff
that he did that we covered in the first couple episodes. Absolutely,
I mean everyone's trash talking him, calling him country bumpkin, redneck.
No one likes you. Go away, you fired Tom Landry
were having a preyed for him, and then they sucked
you for two years. Like Jimmy didn't have to wear
(08:59):
any that right.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
Neither one of them wanted to share it. No, they
both wanted to ball hug all the credit.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
There's a childish scene I was thinking of the other day.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
The whole thing is child Your team is winning super Bowls?
Who cares about who gets credit for it.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
There's a moment where Jerry's got the super Bowl Trophy
and Jimmy is up there with it and Jimmy goes,
I need a new ring.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
And they're like competing over like, well, look what I'm
going to get now? And look at I'm gonna get
and it's like, God.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Did you see him take it from Jimmy. Jerry just
like like, oh, you can tell right there, there's already
an issue.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Well they edited out and we'll get to it old
air when Jerry takes the trophy away from Switzer and
it was edited out of this documentary because that was
famous back then.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
He pulls it away from him.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
It's crazy, dysfunctional. But I think the worst part is
going back and looking all this and what an embarrassment
of riches it was at the time, and to know
that it's been a thirty year drought.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
It's crazy.
Speaker 8 (09:56):
So it's soul crushing, and it all starts right here.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
All starts right here. I said up the last one wrong.
That last one was like, what really hurt Jerry? This
is actually what really hurt Jimmy.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
The one thing that hurt me.
Speaker 14 (10:06):
Five hundred coaches could have coached that team to a
super Bowl and maybe they couldn't. But I take a
lot of pride in putting together that team. And when
you diminished that, that hurt me.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Shame on me. I grew careless. It wasn't like I
wasn't trying to finger through it.
Speaker 13 (10:21):
If we don't look out, we'll take one of the
greatest stories that's ever been told in sports, and we'd
take all the positives of that.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
We'd take. They're no negatives when you really look at it.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Watch me at this drive.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Okay, that was a good thing to me because he
was about to say it. It's amazing how not media
savvy they were back then too. I mean I talked
about I think last week the press conference where Jimmy
basically was about to throw the team under the bus
for not getting over him and its hold out, and
he's like, I thought my guys would, Oh boy, I
(10:59):
dude's aimable offenser right there in these days. But right there,
Jerry was about to say it, if we're not careful,
we're gonna ruin these good times by not being able
to get along, and he stops himself. I'm gonna play
this again because it's important to change what he was
gonna say.
Speaker 13 (11:14):
Yeah, we'll take one of the greatest stories that's ever
been told in sports, and we'd take all the positives
of that.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
We'd take they're no negatives when you really look at it.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
He was about to say, we'll take all the positives
of it, and we won't.
Speaker 8 (11:27):
Look at the neck. He nearly said it.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, kind of shocking, Yeah, because oh whatever, I don't
know what age had happened two thousand and nine.
Speaker 8 (11:36):
Now a new head coach gets hired.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
He's sweaty, and he thanks all the people at the
front desk or the Jets coach who was chasing the
taco because someone put a taco and made it fly
around because he couldn't focus, and he had crazy eyes
like any any small thing that you do. And now
like back then too, they had more personality, you know why,
because they weren't like putting football prison by iPhones and
(12:03):
social media like nowadays, everyone's just careful when they say
generic stuff. This is good. There's not a lot of
Gene in this. By the way, Jeane, what a catch? Yeah,
pretty good looking, like Jerry out kicked his coverage by
a lot. And we saw them in college like we
(12:23):
saw the folks. Yeah, okay, here's what Gene said. When
Jerry gets back into bed.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
I come home that night and get into bed, Jean's
laying there. She says, you just can't help it, can you.
You just can't live with good going good said, you
just can't do it. Said here we are one two
super Bowls and you walk out there and make a
change with the coach. You just can't handle some solid,
(12:50):
really good taps.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Now. I usually say that smiling and laughing at her.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
I don't know why right now that I'm getting sensitive
about it, just tearing up.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
Yeah, perspective, right, I've liked a whole episode on gene. Yeah,
all right, let's let's keep it going. This is episode
five America's Team, The Gambler and his Cowboys, the Netflix
docu series. Will keep it going next, don't go anywhere
before having a good time analyzing episode five of America's Team,
The Gambler and his Cowboys, the Netflix docu series.
Speaker 8 (13:20):
And with more on that, here's kat.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yes, so you fired Jimmy Johnson, but Jerry is a
marketing genius and you can't deny that because he went
ahead and made a call to Barry Switzer, and the
headlines the next day were just that. This is also
the most graphic part of this documentary where you see
a man's butt whole whoa what I think a whole
(13:44):
the colonoscope scene.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
I couldn't believe was a series that right too much.
Speaker 8 (13:51):
You didn't need that too much.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
But here's what Switcher's b hole looks like.
Speaker 9 (13:54):
The artful thing that Jerry did in all of this
was the story of the Dallas Morning News the next day,
Barry Switz to do Cowboys head coach.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I remember, just because I'd had a cold NASCAR me
that morning. When I got home, the phone rings Jerry
Jones wants to talk to you, and Jerry said, you
want to coach Cowboys? I said, I know, jamn job.
He is open. He said what's going to be open?
And I said, well, Ones hoping to get me caught.
That's my interview five years ago. I said, we will
win with the new head coach.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Barry Switzers absolutely got the higher.
Speaker 14 (14:27):
Barry Swizzer was a Towys Jimmy from.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Jimmy the Switzer had been a longtime college coach and
then bitter rivals with Jimmy during those college days. This
kind of makes sense now Barry knew what was going
to happen before all this.
Speaker 8 (14:46):
This is okay.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
This is one problem if you were poking holes in
this thing, is what was the accuracy on the specific
dates of that owner's meeting, how it went down when
he told Edward and the other media members stick around,
going to make a big move here. But when he
called Switcher the first time I think was three or
four days before that. Oh, now they they set it
(15:09):
up in this documentary as Jerry got offended when Jimmy
went and toasted you know, and I don't know. I
think Barry knew because Barry was like, I can't like
take the job right now, or you know, Barry was like, uh,
because Barry had been retired.
Speaker 8 (15:24):
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Speaker 7 (15:25):
So so Barry was really call if it really happened
after the toasting thing and after he fired Jimmy, he
wouldn't have said, called me when it's open.
Speaker 8 (15:32):
It was opening at that point.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
But maybe Jerry did call him the day after that
toast and all that he made the decision, because like
he just fired him the next day. You know, there's
still a time in between that. But there's something there's
a timeline there that I think we might have a
whole but I don't know. Boy wild opening press conference
with old Barry Switzer. Boy, this is an energetic guy here. Again,
he had been retired for five years. Okay, So this is
(15:57):
like if the Cowboys got rid of Shody. Okay, they
got rid of the car, and then they just took
a guy who'd been sitting out for five years. You know,
it's not that different if they have gotten I mean,
Nick Saban was a name we had did toss round.
That's two years retired, I think with successful college coach
who'd been out of the game, for a while though,
that would be kind of interesting. But this is the
wild opening presser.
Speaker 9 (16:17):
Barry Switzer had had been retired for five years, never
even really aspired to coach in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
We've got a job to do, and we gonna duck.
Speaker 9 (16:26):
Maybe you want me to prove that five hundred guys
could win the Super Bowl with this team. Jimmy, I'm
gonna hire the guy who's least.
Speaker 8 (16:34):
Likely to do it. Yeah, Michael Irvin was visibly agitated.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Probably you brought in a guy that never coached at
that level.
Speaker 8 (16:42):
Jerry's a bad guy here, right, Jimmy's a good guy.
I read the paul on the paper today.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I hope I can do as good a job as
Jimmy Johnson. That's what you're hoping.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
And that's damn sure what you're hoping. That's time here.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
God, the cocaine must have been going on, Like holy cow.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
It was the exact opposite of Jimmy.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
Jimmy was like this football genius and he had turned
this thing around back to back, you know, super bowls,
and here this guys who's retired. He's kind of a
clown at this point in his career. You know, he
was a great college coach. He's been out of the
game for a long time, and here he is just
juggling with clown makeup on.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
It's pretty awesome, though.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Do you have audio of him and Dale Hanson?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I do, that's next, but yeah, yeah, Dale Hanson at
Channel eight for many many years, a big, powerful figure
in this town.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
And he's hanging out with Switzer.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Michael Herby took all the players out on the town
one night and they were out partying all night long.
Speaker 8 (17:38):
I said, don't you guys have a curfew?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Hey, Switzer is the coach who cares you. So we
get to the practice field the next day, you could
tell everybody just hung over. Like Gracie, Barry just buses
Wistorm said, boys, go hit the pool.
Speaker 11 (17:52):
Barry just believe every man should be able to take
care of himself.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
And I'm not asked sure what Davis thought he should
have been the head coach. Joe, I don't thought he
should have been the head coach. They were sniping behind
his back and next thing I know, he's punching me
in the armity. I'm like, what's just goofy, some bitch
doing what the boss is And I am the boss.
Speaker 12 (18:11):
You know what, because I came to Ballast.
Speaker 8 (18:13):
With money than Timmy left with.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
I mean, god, it looked like it hurt too. Dale, Like, okay, man,
like stop punching me in the arm.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
You beat the crap out of it.
Speaker 7 (18:25):
It's such a it's such a fed up deal because
when you made that switch from Jimmy to Barry, it
was almost like a substitute teacher was there. Yeah, and
you know you could act up be a clown like
they lost one hundred percent of discipline when they lost Jimmy.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
Yeah, no, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I'm on to one day find that old ten minute
interview with Barry Switzer and Dale Hanson and then run
it through AI and see what happened.
Speaker 8 (18:51):
Oh, it's a good idea.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Coming up next though, let's talk about the the guys
are having fun now because Jimmy's not cracking the whip.
And then this documentary does address the White House, the
famous White House and Valley Ranch, and let's see if
they did it justice. Well that next, all right, that's
coming up next. All right, it is the Been and
Skin Show wrapping up a Monday. Hope everyone's taking advantage
(19:17):
of this cool front. How about that he's at the high.
Tomorrow is gonna be in the upper eighties.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Oh, I love it.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Good time to get outside, roll your shorts up, get
a little extra tan above the kneecaps if you like.
We're discussing episode five of the Netflix documentary. Tomorrow we
will do episode six. So there's your homework assignment for tonight.
Knock out episode six and enjoy it with us tomorrow
during the five PM hour.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
It was a juicy one.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
But right now, as we continue on, I will play
the intro because I like the intro, because I like to.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Finish kill.
Speaker 8 (19:56):
This thing's big skin.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
Will be back tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Should much more smooth coming in the segments in the
back part of the hour.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Much smooth. Much more smooth is good too.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
Though there's you know, goo ahead.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
So look, Jerry's gone, Barry Switzer's in, and Barry Switzer's
attitude is a I've been retired for five years. Holy hell,
I'm the coach of the Dallas Cowboys. What It's pretty awesome.
But the grown man, the ideals are in, Like, you
are a professional?
Speaker 8 (20:32):
Can you be ready to play on Sunday?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
I don't care what you do during the week, as
long as you're ready to go on Sundays.
Speaker 8 (20:38):
You're good. You guys have won two.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Super Bowls back to back. You don't need meat crawling
up there. You're not gonna learn anything from me crawling
up there. So they're having a lot of fun, and
Troy's pretty much the only one who's not happy about that.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
It seems they took over the strip clubs.
Speaker 11 (20:55):
We had our pigs at enjoying.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
It's beautiful specimens.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
God has praised on his beautiful cops knew players without
question how to pass cherryhead guys.
Speaker 11 (21:06):
To make sure that you know, whenever things came up,
they would catch before it became something.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
And I knew how to call the fixtures. If I
got locked.
Speaker 11 (21:15):
Up two or three times, I mean I got to
let loose maybe one hundred times.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
There was this one night I wasn't drunk, but I
had a few and I see this cop card come
from behind, then gets in front of me.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
Turn left because his blade is on the turn left
to make a right turn. He makes a right turn,
goes rapped by in front of my garage.
Speaker 8 (21:33):
Dude, you just got escort at home.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
By the cops talking about doing bad things.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Yeah, it kind of it made me worried for a
lot of those guys just straight up and meeting like yeah,
I like drink and then drove home like Jesus Gars Rhythm.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I left all this out, but the Eric Williams situation, yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
That I was too young to really remember all that,
but I.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
Still think about it every time I drive there. At
six or five in the toll way, I see a
mark up against the wall. Used to see it, but
I still think about that.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Gosh, so they're having a good time and there's not
a lot of checks and balances going on right now.
It's kind of you guys, do your thing. You up
to practice. If you do show up to practice hungover,
we will send you to the pool like there's no fun.
It's pretty awesome.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Also, you may get to this guy, but the guy
that bailed him out of everything, like he was not
their publicist but kind of the the fixer. That's what
it was.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I don't know if there's audio of them, there's The
next clip is about the White House. Okay, the famous
house where they had parties, which honestly, you don't want
us going out to the clubs drinking and driving.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
Okay, let's get a house.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
They got a party house over there at Valley Ranch,
which I did look up is still there and it
is labeled on Zillo as a historical landmark.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
What what?
Speaker 6 (22:50):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (22:51):
Are you serious?
Speaker 6 (22:51):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Who would want to buy that? After watching this?
Speaker 6 (22:54):
As they put the address on there? And I think
it's a Dorset drive.
Speaker 12 (22:57):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
In fact, let me see address of the White House
in Irving. Yeah, it's it says the Cowboys White House
or something like that. And I think it's got Michael
Irvin's name on it on the DNA and the sea
there one fifteen door set drive. So if you just
like google that, I don't know if you pop up
(23:18):
on Google or Apple Maps. Uh, but it's a it's
a Marches historical landmark, which it is, because we're about
to play a clip from the documentary on that.
Speaker 8 (23:26):
I think you can get herpes by bringing the doorbell you.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
Might be able to.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
So here's the clip in the White House. Here, here
we go.
Speaker 8 (23:34):
I was played my relationship to it.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Then I might incriminate.
Speaker 8 (23:37):
Myself on it.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
You know what I didn't.
Speaker 11 (23:38):
I didn't visit the white houses. You know, no, man,
I'd get into some stories for you. Okay, you spent
a lot of money on hotel with all of these women.
So then we say that's, you know, do a house.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
It was behind val ranch.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Those guys live on the edge, you know, really was
our beds, just their adults.
Speaker 11 (24:01):
We had five rooms and it was whatever you like.
You could mingle with your life. That room you maybe
smoked weed. This room they may be doing X so whatever.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
You know.
Speaker 11 (24:15):
It's a group of girls in each room. And she
just kind of bounced.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
From room their own one time.
Speaker 14 (24:20):
As I walk in, there's two players on the couch,
there's a girl there.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
They got their own video cameras.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
They're all having sex on the couch and she she
was very flexible.
Speaker 11 (24:32):
No, he was just trying to give less a safe
place for camaraderie.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
You know, they fly in THRM stars. The saying came
in given six shows.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
God, it's a whorehouse. Amazing.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
I knew nothing about this, so when they started talking
about it, first I didn't think they were going to
get into it, and then they did. It's like, man,
this blew my mind. I couldn't believe that they got
away with doing this, right.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I think that the problem to here, Well, I don't
know if it's a problem. This is a problem for
me because I wanted to see more. I think to
only give about two or three minutes of this documentary
on the White House does not do that era justice.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
So they checked the episode. We didn't avoid it, we
covered it.
Speaker 7 (25:11):
But yeah, maybe that's the editorial thing where they wouldn't
let him go too crazy there.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
Yeah, right, don't call any of the women and get
their stories of what happened.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Sure, yeah, right, But I mean there's stuff that you
need to even probably just go back and like I
might need to find old articles and things like that,
because it was this was a big deal and it
was talked about in the media. It was open knowledge
that this was happening. I don't know if the address
was out there back then and things like that. They
also the fixer though, you know, to just openly address
(25:42):
that you've got a fixture on staff as wild.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
Yeah, that's mob stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
And we talked a couple episodes ago where Jerry had
tried to buy the Chargers and Jimmy Hoffa was ready
to give him the money and Jerry's dad's like, dude,
he's gonna kill you. He's going to murder you when
you don't get the first interest in And there's some
stuff we've known for years behind the scenes, people that
(26:06):
we know who have been you know, put into motion
to go clean this thing out and go be here
for that. I'll use one example and without going too
far into it, but the night Zeke allegedly punched, now
he did the night Zeke punched that DJ at the
club in the last decade, Okay, when that happened. The
(26:29):
night there before any of the witnesses could go to
the cops or say anything, the cowboys had or someone
I don't know if they were employed by the cowboys,
there were people there handing out in DA's oh man
like okay, and it got covered and that got settled.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
That DJ came out, Okay, made a lot of money
out of that. I think he moved out of town
for a while.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
But like it was all handled because that's the cowboy
way got a fixer.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
But that guy, you could have like put him in
a movie role, Like he just fit that roll so perfect.
Speaker 8 (26:58):
Somebody told me that guy lived in the northern urbs.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
Here's hanging out.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
But yeah, they had bail bondsman, they had lawyers, you
name it.
Speaker 8 (27:05):
They could the Nate Dowton line.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Yeah, I got caught two or three times, but I
let go about a hundred times. Yeah, and god, yeah,
it's crazy. I have one more for you here. And
this is interesting to me. It's because I love this
type of stuff. But this is at the time the
NFL could have been making way more money than it was,
and Jerry is instrumental in moving the NFL over to Fox,
and I like this.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I get a call from Rupert Murdoch.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
I realized the NF not be something that our networks
make money off of.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
We should cost more than that and be a lot slater.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
The owners really didn't know who Fox was.
Speaker 13 (27:44):
Teman Johnson, next coach of the Dallas Cowboys, with coach
We're a thrilled to.
Speaker 12 (27:47):
Have you, which means fans in Dallas we'll hear what
their old coach Jimmy Johnson has to say on a
weekly basis. Barry Switzer says he expects Johnson to criticize
him throughout the season.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
Pretty wild.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Jerry Owning had part ownership in that cable station in Arkansas,
and he was like, why are y'all paying so much
money for I love Lucy Rehe runs that was amazing
to me.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
I mean, he's got so many irons in the fire.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
I have no idea he had anything to do with
NFL going to Fox and so, like you mentioned, the
whole White House thing could have been a separate episode.
This could have been a separate episode.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
No doubt so much.
Speaker 7 (28:20):
He did so many great things for the league and
for the Cowboys, and as a businessman and as a marketer,
he did great, great things. The problem was his ego.
He wanted credit for the football things, and Jimmy was like,
do you're not I'm not going to pretend to talk
to you during draft coverage.
Speaker 8 (28:37):
What what are you at and what are you talking about?
Speaker 7 (28:40):
Or you know, him barging into the locker room with
some clients or something while he's giving a heartfelt speech.
Speaker 8 (28:45):
Like if Jerry and Jimmy could have just kept.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
Those things separated and Jerry would have been okay with, yeah, man,
go handle the football stuff.
Speaker 8 (28:52):
I'll I just you know, I'll handle the brand, they
would have been fine.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
He was on the field trying to coach when Switcher
got there.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
It was a quick, tiny story, but nineteen ninety four,
I remember I was six years old, but I do
remember this very vividly. I was six and a half
years old when the NFL on Fox was announced and
they were doing a big thing and they had Terry
Bradshaw hosting this thing and basically they're promoting it was
on a Friday night. They ran a TV special explaining
that we get football on Sundays. And I remember this
watching it in my living room, and they brought in
(29:20):
every ten or fifteen minutes, all right, let's get another
on the Blowfish. But it was cool because they're like, Okay,
here's gonna be and here they're announcing Jimmy Johnson's on
the squad and Howie Long and all the people. But
then they would break it up with music and they
were trying to make it like a variety show. And
I remember that from that eight I they were playing
hold my Hand on a Letter Cry and all those
(29:40):
hooting the Blowfish songs. That's another thing about this documentary
is a lot of music from nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
You know, so so good. There it is episode five.
Don't forget Tune in tomorrow. We'll break down episode six.
That's your homework tonight. Go watch episode six. America's Team,
the Gambler and his Cowboys, the Netflix docu series. We'll
be back to do this tomorrow three to six. But
I'll never forget the time that KT looked Hooty dead
in his good eye and he said.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
I think I would say, never change, you know, but
also change.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
All right, Christina Kray Cornbread is gonna play music coming
up next.
Speaker 8 (30:13):
That's right here on the Eagle. There you going, You're out.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Sorry, I'm gonna get some cheeks after this horse Powers joint,
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