August 4, 2025 • 15 mins
"Is a fake back injury just another move in the NFL’s most dramatic negotiation saga?"In this explosive episode of The Ben and Skin Show, hosts Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray dive headfirst into the swirling drama surrounding Micah Parsons’ trade demand and Jerry Jones’ theatrical response. From surprise media scrums to sauna confessionals, this episode is packed with insider insights, biting humor, and the kind of Cowboys chaos only Jerry can orchestrate.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A fella cowboy.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Surprise.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
All right, it's Saturday. Jerry Jones walks out to the
practice field and this is, you know, about twenty four
hours after Michael Parsons formally told the world that he
doesn't want to be a cowboy anymore and wants to
be traded. So we got to ask Jerry all these questions.
So here's a let's just kind of get started here.
(00:34):
So are you considering it?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I'm not. I think of the world of miahp that's
just part of negotiation.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Would you ever consider trading him? Again?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I don't really place that with any real seriousness. You know,
Mike has got a bad back? What that's like being traded?
Did the request take the way of to say?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
All right?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
All right?
Speaker 5 (00:56):
So he says bad back is why mic is not practicing. No,
he's saying, uh, it's all in negotiation. Micah has a
fake back injury, and here's a fake trade request. Like
it's not it's all negotiation, it's all pretend land.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
He's dismissing it as nothing because honestly, it kind of is.
Because Micah can't just be traded. I mean you can't
if they want to. And tomorrow on the show kind of.
I've got some scenarios of what you could actually like
the hall could be. But we'll do that tomorrow. But
is bat what if his fake bad back carries over
in the week? One man, Just keep bad back in
(01:31):
your pocket for a minute, because it's gonna keep It's
gonna keep going that way. When did the negotiations really start?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Jerry, I'm starting negotiations in March with his age, I said,
I started negotiation in March, and I've negotiated double handfuls
and contracts just like I did in March.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
He thought it was again again again again?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Are you asking me? Yeah, I started that in March.
Go to the negotiationsgotiating.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
The meeting was about leadership, not about his contract.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
It's my it's my answer. I was negotiating in March.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
I'm surprised he's gotten to this point.
Speaker 7 (02:04):
Not really, boy, he was. You're ready for Todd Archer
to shut up that? He just said, whatever Clarence woul happen?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Really not really? Uh? A little contentious there, Yeah, watch
you for that code word again. He just doesn't like
when you ask him to be real.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Yeah, no, for sure. And now I'm just asking you
a real question. He is purposefully playing the villain in wrestling. Yeah,
and he's the villain. He's trying to it's it's w
W or whatever. He's the bad guy.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
And I do know that this was not a setup
meeting time. He was walking after practice. The media is
following him to see. All they gotta do. All he's
got to do is just keep walking where he's going.
They can't grab him and make Jerry talk, right, and
he wanted to do it. So here we go. Do
you expect him to be on the field.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Week one again?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I don't want to talk about my expectations now that
is speculating.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
Is it good to see him? It's still at practice though,
even if he made the demand, but he's still out
of here.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Well, I wish the bank would get better, he wis.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
So again again, I just said I wish the bank
would get better so we could not have a herd back.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Wow job because if michaeh leaves, If Michael leaves, he
gets fined fifty thousand dollars a day. So Mike's like,
I'll just go hang out of practice, dude. Micah is
just throwing the ball around. He's hanging out with the
quarterback some now shot, he said in the meetings he's
been very engaged asking questions and he's being being a
(03:41):
great teammate. No, you don't have to have a healthy
back for the meetings. He's out there throw it literally,
you know the games they throw, they try to throw
the ball through the tire and the net. Like he's
out there doing stuff like that with a third quarterback, Will.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Greer, How different is their defense going to be with
a new coordinator and him being their best player?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Isn't it?
Speaker 5 (04:00):
And give up a lot of soft I know they're
gonna give up. I know they're gonna be the worst
defense in the league.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
No, they're gonna be good. Probably know they're not. They
need him to. Like, their pass rush is amazing, their
pass rush is great. With without him, it's gonna be
really good. But that's it. Yeah, with him, it's gonna
be like, yeah, best of the league maybe, but that's it.
That's all they've really got.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
They don't have cornered up, they don't have interior DEFENSI flying,
they don't have linebackers.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
You're way better with him, and that's why you would
pay him, right, But this is where I think Jerry
might have tipped us off on the actual number of
the contract that have been discussed.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
It's a highly sensitive time when you're guaranteeing somebody almost
two hundred million dollars, that's said STI stuff, oh.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Two hundred million dollars. So quickly, math, we're talking forty
million dollars a year, So five years, two hundred million dollars.
But that's a fully guaranteed contract. He said, almost two
hundred million dollars. Now, Jerry's a round up guy because
he's rich.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
For us.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
If we see something weight it costs twenty dollars or
does it cost seventeen dollars?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Yeah, I need to.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Know what the price this is, so that means it.
Speaker 7 (05:01):
I bet that that means that we're talking forty three,
because if you do forty three over five, you're talking
an additional fifteen million dollars right over the life of
the deal.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
And that's where you get into party. No contracts fully guaranteed.
The Cowboys probably want to do a five year deal
because this contracts go up. Michael probably wants to do
four and then be a free agent again. Dude, And
then solar Cap has gone off even more.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Yeah, they met for them to talk about leadership. Jerry
used as an opportunity to corner the suspect and talk
to him without his legal representation, got him to agree
to a deal, and then said negotiations over. There's also
and that's why they're hurt. Feelings on both sides. Micah
then went back to Mugulata or whatever his agent was like, hey,
here's and they were like, wait, whoa you negotiate without me?
(05:45):
Let me call the cowboys. They don't even take his call.
And then he went back on his handshake deal with Jerry.
So now Jerry's but hurt.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Wait, my way didn't work and we got it.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
It was was Micah being truthful when he said in
the meeting with Jerry, he said, Okay, I'll have my
agent follow up with you.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yea, who knows that could mean different thing to the
two different people that were there.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Jerry couldn't even heard that, right. Oh, oh, he's gonna
send over the paperwork. Great, we got a deal.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Well, is the deal still on the table though that
they talked about in March? And what's Jerry's message to
the fans?
Speaker 7 (06:13):
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But Kat was in the middle of playing us audio
(06:58):
of Jerry's big response to the Micah Parsons trade demand.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, let's kind of keep it going. I thought Jerry
got tripped up by this question from a legendary reporter,
John Michida from The Athletic.
Speaker 8 (07:08):
When the season ended, we talked to you about Mike
McCarthy and him potentially talking to other teams, and you
said you wanted you don't want anybody that doesn't want
to be here. Michael Parson says he doesn't want to
be here. How is that any different?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
No, no, different than a bad back.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
That's all he's got to play. He get no answer
for that. I thought that was a great question. Yeah,
because that was the McCarthy thing. If you don't want
to be here, then well he did give you an
answer there.
Speaker 7 (07:34):
He basically just said if you take him at face value,
with the implication that the back is not really bad,
he's basically saying, don't believe a word I say. Ever, Yeah,
that's ultimately what he just said to you. And also
maybe don't believe what Michael says either. Yeah, because it's
a negotiation. But I do believe that.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Man.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
I'm sure you guys got hit up all weekend along
with people asking about it.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I'm just like, dude, a man from the sauna today.
You went to the sauna. I go every day. That's
bare and the lead dude, you're just inting there with
all those old men headphones on. The guy was not
talking to me. He was talking to the guy. Next year,
did you get wear rainbow flip flops in there. Of course,
that's what you gotta do.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
I love the idea of sauna confessionals. And the guy goes,
he goes, do you follow the Dallas Cowboys? And the
gay goes, not one bit. He doesn't tell me about it?
What's going on? He goes, did you hear about what's
going on? So again, and then he goes, uh.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah, tell me about it. I don't know. So he
started explaining who George Pickens was, and because I've never
heard of him, it was amazing. I got a favor.
And it was an old guy talking to like a
younger brothers. I think he assumed that the younger brother
would be like a Cowboys fan. Now you're a black guy,
you like definite. We had that vibe and I've got
my headphones on, just kind of listening to podcast, kind
of on that.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
Okay, dude, tomorrow in the sauna with those people, please
bring up the Rod Stewart story. I will do my
best see the sailors if you can find Generally I'm alone,
but I'll do my best. All right, Three quick questions
get sprinkled in here.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Not a bit, not a bit.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I can't tell you how many hundreds of times. I've
heard that in negotiation.
Speaker 8 (09:07):
Charry, what do you think all the fans cutting his
name and I'm supporting him, and you know, hearing them
all screaming out there.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
It was just so much louder last year walking off
this field with.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Lamb, No what your city? Lamb wasn't there.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Saying it's the same thing, saying it's all the same thing,
It's all negotiation.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Have you talked to Micah in the last twenty four hours?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Do you plan on getting with him?
Speaker 4 (09:32):
And again I don't.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I don't get get into what my plans are at all.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
So I think this relationship is salvagable.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
I think the relationship is what it is.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
All right, man, I can't tell what if they even
like Michael Parsons. It might be tired of all the
stuff he does or whatever. But this is so poorly
played on the Cowboys behalf the w whole way. It's
poorly played. But Jerry's almost acting like this is all theater.
The minute you pay a guy your best friends again
and they couldn't be.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Happier to be a Dallas cowboy.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
I'm wondered if that last answer maybe Jerry is butt hurt,
and he's like, how dare Mike could go back on
his deal?
Speaker 5 (10:14):
That's exactly what he thinks. He is hurt that he
went back on the deal that Jerry negotiated.
Speaker 7 (10:19):
Yeah, and so maybe Jerry doesn't want to patch things up.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Here's a message to the fans here.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Don't lose in sleepover.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
So just to be one thing I would say to
our fan, don't lose in sleepover.
Speaker 7 (10:32):
Okay, don't worry about it, Jerry, we stopped losing sleep
over the way this organization runs fifteen twenty years ago.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
You hired Dave Campo. We stopped losing sleepover. There is
a long time ago.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
He's basically acting like this is this is part of
the theater that helps our brand. There's all this drama
we're in all the headlines. This is not real beef.
We're about to be best friends again. He's gonna make
a ton of money. Don't lose any sleep We're good.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
And in fairness and all this is happening. Jerry has
no idea of the Nicki Minaj thing that's about to happen.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I think you haven't lost sleepover, but I think there's
a good healthy portion of cowboys fans who have over
the Mica thing. Every one of these does they care
if you got a cowboy game? It's nuts out there, dude,
I care. I just there's people who stand, they stand
on the deck to watch the game, or they can't
even see the stadium. I mean, they can see the field.
Don't you think they already know the outcome?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
This?
Speaker 5 (11:29):
I do, And I think this is the most They're
going to be talked about all year because they're going
to suck. They won't be able to stop anybody.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Netflix.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
This is good juice for them, This is good juice
for their brand, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Is the Jerry is the deal from March still on
the table?
Speaker 6 (11:45):
If the offer you had in Mars still on the table,
the deal the offer.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
You had in March, that's a great drop.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
If the offer you had in Mars steel on the table.
What the deal you had in March, the meeting of
the mind and that's still on the stage.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Michael took it off.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
He took it off. With that, he took it off.
He took it off. I'm just saying he took it off.
I'm not don't put an answer there, please, Okay. He
took it off and because of that. That's why it's
very important.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Okay, but yes, he's butt hurt that he didn't accept
the deal. He went back to his agent after that,
His agents like, what, I can get you a.
Speaker 7 (12:22):
Better deal than that. Oh, let me call the cowboys.
Oh they're not answering.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
The cowboys are saying, we already have a deal. You
agreed to a handshake deal Like this is that's what
this is? And doesn't this really make way more sense
about Jerry saying I don't even know the agent's name. Like,
if you go back and look at how it's all
play now, it's like, here's like I have a deal
with that person. You don't matter. How dare you insert
yourself in my deal with him? Even though I know
good and well that that has goes against everything that
(12:49):
the NFL Players Association is set up.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
The agent is Nicki Minaj in this case, she inserted
herself into it. Okay, this is just classic Jerry old
time he talked.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
When mama wouldn't let me do something, going to daddy
and Daddy let me do it, and going back in
saying Obama, Daddy said I could do it. I've had
old Mamma daddy stuff. We got here doing that by nature,
so I'm we're not going to do that. Don't get
the analogy, do you?
Speaker 4 (13:15):
We agree?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
But let me see if I can get my agent
that on it. That mama daddy deal that's been going
on since we all got here.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
It's like it's it's it's going to both parents. Yeah,
he's basically using that analogy. You I said, you can't
do it. You didn't like the answer, so then you
went and asked your mom, why is Jerry married to
Mugolata is No, this doesn't make sense. Jerry in here,
mama and daddy. I'm a he'll be Here's the last one.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
It's Jerry being just a little a little bit snarky here.
But he just say he offered a ton of money.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
I can be cute and I'm gonna be Uh.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
It lasted into the third game with him, and we
won the super Bowl. But again, that's to call the negotiation.
Parts of it positive, parts of it negative. They're positive
if we can come to an agreement that fits what
we've paid other players, what we're gonna pay other players.
What y'all don't know is is what I offered him
(14:11):
and it's a hell of lot more than you think
I did. That's what you don't know?
Speaker 1 (14:16):
What was that again? Who asked that? Michona? God good?
Speaker 4 (14:25):
What was that again.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Again?
Speaker 7 (14:29):
It feels like once every forty eight hours, Jerry forgets
that Jimmy was the coach when they went back to
back Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
So it's amazing. Also, this old idea and that went away.
Three guys. I don't know, if you looked at the
Cowboys schedule, they really do need to get out to
hot start. So it'd be great if Michael was there
ready and be practicing and all that. All right, fantastic stuff,
all right.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
Coming up next, it's the weekly Weekday Update, the passing
of two absolute legends. We'll discuss both, and then we
got to fight McMahon's way back machine coming your way
to wrap things up.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
All that's coming up next on The Eagle
A fella cowboy.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Surprise.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
All right, it's Saturday. Jerry Jones walks out to the
practice field and this is, you know, about twenty four
hours after Michael Parsons formally told the world that he
doesn't want to be a cowboy anymore and wants to
be traded. So we got to ask Jerry all these questions.
So here's a let's just kind of get started here.
(00:34):
So are you considering it?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I'm not. I think of the world of miahp that's
just part of negotiation.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Would you ever consider trading him? Again?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I don't really place that with any real seriousness. You know,
Mike has got a bad back? What that's like being traded?
Did the request take the way of to say?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
All right?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
All right?
Speaker 5 (00:56):
So he says bad back is why mic is not practicing. No,
he's saying, uh, it's all in negotiation. Micah has a
fake back injury, and here's a fake trade request. Like
it's not it's all negotiation, it's all pretend land.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
He's dismissing it as nothing because honestly, it kind of is.
Because Micah can't just be traded. I mean you can't
if they want to. And tomorrow on the show kind of.
I've got some scenarios of what you could actually like
the hall could be. But we'll do that tomorrow. But
is bat what if his fake bad back carries over
in the week? One man, Just keep bad back in
(01:31):
your pocket for a minute, because it's gonna keep It's
gonna keep going that way. When did the negotiations really start?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Jerry, I'm starting negotiations in March with his age, I said,
I started negotiation in March, and I've negotiated double handfuls
and contracts just like I did in March.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
He thought it was again again again again?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Are you asking me? Yeah, I started that in March.
Go to the negotiationsgotiating.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
The meeting was about leadership, not about his contract.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
It's my it's my answer. I was negotiating in March.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
I'm surprised he's gotten to this point.
Speaker 7 (02:04):
Not really, boy, he was. You're ready for Todd Archer
to shut up that? He just said, whatever Clarence woul happen?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Really not really? Uh? A little contentious there, Yeah, watch
you for that code word again. He just doesn't like
when you ask him to be real.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Yeah, no, for sure. And now I'm just asking you
a real question. He is purposefully playing the villain in wrestling. Yeah,
and he's the villain. He's trying to it's it's w
W or whatever. He's the bad guy.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
And I do know that this was not a setup
meeting time. He was walking after practice. The media is
following him to see. All they gotta do. All he's
got to do is just keep walking where he's going.
They can't grab him and make Jerry talk, right, and
he wanted to do it. So here we go. Do
you expect him to be on the field.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Week one again?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I don't want to talk about my expectations now that
is speculating.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
Is it good to see him? It's still at practice though,
even if he made the demand, but he's still out
of here.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Well, I wish the bank would get better, he wis.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
So again again, I just said I wish the bank
would get better so we could not have a herd back.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Wow job because if michaeh leaves, If Michael leaves, he
gets fined fifty thousand dollars a day. So Mike's like,
I'll just go hang out of practice, dude. Micah is
just throwing the ball around. He's hanging out with the
quarterback some now shot, he said in the meetings he's
been very engaged asking questions and he's being being a
(03:41):
great teammate. No, you don't have to have a healthy
back for the meetings. He's out there throw it literally,
you know the games they throw, they try to throw
the ball through the tire and the net. Like he's
out there doing stuff like that with a third quarterback, Will.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Greer, How different is their defense going to be with
a new coordinator and him being their best player?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Isn't it?
Speaker 5 (04:00):
And give up a lot of soft I know they're
gonna give up. I know they're gonna be the worst
defense in the league.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
No, they're gonna be good. Probably know they're not. They
need him to. Like, their pass rush is amazing, their
pass rush is great. With without him, it's gonna be
really good. But that's it. Yeah, with him, it's gonna
be like, yeah, best of the league maybe, but that's it.
That's all they've really got.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
They don't have cornered up, they don't have interior DEFENSI flying,
they don't have linebackers.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
You're way better with him, and that's why you would
pay him, right, But this is where I think Jerry
might have tipped us off on the actual number of
the contract that have been discussed.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
It's a highly sensitive time when you're guaranteeing somebody almost
two hundred million dollars, that's said STI stuff, oh.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Two hundred million dollars. So quickly, math, we're talking forty
million dollars a year, So five years, two hundred million dollars.
But that's a fully guaranteed contract. He said, almost two
hundred million dollars. Now, Jerry's a round up guy because
he's rich.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
For us.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
If we see something weight it costs twenty dollars or
does it cost seventeen dollars?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Yeah, I need to.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Know what the price this is, so that means it.
Speaker 7 (05:01):
I bet that that means that we're talking forty three,
because if you do forty three over five, you're talking
an additional fifteen million dollars right over the life of
the deal.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
And that's where you get into party. No contracts fully guaranteed.
The Cowboys probably want to do a five year deal
because this contracts go up. Michael probably wants to do
four and then be a free agent again. Dude, And
then solar Cap has gone off even more.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Yeah, they met for them to talk about leadership. Jerry
used as an opportunity to corner the suspect and talk
to him without his legal representation, got him to agree
to a deal, and then said negotiations over. There's also
and that's why they're hurt. Feelings on both sides. Micah
then went back to Mugulata or whatever his agent was like, hey,
here's and they were like, wait, whoa you negotiate without me?
(05:45):
Let me call the cowboys. They don't even take his call.
And then he went back on his handshake deal with Jerry.
So now Jerry's but hurt.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Wait, my way didn't work and we got it.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
It was was Micah being truthful when he said in
the meeting with Jerry, he said, Okay, I'll have my
agent follow up with you.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yea, who knows that could mean different thing to the
two different people that were there.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Jerry couldn't even heard that, right. Oh, oh, he's gonna
send over the paperwork. Great, we got a deal.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Well, is the deal still on the table though that
they talked about in March? And what's Jerry's message to
the fans?
Speaker 7 (06:13):
Ben in skin Show ninety seven point one, The Eagle
this segment right here is brought to you by our guy,
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But Kat was in the middle of playing us audio
(06:58):
of Jerry's big response to the Micah Parsons trade demand.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, let's kind of keep it going. I thought Jerry
got tripped up by this question from a legendary reporter,
John Michida from The Athletic.
Speaker 8 (07:08):
When the season ended, we talked to you about Mike
McCarthy and him potentially talking to other teams, and you
said you wanted you don't want anybody that doesn't want
to be here. Michael Parson says he doesn't want to
be here. How is that any different?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
No, no, different than a bad back.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
That's all he's got to play. He get no answer
for that. I thought that was a great question. Yeah,
because that was the McCarthy thing. If you don't want
to be here, then well he did give you an
answer there.
Speaker 7 (07:34):
He basically just said if you take him at face value,
with the implication that the back is not really bad,
he's basically saying, don't believe a word I say. Ever, Yeah,
that's ultimately what he just said to you. And also
maybe don't believe what Michael says either. Yeah, because it's
a negotiation. But I do believe that.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Man.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
I'm sure you guys got hit up all weekend along
with people asking about it.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I'm just like, dude, a man from the sauna today.
You went to the sauna. I go every day. That's
bare and the lead dude, you're just inting there with
all those old men headphones on. The guy was not
talking to me. He was talking to the guy. Next year,
did you get wear rainbow flip flops in there. Of course,
that's what you gotta do.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
I love the idea of sauna confessionals. And the guy goes,
he goes, do you follow the Dallas Cowboys? And the
gay goes, not one bit. He doesn't tell me about it?
What's going on? He goes, did you hear about what's
going on? So again, and then he goes, uh.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah, tell me about it. I don't know. So he
started explaining who George Pickens was, and because I've never
heard of him, it was amazing. I got a favor.
And it was an old guy talking to like a
younger brothers. I think he assumed that the younger brother
would be like a Cowboys fan. Now you're a black guy,
you like definite. We had that vibe and I've got
my headphones on, just kind of listening to podcast, kind
of on that.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
Okay, dude, tomorrow in the sauna with those people, please
bring up the Rod Stewart story. I will do my
best see the sailors if you can find Generally I'm alone,
but I'll do my best. All right, Three quick questions
get sprinkled in here.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Not a bit, not a bit.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I can't tell you how many hundreds of times. I've
heard that in negotiation.
Speaker 8 (09:07):
Charry, what do you think all the fans cutting his
name and I'm supporting him, and you know, hearing them
all screaming out there.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
It was just so much louder last year walking off
this field with.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Lamb, No what your city? Lamb wasn't there.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Saying it's the same thing, saying it's all the same thing,
It's all negotiation.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Have you talked to Micah in the last twenty four hours?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Do you plan on getting with him?
Speaker 4 (09:32):
And again I don't.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I don't get get into what my plans are at all.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
So I think this relationship is salvagable.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
I think the relationship is what it is.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
All right, man, I can't tell what if they even
like Michael Parsons. It might be tired of all the
stuff he does or whatever. But this is so poorly
played on the Cowboys behalf the w whole way. It's
poorly played. But Jerry's almost acting like this is all theater.
The minute you pay a guy your best friends again
and they couldn't be.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Happier to be a Dallas cowboy.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
I'm wondered if that last answer maybe Jerry is butt hurt,
and he's like, how dare Mike could go back on
his deal?
Speaker 5 (10:14):
That's exactly what he thinks. He is hurt that he
went back on the deal that Jerry negotiated.
Speaker 7 (10:19):
Yeah, and so maybe Jerry doesn't want to patch things up.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Here's a message to the fans here.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Don't lose in sleepover.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
So just to be one thing I would say to
our fan, don't lose in sleepover.
Speaker 7 (10:32):
Okay, don't worry about it, Jerry, we stopped losing sleep
over the way this organization runs fifteen twenty years ago.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
You hired Dave Campo. We stopped losing sleepover. There is
a long time ago.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
He's basically acting like this is this is part of
the theater that helps our brand. There's all this drama
we're in all the headlines. This is not real beef.
We're about to be best friends again. He's gonna make
a ton of money. Don't lose any sleep We're good.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
And in fairness and all this is happening. Jerry has
no idea of the Nicki Minaj thing that's about to happen.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I think you haven't lost sleepover, but I think there's
a good healthy portion of cowboys fans who have over
the Mica thing. Every one of these does they care
if you got a cowboy game? It's nuts out there, dude,
I care. I just there's people who stand, they stand
on the deck to watch the game, or they can't
even see the stadium. I mean, they can see the field.
Don't you think they already know the outcome?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
This?
Speaker 5 (11:29):
I do, And I think this is the most They're
going to be talked about all year because they're going
to suck. They won't be able to stop anybody.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Netflix.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
This is good juice for them, This is good juice
for their brand, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Is the Jerry is the deal from March still on
the table?
Speaker 6 (11:45):
If the offer you had in Mars still on the table,
the deal the offer.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
You had in March, that's a great drop.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
If the offer you had in Mars steel on the table.
What the deal you had in March, the meeting of
the mind and that's still on the stage.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Michael took it off.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
He took it off. With that, he took it off.
He took it off. I'm just saying he took it off.
I'm not don't put an answer there, please, Okay. He
took it off and because of that. That's why it's
very important.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Okay, but yes, he's butt hurt that he didn't accept
the deal. He went back to his agent after that,
His agents like, what, I can get you a.
Speaker 7 (12:22):
Better deal than that. Oh, let me call the cowboys.
Oh they're not answering.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
The cowboys are saying, we already have a deal. You
agreed to a handshake deal Like this is that's what
this is? And doesn't this really make way more sense
about Jerry saying I don't even know the agent's name. Like,
if you go back and look at how it's all
play now, it's like, here's like I have a deal
with that person. You don't matter. How dare you insert
yourself in my deal with him? Even though I know
good and well that that has goes against everything that
(12:49):
the NFL Players Association is set up.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
The agent is Nicki Minaj in this case, she inserted
herself into it. Okay, this is just classic Jerry old
time he talked.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
When mama wouldn't let me do something, going to daddy
and Daddy let me do it, and going back in
saying Obama, Daddy said I could do it. I've had
old Mamma daddy stuff. We got here doing that by nature,
so I'm we're not going to do that. Don't get
the analogy, do you?
Speaker 4 (13:15):
We agree?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
But let me see if I can get my agent
that on it. That mama daddy deal that's been going
on since we all got here.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
It's like it's it's it's going to both parents. Yeah,
he's basically using that analogy. You I said, you can't
do it. You didn't like the answer, so then you
went and asked your mom, why is Jerry married to
Mugolata is No, this doesn't make sense. Jerry in here,
mama and daddy. I'm a he'll be Here's the last one.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
It's Jerry being just a little a little bit snarky here.
But he just say he offered a ton of money.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
I can be cute and I'm gonna be Uh.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
It lasted into the third game with him, and we
won the super Bowl. But again, that's to call the negotiation.
Parts of it positive, parts of it negative. They're positive
if we can come to an agreement that fits what
we've paid other players, what we're gonna pay other players.
What y'all don't know is is what I offered him
(14:11):
and it's a hell of lot more than you think
I did. That's what you don't know?
Speaker 1 (14:16):
What was that again? Who asked that? Michona? God good?
Speaker 4 (14:25):
What was that again.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Again?
Speaker 7 (14:29):
It feels like once every forty eight hours, Jerry forgets
that Jimmy was the coach when they went back to
back Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
So it's amazing. Also, this old idea and that went away.
Three guys. I don't know, if you looked at the
Cowboys schedule, they really do need to get out to
hot start. So it'd be great if Michael was there
ready and be practicing and all that. All right, fantastic stuff,
all right.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
Coming up next, it's the weekly Weekday Update, the passing
of two absolute legends. We'll discuss both, and then we
got to fight McMahon's way back machine coming your way
to wrap things up.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
All that's coming up next on The Eagle
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