May 29, 2025 • 8 mins
What happens when the Mavericks and Stars break up after decades of sharing a home—and why does it feel like the end of an era?In this jam-packed episode of The Ben and Skin Show, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray hold down the fort while Ben Rogers is away, and they’re bringing the heat with a hilarious, insightful, and slightly chaotic ride through Dallas sports and local culture.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Ben and Skin Show ninety seven point one the Eagle,
and we're flipping things around. This segment right here is
brought to you by Rollertown Beer Works. That's the brewery
there in Solina, Texas. At Me and Ben are partners
in and we got so many exciting things coming up
here in the summer and then going on into the fall,
we're going to be opening our new mothership in Frisco.
(00:21):
We have a big Rollertown Open golf tournament on October
the fourteenth that supports the National Breast Cancer Foundation, which
by the way, if he didn't know, is based right
there in Frisco. There's cool. You know it's going to
be a fun day. You can get signed up for
the tournament, you can their sponsorship opportunities, all that stuff.
You should be following Rollertown Beer Works on all the
social media platforms for all the things we have coming up.
(00:44):
And then of course if you want to get beer
to go and you can't get all the way up
to the brewery in Salina, that's okay. We have a
lot of our styles out in cans all across the metroplex.
Almost every Tom Thumb has it. Almost every Albertson's Total
Wine and more, HTB, on and on. If you're a
buyer at a chain store or anything like that, you
(01:04):
want to carry us, We're carried by Benny Keith. Reach
out to your Benny Keith distributor and they can get you.
Roller Town Beer Works right there in Salina, partners with
Ben Rodgers and a lot of people that you would enjoy.
But right now it's time.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
For this bankin track another edition of things in his traffic.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Thank you, Pam. Do you guys care? So there was
another round of articles that came out today because Rick
Welts went and did something for Wall Street. Rick Welts
is the CEO of the MAVs and he went and
did something and he was interviewed, and so there's a
lot of things that came out of it, and there's
all these articles that are written about it. But people
are leaning back in on the Hey, he said it
(01:50):
once again. The Mavericks and the Stars are going to
no longer be roommates. They've been down in that building
I think for thirty two years.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Does that sound because it started what like two thousand
or nineteen nine?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
O oh, you know what, it's twenty three years. Yeah,
I'm sorry, I had those Yeah, I had those numbers reversed,
not thirty two twenty three does and so because the
Stars won the Cup of ninety nine at Reunion. Yeah,
and we've been going down to that. Hell, you, Christina,
for a long time worked next to the American Airline
Center when you worked at the Ticket, because that's right
(02:24):
there too. Okay, so you were the Ticket had already
moved there when you worked there.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
By the way, I turned the lights off at the
old place off at Maple What what year was that?
It had to be twenty twelve maybe.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Okay, Yeah, me and Ben we're at ESPN at that time.
We left the Ticket in two thousand and eight. But anyways,
who cares about all that? Uh So, you guys were
going to that building for both all the time and
still do now. Obviously. For me, I go to every
mav home game. I mean there's probably only two or
three a year that I miss if it's a national
(02:58):
broadcast and I just can't make it out. But even
if it's national broadcast, I still try to go. So
I'm at that building for that all the time. I
do go to Stars games occasionally, but because there concurrent
with basketball season, I can't be there every damn night,
so it probably affects me a lot less than it
would affect other people that they're not going to be
in the same building together anymore. Do you guys have
(03:19):
any sentimental attachment to the idea that they're in the
same building. Do you guys care at all?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I mean, I mentioned this last time we brought it up.
I just like the fact that it is kind of
like a coming together of both fan bases, you know,
and them both being in the same spot, to me
is really cool. And we have two statues outside of
both Madonno and n Novitzky No. I don't really know how
they're gonna handle that, right, And the street is called
(03:44):
Navitsky Way, right. I love the idea of the teams
being together the occasional. I know it's tough on the
people that work at the arena, but the occasional four
or five times a year where the Stars to play
a day game and the MAVs to play that night
a double dip, and it's just a buzzing thing, right,
and the co mingling of our sports teams.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
But this is not happening that often. Anymore. There's five
or six now that still do the basketball and Honky,
So how it makes sense that the MAVs would separate.
I've lost sentimental value to the American Airline Center because
I remember as a kid being there and seeing it
from the highway. But with all the high rises and
what's happening over there with luxury apartments, I really have
(04:21):
lost my attachment to it.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
The other thing too, And this is some real and
I get what you're saying, and this is some real,
like insider high falutin bougie crap. But I don't have
to deal with the parking issue that other people have
to sure with. And if I were to go to
a Stars game, I can reach out to somebody and
get parking. And I really do genuinely feel for the
(04:44):
average person sports fan that just parking down there absolutely sucks.
So I wonder about that now. It seems like the
Stars have it said this publicly in you know, an
affirmative way. I predict that they stay in that building, yeah,
(05:05):
and you know, and own that building like they already
co own it, you know what I'm saying, But like
that becomes the House of the Stars, and you know,
there's probably gonna be even more concerts there if the
Mavericks aren't there. We're still six or seven years away
from that house.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Well, and that was my next thought is there's a
lot of businesses down there that kind of rely on
these sports crowds coming in almost every single night.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So what are they gonna do if there's no more
MAVs games.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
They need way more concerts. Okay, they need way more concerts.
But no, you bring up a good point, and that's
the whole thing about real estate. What part of town
quote unquote stays hot and all that stuff. I mean,
I'm really interested in what's happening down in the Design
District because I think it's always been a cool, interesting
kind of area. Man, people are getting priced out of
(05:53):
that thing because all these outside developers bought it up
and they want super high end clients because super high
in Flans will pay super high end rent, and so
it starts changing the complexion of a neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
For a concert, we're talking about fifteen thousand or so
at the American AirLand Center. I know twenty thousand capacity,
but fifteen thousand for a concert. But that's where Dicky's
in Fort Worth has kind of taken that where you
would see a lot of shows at the American Aland Center.
Those mans just go to Dickies now, and they like
it because Dickies is nice. It sounds great, and I
think you see a lot of that, and you're tapping
into Fourth's. Fourth is almost just as big as Dallas,
(06:27):
Like it's an easy right off right there. But like
that size of a venue is needed in town because
outside of Dosequi's Pavilion, you don't have a venue that's
big enough to fit a ten to fifteen thousand, you know,
yeah for concerts, like they do need to utilize it
more for concerts, No, they absolutely do.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
And I also wonder too, like whatever the Mavericks build,
they're going to do concerts there too. It's not going
to be a basketball only They're saying, hey, it's a
basketball only arena, but there's still going to be concerts there. Yeah,
And let's face it, depending on where there it is.
I mean, we know who owns the Mavericks and what
their background is. The second that you know gaming is
(07:06):
legal here, they're going to be you know, every casino
has a concert venue because you want concerts there.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
You know how awesome it would be like during halftime
to just go play some slots or whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Oh would be's so good? Oh hold on, I know
we got a hustle bit. Yeah, the Dallas Wings could
hypothetically absolutely play where the Stars play, right.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I mean the Wings could go play where the Maps play.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Well they could, but they's there's still their seasons happen happening. Well, yeah,
the season.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
You see what I'm saying, Like we're years away. Why
wouldn't if it's a basketball, if it's built in basketball,
why wouldn't the Wings go there?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
And you know the w NBA plays way fewer games anyways,
I'm just I'm interested in all this from our perspective
as fans and what we are sentimentally attached to. All Right,
it's the Ben and Skin Show, ninety seven point one
The Eagle. It happened last night. John Laney fought three
fourteen year olds and we'll talk about it next right
here on the Eagle
The Ben and Skin Show ninety seven point one the Eagle,
and we're flipping things around. This segment right here is
brought to you by Rollertown Beer Works. That's the brewery
there in Solina, Texas. At Me and Ben are partners
in and we got so many exciting things coming up
here in the summer and then going on into the fall,
we're going to be opening our new mothership in Frisco.
(00:21):
We have a big Rollertown Open golf tournament on October
the fourteenth that supports the National Breast Cancer Foundation, which
by the way, if he didn't know, is based right
there in Frisco. There's cool. You know it's going to
be a fun day. You can get signed up for
the tournament, you can their sponsorship opportunities, all that stuff.
You should be following Rollertown Beer Works on all the
social media platforms for all the things we have coming up.
(00:44):
And then of course if you want to get beer
to go and you can't get all the way up
to the brewery in Salina, that's okay. We have a
lot of our styles out in cans all across the metroplex.
Almost every Tom Thumb has it. Almost every Albertson's Total
Wine and more, HTB, on and on. If you're a
buyer at a chain store or anything like that, you
(01:04):
want to carry us, We're carried by Benny Keith. Reach
out to your Benny Keith distributor and they can get you.
Roller Town Beer Works right there in Salina, partners with
Ben Rodgers and a lot of people that you would enjoy.
But right now it's time.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
For this bankin track another edition of things in his traffic.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Thank you, Pam. Do you guys care? So there was
another round of articles that came out today because Rick
Welts went and did something for Wall Street. Rick Welts
is the CEO of the MAVs and he went and
did something and he was interviewed, and so there's a
lot of things that came out of it, and there's
all these articles that are written about it. But people
are leaning back in on the Hey, he said it
(01:50):
once again. The Mavericks and the Stars are going to
no longer be roommates. They've been down in that building
I think for thirty two years.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Does that sound because it started what like two thousand
or nineteen nine?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
O oh, you know what, it's twenty three years. Yeah,
I'm sorry, I had those Yeah, I had those numbers reversed,
not thirty two twenty three does and so because the
Stars won the Cup of ninety nine at Reunion. Yeah,
and we've been going down to that. Hell, you, Christina,
for a long time worked next to the American Airline
Center when you worked at the Ticket, because that's right
(02:24):
there too. Okay, so you were the Ticket had already
moved there when you worked there.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
By the way, I turned the lights off at the
old place off at Maple What what year was that?
It had to be twenty twelve maybe.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Okay, Yeah, me and Ben we're at ESPN at that time.
We left the Ticket in two thousand and eight. But anyways,
who cares about all that? Uh So, you guys were
going to that building for both all the time and
still do now. Obviously. For me, I go to every
mav home game. I mean there's probably only two or
three a year that I miss if it's a national
(02:58):
broadcast and I just can't make it out. But even
if it's national broadcast, I still try to go. So
I'm at that building for that all the time. I
do go to Stars games occasionally, but because there concurrent
with basketball season, I can't be there every damn night,
so it probably affects me a lot less than it
would affect other people that they're not going to be
in the same building together anymore. Do you guys have
(03:19):
any sentimental attachment to the idea that they're in the
same building. Do you guys care at all?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I mean, I mentioned this last time we brought it up.
I just like the fact that it is kind of
like a coming together of both fan bases, you know,
and them both being in the same spot, to me
is really cool. And we have two statues outside of
both Madonno and n Novitzky No. I don't really know how
they're gonna handle that, right, And the street is called
(03:44):
Navitsky Way, right. I love the idea of the teams
being together the occasional. I know it's tough on the
people that work at the arena, but the occasional four
or five times a year where the Stars to play
a day game and the MAVs to play that night
a double dip, and it's just a buzzing thing, right,
and the co mingling of our sports teams.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
But this is not happening that often. Anymore. There's five
or six now that still do the basketball and Honky,
So how it makes sense that the MAVs would separate.
I've lost sentimental value to the American Airline Center because
I remember as a kid being there and seeing it
from the highway. But with all the high rises and
what's happening over there with luxury apartments, I really have
(04:21):
lost my attachment to it.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
The other thing too, And this is some real and
I get what you're saying, and this is some real,
like insider high falutin bougie crap. But I don't have
to deal with the parking issue that other people have
to sure with. And if I were to go to
a Stars game, I can reach out to somebody and
get parking. And I really do genuinely feel for the
(04:44):
average person sports fan that just parking down there absolutely sucks.
So I wonder about that now. It seems like the
Stars have it said this publicly in you know, an
affirmative way. I predict that they stay in that building, yeah,
(05:05):
and you know, and own that building like they already
co own it, you know what I'm saying, But like
that becomes the House of the Stars, and you know,
there's probably gonna be even more concerts there if the
Mavericks aren't there. We're still six or seven years away
from that house.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Well, and that was my next thought is there's a
lot of businesses down there that kind of rely on
these sports crowds coming in almost every single night.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So what are they gonna do if there's no more
MAVs games.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
They need way more concerts. Okay, they need way more concerts.
But no, you bring up a good point, and that's
the whole thing about real estate. What part of town
quote unquote stays hot and all that stuff. I mean,
I'm really interested in what's happening down in the Design
District because I think it's always been a cool, interesting
kind of area. Man, people are getting priced out of
(05:53):
that thing because all these outside developers bought it up
and they want super high end clients because super high
in Flans will pay super high end rent, and so
it starts changing the complexion of a neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
For a concert, we're talking about fifteen thousand or so
at the American AirLand Center. I know twenty thousand capacity,
but fifteen thousand for a concert. But that's where Dicky's
in Fort Worth has kind of taken that where you
would see a lot of shows at the American Aland Center.
Those mans just go to Dickies now, and they like
it because Dickies is nice. It sounds great, and I
think you see a lot of that, and you're tapping
into Fourth's. Fourth is almost just as big as Dallas,
(06:27):
Like it's an easy right off right there. But like
that size of a venue is needed in town because
outside of Dosequi's Pavilion, you don't have a venue that's
big enough to fit a ten to fifteen thousand, you know,
yeah for concerts, like they do need to utilize it
more for concerts, No, they absolutely do.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
And I also wonder too, like whatever the Mavericks build,
they're going to do concerts there too. It's not going
to be a basketball only They're saying, hey, it's a
basketball only arena, but there's still going to be concerts there. Yeah,
And let's face it, depending on where there it is.
I mean, we know who owns the Mavericks and what
their background is. The second that you know gaming is
(07:06):
legal here, they're going to be you know, every casino
has a concert venue because you want concerts there.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
You know how awesome it would be like during halftime
to just go play some slots or whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Oh would be's so good? Oh hold on, I know
we got a hustle bit. Yeah, the Dallas Wings could
hypothetically absolutely play where the Stars play, right.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I mean the Wings could go play where the Maps play.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Well they could, but they's there's still their seasons happen happening. Well, yeah,
the season.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
You see what I'm saying, Like we're years away. Why
wouldn't if it's a basketball, if it's built in basketball,
why wouldn't the Wings go there?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
And you know the w NBA plays way fewer games anyways,
I'm just I'm interested in all this from our perspective
as fans and what we are sentimentally attached to. All Right,
it's the Ben and Skin Show, ninety seven point one
The Eagle. It happened last night. John Laney fought three
fourteen year olds and we'll talk about it next right
here on the Eagle
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