Full Show: August 20, 2025

In this laugh-out-loud, emotionally raw, and wildly unpredictable episode of The Ben and Skin Show, the crew—Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray—dives headfirst into everything from sleep disorders and narcolepsy to rattlesnake fatalities and raccoon pool parties. 

• Ben’s battle with sleep apnea turns into a hilarious therapy session, complete with melatonin overdoses, coffee tanker interventions, and KT’s narcolepsy being declared “contagious.”
• The Netflix docuseries “The Gambler and His Cowboys” gets a deep dive, with the team breaking down Episode 2’s focus on Troy Aikman, Jimmy Johnson, and the infamous Herschel Walker trade. The drama, the dysfunction, and the aquarium bonding—it’s all here.
• Charles Haley’s legendary madness is revisited, including his infamous GM desk moment and his role in shaping the Cowboys’ dynasty.
• Wildlife News brings a Darwin Award-worthy tale of a man who picked up a rattlesnake… and paid the ultimate price.
• Hollywood Shuffle introduces a new prank you’ll want to steal—courtesy of Nathan Fielder and a dollop of mayonnaise.
• Sneaky Pete’s closure sparks nostalgia and pool-peeing confessions.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
But I will say, uh, everyone be careful when you're
starting your lawnmowers, because you know, if you I was
just a man on a mission, We're gonna go take
care of the lawn.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
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Speaker 3 (00:12):
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in except with similar for me pursuing it.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Hold out shaw, shame through the sewer. Kid, Now what
chill in that day?

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Eagle?

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yeah, we're doing it.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Three your clock on the dot.

Speaker 5 (00:33):
Got a habit for my house?

Speaker 3 (00:35):
A gop stat is how we're started getting rattic. Show
that enough both apply like a rabbit done in so out,
creak it up, eat the habit.

Speaker 6 (00:44):
I hang out with my friend blocking it on the radio.
My holy girl, boy's kin.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Talking on the radio.

Speaker 6 (00:57):
It's time to do this fas again.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
And all bababy by go kt Christina Ah. Yes, Hello
and welcome everybody. It's a hump day edition of the
world famous Ben and Skin Show. Thank you for tuning
in and making this a part of your daily routine.
So much to get into in today's show, and all

(01:21):
hands are on deck ready to hump this day. Ben Rogers,
Jeff skin Wad Kevin KT Turner, Christina k Ray, Little
Baby Cornbread ray Man, The America's Team, The Gambler and
his Cowboys Netflix docu series officially went live yesterday and
it is glorious. We reviewed episode one today in the

(01:42):
five o'clock hour. We'll review episode two. And I concluded
my evening last night making sure to get through those
first two episodes.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
And we'll save reviewing it.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
But this factors into the first thing I have to
talk about because I suffer from sleep batnya and I'd
like to get the table here as the number one
person on the show who deals with sleepy. Thank you
for your sacrifice, Ben, Thank you Kat, if you could
just stay at stand down.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
I uh no.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Kat obviously suffers from way more significant sleep issues that
I'm dealing with, but I have I have sleep apnea
pretty bad. But I can't sleep with the mask on.
I just can't do the Darth Vader mask, and so
I wake up a million times every day.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
I'm thinking about getting that surgery.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
I think it's called inspire, and I'm thinking about having
a surgery where I get I guess, let me perform
a surgery on you. I think it's just that I
think they just do something surgically and then you don't
have to wear the mask.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
I'm not sure. I need to look into that. I
stuff that they're working out. Really, they're claimbing will cure
everyone's sleep issues in the next few years.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
You can say that for anything. There's some stuff they're
working on that's going to cure and then fill in
the blank.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
You're right, But there's like it was actually a story
this morning. This guy's making their rounds hawking as product
fred Atnea. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
So I I struggle with sleep at me and what
I've noticed here this has really started since school started again.
I want to be up in the morning and see
my kids and interact with them before they leave, you know,
And so I wanted to get up early. So much
easier just to sleep through all that, but I want
to be up and be present for that, and so
I set my alarm to get up and be up

(03:26):
with the kids while they get ready to go to
school and then are out the door, because I know
I don't have many of those days left, you know,
one as a senior and one as a freshman.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
And so lately I've been beating my alarm.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
I wake up before my alarm goes off, and I've
realized that I have so much on my brain that
at the minute I am awake at all. If my
brain locks onto any thought, I'm wide awake.

Speaker 7 (03:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (03:49):
It's super fun, isn't it.

Speaker 7 (03:52):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (03:54):
Man?

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Okay, yeah, like the minute like I used to be
able to you just like have you know you wake
up and then you just go back to sleep. Yeah,
I can't now I'm wide awake if that happens. And
so I thought it was sleep apnea, and so man,
like the last few nights, I've maybe slept two hours

(04:17):
each night, three four hours maybe tops. And so last
night when I got home, I was like, man, I'm
going to pass the f out. This is gonna be great.
And my wife goes, do you want to watch America's Team?
I was like, hell, yes, all right, let's go. And
she looks over at me. She goes, You're gonna be
asleep in like five minutes, right, and I'm like yep.
But I made it through two full episodes, and at

(04:38):
the end of that I was like, all right, I
am out, and I couldn't go to sleep. It was
the opposite of sleep apnea. I didn't sleep last night.
I think I maybe slept for an hour thirty minutes
last Nay. Irony of this is that's a small plot
line in one of the first two episodes. I remember
which one, but when Jerry was losing thirty thousand dollars
a day.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah about today, Yeah, yeah, I had heart rhythm. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
I don't know what the real conditions are called because
he doesn't pronounce. He doesn't finish pronouncing any of it.
He said that he had to borrow money. Yeah, say that.
I'm good at bori money man. When he's younger and
talking and his face is making all those expressions, Look
at that first press confence.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
It's like, man, this is a caricature. This is crazy.

Speaker 8 (05:22):
It really is crazy. I feel bad that.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
I mean, I still want to talk about all this now,
we'll save it for later. But so yesterday KT played
audio of the first episode, and we hadn't seen it yet,
only Kat had seen it. So when I was watching
the first episode, I was thinking about all the audio we.

Speaker 8 (05:36):
Had heard earlier in the day.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
And the scene where there's the gal working the switchboard
and she had taken whatever twelve hundred calls before noon,
and they showed her on camera. I was like, there's
no way Jerry fired her.

Speaker 6 (05:50):
Yeah, she's very attractive.

Speaker 9 (05:52):
I thought the same thing, she's pretty Yeah, So what
do I do?

Speaker 1 (05:58):
What do you do? Yeah? What do I do?

Speaker 8 (06:00):
I stopped that tanker right there, A homie I took.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
I took two melatonins, two big giant melatonins, Like it
was like twenty grams of melatonins. Still could not go
to sleep. I did not go to sleep last night.
And I think that's your biggest issue. Right there, I'm
pointing to a tinker of coffee.

Speaker 6 (06:17):
That's an issue. I drink a bottle of wine. That
helps me.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah, I drink probably half as much coffee as I
used to. Good, but I don't drink that much coffee.
I'll probably have one of these today and that's it.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
So it's not that I don't I don't know what
it is, but I've got to figure it out because
you can't live like this, right, Kevin, You can live
like this.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
It's just your walking health issue. Yeah, and it leads
to a lot of nefarious deeds happening at about three
thirty am every night. Oh like what so much shameless activity?
I mean, no shameful activity. I don't know, Just like
I gotta go organize some stuff. I can't sleep, so
I might as well do something else. So I'm just
quietly tiptoeing around my house doing work. What are you
a librarian? Kind of am because I don't want to

(06:58):
look my wife up?

Speaker 2 (06:59):
But is is it possible that your narcolepsy is like
contagious ages?

Speaker 1 (07:04):
It is contagious. You guys are going to start having
jokestrokes soon. Oh, that would be great to turn that
on someone else. You're the only human I've ever seen
that has it. No, dude, I don't know if I
know anybody else that has narcolepsy. Man, I don't really
know in person. Yeah, I mean you probably do. They
just don't know they have it. And treat my guess

(07:26):
like me, Do I have it? Yes, it's a guess. No,
you don't have it? All right? Your wife might have it?

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Okay, weird? All right, get there. I don't know I'm
a zombie. But we're off and running. We got a
great show planned for you. We'll get into the custs
and the cowboys stuff, America's team, the Gambler and his
Cowboys in the five o'clock hour. We also have Troy
Aikman audio about the Micah Parsons situation that's coming up
at four fifteen. The Hollywood Shuffle, a new prank you
can steal from this celebrity coming up at three thirty.

(07:53):
But what's coming up next in things Skin is tracking.
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Speaker 4 (09:04):
Edition of.

Speaker 7 (09:07):
Man. You know what?

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Place is so badass and I'm so happy every time
I go there. I was there on Monday. Bucky is
Bucky Cheese. Bucky Cheese is a combination of a gas
station with a mascot in and now it's an adventure land.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
All right, Hello investors, Bucky Cheese. It's a gopher. It's
a gopher rat. This is there's something to tuck away,
so it's an armadillom.

Speaker 8 (09:35):
Okay, what code did she crack?

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Should we have kept this off air?

Speaker 6 (09:40):
Yes, I'm going to jump all of it.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
No, I'm maybe changing the direction of the segment. No, okay, uh?
And that is uh.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
It's over there near where Christina Ray spends a lot
of her time. It's the Texas Theater down there on
Jefferson and Oak Cliff, and it's a legendary theme, primarily
because that's where Lee Harvey Oswald hid after he shot
the president and then they went and drugged his ass
out of there. But anyways, I don't know how long ago,

(10:10):
but a guy that I went to college with that
was in my film classes, he bought into it. So
they run it and it's I'm sure it's considered a
historical building and all those kinds of things, but it
is a really badass place, and I don't know what
year it was built, but it's got all these weird, unique,
cool little cubby hole spaces everywhere around it.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
That's why he went to hide there.

Speaker 8 (10:33):
Yeah, No, I think he just went in the theater though,
right movie?

Speaker 6 (10:36):
Yeah, that seed is still marked, I believe.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Is that right?

Speaker 6 (10:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (10:40):
When I was there Monday, the JFK tour bus pulled
up outside, oh, and I was like, how often does
this thing drive by?

Speaker 6 (10:47):
Quite a bit?

Speaker 8 (10:47):
Sin does it really? So you see it all the time?

Speaker 6 (10:49):
Part it's by my house like all the time.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
But they do have some first run stuff, like some
bigger productions like what's the name of the movie that's
got Alison Brie and her husband one of the Francos together. Yeah,
that's screening. Yeah, Dave Franco, that's screening there tonight. And
I really want to see this. I just don't know
if I have time to go trooping down note Cliff.

(11:12):
But they have the Jeff Buckley documentary. Oh yeah, yeah,
and they've been. That's been and I think they're showing
it some next week too. But Ben, one of the
things that a place like this will do is they'll
do what they call repertory screening, so like classic films
like oh uh, last week or two weeks ago, they
had Francis Ford Coppola, the filmmaker there and he spoke.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
So they'll do special screenings.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
You know that movie The Room that they made the
James Franco made a movie about. Oh I love that
movie that they're doing a screening of that. And that
guy Greg's sister area where was going to be the
actual actor?

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah? The real one?

Speaker 10 (11:49):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (11:49):
I thought he like disappeared. Well, maybe it's the idea
I did not hit her.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
I did not.

Speaker 8 (11:56):
It may be the other guy that he took on
the wild Ride. Maybe that's the guy.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
That's gonna be od that's a good movie. But I
mean that's kind of something i'd like to go see
just a spinal tap there. Oh yeah, I think that
would be badass. But Ben, what is your old time
favorite movie? Probably Shawshank Redemption or Roadhouse Okay, there's another
one that you say quite often, or or it's get

(12:23):
Me to Utah, get me to point break point break.
Have you ever seen Jaws in a theater?

Speaker 7 (12:28):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Jaws is my favorite movie. I thought it was.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
I think it's the best film ever made. I've never
seen it in a theater. August twenty eighth and twenty ninth,
Jaws at the Texas Theater.

Speaker 8 (12:38):
Write that down? Do we twenty eighth and twenty ninth?

Speaker 5 (12:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Do we need to do? You're writing it on a
piece of paper you'll never see again. I'm gonna, I'm gonna.
I'm like, man, I really want my kids to enjoy
this movie because it's something I care about so much.
But I also don't want to ruin water for them. Yeah,
or would they not be scared of it? I don't
think they'd be scared of Jaws is so silly looking now,
you know, it's like the special effects.

Speaker 8 (13:02):
It's still an incredible movie, but in the theater right.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Right?

Speaker 11 (13:08):
Dun, dun, dun dun dun dundundt dot dot.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
I'm bleeding. I don't think that's a line. Wait, what
line was that? Which character said that? Thank you?

Speaker 2 (13:20):
It was like Samantha, okay, one of the ladies. All right,
what if we did this that attracted the shark?

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (13:26):
What if we sponsored this showing at the Texas Theater,
got our listeners out there and had an appearance from
a gopher rat? We had to go for a life
size go for like a human sized gopher rack. Gees,
Bucky cheese man, I would love it. We let's buy
the whole house, Let's take every ticket and fill it
up with our people.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
I can't what is that? What days are those? Twentieth
and twenty Christina? Oh, okay, Kat's on it.

Speaker 6 (13:51):
Let's go Thursday, Friday.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Friday and Saturday.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Okay, let's go or Tuesday and Wednesday night, twenty ninth, Thursday,
Thursday coming up next. KT's going to look at a calendar.
We'll give you an update on when the twenty eighth
and twenty ninth are. Also, we're going to have the
Hollywood Shuffle because there is a new prank that a
celebrity is doing that you might.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Want to steal. We'll give you details next Juesday News. God,
every come stay on the top in the woods. Shovel
shut before I tell you about a prank that you
can insert into your arsenal. Something that really made me laugh.

(14:35):
I do want to talk about this for a second.
There's a lot of things going on in the media
world in general with TV deals that's kind of crazy.
But I saw that the NBA is doing something and
this is not official yet, but it's almost there where
they're going to have on Tuesday nights something called on
NBC NBA Coast to Coast, so early game and then

(14:56):
a late game, but they moved back to the start
time of the late game even further than the late
games normally start. Are you serious? So normally when the
MAVs would play let's say the Lakers, let's just have
a little fun. The MAVs are playing the Lakers in LA.
That game is probably gonna happen about nine thirty with
commercials with the pregame lead up. Well. The other day,

(15:18):
Silver announced the Commissioner Adamsilver announced that on NBA Coast
to Coast on Tuesdays in the regular season, the second
leg of the NBA doubleheader will beget at ten pm
Central instead of nine to thirty pm Central, So I
started to think about that from a basketball standpoint. Great,
but also think about this, there's one night that Jimmy

(15:41):
Fallon and Seth Myers wouldn't be doing their show on
Tuesday and the local news would get kicked out? Was
NBC five, I would imagine can't be happy about this
right now?

Speaker 2 (15:53):
There's no way that NBC five is happy that they're
being preempted by an NBA game that's not their local team.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Blazers and Kings are gonna play. It goes because instead
of the local news, Yeah, and that news wild to me,
that's where they crank man.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
I mean, obviously they sell the prime shows for more,
but they own all the inventory in that in that news.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
I mean, it doudn't matter if the game start at
nine thirty, if it started at ten Central time. Again,
starting a game at eleven o'clock Eastern time sounds crazy?
Is this sweight?

Speaker 2 (16:24):
I want to make sure I understand this, because you know,
it sounds like you've done more reading up on this
than I have, because I hadn't considered it. So this
would be a replacement for TNT.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
This is the Tuesday Night because I mean it's all
scattered right now because the ESPN still has Wednesdays in
Amazon and Thursdays, I think Thursday, Friday.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
I saw a big list the other day that had
them all like, here's where you could see every game
because Sunday's NBC. But Tuesday Night, NBC's breaking out coast
to coast. Tuesday Night, I could see.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Them putting it on Peacock, and I know a bunch
of games are on Peacock, but I'm very surprised they're
putting this on their on their network on it Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
And that's the thing that's confusing moment because every bit
of reporting I've tried to find on this, they just
keep saying NBC and not saying Peacock. And I'm in
my head going, it has to be Peacock.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
There's no way they're going to Well maybe there is
a way, but it will preempting Jimmy Fallon in the
local news to show a West Coast basket on during clippers.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
It sounds nuts, but it's happening. But I was thinking
about the money to save late nights being to save money.
Although a lot of those like that host their budgets.
All of those late night shows now don't do five
shows a week. They don't do a Friday show. Wow,
is that right? Yeah, some some weeks they will, but
they just recorded on Monday either way, and they have
it set aside.

Speaker 8 (17:38):
Kimball does eight shows a year. He has eight a year.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
It has made a lot of money doing it, Okay,
So that was just that I'm interested in that. I'll
follow up because I want to know what they helps. Man.
You guys know, I am pretty obsessed with Nathan Fielder
from the old show Nathan for You. He's a comedian.
He was on the show of the rehearsals that I've
talked about a lot, but I understand a lot people
don't know. His bit is dry humor. This is very strange.

(18:03):
So Joe Jonas, one of the Jonas brothers doing podcasts.
He's on with Amy Poehler. He's talking about how he
freaked out when he saw Nathan Fielder at a restaurant
he was at and how Nathan Fielder played. This is
now something I want to hold to take with us
into the future because this is great, Okay, And I
will play it for you now on the Eagle.

Speaker 11 (18:24):
I restarted watching all of Nathan for You because I
watched the rehearsals. I think is just so brilliant and
messed up and insane. I was at a restaurant recently.
When I see somebody that I really like, I think
I love their work. I don't want to say him,
I'll like, may can I send their drink? Or maybe
just whatever they're eating and whatever? Can I send something?

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Stop that? Good play? Right there? You see someone, let's
send him. We'll send him a drink. That time we
saw Joe Montage, the actor, at that bar in California,
we should have sent him a drink or send him
send him an advertiser.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Isn't it, Christina? Would you trust a drink that just
arrived the waiter's hand?

Speaker 12 (19:01):
Again?

Speaker 2 (19:01):
But that Joe Montana thing was amazing, just because he
wanted to be recognized, but just enough to say I
see you, you know who I am, and thank you,
but now please go away. But also he is with
four old ladies. Everyone played their role perfectly. Yeah, but
that's a good move. You see someone, send him an
appetize or send him a drink. Okay, good okay, So
let's see how Nathan responds.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
And I saw him was like, oh my God, like
I love him. I send him.

Speaker 11 (19:26):
I sent him a drink, him and his friend. And
about thirty minutes later, the waiter brought over a dullop
of Mani's and handed it to me.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
I'm like, this is from Nathan.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
And he goes. He looks over at him, and Nathan
Nathan's look at him, and Nathan goes, I guess the
motion of enjoy and he goes just and my friends
are laughing so hard.

Speaker 11 (19:48):
I'm like, guys, he wants don't laugh. He wants it
so bad, and he was really kind of up and
he walks over and he's like, did you get my gift?

Speaker 1 (19:57):
So if you see someone you know, an old friend
or maybe someone famous, send them a doll up of
mayonnaise is not used enough. I don't even know what
it means.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
And the doll up of mayonnaise all right, coming up
in just over three minutes. A list is on your
lips that segment the most powerful male names in the
United States, and a rattlesnake killed a guy.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
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All right, we have wildlife news at the top of
the hour. Man, do not pick up a rattlesnake. But
right now it's time for this.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
I saw this cop ten most powerful male names based
on a little bit of research. The fortune five hundred CEOs.
So if you have this name, you're likely to be
a CEO. I'm gonna say Dick. Dick not on the list,
but would have been in the sixties. Right yeah, Gaylord,
big name, that's good. Not a lot of gay lord CEOs.
What about Dick Gaylord? Although my landlord was named gay

(21:27):
Lord once Orville not Orville. That's thirties. Thirties maybe, Okay,
that's coming back.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Okay, long Ben's line. Mortimer, No, not more. This is
most powerful? Yea, most powerful? Oh, Chad, Chad not there?

Speaker 6 (21:50):
Definitely Ronnie Bend.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Ronnie, Well, that'd be rot Ronald be the guy that
would be the CEO's in the Power Player. Here is
that on the business Man? No?

Speaker 6 (22:02):
Okay, okay, George is on there?

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah, no really, Robert number one, Robert, let's go shout
out to Bob Pittman, our fearless leader.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah, Roberts can go by Bob and get away with it,
just like that. Twenty one Fortune, five hundred CEOs named Robert. Oh,
I got one.

Speaker 6 (22:21):
I have one too.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Michael number two Michael.

Speaker 10 (22:25):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (22:26):
A lot of powerful Mike's in my life.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
And they go by Mike. Yeah, some go by Miguel.
Those are the CEOs. What about Jack? Not Jack, but
John number four Mortimer Mortimer again not on the still
hasn't made it on there yet.

Speaker 8 (22:43):
Maybe by the end of the segment. Mortimer sneak, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
You know what, with Robert, Michael and John on there,
it makes me think we're just doing numbers, and it's
just the most common names. No, I don't know, man,
Mordy al Xander.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Well, even if it was that, the context of your
guess is changes a little bit. I guess, but you
just guess the top ten most common name common name, right,
And they're not more Villain Mortimer. You can hang out
with Robert, Michael and John though y all right? What
about Ken Ken? Ken went away in the eighties, Oh, Carl,

(23:22):
Carl is Marvi's seventies. These are masculine names, though they are?
They are? They really are? So Jerry no Jerry on here.
I was surprised that there wasn't Jerry. I thought Jerry
would have been a name. Dude, it is, but you know,
so is John, James, James, remember three James. You'll have
the top four already.

Speaker 8 (23:41):
Now, man, have you guys met my new CEO?

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Jim? Uh? Okay, you got me?

Speaker 5 (23:47):
Robert?

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Do you have William William number six? Right there?

Speaker 8 (23:51):
That's good Willie. You always at Willie at CEO.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
I mean, these might be the sixth most common names
in America?

Speaker 8 (23:58):
Then, uh Fred no, Frank.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Okay, here are the most common most common male names
of the United States right now? Liam, Noah, Oliver, James, Elijah, William, Henry, Lucas, Benjamin,
and Theodore. These are and those are more newish, right
theam Yeah? No, uh well, no, it's biblical. It was big,
you know, two thousand years ago and then made a comeback.

(24:23):
The all time most common traditional names for males in
the United States from decades of Social Security records James, John, Robert, Michael, William, David, Joseph, Thomas, Charles,
and Daniels.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Those are the top ten. No, that's the CEO top ten. Well,
number seven is David. Okay, but you still have not
got five, eight, nine to ten. No Charles on there,
No Charles. Interesting, You are missing a very obvious Mortimer.
Not Mortimer, very obvious. Uh. Richard No said one might

(24:57):
hang out with a with a with a a bear
and a rabbit and a tiger smoke and oh whinny
when he is the bear. He's hanging out with the bear.
Oh oh oh oh.

Speaker 6 (25:13):
What's his name?

Speaker 1 (25:13):
What's that little kid?

Speaker 8 (25:15):
Yep, I'm gonna cry thinking about him right here.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Not Jebediah geppetto Christopher, Christopher, but I got caught with
my hand in the honey come Christopher pull it off
for me. What are the final ones? David seven, We
said that, Dave eight, Mark, Mark, Yeah, I Mark, Timothy,

(25:43):
tim Tim Tim's no Timmy. You don't see Timmy a lot.
And then number ten b Beyonce, Brent, Brent Oh Barbados
Brofis Oh Bryce, Bryce, Brandon Bran.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Like our old coworker Brandon. All right, thank you, Kevin.
Fantastic list.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Well the wild life, due the wild life for a
snake story, you guys want to hear that. What happens
when some raccoons broke into a Florida man's house and
had a party.

Speaker 6 (26:32):
Yes, I think the raccoon did that two or three
days ago.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
And then they came back with all their buddies.

Speaker 12 (26:38):
They were having a party. There was several of them
on the step right there. There were several of them
in the jacuzzie just splashing around. The three of them
in the jacuzzie splashing around, and then looking at the
other videos from the other camera on the side covered porch,
we saw them all coming in and out of the house.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Man the raccoon UNEs alerting each other that they found
a jacuzzie. What a movie. Tinkering with the jets. Enough
fun in games. We had a raccoon infestation in my
house that I.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Lived in in like my junior and senior year of
high school, and it drove my mom crazy because they
are the smartest animals, Like, they are so smart, and
like the city would came and set up these traps
and stuff, they would figure out how to reach in
and just grab the food off the trap without getting
caught in the trap.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
They're smart.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
They're crazy smart. And yeah, they were having a party
in our attic. The worst is when you're out there
and you're baiting the trap, you know, and you're putting
the food in the trap, and then you look and
they slowly drive by you and they're watching you and
they're just kind of looking with their masks on how
many raccoons were hanging out at this.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Kind of the house, Well, it starts three or four,
and then they were alerting more apparently, so it could
be like eight to twelve.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
That's the plot of a movie, all the raccoons letting
every other raccoon know there's a party.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Can I ask you dog owners and y'all, well, I
guess y' all kind of big dogs too and little
ones y'all have doggy door, No, because that's how this happened.
They got into the doggy door. I don't know. I'm
remember Kavanaugh, our buddy, Jeff Kavanaugh, who he had an
animal get into his house through the doggy door. But
you have there's gotta be a better way to secure that.

(28:23):
The doggy door was so that feels like the waterbed
sort of. Yes, great comparison. It was very prevalent in
the eighties. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (28:31):
I used to have one at my condo. But you
can slide a thing, so at night I would slide
a thing over it.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Okay, there's a cover, yeah, yeah, but it just doesn't
make sense to me. It doesn't check out from the
safety you know, doesn't pass the safety test. If somebody
can crawl into that at any point, why have it.

Speaker 9 (28:49):
Oh that's when the dog greets them. Yeah, So if
you're gonna you're gonna crawl through that dog door.

Speaker 6 (28:54):
Welcome, you'll see my dog.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
All genitals ripped off. All little person criminals will look
for doggie doors, absolutely as they should. That's just being
a savvy little person criminal. Hiker in Tennessee just walking
the state park, getting his steps in See's rattlesnakes that
kind of I'll pick that up.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
What picks it up? And the rattlesnakes like, hey, man,
I did not consent to this and bit him. The
man died a rare fatality on a snake bike right
there from the rattlesnake. I didn't know that was rare.
It was a timber rattlesnake. He was bitting on the hand.

(29:37):
Witness said the hiker was just walking about twelve thirty
middle of the day, saw the snake, picked it up,
snake bit it. Unbelievable. I had my timber rattlesnake over
at Snake's Plus. But say sold it?

Speaker 10 (29:51):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Really? Is it part of the liquidation?

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah? They sold it there clearing out for the Halloween
stores in the Yeah, spirit and spirits to take over
their spaces for them. They get a little money for that. Yeah,
But I was it was a good looking snake, man,
I see why you want to pick it up.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Sounds like a handsome rattler. It was. Thousands of people
in the United States are bitten by venomous steaks each year,
but only about how many proved to be fatal. Did
you say venomous steak thousands of people in the United
States are bitten by venomous snakes. Thousands, thousands, okay, how
many are fatal okay too. How many fatalities per year?

(30:29):
Two per thousand, so really this is just per year.
How many fatalities are there?

Speaker 8 (30:35):
Okay, fatalities fatalities fifteen?

Speaker 1 (30:40):
One, ooh, I'm going to go sixteen. Now I'm going
to go two because with that, going over would be
skinned to the interest.

Speaker 8 (30:46):
Five yep, okay, five.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
And it's also believed scientists are saying it's smart to,
you know, not pick up the snake if you're hiking.
It takes a scientist to say that. But they do
believe that his death was caused by an allergic reaction
to venom. Not so maybe to the venom. Right, that's
where it's the reporting is a little questionable.

Speaker 8 (31:06):
I would say, you're saying maybe to the venom.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Well, he was also on a trail, so it's harder
for them to get to him, so they lost a
valuable time. Whereas if he's on the access road, just
you know, ambulance swoops in and he's on his way.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
There's a chance that the snake had been eating peanuts
and he was allergic to peanuts nuts. Don't you think that?
I don't know, And that like what Darwinism is all about.
In some ways, you're going to pick up a rattlesnake.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
It's on you.

Speaker 8 (31:33):
The idiots eliminate themselves, is okay.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
It's like it's like covering yourself in chum and holding
two honey baked hams and like jumping in the water
with a bunch of sharks.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Yeah, Survival of the Fartest yep. All right, there you
have it, the wildlife News. The wild life News coming
up in just over three minutes. What did Troy Aikman
have to say about the Micah Parsons situation. It might
surprise you. It's coming up in just over three minutes. Now.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
It's cool around the sports kt quins as.

Speaker 6 (32:06):
All the sports.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yes, cowboys back at the Stars. Training camp's kind of over,
but it's still training camp. But it's at the Star
and uh, very wild to see people, you know, tweeting
out beat reporters tweeting out pictures of Micah sitting on
a chair Trayvon Diggs is kind of their mine and
about ten to fifteen feet away as Steven Jones taking

(32:30):
pictures with sponsors or friends or fans or whatever. It's like, man,
they are within the same vicinity of each other, but
they just aren't talking. And Micah does and all the
I mean, who knows, like two hours of walking around practice.
I'm sure he smiled a couple of times. Boy, And
the pictures that are framed on social media from the
Beat reporters, it's like he looks dejected.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Dude. It's got to be there. It's got to be
putting so much pressure on that agent too. Because Jerry
and Micah agree to a deal, shake on it and like, you,
we feel good about this, all right, let's go, and
then Micah takes it to his agent. His agent it
was like, no, hell no, why do you even pay me? No,
let me you need deserve more than that comes back
to Jerry and Jerry's piss like, oh my god, you

(33:13):
violated our handshake agreement.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
All right, no deal?

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah, And so it's just stagnant with no communication happening,
Like what terrible.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
I wonder how much Mike actually listens to his good
friend Trayvon Diggs Strayland Diggs is not like happy at all.
It seems like, uh, And they find him and he
didn't like that, and he was offended by that. But
they also went out of their way to run him
over in the opening press conference. I don't know that
I've seen them do anything like that. Inherent Steelers steal

(33:45):
out of nowhere, just getting ran over.

Speaker 8 (33:47):
Dak got it, you know, like everyone.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Got it a little bit, but I just thought it
was like a little bit. So I where it's easy
if you're in that bad mood, things aren't going well,
and then your buddy's also with you there, he's not
feeding you good information. I mean, they may be like,
once we can get out of here, let's go get
out of here and go somewhere else. If we can't,
probably don't work that way. Michael probably gets signed. So
we know. Here's what Troy Aigman thinks. Though Troy and

(34:10):
Joe had to do a preseason game the other night. No, man, man,
you hate to see that. Somehow Tom Brady would his
way out of having to do some preseason games. Troil
and Joy had to do. Troy and Joe had to
do one, not Troe and Joy. That's different couple. And
here's your take from Troy Aikins.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
We try to win or be great without Michael Parsons, well,
you can't be. That's his leverage, his leverages. I can't
win without him. So I do think the Cowboys are
going to be better than what a lot of people project.
I saw something where the over under seven and a
half wins on the Cowboys. I think they're going to
be much better than that. I think they got a
chance without Michael Parsons. I just don't think they're gonna
be able to slow anybody down. I mean, he's a

(34:48):
total game wrecord and he's proven that, and he's certainly
worth every penny that he's ultimately going to get paid.
The longer it goes, the more money he's gonna make.
So I wouldn't stress too much if I was him,
but that that essentially is the only leverage. Now, what
are the Cowboys gonna do?

Speaker 1 (35:03):
You think? I know the answer to that.

Speaker 5 (35:05):
I don't think anybody knows what Jerry's ever gonna do.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
What a way to end it spectacular?

Speaker 2 (35:12):
I would I would be very, very very surprised if
they don't have a deal done by week one. I
really think it's going to be like every one of
these who is the last guy that they didn't get
a deal done with I can't even I can't even
remember it.

Speaker 8 (35:26):
That was a star? Yeah, No, I can't. Yeah, I
can't even who was it?

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Get there? I can't even get there. They've paid literally everyone. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
But the biggest wild card is that Jerry is older yes,
and more stubborn yes. And he's ever been at any
point in his career as a businessman. So does he
draw a line in the sand that they can't even
pull him back from? Even if Steven's like, Dude, we
need to go ahead and do this deal, Jerry's like, no,
the principle of the handshake, you can't do it. We
can't do it until all eight episodes have been seen

(35:56):
of the Netflip series. So I was wondering, you know
what you're talking about with him being more defiant, Ben,
I kind of got this since you know, in the
five o'clock hour and cussing the cowboys, we're gonna talk
about this Netflix series and I've only seen have they
released all the episodes?

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Like you can play to them?

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Okay, so we've all only seen the first two, but
I definitely think you know it's a Jerry.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Hey, let's celebrate Jerry.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
And they've totally got him presented as a spaghetti western cowboy.
They're even playing the music at the beginning from the
spaghetti Westerns. But I definitely think that he is doing
the They called me a bumpkin.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
They don't know f oh yeah, hell, you know.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
He's being defiant, and it to me, it's like he's
been at at times, but never to the degree that
we're seeing in the last couple of years.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
It is definitely intensified. The chimp's on the shoulder, and
it's that whole thing of I gave up everything you
ever where is everyone talks about me being rich. I
literally was in debt when I bought the team. I
gambled everything I had, and y'all forget that. I think
that's like really sticks with him. Y'all forget that I
was broke. I made my family. And it's also like, dude,

(37:05):
you're the one who made those irresponsible decisions, right, and
it's worked out great for you. Yeah, And if you're
listening with us, sir, you follow the podcast or whatever. Tomorrow,
which will be Thursday show, we will do episode three
and Friday we'll do episode four, and we'll just kind
of do it that way, so we can all watch
it together. How about that? Yeah? Love it. Let's keep
it going.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
All right, There you have it. There's around the Sports
coming up in just a few minutes. It's the weekly
weekday update. A local musician kills a guy. We got
the Today game, and then we will get into America's team,
The Gambler and his Cowboys, the Netflix docu series in
the five o'clock hour. That's all coming your way on
the Beninskin Show.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Next. Are you excited?

Speaker 12 (37:44):
He gets, featuring veteran news anchor Katie fun tweets.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
You're about a fort Worth to this story.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
A fort Worth country singer is accused of fatally shooting
a man while driving over on east Bury there in
fort Worth. He told police he thought the man was
following him. Oh oh, twenty nine year old Christopher Jerome Blanton,
who goes by the stage name Seeing Jerome like cea apostrophe,

(38:20):
I n G Jerome. That's a terrible name. I'll get it. Yeah,
he was also He describes his music as an innovative
blend of country, R and B and hip hop out.
He calls it hood country.

Speaker 6 (38:34):
Okay back, that's cool.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yeah? Oh wait a minute, hold on Texas. Yeah, yeah,
I know, wearing one or being in one. I think
being in the hood would be just diving in a
little further. Yeah, I mean still being in the hood.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
That's very popular right now, especially on social media.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
It's yeah either way, big ex.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
The plug just did the whole country album bro Yeah, true, weird.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
How was it. I haven't listened to it. Very double songs. Yeah, Hey,
we're generalists. It's fine, it's fine, It's all good.

Speaker 8 (39:10):
So he uh, says the guy.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
He thought the guy was following him, But you don't
have to shoot him. He's not gonna face a murder charge.
The man, a thirty two year old by the name
of Cody Scott, has died. I wonder. I'm just as
a detective, you have to ask these questions. These are
not allegations. Could you have been inebriated to at a

(39:36):
point where you were paranoid that someone was following yeah,
when really it was no one was following you. My
first thought was drugs.

Speaker 9 (39:42):
I I, oh, yeah, he's being paranoid because of.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
He was on dummies. He was on dummies.

Speaker 6 (39:49):
I'm not saying that.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
By the way.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
I saw Pete Davidson talking about how strong weed is
now we guys seen this he was taught talking about
how like back.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
In the day, I don't.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Remember what quantification he had, but it was like whatever
amount of THHC was in the weed was like a
five on a scale of zero to thirty or something,
and now it's like eighteen.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
It's way more powerful. And I was like, that's why
he's not doing it.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
I could see now that you know, it's legalizing a
lot of places, you know, lab experimentation. I mean it's
the same thing theoretically as like hey, here's fourteen percent
barley wine compared to a four percent logger right Like,
now that it's you know, there's so many companies that
are making it, making it legally, I could see them

(40:41):
engineer like a better high or I don't know if
the world would be better a strong or high.

Speaker 8 (40:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
When you buy you know, gummies or weed or whatever
at a legal place, does it give percentage of potency
of THC on there?

Speaker 1 (40:59):
I think they legally have to, okay, because and there
a certain amount. I don't know. We need to get
a drug expert on to talk about this.

Speaker 8 (41:06):
It's not legal in Texas I know nothing about it.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
This is what I was talking about. THHC potency over time.
In the seventies, cannabis generally had a low THHC levels,
often less than two percent. In the nineties, the average
THHD levels rose to around four percent, and twenty fourteen
confiscated samples average twelve percent THC. Twenty twenty two data
says over sixteen percent. Today, many sources estimate THHC levels

(41:32):
reaching between fifteen and thirty percent cannabis flowers, with some
strange reported as high as thirty seven percent.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Wow, damn.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Yeah, that's so it's made. I guess it's got to
be engineered that way. Yeah, like that's not just evolution.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
A quickly final story here, sneaky peets on Lake Lewisville
will be closing.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
I saw this December twenty eight. That was uncool of
the City of Lewisville. They're not going to really the least. Yeah,
they just said, no, we're gonna build resort here. Sorry,
you've been in business for four decades or whatever. By
what the hell, man, I don't know, if you own
that land, you'd probably rather do resort on it, you know,
And like, hey, you guys can find another spot on
the lake. I think, let's do a giant gazillion dollar

(42:15):
project here.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Yeah, but is that resort gonna have the catfish, the
sneaky pizza? Right, fair question. I don't think so. Why
couldn't they have just built a resort around Sneaky Peace
part of a resort. It's like, here's the trashy point
a nice resort. If I owned that, I would I
would say, man, thank you for your service. I've been
a great twenty years. We're going to actually go get
rich now now that the ticket has changed so much.

(42:37):
I mean, I get it. I had a friend who
wants Pete in the pool at the Sneaky Pete's that's great.
Cat it led to the downfall.

Speaker 6 (42:44):
A lot of people have a friend who's peeding the
pool there.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yeah, I guess I said something.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
What was it summer bash of peafest into the pool
at Sneaky Peace.

Speaker 9 (42:52):
Well, last time I was there, it was summer Bash
of like twenty fourteen.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Yeah, me too, Yeah, it was. There was very strange.
All right, There you have it.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
There's a weekly week day update coming up to the
today game, and then we do a deep dive into
America's team, The Gambler and His Cowboys, the Netflix docu
series episode two will break it on down coming up
at five o'clock, but the Today games just three minutes
away to come on.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
Surprise.

Speaker 7 (43:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Netflix dropped the eight piece documentary series called The Gambler
and His Cowboys about the Cowboys and stuff. We talked
about episode one yesterday, which was great. Episode two is
called ake Mania about Troy Aikman, and they had a
big teaser leading up episode two. But they started a
little bit of this episode off talking about herschel Walker,

(43:51):
who was the running back for the Cowboys at the time.

Speaker 7 (43:54):
It was a very good player, even though we had
just drafted Troy Aikman.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
We knew heading into the nineteen eighty and says that.

Speaker 7 (44:00):
Herschel Walker was the marquis player of the Dallas Cowboys
and the Dallas Market.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Wow, it's herschel Walker Walker. I would say that people
would rather watch that game than any NFL game that
you can think of.

Speaker 5 (44:15):
I started writing poetry as a matter of fact, in
high school because I read a Sports Illustrated article on
herschel and he wrote poetry. Remember any of the posts,
they weren't They weren't great. I'll tell you that.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Was one of them called Oklahoma Knights. Oh goh, her
is man, I was.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
I was.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
I went and looked at this after watching that and
the numbers he put up in nineteen eighty eight, fifteen
hundred yards for the Cowboys, rushing one and fourteen yards
on a terrible team, rushing.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
No offensive line.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Dude, yeah, I got their offensive line was done nothing.

Speaker 12 (44:55):
Well.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
They talked about how that season though, because they got Troy.
This is eighty nine, I guess, and I had a
tough start.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
Are opening game.

Speaker 7 (45:04):
I'm thinking, we just got the number one pick in
the draft in Foy Aikman, and we have the best
running back in the league. We may have this NFL
figured out right as we come.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
Through the door. Boy, this is going to be fun.
I'm gonna have the greatest time in my life. That
was our time.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
Wow, that's a big welcome to the NFL for Trey.

Speaker 7 (45:25):
The first game, I looked for the players and I said,
you know, I didn't come here to lose.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
I said, you know this stops right here.

Speaker 5 (45:29):
He said, We're done losing around here, And of course
we weren't. We lost the next seven in a.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Row that was so funny. They oh cocky they were,
they were so excited. They didn't get into it.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
And you know, my memory may be fuzzy now, but
if I remember correctly, they won their very first preseason
game their first year, and Jimmy ran out onto the
field and was like, you know, bringing that college energy,
and everyone's looking around going what yeah, man, definitely go
down like this. It's crazy, That's what it's funny. Like,

(46:03):
I'm sure we'll get into it later.

Speaker 9 (46:04):
A certain other player comes back and he's all hype
like him, like Jimmy because he's used to that, and
everyone else is like, dude, chill man, play cool.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
They totally zip past the Steve Walsh thing. Yes, they
didn't even cover it. No, I mean they like to me.
I think Troy is a super sympathetic character in all
of this because you're, like, man, he seemed he had
a tough childhood. His dad sounded really tough on him.
He was basically an adult at six years old and
all that, and it was never really that fair for him,

(46:33):
Like they were never really that fair, and the fact
that he had to fight for his job because it
was the nineteen eighty nine the little draft, they drafted
Steve Walsh and had a quarterback controversy when they already
had the number one big quarterback. Did you know about this?

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Kt? I knew about it, like in just like over
the years, but nothing specific.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
So Walsh was Jimmy's quarterback at Miami Miami, so Jimmy
was partial to Walsh, and so they didn't I mean
they I know that it's a documentary, you have to
edit certain things out, but the way that they presented
the Steve Burlin we'll get to it, the Steve Burline
controversy was this was the quarterback controversy. Man, The quarterback
controversy had kind of been settled with Ben's talking about

(47:13):
in the early days, because it's different when you're one
in fifteen, you know, there's a lot more chatter and
people are not rational about how good the team is.
But Jimmy made you know, that tension they allude to
between Jimmy and Troy that was set up with the
with the wall stuff.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
It's interesting they left that out because that, to me
was the key takeaway of episode two, is Jimmy and
Troy's relationship. Yeah, we'll get to all that, you know later,
in this hour. But when we come back, I think
we need to talk about what happened with the trade
and then Jerry's health issues that were happening at the
time as well.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Hell yeah, all right, awesome, we keep this party going,
and we'll do that. In just over three minutes. We're
talking about the new Netflix docu series, The Gambler and
His Cowboys. It's an eight party. Yeah, yesterday we hit
up part one. Today we're on episode two and Katie
has more audio, and so we talked about how they're
not very good and they're losing games. I believe they
started to eight in nineteen eighty nine. And here's the

(48:12):
story of the trade of Herschelwalker.

Speaker 7 (48:14):
This is why you don't buyre todd Lander. We're dealing
with a couple old country bumpkins.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
So devastating walk for the Californys staved gone from.

Speaker 12 (48:22):
America's team to the worst team that season was just terrible.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
A radio friend of mine says, the Dallas Cowboys have
just traded the Rolls Royce for five toyotas.

Speaker 5 (48:32):
Hersel Walker to Minnesota for five players.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
The great Herschelwalker.

Speaker 5 (48:36):
For these guys, no one had ever even heard of
these guys.

Speaker 6 (48:41):
Dallas Cowboys may have been had, and.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
To sweeten the deal, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones painted additional
two million dollars for Walker to waive his no trade class.

Speaker 7 (48:51):
We're the worst team of the league and we just
traded our best player for five nobody.

Speaker 5 (48:56):
I don't think the.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Cap whatever be the same till the JJ's go back
to arc and thank Tim Arris does Cowboy isn't that good?

Speaker 2 (49:04):
It's gonna come back to haunts the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
My favorite part of this whole thing so far is
just fans dogging them.

Speaker 9 (49:10):
Yeah, because it sounds like the Luca trade we just
went through.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Does it really does? Let me just say, by the way,
I Colt was good, dude. I Colt was the one
guy those five that could play. He actually had I
believe he had two blocked punts, and they cut him
to they cut him all to get those pigs. So
so they do you are you gonna play the other audio?

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Yeah? Okay, keep going. Yeah. So well this is where
Jerry's like talking about the fallout from that trade, wherever
he's getting killed because they traded the best player in
the market.

Speaker 7 (49:39):
I wasn't getting my ass kicked every day, everyone saying,
should take your ass back to Arkansas.

Speaker 6 (49:45):
Who in the hell does he think he is? The
devil has plum to Dallas in the form of Jerry Chell.

Speaker 7 (49:51):
Well, if I'm being honest, having only one win and
my first year in the NFL wasn't even my biggest problem.
We were losing a million dollars a month cash flow,
couldn't pay the bills, and there was a great risk
that I would lose the team. Do I drink a
little bit to get to go to sleep? Then all

(50:12):
of a sudden, two or three o'clock in the morning,
earned that first cricket, My eyes would be open. I'd
be up for the day. I lived at our Valley
Ranch headquarters twenty four hours a day. During that I
developed heart arrhythmia. It's when you never sleep and your
hard starts beating faster. But thank god I had Jimmy Johnson.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Oh my god, thank god? Did he talk more? Did
you get into the trade anymore? Yeah, that's say said
the next one to thank you. To catch up, here's
the wrinkle from the Hershel Walker trade. I think this
clip starts though, with Jimmy being a total insular person.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Can we say one thing about his health before we
play this. It has always been astonishing to me that
Jerry cranks like he does in his eighties, having drank
as much whiskey as he has, no doubt, makes me
think that there's medicinal properties and whiskey we should be exploring.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
Yeah, he's had a new drug, a rare drug saved
him from the cancer he was talking about. Yeah, I
think this clip starts with talking about Jimmy Johnson just
basically all he cares about school. He sounds like a
nerd to hang out with in this clip.

Speaker 7 (51:19):
But ultimately we were optimistic because we had an ace
up our sleeve.

Speaker 10 (51:23):
Now.

Speaker 7 (51:23):
The thing people didn't realize about the Hearsheld trade there
was actually a catch. If we cut five players, then
Minnesota would have to give us.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
Five picks, one for every player.

Speaker 7 (51:37):
Mike Clan, who was the general manager, conjured up this
idea that since we were losing so many games, he
thought we would follow in love with the player and
want to take the player rather than the picks.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
I called my clan up.

Speaker 7 (51:52):
I said, Mike, we're going to release the players, and
he said, I don't believe you'll do it.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
We did it. And we got the picks.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
That football trades have changed over time. That was incredible.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
The thing I couldn't remember, Like, in my mind, I
always thought that was the diabolical plan, that they just
wanted the picks, they didn't want the players. But the
way that the docuseriies painted it out was that it
kind of developed and they were like, you know what,
what if we just go ahead and cut the players?
Do you think that was their plan the whole time?
So I didn't go back and look then, But in

(52:25):
my mind I thought they got players and picks. I
didn't remember that wrinkle at all. Yeah, So no, I
think they probably wanted those picks. Were they shrewd enough
to trick them into giving players that they would automatically
cut and like that, That would have been pretty shrewd
if they just fleeced Minnesota and Minnesota's like, oh, they'll

(52:45):
never cut these players, and all along they planned on
doing it and getting the picks.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Yeah, strange deal, A huge deal to rebuild the Cowboys, and.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
The details are so vague on there that it's hard
to even know that this is what got them though.
Emmet Russell, Maryland Pup and Darren Will Woodson.

Speaker 8 (53:03):
I thought they got pup out of there. Kevin Smith.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Oh, Kevin Smith, Okay, yeah, maybe yeah, And you know
they had because they also had their pick, like I
think Russell mary Russell Maryland was their pick. Yeah, because
that Russell Maryland was top three pick, wasn't he was?
He number one? Was there for sure? Yeah. And by
the way of all those guys, he was just a guy.
He was good. He was good.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
He was incredible in college though, an incredibly disruptive player.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
So you know, that's uh, that's kind of everything that's
happened with the trade. Now you move on to that season.
Obviously they also game. The next season, they're doing well
and then Troy gets hurt and then they bring in
Steve Berline, who's done comedy recently at a comedy club.
Steve Berline as who Jimmy picks. We'll get into that,

(53:52):
how Troy felt about that, and how that season ended up.

Speaker 7 (53:55):
Nick.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Thank you for tuning in today and every day. We
are rolling through a re cap of episode two of
America's Team The Gambler and his Cowboys, the new Netflix
docu series, and with more on that, here's kat.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
So where we left you off the Cowboys had had
the tough year at eighty nine, and then ninety began
winning some games a little bit, and then there were
six and five. They beat Washington in the middle of
the year. Things are looking well. Troy gets hurt, though,
Troy aightman the future gets hurt. What are you gonna do?
He's got to miss three or four games? What's time
to go to the playoffs? Troy thinks he's gonna play,

(54:28):
but Jimmy's like, no, I'm gonna go ahead and go
with Steve Burline. Okay, And this is how this went out.

Speaker 5 (54:35):
I was excited knowing the magnitude of what was about
to happen. I was going to be starting in Chicago
in our first playoffs game. Only then to read that
I was not going to be playing. Just said party,
he gets serious. I mean, it seemed like it was
like not even believable. I went and visited with Jimmy
and I told him I was under the belief that

(54:56):
he said I was going to be starting. Yeah, he
made it clear that this was a decision that he had.

Speaker 7 (55:00):
I wasn't worried about anybody's feelings, Troy's or thieves or
I was just trying to win a game.

Speaker 10 (55:06):
I am sticking with what I just got through, saying
a few minutes ago.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
This week Steve Berlin will start. Jimmy made his choice.
I was the guy.

Speaker 4 (55:15):
I don't make the decision.

Speaker 5 (55:16):
You were here. I just said here what I'm totally so,
I don't know I don't know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
A lot of things can happening, Steve maybe leaving this team.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
After all Jimmy liked about me is that I was
a lot more vocal as a leader than Troy Haigwood.

Speaker 6 (55:31):
To say, the Dallas doll Boys.

Speaker 7 (55:37):
Going away, the Soviet Union, my friend.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
I had to leave that in imagine a big time
comedian that's Chris Farley, if you didn't know, before a
playoff game, addressing the crowd.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
And having the same thing as that president of North
Texas that was hearing the feedback. It's clear, and again,
so much of this I can remember. I can't remember
if it's just I don't recall because it's been so long,
or if I didn't know it. But you know, obviously
that Jimmy Troy relationship was so incredibly strained, and it

(56:12):
was fascinating to watch how it was fractured. And why
it was fractured and how it was put back together,
which I'm sure you'll get into that, but just here
in Berlin say that, like, Jimmy liked Burlin because he
was energetic and loud and passionate and fiery and Troy wasn't.
And so I think Jimmy just read Troy not being
fiery and just thought he didn't care because he acted

(56:33):
like that, and nothing could have been further from the truth.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
It just feel like Steve Berlin was kind of like, oh, yeah,
you want me to be in a documentary, great, I'll
say some great things about me.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
I think like the thing about Troy too, and that
Jimmy relationship that you're talking about is Jimmy didn't make
an effort to get to know anybody. Yeah, and so
he already had a tight relationship with Michael Irvin from college,
you know, being a start at Miami, and they they
hit on this a little bit in the documentary. But
I remember at the time, the first time I heard

(57:04):
about this, I was in shock that Jimmy just got
rid of his wife because she slowed down.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
His foot card.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Can we not get into more of that? That's why
I was a little disappointed. They showed one picture of
her and they moved on. Well they bust does interrupt you.
They just brushed through it, and I was like, wait,
are they serious? Are they being sarcastic?

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Like it was?

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Actually it was a story that was covered quite a
bit around here when there was there was this whole
mythology that was being built up of Jimmy Johnson here
at the time, and they did hit on the asthma
field thing. That was funny, yeah, yeah, but that was
very much Jimmy was a tyrant. He you know, he
built this thing up and if you don't have the

(57:44):
time to put in that I put in, you're no
good to me. And so he projected this energy and
that's why when Jimmy started doing television we started seeing
a different part of his personality from how he was presented,
because how he was presented was he doesn't have time
for anybody except for himself, and if you got in
the way, he sacrificed you, and that includes his wife. Yeah, dude,

(58:04):
if he is gonna sacrifice his wife because it's slown
him down and bench the number one pick like that
was ballsy. All that was insane.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
I'll tell you. I tell you too.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
The one thing, you know, been some memories and stuff.
You know, there's certain details and things that you don't
think about, but when they start showing it to you,
it comes flooding back. I can't tell you. I remember
that Washington game very vividly. I mean, I remember undefeated.
I remember watching the game. I remember when Troy I
had forgotten that he had like a hyper extended knee,

(58:35):
but I remember him going down. I remember Berlin coming
in and seeing those plays like it starts flooding back
to you because that's when you started feeling like, wow,
we're good. And they were six and five going into Vexamaa,
and that was the turning point of everything, yeah, which
was incredible, which just lets you know it, I mean,

(58:55):
because then they went on to build a huge dynasty
after that. And the other thing too that it goes
to shit you with Troy going down and then winning
whatever it was, five in a row. It just goes
to show you that they had built everything up and
won the first playoff game.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (59:08):
Now, ostensibly Troy demands a trade.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
This one is kind of shorter, so.

Speaker 5 (59:11):
I think Jimmy miss Rat probably early on how important
winning was to make and how dedicated and motivated I
was to win. I think there was a time where
I told my agent, you know, you have to try
to work a deal and get me traded.

Speaker 7 (59:28):
It could jeopardize what we were building Torch, and I said, Jimmy,
it's Troy Egman as our quarterback for the long haul.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
I think it was a mistake to start Burlin.

Speaker 7 (59:38):
I don't think so, because we were so poor in
our past. Defancy wouldn't have made any to who the
quarterback was.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
So how do you fix the you know what?

Speaker 2 (59:46):
I think Troy was referring to there by the way,
when he said he went to his agent to get
a trade, I think that was from the Walls era.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
I don't think that was during the Berlin game.

Speaker 12 (59:55):
Then.

Speaker 8 (59:56):
I think it was during the Wall stuff when he wanted.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
There's a few Episode one was so great and episode
two is very good too, but not on the level
episode one. And there's a few discrepancies that I've seen
so far. And that's interesting that you say, because we're
trying to say one sports radio station in town was
happening in nineteen eighty nine.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
So well, yeah, But to show Troy going out and
working out just for the media to let the media
know he's healthy so they might put pressure on Jimmy.

Speaker 8 (01:00:23):
That was crazy, too, dude. This is so wild. All right,
let's keep this thing going.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
We continue our review of episode two of America's Team,
The Gambler and His Cowboys, the new Netflix docu series,
and it continues next and in skin Show ninety seven
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Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Continuing our review of episode two of the new Dallas
Cowboys documentary that dropped on Netflix. So where we left
you off is Jimmy's talking about choosing Steve Berline over
Troy and also saying it wouldn't have matter. We weren't
gonna want to holl that year anyways because their past
defense sucks. Well, what do you do to fix the defense?
You go make some more moves. And this is where

(01:01:27):
Charles Haley gets brought into the picture.

Speaker 7 (01:01:29):
Forty nine ers called the Cowboys. Let's say, would you
be interested in Charles Haley? The only problem was we
heard some hard stories that.

Speaker 10 (01:01:39):
Charles always found a rookie that he wanted to pick on,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Calling me up.

Speaker 10 (01:01:47):
In ninety two, I heard the Charles walked up into
the general manager's office.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
He pulled out as on his desk concept. This is
how bad I want out of here.

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
How can a player go against his coaching faft like this?

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
George Sefer was the head coach. He was a micromanager.
I hated it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
I've tried to hit the head coach.

Speaker 7 (01:02:14):
I knew ice involvement what the Cowboys might be, but
I'm a huge believer in realbilitation.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
The chalk I got your back.

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
A lot of crazy people in this whole documentary, but
Chad Hale it's especially kind of crazy, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 6 (01:02:34):
He's so great in this.

Speaker 8 (01:02:35):
Michael, Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
So I can't help but think that that blew up
in San Francisco's face. They were clearly trying to Trojan
Horse the Cowboys. What you don't call the other best
team in the NFC and go, hey, what a game
changing player's because they didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Know they were the other best team in the NFC.
They knew they were on the come.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Yeah they were there yet I don't know, Kat after
making the playoff the year before and having the roster
they had, if they weren't paying attention to the Cowboys,
they're idiots. They tried to Trojan Horse him.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Does that did that stop you from trading Micah to
the Packers or something like that? I guess it's different.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
It's more different in your division, not the divisions in
the conference.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Yeah, it's right. I don't know exactly. I wouldn't trade
Micah to Washington or Philly. I don't think that would
stop me from trading Micah to Green Bear, Detroit or whoever.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
But nobody knows, like really what it's like to work
with a guy than the team.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
Who has him.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Sure, and if he's going to walk in stand on
the general manaerser's desk and urinate on it. And you know,
we heard other stories too, like shocking stories that dude
was not right all there and just hearing in the
documentary him talking about his three different personalities. Yeah, I mean,
if you give it that to another team, you probably
do think it's a ticking time bomb. I mean measuring

(01:03:56):
himself all yeah, using the same body part with a
different bodily funk.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
And that was rating staff.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Oh my god, if you don't know that was Bill
Romanowski talking about getting picked on.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
Yeah, well, you know he turned him into what he was, right, sure,
Charles Haley, he might have never been that guy. Maybe
Charles Haley created a monster like that. Who knows. Well,
this is where Jimmy kind of lost the team a
little bit that year. Though they're winning games, having a
good time, the players are hanging out a great pleasant
scene in the documentary were all in the pool and
a nice little song is playing in the background, and

(01:04:29):
then Troy's got to break the news to Jimmy, like, dude,
they don't like you.

Speaker 5 (01:04:34):
He started to realize that what we had was so special.

Speaker 9 (01:04:39):
Right now, that Dallas Cowboys, I think the best team
in the National.

Speaker 5 (01:04:43):
Football League and this town was ecstatic. I mean, it
was really fun. Jimmy didn't quite feel that way.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Even though we're winning, we're winning, we're winning.

Speaker 8 (01:04:53):
Jimmy Johnson off with the head set.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
I don't think I've ever seen him not upset. Jimmy
Chiefs did more intense in the regular season.

Speaker 5 (01:05:02):
We've lost with what we thought was going to be
a win, but it wasn't. One of these dejecting losses.

Speaker 7 (01:05:10):
After that loss, we get on the plane and I
am just fuman because of the way we played. So
the flight attendant starts to serve the meal and I say, no,
no meal.

Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
They don't deserve to eat.

Speaker 7 (01:05:25):
We couldn't eat, man, We were starving, man, eat, can't
even eat on the damn plate.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Grown ask men to just played the whole football game
for you.

Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
He was a dictator.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
He was a talk.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
That that's the story that made it out. And not
eating on the airplane, Yeah, that got out in about the.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Imagine that happening now. The coach would be canceled so fast,
I mean, the players Association would get involved.

Speaker 8 (01:05:50):
Yeah, I guess it was a way different time for sure.

Speaker 9 (01:05:53):
Well, even his little asthma comment would have gotten him
in trouble.

Speaker 6 (01:05:56):
Whatever was moves there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
How hard coaches really do speak to their play, Yeah,
like there's very few that do that. Can you imagine
I can't even imagine at all Shody getting close to
ripping someone's ass.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
It's just such a different era. He's a different style too,
he's their souf. It's like there's the disciplinarian, then there's
the players coach, you know, there's the psychiatrist, then there's
the you know, engineer or whatever. There's all these different
and you lean one way too far. You got to
correct it, over corrected and lean the other way. But shot,
he's like the biggest player's friendly, media friendly coach.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Ever. I think he's a complete meathead. But this is
why Rabel interested me a little bit. And he's not
the Patriots coach. Yeah, he's doing because he's a psychopath
and we hadn't had a psycho gonna be a head.

Speaker 8 (01:06:39):
Coach here in a long time since barcels I go.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
Jerry talked about in the first episode of this thing
about you know, taking risk and going the otherwise, Like, dude,
you hired Jason Garrett and then Mike McCarthy and then
Brian Schottenheimer before that way, Like dude, you have not
taken risks at the head coach thing in twenty years.
Last clip I pulled here and this is how Troy

(01:07:02):
and Jimmy finally bonded.

Speaker 5 (01:07:04):
When the season finally ended, Jimmy walks into the locker
room to talk to the team. We just had our
best season, and he's starting into this speech about having
won the division and the postseason and he was given
us that moment that we had never gotten. And then
the door to the locker room opened up and he
stops and turns around and it was Jerry and a

(01:07:27):
few of his friends, and Jimmy just stopped and said
congratulations and went to his locker and it was over.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
And so, okay, I gotta stop this because there's a
little more of this clip, but that, to me, it
was Troy maybe a little bit driving out of his
way to run Jerry over just for a second, pointing. Yeah,
but that story maybe it's important later in the documentaries.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
Okay, yeah, but it's like, they're this important moment with
the head coach and his team, like doing real football things,
and here Jerry comes in with his friends maybe advertising
who knows and brings them right in and ruins that moment.

Speaker 8 (01:08:03):
Do you think that's going to be covered later?

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Absolutely, it's foreshadowing we're going to get into when he's
bringing Elizabeth Taylor on the field. We're going to get
into when he brings the prints onto the field, Like,
that's definitely foreshadowing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
Well, that equate to our getting to the narrative of
losing games and the two thousands on.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
No, no, no, it's going to get into the narrative
of the fracture of Jimmy and Jerry.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Yeah, okay, you know in other.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Words, I mean, and it also I think to me,
at least it shows you what a butthole Jimmy is, like,
he's he's distracted by that to even let them have
their moment. Now, if I remember correctly, the we're getting
into so you're you're done.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
With the audio, right, yeah? No, and Troy getting along
go with it.

Speaker 5 (01:08:52):
We didn't get that moment that we thought we deserved.
The next night, we had our Christmas party and the
guy said, they're going. I mean, I'm the quarterback, I
have to go. There wasn't anyone there. Jimmy and I
were talking and I told him, I said, players aren't happy.
And one conversation led to another. We started talking about aquariums,
and I said, you know, I always thought about getting

(01:09:12):
an aquarium.

Speaker 4 (01:09:13):
Had three or four in my home in Dallas, and.

Speaker 5 (01:09:16):
Then he says, hey, what do you say we go
get you an aquarium after practice? I said, okay, So
we did, and the next thing, you know, he came
put it together in my house.

Speaker 7 (01:09:26):
So it just kind of help build a relationship talking
about things other than football.

Speaker 5 (01:09:31):
After that, he'd come over with a six pack of
Heineken and the aquarium was in my master bedroom and I
had a chair and there he'd just go PLoP down
in that chair and drinks his Heinekens and watch the fish.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
It's the weirdest damn thing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
I can't even believe that. Okay, so the aquarium was
in his master bedroom. It sounded like Jimmy would just
take a six pack in there by himself and sit
in a chair, not even with Troy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
That's so I to it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
And the other thing that made me think about is
this is a person who's run everybody off in there's
You know, I can't just on a weak night at
ten o'clock go sit and Ben's master bedroom because I
got a family and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
I think that'd be cool. But if you have nobody
in your family, if you have nobody, if you run
everybody off. You can go silently sit in someone's bedroom
and look at their fish.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
They say you can have friends or success, pick one, right,
and you look at I immediately think of the Bulls
documentary when I'm watching this.

Speaker 8 (01:10:25):
What was that thing called Last Dance? Yeah, Last Dance,
the Last Dance.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
Just how you know maniacal Jordan was and how the
basketball was the focus, right or just competitiveness or whatever,
like whatever he was doing, he just didn't have friends.
It sounds similar to Jimmy, like just maniacal, psychotic dedication
to just one thing. And this was really sad, I thought.

(01:10:49):
But those guys, those guys actually eventually bonded when Jimmy
learned that, oh winning means everything to Troy too.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
Yeah, oh my god, let's stare at fish together and
go win.

Speaker 8 (01:11:00):
It's very strange. Yeah, and we'll go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Well, Jimmy had kids at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Yeah, he had kids from his faith. They just he
just ran everybody off, dude. And so we're gonna get
into this next. But also I think in the next
episode we're about to have is that where Jimmy says
put it in ten inch headline.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
I've seen nothing on episodes. Okay, watch it tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
Okay, uh, because coming we'll get in an episode three tomorrow.
But the winning is about to happen in a big way.
Great stuff. Really enjoying it. I hope you're enjoying it
with us. I'll never forget the time KT looked Charles
Hayley dead in his crotch and he said, I'll f
with the ocean. And and so Charles and Jimmy went
and got some hind again and stared at Kat's fish.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
Christina, are you gonna stick around and play music till
ten o'clock? All right? We got Christina the next four
hours right here on the eagle.

Speaker 5 (01:11:46):
There you going, Sorry, I'm gonna get some cheeks after
this horse college.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
I had to take a poop