July 21, 2025 • 6 mins
Is it fair to call a fifth-round rookie “lazy” before he’s even played a snap?In this fiery and unfiltered episode of The Ben and Skin Show, hosts Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray dive headfirst into the latest Cowboys controversy that’s lighting up the fanbase. The crew reacts to former Cowboys scout and assistant coach Glenn “Stretch” Smith dropping a bombshell on a podcast—claiming rookie running back Jaydon Blue is already raising red flags inside the building.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, the suck zone is coming up. That's where
(00:02):
we clean up big stores. You break out the vacuum
cleaner and clean up any big news stories that are
still hanging over.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
By the way, I saw this.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
On Dallas, Texas TV that Shaquille O'Neal is advising the
WNBA to lower their rims so they can make more money. Man,
he thinks if dunks are in play that that's where
the money is. So he's like, let's lower the rims
and help them make money. So this is a guy
that didn't spend a lot of time working on his shot.
Because if you spend your entire life working on your
(00:29):
shot on a ten foot rim and then you lower it,
I mean you do man, in the last ten years
you put in working on your game.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We're gonna throw that out the window.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
They were wearing shirts at their All Star games saying
pay us what you owe us, And I'm like, again,
that's we were talking about. You know, the TV show
losing money forty million dollars a year. I know that
league is not profitable. It is next year, so well,
she Caitlyn Clark is first of all, there's so much infighting,
like they hate Caitlin Clark, and she's the reason that
they're all going to be making money. Have you seen
(01:00):
their TV deal for next year? No, it's more than
f one. They're they're jumping to a two hundred million
dollar TV deal. And so they're saying, we're about to
get all this TV money, give us some of it.
They're about to get some of it. The problem is,
so they make you know, the way salary caps work,
they make ten percent of the revenue of the WNBA
the players do, and the NBA the players make fifty
(01:22):
percent of the revenue.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
They're saying, how come we don't get it? Makes sense right, right?
But it's harder to sell it used to be. Yes,
it's much harder to sell, but.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
It's changing again. They'd be easier to sell. But it's
still not anywhere near as easy to sell. But it's grown.
It's it's a it's a growth sport. I mean, that's
a nice TV I mean, I mean that damn near
quadrupled their TV money in one year.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Let's go, let's go.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Let's lower the rims though too, no shack, But right
now it's time for this come on.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Surprise.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Lets get to it.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Fellow By the name of Glenn Stretch Smith. He has
done stuff. He was an assistant coach for a while.
He was a scout for the Cowboys, worked with him
at Yeah you guys. Her name is a galways homie.
But for some reason he's doing the Lockdown podcast with
making slightly Biased now Marcus Moser and someone else, and
(02:32):
I think Jeff Bates is his name of the thing.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Anyway, there are three minutes into their podcast and they're
talking about demarve on overshown and watch the direction that
Glenn Stretch Smith takes this thing.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Out of nowhere.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
An article that came out from ESPN earlier this week
talking about the top linebackers in the league, in several
NFL coaches said that he's one of the.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Best already in the NFL. It's great to see him there.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
We're we're all hoping that he can make it back
onto the field this season.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
We'll see.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
I'm hoping he's setting the tone for his former teammate
at the University of Texas, because that's that's really the
guy I'm worried about. I'm already hearing some rumblings out
of the building about the running back that they drafted
and him being you know, kind of just a borderline
lazy not in the building doing his off season workouts.
(03:23):
So maybe he's saying, hey, one long horn to the
other long horn, get your ass in here and let's
get going a little bit, because I think that's that's
a firm message that needs to be sent.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
So Jaden Blue is lazy according to Stretch, and you
can tell by the hesitation. He was hesitant to say
the old word, and he's like, oh, hell, I'll say.
You know, now he was a scout for the Cowboys
like a long time ago. Yeah, is he still like
wired in with the building? So he's I mean, he's
(03:57):
been on FAA as part of their football average every
football season for a long time.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Doing workouts. He mentions doing workouts away from the building,
So I'm I he jumped to training and medical staff,
which they don't have a lot of compared to other
teams in the league. Those are the guys that who
usually have been there for a while, right, so hearing
that and those might just be guys you're up to
the he's not there.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
They call him lazy though he's a third round draft pick.
How do we know he spent like zero time there.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, but also you know, to me, it's like, I
don't know my first response. And again it's just based
on stories that come out of there. But it's like, man,
wasn't everything fun with Shoddy?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
It was so much fun. Oh that's what they had fun.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
We're having a good time right now.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
And so it's like, you know, that might not be
the tone to set with the rookies.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Here's one more here, silias.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
College guys are getting paid. And I realized all of that,
but I'm telling you, I'm I'm just giving you right
up front. I'm concerned about this pick at the University
of Texas. Wow. And I think he's got to create
the doubt. Take the doubt that's in the room right now.
I don't know if it's off field stuff. I don't
know if it's immaturity. I don't know if it's not
(05:05):
understanding the NFL. I don't know if it's really not
really understanding what your role is right now, which is
as the number three guy. I'll flip it to the
other side the first time he tiptoes up in there
and gets his nose bloody, and then let's see what happens.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Okay, dude.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
First of all, Jabe is a fifth round pick, so
let's lower the bar of tad. Yeah, I was expecting
him to set the world on fire. He's drafting the
fifth round for a reason. I like stretch and I
like listening to him break things down. This is a
fascinating to you. This is not something I had even
on my radar and anyway, so I'll say it. He's lazy.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
He's got great sources telling him that there's a major
concern around this fifth round pick. I mean, it's already
the thirty second ranked running back room in the NFL.
There's no expectation none.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I'm worried about every draft pick that got paid in college,
you know, because they're clearly yeah, what is But hey, again,
he might have insanely good intel here and that they
really are worried and he's the only one who's got it,
and so he's saying it.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
But I love it when I mean I love stuff
like that, because man, he's been told that by somebody.
This might be the first time someone has gone in
hard on a fifth round pick.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Well tomorrow we'll see if they were asked about it
at the State of the team address because they held
court for an hour today. I'm sure they pushed their
Netflix documentary, but we'll find out.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Jerry and this.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Undrafted free agent was slow.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
All right. There you have it, cussing the Cowboys
All right, the suck zone is coming up. That's where
(00:02):
we clean up big stores. You break out the vacuum
cleaner and clean up any big news stories that are
still hanging over.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
By the way, I saw this.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
On Dallas, Texas TV that Shaquille O'Neal is advising the
WNBA to lower their rims so they can make more money. Man,
he thinks if dunks are in play that that's where
the money is. So he's like, let's lower the rims
and help them make money. So this is a guy
that didn't spend a lot of time working on his shot.
Because if you spend your entire life working on your
(00:29):
shot on a ten foot rim and then you lower it,
I mean you do man, in the last ten years
you put in working on your game.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We're gonna throw that out the window.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
They were wearing shirts at their All Star games saying
pay us what you owe us, And I'm like, again,
that's we were talking about. You know, the TV show
losing money forty million dollars a year. I know that
league is not profitable. It is next year, so well,
she Caitlyn Clark is first of all, there's so much infighting,
like they hate Caitlin Clark, and she's the reason that
they're all going to be making money. Have you seen
(01:00):
their TV deal for next year? No, it's more than
f one. They're they're jumping to a two hundred million
dollar TV deal. And so they're saying, we're about to
get all this TV money, give us some of it.
They're about to get some of it. The problem is,
so they make you know, the way salary caps work,
they make ten percent of the revenue of the WNBA
the players do, and the NBA the players make fifty
(01:22):
percent of the revenue.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
They're saying, how come we don't get it? Makes sense right, right?
But it's harder to sell it used to be. Yes,
it's much harder to sell, but.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
It's changing again. They'd be easier to sell. But it's
still not anywhere near as easy to sell. But it's grown.
It's it's a it's a growth sport. I mean, that's
a nice TV I mean, I mean that damn near
quadrupled their TV money in one year.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Let's go, let's go.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Let's lower the rims though too, no shack, But right
now it's time for this come on.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Surprise.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Lets get to it.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Fellow By the name of Glenn Stretch Smith. He has
done stuff. He was an assistant coach for a while.
He was a scout for the Cowboys, worked with him
at Yeah you guys. Her name is a galways homie.
But for some reason he's doing the Lockdown podcast with
making slightly Biased now Marcus Moser and someone else, and
(02:32):
I think Jeff Bates is his name of the thing.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Anyway, there are three minutes into their podcast and they're
talking about demarve on overshown and watch the direction that
Glenn Stretch Smith takes this thing.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Out of nowhere.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
An article that came out from ESPN earlier this week
talking about the top linebackers in the league, in several
NFL coaches said that he's one of the.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Best already in the NFL. It's great to see him there.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
We're we're all hoping that he can make it back
onto the field this season.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
We'll see.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
I'm hoping he's setting the tone for his former teammate
at the University of Texas, because that's that's really the
guy I'm worried about. I'm already hearing some rumblings out
of the building about the running back that they drafted
and him being you know, kind of just a borderline
lazy not in the building doing his off season workouts.
(03:23):
So maybe he's saying, hey, one long horn to the
other long horn, get your ass in here and let's
get going a little bit, because I think that's that's
a firm message that needs to be sent.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
So Jaden Blue is lazy according to Stretch, and you
can tell by the hesitation. He was hesitant to say
the old word, and he's like, oh, hell, I'll say.
You know, now he was a scout for the Cowboys
like a long time ago. Yeah, is he still like
wired in with the building? So he's I mean, he's
(03:57):
been on FAA as part of their football average every
football season for a long time.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Doing workouts. He mentions doing workouts away from the building,
So I'm I he jumped to training and medical staff,
which they don't have a lot of compared to other
teams in the league. Those are the guys that who
usually have been there for a while, right, so hearing
that and those might just be guys you're up to
the he's not there.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
They call him lazy though he's a third round draft pick.
How do we know he spent like zero time there.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, but also you know, to me, it's like, I
don't know my first response. And again it's just based
on stories that come out of there. But it's like, man,
wasn't everything fun with Shoddy?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
It was so much fun. Oh that's what they had fun.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
We're having a good time right now.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
And so it's like, you know, that might not be
the tone to set with the rookies.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Here's one more here, silias.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
College guys are getting paid. And I realized all of that,
but I'm telling you, I'm I'm just giving you right
up front. I'm concerned about this pick at the University
of Texas. Wow. And I think he's got to create
the doubt. Take the doubt that's in the room right now.
I don't know if it's off field stuff. I don't
know if it's immaturity. I don't know if it's not
(05:05):
understanding the NFL. I don't know if it's really not
really understanding what your role is right now, which is
as the number three guy. I'll flip it to the
other side the first time he tiptoes up in there
and gets his nose bloody, and then let's see what happens.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Okay, dude.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
First of all, Jabe is a fifth round pick, so
let's lower the bar of tad. Yeah, I was expecting
him to set the world on fire. He's drafting the
fifth round for a reason. I like stretch and I
like listening to him break things down. This is a
fascinating to you. This is not something I had even
on my radar and anyway, so I'll say it. He's lazy.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
He's got great sources telling him that there's a major
concern around this fifth round pick. I mean, it's already
the thirty second ranked running back room in the NFL.
There's no expectation none.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I'm worried about every draft pick that got paid in college,
you know, because they're clearly yeah, what is But hey, again,
he might have insanely good intel here and that they
really are worried and he's the only one who's got it,
and so he's saying it.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
But I love it when I mean I love stuff
like that, because man, he's been told that by somebody.
This might be the first time someone has gone in
hard on a fifth round pick.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Well tomorrow we'll see if they were asked about it
at the State of the team address because they held
court for an hour today. I'm sure they pushed their
Netflix documentary, but we'll find out.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Jerry and this.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Undrafted free agent was slow.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
All right. There you have it, cussing the Cowboys
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