July 15, 2025 • 6 mins
Is “Die Hard” really the greatest Christmas movie of all time—or is it just a summer blockbuster in disguise?In this laugh-out-loud episode of The Ben and Skin Show, Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina “K-Ray” Ray dive headfirst into one of pop culture’s most hotly contested debates: the true identity of Die Hard. Released on this day in 1988, the action classic sparks a hilarious and surprisingly deep conversation that blends movie trivia, wild guesses, and nostalgic storytelling.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It said, right, an't I just I'll just cut walk.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I've seen it, seen me see it.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
I heard with epic with I'll show You're gone rubin
in gigs were simple for me pursuing it. Hold out
Shaw shaking through the sewer.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Dude, now what chilling? I think?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Eagle, Yeah, we're doing it. Bring your clocking on the dot.
Got a habit for my house or go stat is
how it started kicking. Crabbit shows that up multiplied like
a rabbit. Tune ins out, crank it up, beat the habit.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I wanna hang out with her friends, rocking on the radio,
my hole on boys getting in talking on the radio.
It's time to do this. SPONSI all we go, KG,
Christine up.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
All the.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Ah Yeah alone, Welcome. This is the Ben and Skin Show.
Ben Rogers, Jeff skin Wade, Kevin kt Turner, Christina Kray,
Cornbread little Baby Cornbread Ray. We're off and running. Got
a great show. I believe. I think I was part
of that pre show meeting, so I heard some good stuff.
I do know this. In the today game, Today we
will celebrate that Diehard was released on this day in
(01:24):
nineteen eighty eight. Huge. So what is the math on
that how old is that? So forty eight? No, I'm sorry,
thirty eight okay, in nineteen eighty eight, Yeah, thirty thirty seven,
thirty seven thirty and anyone can even calculate that thirty
seven years old. And so this movie, most people agree,
(01:46):
the greatest movie ever made. I mean and curious about
Christina and KT if they've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
It, Oh my god, yes, no.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
You know how like when people that normally just do
sports talk yeah, and then their program director tells them, Hey, man,
I wants to do some lifestyle stuff. The first thing
they do is die Hard a Christmas movie. Yeah, yep,
this is evidence against it, because you don't release a
Christmas movie in July.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
It is evidence.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
That's a good point. You know what I'm saying. You
know what I'm saying, dog, But I believe it's the
greatest Christmas movie of all time. It is happening at
Christmas at the I have some data here about this movie.
Bruce Willis received five million dollars to do this movie,
which at the time was a lot of money. Hell yeah,
so wait, so let me think about this too. So
eighty eight, this was probably his first gigantic role in
(02:42):
the movie. He was wildly successful on TV with Moonlighting,
and I'm trying to think what movie he would have
done before this.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Wait, I'm on it Taxi?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Right?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Is that after?
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Well, I don't even know Taxi.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
You don't know it?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Then I'm to totally he's in some movie where he's
a taxi driver.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I'm more a fan of his music career, so I
haven't followed it too much from the acting standpoint.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
What do you have on his on his timeline before Diehard? Uh,
I'm having a trouble remembering it, Ben, I don't know
that I have anything. Yeah, so he was a huge
TV star, so if he got five million dollars to
do one of his first movies, that was quite a gamble.
And man, that was a good gamble because that movie
(03:29):
was huge. Yeah, movie was badass. And uh so there's
a Alan Rickman is the bad guy in this Hans Gruber, Yes,
rest in Peace. And many people feel like it's the
greatest villain of all time? Is that right? And it's
either him or Darth Vader. It's him or Darth Vader,
(03:51):
one or the other. But he was a great villain
in that movie. And Kat, since you've never seen it, Yeah, no,
would you just mind telling us what it's about. I'd
love to know what you think it's about. As an outsider, so.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I know that there's something that goes down at Knocko
Tommy Plaza.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Someone's got a bomb in the building. I'm guessing some
type of terrorist attack, and he is I'm gonna assume
FBI or CIA, maybe some military experience, and he's called
upon to save the day.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
They got background. He's John McCain.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Gosh, darn it, he probably served.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Well.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Why is he there because they he's the best of
the best. He's seen a lot of good movies. Do
you remember why he is there, Christina?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Because his ex wife wife is in the building.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I think he's just a cop, right, He's a cop
from like Jersey. He's not like FBI. Right. He is
there to try to reconcile with his wife there. I
think they've split up. They may not be divorced, but
they're still spark there and they're still trying to re engage.
And he is, I guess, come in and just arrive
from the airport and he's there to visit her and
(05:01):
they're having their big Christmas party, right, Because it's a
Christmas movie. But here's the weird thing about it is
he gets entangled into trying to stop this international terrorist
ring from doing what they're doing at Naco Toomi Plaza.
He'd befriends Arkle's neighbor, and that's where it really gets Strangekies.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
You talking about Carl Tunican weathers No, Carl Tunican Winslow?
Is that the name of the Dada family man? We
did celebrity nickname. We didn't name their dongs. That was
a segment.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
God's yeah. I have a question for you guys. How
if you had to guess, let's see who, whoever can
get the closest to this wins ten billion dollars. The
rest are dead by firing squad. Before the end of
the segment, the costume department had how many undershirts? Oh wow,
(05:57):
in various stages of degradation on hand for Bruce Willis,
Because keep in mind, he's got an undershirt on and
then he's barefoot, and so he's having to walk around
step on glass and he's fighting and battling in this
building the whole time. How many of those shirts did
they have for him?
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Real quick? My mom could never get over the fact
that he was barefoot the whole time. Every time we
watch it, she says that.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
You go first.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Me.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, remember your life's on the line.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I mean, obviously it's going to be a high number,
or else you wouldn't bring it up.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Sniper's training on you. Right now.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
I see the dot, I see the glint in the distance.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Fifty Kevin probably took six months to film this thing.
Thirty days in a month.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I'll say one hundred and eighty. Oh, I'll go fifty
one seventeen. Skin's closest Katie and Christina die was a
good run, pheno'menna work all right? Coming up next? Where
are you going to take us in things? Skin is
tracking well, I'm tracking all sorts of things. People keep
asking me if we're getting lebron but would you pay
forty thousand dollars for this
It said, right, an't I just I'll just cut walk.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I've seen it, seen me see it.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
I heard with epic with I'll show You're gone rubin
in gigs were simple for me pursuing it. Hold out
Shaw shaking through the sewer.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Dude, now what chilling? I think?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Eagle, Yeah, we're doing it. Bring your clocking on the dot.
Got a habit for my house or go stat is
how it started kicking. Crabbit shows that up multiplied like
a rabbit. Tune ins out, crank it up, beat the habit.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I wanna hang out with her friends, rocking on the radio,
my hole on boys getting in talking on the radio.
It's time to do this. SPONSI all we go, KG,
Christine up.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
All the.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Ah Yeah alone, Welcome. This is the Ben and Skin Show.
Ben Rogers, Jeff skin Wade, Kevin kt Turner, Christina Kray,
Cornbread little Baby Cornbread Ray. We're off and running. Got
a great show. I believe. I think I was part
of that pre show meeting, so I heard some good stuff.
I do know this. In the today game, Today we
will celebrate that Diehard was released on this day in
(01:24):
nineteen eighty eight. Huge. So what is the math on
that how old is that? So forty eight? No, I'm sorry,
thirty eight okay, in nineteen eighty eight, Yeah, thirty thirty seven,
thirty seven thirty and anyone can even calculate that thirty
seven years old. And so this movie, most people agree,
(01:46):
the greatest movie ever made. I mean and curious about
Christina and KT if they've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
It, Oh my god, yes, no.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
You know how like when people that normally just do
sports talk yeah, and then their program director tells them, Hey, man,
I wants to do some lifestyle stuff. The first thing
they do is die Hard a Christmas movie. Yeah, yep,
this is evidence against it, because you don't release a
Christmas movie in July.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
It is evidence.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
That's a good point. You know what I'm saying. You
know what I'm saying, dog, But I believe it's the
greatest Christmas movie of all time. It is happening at
Christmas at the I have some data here about this movie.
Bruce Willis received five million dollars to do this movie,
which at the time was a lot of money. Hell yeah,
so wait, so let me think about this too. So
eighty eight, this was probably his first gigantic role in
(02:42):
the movie. He was wildly successful on TV with Moonlighting,
and I'm trying to think what movie he would have
done before this.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Wait, I'm on it Taxi?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Right?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Is that after?
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Well, I don't even know Taxi.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
You don't know it?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Then I'm to totally he's in some movie where he's
a taxi driver.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I'm more a fan of his music career, so I
haven't followed it too much from the acting standpoint.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
What do you have on his on his timeline before Diehard? Uh,
I'm having a trouble remembering it, Ben, I don't know
that I have anything. Yeah, so he was a huge
TV star, so if he got five million dollars to
do one of his first movies, that was quite a gamble.
And man, that was a good gamble because that movie
(03:29):
was huge. Yeah, movie was badass. And uh so there's
a Alan Rickman is the bad guy in this Hans Gruber, Yes,
rest in Peace. And many people feel like it's the
greatest villain of all time? Is that right? And it's
either him or Darth Vader. It's him or Darth Vader,
(03:51):
one or the other. But he was a great villain
in that movie. And Kat, since you've never seen it, Yeah, no,
would you just mind telling us what it's about. I'd
love to know what you think it's about. As an outsider, so.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I know that there's something that goes down at Knocko
Tommy Plaza.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Someone's got a bomb in the building. I'm guessing some
type of terrorist attack, and he is I'm gonna assume
FBI or CIA, maybe some military experience, and he's called
upon to save the day.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
They got background. He's John McCain.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Gosh, darn it, he probably served.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Well.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Why is he there because they he's the best of
the best. He's seen a lot of good movies. Do
you remember why he is there, Christina?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Because his ex wife wife is in the building.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I think he's just a cop, right, He's a cop
from like Jersey. He's not like FBI. Right. He is
there to try to reconcile with his wife there. I
think they've split up. They may not be divorced, but
they're still spark there and they're still trying to re engage.
And he is, I guess, come in and just arrive
from the airport and he's there to visit her and
(05:01):
they're having their big Christmas party, right, Because it's a
Christmas movie. But here's the weird thing about it is
he gets entangled into trying to stop this international terrorist
ring from doing what they're doing at Naco Toomi Plaza.
He'd befriends Arkle's neighbor, and that's where it really gets Strangekies.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
You talking about Carl Tunican weathers No, Carl Tunican Winslow?
Is that the name of the Dada family man? We
did celebrity nickname. We didn't name their dongs. That was
a segment.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
God's yeah. I have a question for you guys. How
if you had to guess, let's see who, whoever can
get the closest to this wins ten billion dollars. The
rest are dead by firing squad. Before the end of
the segment, the costume department had how many undershirts? Oh wow,
(05:57):
in various stages of degradation on hand for Bruce Willis,
Because keep in mind, he's got an undershirt on and
then he's barefoot, and so he's having to walk around
step on glass and he's fighting and battling in this
building the whole time. How many of those shirts did
they have for him?
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Real quick? My mom could never get over the fact
that he was barefoot the whole time. Every time we
watch it, she says that.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
You go first.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Me.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, remember your life's on the line.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I mean, obviously it's going to be a high number,
or else you wouldn't bring it up.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Sniper's training on you. Right now.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
I see the dot, I see the glint in the distance.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Fifty Kevin probably took six months to film this thing.
Thirty days in a month.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I'll say one hundred and eighty. Oh, I'll go fifty
one seventeen. Skin's closest Katie and Christina die was a
good run, pheno'menna work all right? Coming up next? Where
are you going to take us in things? Skin is
tracking well, I'm tracking all sorts of things. People keep
asking me if we're getting lebron but would you pay
forty thousand dollars for this
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