Full Show: August 22, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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a rabbit.

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Two the end zone out, break it up, beat the habit,
I won't hang out with her friends? Rocking it on
the radio.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
Mom Moist talking on the radio, It's time to to
this walk.

Speaker 5 (00:53):
All up.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
All the home on radio.

Speaker 6 (01:02):
Ah.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yes, Hello and welcome everybody.

Speaker 7 (01:04):
You are listening to the world famous Ben and Skin
Show on a Friday.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Happy Friday, everybody.

Speaker 7 (01:08):
Hope you have awesome plans this weekend, doing fun stuff
with people that you love, spending time with, making some memories.
Don't forget. If you want to listen to our show
this weekend, you can. It's on the iHeart app. Just
search Ben and Skin and you could listen at night.
You can listen on the weekend. You make the rules.
You're kind of a badass. Now Christina is no longer
with us, so we should probably just get that out

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of the way. The people who are here are me,
Ben Rogers, Jeff skin Wade, Kevin kt Turner, but Christina
mayshe you rest in peace.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Y'all want to do a tribute? I mean no, but
how that's a great question. What's the best of tribute?

Speaker 7 (01:45):
Okay, why don't we if you're out there driving around
the Metroplex, just drive through Crandall and honk.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, I think that's good.

Speaker 7 (01:53):
You know, Kat, didn't you promise her that you were
going to get billboards up and crandall? That's at home
of Christina kre Cornbread Ray.

Speaker 8 (02:00):
No, I think that was a kind of a mayor contest, John,
did you have the Crandall mayor on?

Speaker 1 (02:04):
We did?

Speaker 8 (02:05):
I drift through Crandall last Saturday? But well, I wasn't driving.
I was riding and I fell asleep, so I didn't see.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Much of it. Were you on your motorcycle?

Speaker 4 (02:14):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (02:14):
No, I was in the backseat of a car. My
wife was driving. I was like, I'm gonna get in
the back and go to sleep.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
I'm dying for you to be a motorcycle guy.

Speaker 8 (02:21):
Nah, I don't feel like that'd be good for me.
I feel like i'd get to top heavy.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Just like Dolly Parton. Yeah, back starts coming up. Uh.

Speaker 7 (02:29):
So today we're not doing the Today Game. It's been canceled. Yeah,
and it's usually at four forty and you have to
listen live. But I did see that one of the
things on the Today Game today is that it's tooth
very day. Oh and so it reminded me of the
poop tooth story. Kevin by me, I think you've been

(02:52):
in that scenario before. I have not explained the poop
tooth story, Ben Well. The poop tooth story is when
I was growing up, I snuck my big brother's car
out and he got really mad at me for doing that.
And when I got home, god, I want to say
I was fifteen maybe, And when I got home, he

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punched me in the mouth and snapped one of my
teeth in half. Okay, one of my very front teeth.
So I had to get a veneer over that tooth.
And many years later, I was playing pickup basketball and
a guy we know named Travi hit me square in
the mouth with an elbow. Unbelievably, had you snuck his

(03:34):
car out, no, and it snapped the veneer in half
and half of the root tooth that was holding the veneer.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
That sounds really painful, dude.

Speaker 7 (03:46):
And that cost I think it was six thousand dollars,
and my dental insurance wouldn't cover it because they said
that it was cosmetic. Cosmetic, Yeah, like it was already
a fake two and so it's a veneer. And so
I had to go pay cash, like six thousand dollars
to make sure that I didn't have like a straight

(04:09):
up missing front tooth.

Speaker 8 (04:10):
On Michael's treehand gap.

Speaker 7 (04:12):
I bet today that would cost anywhere between twelve and
fifteen thousand dollars. And I'm not even adjusting it for
normal inflation. My dad was going through an emergency root
canal situation yesterday and weighing options, and the numbers they
were coming back at him with were just astronomical. I bet,
if you wanted to do one cosmetic veneer today, I

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bet it's twelve to fifteen thousand dollars. If not more,
it's crazy. It's crazy. So I had already gone through
that with my insurance company and knew that it's cosmetic,
So if I had to replace the veneer.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
I was looking at six thousand dollars.

Speaker 9 (04:44):
Ugh.

Speaker 7 (04:46):
So one night I was sleeping and I woke up
the next day something feels funny in my mouth and
I went to smile in the mirror before I brushed
my teeth and I was missing that ear, and so
I was like, oh, yeah, okay, so it must.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Be in the bed somewhere. Where do I find it?

Speaker 7 (05:08):
I reached out to my dentist and they were like,
I was like, you guys have already run the mold
on that. I'm sure I don't have to go get
fitted for it and all that stuff again. Can you
just make another one? And they're like, no, it's the
whole process again. It's going to be whatever the cost
was the first time.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
God.

Speaker 7 (05:24):
So, because it wasn't glued on tight enough, I needed
to go find it in my bed or I was
going to be out six thousand dollars again. So twelve
thousand dollars cash on it one tooth oh Man because
of an elbow and a punch that I deserved. So
I deserve the punch, not the elbow.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Not the elbow. I think it might have been.

Speaker 7 (05:43):
I think you could have written it off as a
business expense, because a salesperson needs that tooth. Yeah, And
so I looked far and wide in my bed and
could not find it.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
And so I called the dentist back.

Speaker 7 (05:56):
I'm like, I don't know what to do, Like I
can't find it, and they said, well, this is not uncommon.
It's very possible that you swallowed it in your sleep.
And I was like, okay, so how does that help
us there? And said, well, what people have been known
to do in these situations is to go get a
sifter out of the kitchen, oh man, and defecate through

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the sifter, like put it between the pood delivery and
the water in the toilet and like you're digging for gold.
And depending on how frugal you are, you may keep
that sifter and just make sure you wash it in
the dishwasher.

Speaker 8 (06:33):
Did you give you any like it'll take you two days,
three days for it to pass. Oh, it's got to
be your one day. He doesn't just go right through
your body, that does. Yeah, I don't. I don't know.

Speaker 7 (06:43):
I don't remember that part of it because I was
so distracted by do I save six thousand dollars and
put a tooth that has been.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Pooped out of my body back in my mouth.

Speaker 7 (06:55):
And they were like, oh, yeah, you know, we we
can sanitize it and everything and it's it'll be fine.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
I'm like, yeah, but will it?

Speaker 7 (07:02):
And my wife will always know, and I'll always know,
and anyone I've told will always know. You don't want
to have a dead tooth, and you don't want to
have a poop tooth. Yeah, and even if it looks good,
everyone knows, man, that is a poop tooth. And you
taste it every day, all day every day. You even
if you can't, your brain thinks you taste it. And

(07:22):
you have to take an ad out to let everybody
know that you have a poop tooth. So at Billboard
that six thousand dollars or whatever the number is. You
have to decide, like everybody has a number. Like if
that was Dirk Novitzky, you know who's super wealthy, you know,
or Dak or CD or any any pro athletes who've

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made a ton of money, they would just say, yeah,
I'll just get a new tooth.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
It's six grand I don't care.

Speaker 7 (07:51):
Dirk is frugal though, but he when that tooth of
what was that guy's named Carl Landry up. So it's
like somebody that has a lot of money would just
be yeah, man, I'll just pay for a new tooth.
There's no question. I'm not going to go sift it out.
But if you don't have a lot of money like me,
if you're a radio guy, you're like, eh, what is

(08:14):
that number? So if I told you it's fifty bucks
to replace the tooth, you just replace the tooth.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Sure.

Speaker 7 (08:19):
If I tell you it's one thousand dollars to replace
the tooth, you just replace the tooth.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Probably.

Speaker 7 (08:24):
But if I tell you it's ten thousand dollars or
twenty thousand dollars or fifty thousand, like, where is the number?
What is your poop tooth number? It's twenty five hundred.
I'll take the risk that I'll just be I like
that you have one.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
That's good.

Speaker 8 (08:39):
I'll try to be the next straight hand.

Speaker 7 (08:41):
It's not a gap gap, it's a missing tooth, like
you will look homeless or a meth addict.

Speaker 8 (08:48):
Anyways, text that it's okay, Yeah, it's fine.

Speaker 7 (08:51):
We don't have a text message thing here, so just
text into the fan and let them know. Two one
four seven eight seven one oh five three, What is
your poop tooth number? What's the numb umber at which
you'd go ahead and buy it? And what's the number
in which you're like, Nope, I'll just go ahead and sift, yeah,
and direct it to Chia follow yep. Coming up next,
it's things skin is Tracking? Where are you gonna take us?

Speaker 10 (09:10):
I can't believe people are worked up about this track?

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Another edition of Things Skin Is Tracking? All right.

Speaker 7 (09:22):
I don't know what y'all's morning routine is. Mine is
to I get up as early as I can, I
do my Japanese interval walking, and then I sit down,
I drink coffee, and I start scrolling the internet see
if there's any stories. I grab my attention and I
really hate what's happened to twitter x.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
It's tough.

Speaker 7 (09:43):
I mean, it used to be my main source of
like finding things that I think are interesting to talk about,
but now it's also politically charged, even the sports stuff.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
It's crazy.

Speaker 7 (09:54):
And so I'm looking and I'm reading a tweet that
I find humorous. I didn't even look at who the
guy was talking about it, but he's talking about cracker
Barrel going woke, and he's like, come on, man, I
found Christ in a parking lot of a cracker barrel
I worked at. And I'm just seeing all this reactions.
I'm like, what has happened Christ? He found it like

(10:15):
a stain on a wall that looked like Jesus. No, no, no,
he accepted the Jesus Christ as his savior, apparently in
a parking lot at a cracker barrel. Okay, so the
cracker barrel has very significant meaning to this guy. And
I've seen this politician before. He's a big guy in Florida.
Like he's pretty well known Desantus. No, it's not him,
he's a he's a congressman. And so anyways, I'm starting

(10:37):
I'm looking at all the chatter under this because I
was completely unaware. Maybe you guys were aware. Did you
know cracker barrel? What through a rebrand?

Speaker 1 (10:45):
I did?

Speaker 7 (10:47):
I have seen all This is one of my favorite
things in the world, when you know, looking at logos,
considering logos, updating logos.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
I love all of it.

Speaker 7 (10:55):
Okay, did you have a strong thought on the cracker
barrel rebrand?

Speaker 1 (10:59):
I thought it was long overdue.

Speaker 7 (11:00):
And like when you go into a cracker barrel, first
of all, you go through that gift shop.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
It's so weird.

Speaker 7 (11:08):
But just the logo itself is an old, old white
dude who's in a wooden chair leaning against a barrel.
And they basically just removed the white dude and the
barrel and just made it a kind of a newer
looking font. They did, and they also changed the shape.
But one of the things they did with which I
don't like. On the New Year's Ben Joy saying this,

(11:30):
you see, here's the old one, KT here's a new one,
is with they put the font in a barrel. All right,
barrel shape makes sense, but the font to me is
like so small compared to the rest of the barrel.
The barrel overpowers the font to me. So But anyways,
it's not the sort of thing that I would normally
care about, and I really don't care about, but I'm

(11:51):
so interested in the reaction. Dude, I love that stuff,
and I love the new logo. I think it's significantly better.
And they also renovated the inside of the restaurants and
dated I'm a little bit into one. I haven't been
to a Cracker Barrel in maybe a decade, but I
saw the pictures of the renovations and it looks much better. Okay, good. Yeah,
it's because I saw a modern farmhouse. So I'm thinking
Chip and Jojoe. I guess modern farmhouse. But one of

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the things. So, there's a cracker Barrel near me in Alan,
right there off seventy five near McDermott somewhere.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Pretty good.

Speaker 7 (12:20):
Well, I want to go in it now and take
a look, because just walk around. You just walk around.
I mean, there's dude, that's what happens. It's the whole
there's a whole movie about banks. He called Exit through
the Gift Shop, and it's about the commercialization of the world.
And so when you go to Cracker Barrel, you enter
and you exit through the gift shop and so and

(12:41):
it's very much like an old country store. Yeah, and
so the trick is, all right, your kids are not
going to make it out of here without buying a
piece of junk. One of the problems with that, though,
is you've created tons of clutter. Oh my god, because
that is the most cluttered for sure place Like just
like I walk in and get anxiety.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
I'm like, God, is there. Do they serve food here?
And well they do.

Speaker 7 (13:05):
You can smell it and then you sit down and
the pancakes are badass foods.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Really good pancakes are badass.

Speaker 7 (13:12):
But I'm like, so the discourse, because this is all
of our discourse now, is about Okay, Cracker Barrel's gone woke,
and I'm like, I'm looking at it and I'm going,
how well, how's that that's what you deduce out of this?
They changed a logo, they didn't add like a wrapper

(13:33):
on it. It's they just simplified the logo. As every
chain restaurant in the world.

Speaker 10 (13:41):
They're not allowed to do that. I still want to
white down it. You know what, the old logo didn't
have a Confederate flag.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
I pissed. I mean, it's like, there's nothing about this.

Speaker 10 (13:49):
It says anything about DEI or wokeness. They just decluttered
their logo just as they're trying to declutter their restaurants.
And all you have to do is look at any
story about any business in the hospitality world right now,
and they're all trying to It's like the Jack in
the box story we had and the chili story we

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had in the app. I mean, there's another story about
this every single week.

Speaker 7 (14:17):
Why does this have to be a political touchstone? The
stock has plunged of it. By the way, they've lost
as much as ninety four million dollars in market value.

Speaker 8 (14:26):
It took off on social media too, and that's a
big part of the reason. Like this happened to Wingstop recently,
wing Stop changed their fries, okay, and their stock has
gone way down after being up in twenty twenty four,
way down because people on TikTok crack. I went to
wing Stop and they're just crapping on the restroom because
they changed their fries.

Speaker 7 (14:44):
They made them Republican fries. No, I blame both parties,
and I hate both parties. I hate all of it.
I hate it, hate it so much. It's exhausting. It's exhausting.
I don't again, I'm not following the cracker barrel lineage.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
I don't understand.

Speaker 7 (15:01):
Like even the stuff I went and read and saw
was like, I don't understand how any of this is political, Like, so.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
So what story? Though?

Speaker 8 (15:07):
You know, the news outlets are partially to blame for
a lot of the stuff. I think what it is
is that opera social media politicize it for their own
gain and then people react to it.

Speaker 7 (15:18):
It also could be ai yeah, oh sure, like here
KEI search for something that can be divisive and political
and put out a billion tweets about it.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Right now, I think you're right.

Speaker 7 (15:30):
Anyways, that's crazy. Uh I guess eat a pancake.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
I don't know. Good luck everybody, good luck?

Speaker 11 (15:36):
All right?

Speaker 7 (15:36):
Coming up next, we crank up the wayback Machine, the
very first ever Mosquito in the whole prank.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
That's right, you're gonna get to hear it. Next, it's
time to in. That's really good.

Speaker 8 (15:53):
Mike, the Mosquito, Moscato, Bubba the Hulk, or two guys
you might have heard of. They together when they touch
tips and buying forces. There, Mosquito and the Hulk. I
forgot his first name was Bubba. Yeah, Bubba the Hulk
and Bubba the Love Hulk. And they're a first go
round in this world. Happened on this week ten years ago. Wow,

(16:14):
they're celebrating their tent year anniversary, are they?

Speaker 1 (16:16):
And I have the very.

Speaker 8 (16:17):
First edition of Mosquito and the Hulk, the fake radio
show that we've done on the show for many years.
Your guest, Ryan van Bibber. Ryan van Bibber is a
RAMS blogger. Sounds like a very fun guy, but this
is the first time we broke out.

Speaker 7 (16:32):
Mosquito and the Hulk from ten years ago. And here's
the beauty of this. We don't even really need to
set it up too much because this is the debut anyway,
so they almost like you're listening to it for the
first time.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Yeah, here we go. I have to grab a plate.

Speaker 10 (16:45):
Lead some sports said, Hey, everyone's very excited about the
Dallas Cowboys being out there at Oxtard, California.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
The Hulk.

Speaker 10 (16:52):
The great thing about it, it's dual practice with the
Saint Louis Rams. They're out there joining us from the
sb DA. Shit, he's rid. It's Ryan van Bember right,
how you doing today?

Speaker 9 (17:03):
I'm good.

Speaker 6 (17:04):
How are you guys doing today?

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Bemberre doing great?

Speaker 10 (17:06):
Super excited to have you in the midday sports buffet.
And let's get it going right from the start. Grab
a plate, let's talk some sports hook. It's time for
the appetizer. Where do we want to take Ryan from
the jump?

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Dude?

Speaker 11 (17:18):
I just want to know, like, how do the Rams
look against the Cowboys? Is it pretty closing?

Speaker 4 (17:23):
Ah?

Speaker 6 (17:24):
The Ram the Cowboys had a little bit, uh, got
a little bit better of the Rams yesterday.

Speaker 10 (17:28):
Yeah, Hey, that's a tasty appetizer to get us going
on the midday sports buffet. Baba, I heard you making
some noise over there with yeah for dinner last night.

Speaker 11 (17:37):
Big boyl night got on the grill through some chicken
breast who was very delicious and some veggies.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Trying to stay on this day.

Speaker 7 (17:45):
Hey, you're doing good on that diet. You I'm starting
to remember what's happening now. So Mosquito and Hulk took
on a life of their own. But originally this was
about the sports Buffleil show in Austin.

Speaker 10 (17:56):
Yes, this was about the stupidity of having a show
based on sports. Dude, and you're eating it lunch, and
everything we do is somehow tied into food.

Speaker 7 (18:04):
So of course if it's the sports buffet, there's a
super huge fat guy on the show.

Speaker 8 (18:08):
Once before this even happened, we were joking around at
the sports buffet in Austin and just.

Speaker 10 (18:13):
Okay, let's do our own sports buffet, all right, right, Hey,
you're doing good on that diet too. Got up there
worked over that greed egg. Right, have you ever had
anything on a greed egg?

Speaker 6 (18:22):
I have quite a bit.

Speaker 10 (18:23):
You're actually with your diet. You losed a little weight.
Looks like you're down how much?

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Wait?

Speaker 11 (18:27):
If you lost BUBBALLI pounds total?

Speaker 1 (18:30):
What are you down to? About six fifteen? Unbelievable? Changing
up his diet?

Speaker 3 (18:36):
Right?

Speaker 1 (18:36):
You got any big boys in your pusse?

Speaker 5 (18:39):
I do not?

Speaker 1 (18:41):
You need to get out big boys? Don't wait? Participate?

Speaker 10 (18:44):
That's right, that's what we say here at the midday
sports buffet. Ryan, why don't you grab yourself a plate
and step on up for the maid course? Are you
guys in say Louis worried that you're gonna lose your
rams to Los Angeles?

Speaker 6 (18:58):
Yeah, there's a lot of tension on that right right now,
and it certainly looks like the owner is uh, the
owner is ready to go.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
All right, let's reach it back to food. You only
have one food.

Speaker 11 (19:09):
Forever, or you're gonna have hamburgers from where the water
and what you putting on them?

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Be bus? Would you put him be more? It sad home, baby?
You said you can't cook on the egg. You know
you ain't cooking you He said you can't go on.

Speaker 10 (19:30):
The he Oh, he got you in the trap? Now right,
what are you gonna do? Learn?

Speaker 6 (19:35):
I'll take a class before I go out there.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
That's stupid. They don't teach classes on deserted islands.

Speaker 10 (19:39):
What do you think about you, Bubba? What would be
your deserted island deal?

Speaker 11 (19:43):
No, for I spent a lot of time thinking about this.
For real, for me, he had to be pizza rolls,
not pizza pizza rose.

Speaker 8 (19:50):
The rolls like like right out of a bikewave.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
I don't cook him in the microwave. You can't. You can't.

Speaker 11 (19:55):
You treat yourself. You're cheating yourself. You make him a
microwave get too softy. You gotta make him into like
a to oven.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Tolosa other Have you ever read Pizza Rolls Ride?

Speaker 10 (20:04):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (20:04):
Yeah, definitely Genos.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
What's your favorite?

Speaker 6 (20:08):
I don't know. It's been a while since I've had
the pizza roles, to be honest with.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
You, like a poser to be cold. Are you a
pizza ol guy or not?

Speaker 6 (20:15):
Rick, I'm not a U pizza old guy anymore.

Speaker 10 (20:18):
It's been a while, man, A lot of disappointment here
at the mid day sports buffet, Bubba.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
You scoring good on the sports and scoring bad on
the food.

Speaker 8 (20:26):
Toe Yeah?

Speaker 5 (20:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (20:28):
What are you like a little scotty guy that doesn't eat?
What's the deal?

Speaker 6 (20:32):
Unfortunately, the NFL takes all away all here. The NFL
takes so much time it's hard to get in some eating.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
What are you so busy doing?

Speaker 6 (20:40):
You know, everything from the Rams moving to Los Angeles
to Tom Brady in court everything in between.

Speaker 11 (20:46):
You write one story, they move it or they ain't.
And then you see Tom Brady with the weird picture
and you've done. You got some pizza rolls. You need
to be overthinging it.

Speaker 10 (20:54):
Watch out, Rick, You're the vice grip of Bubba the Whole.
When you hear that, you know you're trapped to the
big day sports buffet, the Mosquito bike, Moscato and Bubba
the Hope.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
I say, we move on down to some dessert.

Speaker 10 (21:12):
Let's get a delicious dessert to finish off our sports conversation.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
So what's the deal. Is Nick Foles the guy for
the Rams or what.

Speaker 6 (21:20):
Gonna be tough for Nick Foles or anybody that survived
behind that line?

Speaker 11 (21:24):
You take shots of the line, and I get it.
But you know, for me, everybody had me. You play ball,
and I was like, nah, but I look like I'd
be an offensive lineman because I'm big and whatnot. But
you know, but I'm big Rod.

Speaker 10 (21:36):
Sure, sure, yeah, there we go a little rod bab
blubbah the bid days. But buffet back Mosquito, Moscato and
Babba the Hulk. Let's hear the signature rob Babba, hold
on baba. All right, we're rocking and rolling here. All right,
coming up next part two. We're just three minutes away.
Don't go anywhere.

Speaker 7 (21:57):
The very first time the fake radio show Mosquito and
the Hulk air we played the first half. Let's jump
back into the second half as we have a Saint
Louis Rams blogger.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
On with us. All right, here's my favorite part of
the carry is Carrie, whoa. Let's share a little bit
my man Ryan, all right, me yoh, here's what's going

(22:27):
on here. They are clowning me. They laughing at me
because I want to do my whole role.

Speaker 10 (22:31):
It's a little too much. It's too much. Every day
he comes in there to want to do the Hulk.

Speaker 6 (22:37):
It one time, my identity.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
I would just want to roar all must saying as
you roar, don't have much of my life. I want
this and you're trying to take it away.

Speaker 10 (22:51):
That good lord, what do you think about that rid
that is impressive.

Speaker 6 (22:55):
Only a big man can pull something.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Man. I appreciate that, man, thank you for that.

Speaker 10 (23:00):
He's the biggest man. Hey, those are the biggest suspenders
I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Baba. Now listen. I wanted to.

Speaker 10 (23:05):
Get to share he gets carried, but Baba was making
me laugh. Baba, you've shared with us many time your
struggles with weight.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
I've struggling with my weight and that was little ran.

Speaker 10 (23:14):
Why don't you think about what you want to share
all this? I haven't had this problem in six months.
But I used to do a ton of coke, ton
of cocaine. I spent a lot of time in strip
clubs because I was I did have a lot of confidence.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
You didn't have a lot of people in your life
showing you the way to do it. Yeah, you know.
And I had to think with the mosquito influences. You
were dating a bad girl too.

Speaker 10 (23:34):
Yeah, I was just happy to have any girl. So
I got the coat behind me. I feel healthy, I
feeling good. We got a great midday show, midday sports
buffet pull up. I played Let's eat sports. Yeah that
it's bit's happy. So what about you, Ronnie? What is
share a little something with us?

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Sharing?

Speaker 6 (23:53):
I have a weakness and it's not real popular. But
those cookies from subway are really good. I really like
going and sneaking out and getting o the afternoon.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
I'm telling you, what, how many can you put away?

Speaker 10 (24:03):
I try to keep it at three.

Speaker 6 (24:04):
I could probably do a little bit more, but I
try to.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Keep it three. Oh no, I just celebrated.

Speaker 10 (24:14):
No, you farted, my god, the midday sports buffet.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Baba, that's what repids? Wow, doctor said the medicine going
to do that?

Speaker 12 (24:24):
Oh my god, I can't ss in here.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Ryan, you got to be mature. Can we be mature
about it? I just say you don't have to bring
it up in the interview.

Speaker 10 (24:35):
Gave me your parts in your body, as far as I'm concerned,
say that for a commercial break.

Speaker 11 (24:40):
Brian. You know that everybody you know, Ryan, you do
it too. Everybody does it.

Speaker 6 (24:47):
Let's be everybody does it.

Speaker 11 (24:48):
I read a book that said you can do it
eighteen times a day and it's too healthy.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
What book was that? Doing it?

Speaker 6 (24:53):
It's it's a sign of it's a sign of digestive
good digest.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
I do eighteen times per time in my car. I'll
be honest with you. My car smelled like an autopsy.

Speaker 10 (25:07):
Oh man, I'd like to see you guys in the
same car reds Blogger SB Nation, Babba, do you have
any final thoughts for yem Ussert?

Speaker 11 (25:16):
Would you give me a hope roll for confidence? You've
got to end it with seeing hope go at the
end of it. No, I mean do it together. You
gotta roar the whope part. You don't say hope. Yeah,

(25:37):
that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
That bad not bad. You a bad mother.

Speaker 10 (25:43):
I like you, boy, You're a bad mothering you wanna
do you want to pump up your Twitter account or
Instagrams there anything.

Speaker 6 (25:52):
That you're on. Follow me at a just RBB will
keep you updated on everything in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Hey man, for real, Thank you for but it's so real.
I love you man. That was the absolute give it up.

Speaker 10 (26:05):
That whigle of the rap blog SB Nations.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Coming up?

Speaker 10 (26:17):
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by Fluckers. If you don't like our wings, you can
go yourself. There is the greatness of Bubba and the
whole hell. Yeah, the mosquito, Bubba, the mosquito, No, what

(26:38):
is it?

Speaker 1 (26:39):
It's Bubba the whole can.

Speaker 7 (26:40):
What's the other guy's name mosquitosquit Mike the Mosquito Moscato.

Speaker 8 (26:45):
Good guh, that is so much fun?

Speaker 1 (26:47):
All right? Coming up next? Hey, should Jerry the owner
fire Jerry at the GM in real life in twenty
twenty five? Next?

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Now, The's Go Around.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
KG twins has all the sports.

Speaker 8 (27:04):
Yes, last night I was kind of thinking about, okay,
what we're gonna do for sports tomorrow. Let's see, can
be looking through a few things and oh, oh wait, wait,
Jerry dripped on Michael Irvin's YouTube channel.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
How often does Michael Irvin do that? I had no idea.

Speaker 8 (27:19):
I don't think he does very often.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
He's been doing it a lot recently. I don't know what.
It's a neat thing he's doing.

Speaker 8 (27:24):
Probably because the documentary and he's back in the line
wid and it's football season all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Any only on a couple of days ago. Is he
not with a major thing anymore?

Speaker 6 (27:31):
Or?

Speaker 1 (27:32):
I wondered. I don't know what the NFL network anymore?

Speaker 8 (27:35):
So, but I think he does like appearances on ESPN
from time to time on their you know, hot take
debate shows. He'll pop in there every once a Yeah. Okay,
so thirty minutes is about the documentary. The second thirty
minutes is about Mike's contract Jerry talking to Michael Irvin
about it. And keep in mind, Jerry's favorite person might

(27:56):
be Michael Irvin.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yeah, they love each other. So I thought this wild.

Speaker 8 (28:00):
I've pulled six clips that all pretty short, but he
did kind of escalate and suit you guys think about this. Uh,
this is Jerry telling Michael straight up what he offered Micah.

Speaker 9 (28:09):
It would have made him the highest guaranteed player other
than a quarterback in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
The world would know.

Speaker 9 (28:18):
That I want Mica if they knew what I had
offered him, and he knew what and he knows what
I offered him.

Speaker 8 (28:24):
Now keep in mind this is all going down. Micah
kind of simultaneously or a little after this was released,
had taken removed all Cowboys stuff off of social media,
which is you know that happens all the time. Everybody
does Everyone's done that. Yeah, CD did it. I knew
I did it, and I didn't even play for the Cowboys.

Speaker 7 (28:41):
It was almost exactly a year ago today that CD
did it.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
All right, you know it was pretty close. He took
a scrubbed the.

Speaker 8 (28:49):
Cowboys off all of his stuff, which I'm like, how
deep did people to investigated this scrub everything because most
of his social media over the last five years is
about being a cowboy, right. I don't know if he
completely of it now.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
If you keep in mind when this happened with Dak,
Dak played.

Speaker 8 (29:06):
You know, Dak was trying to get the contract and
then Dak played, And I think that's what Jerry is
kind of saying here, is like, Mike's under contract, so
if we can't get it done now. I think Jerry's
point of view here, and I do think Jerry will
cave because he always does. I think it's kind of
his point of view is, let's just look at what
Dak is. Dak is the president. I thought this was
very interesting.

Speaker 9 (29:25):
So the president is handling it like Dak, but in
this particular case, then Michael comes in and plays this
year under his contract and Vin dunnin it's very costly
for everybody, Just a little similar to what happened when
we didn't sign him and we didn't do well our
first two games.

Speaker 7 (29:45):
Didn't I mean it was under contract, wasn't he he was,
so I mean didn't have it set the president.

Speaker 8 (29:52):
This is what we'll get to probably in a little
bit when we discuss episode four of the documentary, which
we'll do in the five o'clock hour.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, you know, leverage for him.

Speaker 8 (30:00):
It was that the last first two games and the
rookie running back went very good.

Speaker 7 (30:04):
Yeah, Derrick Glassig was fumbling and dropping passes terrible, and
you had Charles Haley attacking people.

Speaker 8 (30:11):
Not going on there, of course, but this is where
Jerry says that, hey, look, we need Mica to win games.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
So you'd think we could just get this thing down.

Speaker 9 (30:18):
To win, and we should have him to win. We
can have him three years right now. We can have
him three years without having a disagreement. He'd be the
highest guaranteed player ever on defense.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
That's what he's been off.

Speaker 13 (30:32):
I'll let it go ahead that I'll drop this one
thing on you because this is.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
We wanted to send the details to the agent.

Speaker 9 (30:40):
The agent sold us to stick it up our assall
sew you're.

Speaker 8 (30:46):
Clear, okay, Now, I don't think the agent said that.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
I don't either.

Speaker 8 (30:51):
I think this is a big hot This is the quote,
yeah money quote from this.

Speaker 7 (30:57):
I think Jerry was trying to use his colorful language.
I think he was re representing the message, like I
think Mugalatta the agent or whatever. David Mugilatta said, we're
not interested in that. Don't bother sending it. We haven't
negotiated this deal yet. And Jerry was like, oh, so
you're telling us to stick that up our butt. I
think you're exactly right. I don't think. But hey, I

(31:18):
don't know this guy the agent. I did see that
he negotiated a billion dollars worth of contract.

Speaker 8 (31:24):
He's a top ten agent in sports.

Speaker 7 (31:25):
Yeah, so it's not like but I mean, this is
all everything, and it's being hammered home every time I
watch another episode of America America's Team the Gambler and
his Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
The vast majority of what.

Speaker 7 (31:41):
Jerry does is disingenuous. I mean he even started the
whole thing by saying fake it. Yeah, you know, it's
like all of it's disingenuous. So all of this is
just part of the show. He knows that he didn't
He knows he can't negotiate a contract with a player
and then have Steven send it to the agent.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
He knows that doesn't happen. Yeah, it's uh, it's.

Speaker 8 (32:03):
It's it's pretty frustrating. If you're a hardcore cowboy fan
and honestly, just talking about it a lot is getting
old and annoying. This is a new wrinkle though, to
do it with Michael Irvin. And coming up next we'll
discuss Jerry's plea to Michael Irvin to help get the
deal done.

Speaker 7 (32:20):
That's juicy right now we're talking about Jerry jumping on
with Michael Irvin.

Speaker 8 (32:24):
Yes, I'm going to replay this last part that we
played in the last eight we just so you can
hear this one more time.

Speaker 9 (32:29):
We wanted to send the details to the agent. The
agent soldiers to stick it up our ass.

Speaker 8 (32:38):
And Michael's face was shocked, like he had the face
of like if you paused it on your if you're
watching it on your computer and you paused it. Because
they're on zoom and they're up close the faces of
the people, it was like if Michael Irvin had they'll
go to his face, as if Jerry had whipped it out,
like he's like the faces both of them were making.

(32:58):
And if you want to use your imagine.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Oh god, well hold on it.

Speaker 7 (33:03):
This is and this is what Mike is referencing on
social media, probably when he says don't believe what he say.
Don't believe Yeah, don't believe what you hear. Everything you hear,
let's see or whatever.

Speaker 8 (33:13):
Matthew Lamar Jackson has done that with his contract negotiation.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
This is what happens, guy.

Speaker 8 (33:18):
And by the way, the best players in the league
don't leave their teams that they're on, right, they stay there.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
It rarely happens.

Speaker 7 (33:24):
I watched every bit of this and I loved it
because it was just, you know, it was like being
in a behind the scenes meeting between Irvin and Jones.
And if you watch the docu series on Netflix, you
see that Jones Jerry says this is his favorite player
ever and they have this incredible relationship and half for
all these years, and so it really was like a
sneak peek behind what their relationship is really like. Do

(33:45):
you have the audio where he was talking about, you know,
wanting him to go there and tell them what it's
like to stay with the.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
KA and Davis, Oh yeah, we're gonna get get there
for sure.

Speaker 8 (33:54):
This is a little more here, because this is Jerry
continuing to crap on the agent.

Speaker 9 (33:58):
Mike has got to do the play. What is the
least incremental part of the whole place, the attorney or
the agent he works for Miica. He's not the principal
here in any way. They're in here to make their percentage.

Speaker 8 (34:12):
And multiple times he threatened to use the front like
we've got it. He can't go anywhere. He's playing for us.
Three years. He's been talking about franchising him twice, which
is a horrible financial move. You should not and by
that time, at his age, I don't think you franchise
him at that point because it goes up.

Speaker 7 (34:30):
Yeah, and by the way, like the franchise tag is
in place for the reason it is. But just from
football economics, there's certain players you don't franchise, like that
might be one of them, and that position you don't
because you're way overpaying, you don't get spread the money around.
But also aside from that, there's just all the bad
blood that it creates, Like why would you want to

(34:50):
go through.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
That and see if this helps anything? Then?

Speaker 2 (34:53):
What did you do?

Speaker 9 (34:54):
We don't even have to have a hypothetical what did
you do? You and I work today?

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Right?

Speaker 9 (34:59):
Did you have an agent? No, we've had a lifetime relationship,
but operate in that way has put me in you
on the same page for a lot of years. And
I say that to Michael, you want to operate around
here with me? Then can you say to him that
what you do as a player can last for twenty

(35:21):
thirty years if it's done right with me?

Speaker 13 (35:23):
Right?

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Can you say that?

Speaker 1 (35:26):
And I do?

Speaker 13 (35:27):
And I do not to see him saved the CD lad,
I've laded to that. I've said it to all of them.
My concern here is Michael's more emotional than the other
guys that we do.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (35:40):
All Right, this was my favorite thing. This is my
favorite thing of the whole discussion. And I'm like, there's
no way the league is going to like this, right,
Like he's basically saying, and he's right, but he's basically saying, Look,
let's be partners for the next three decades. This is
a money tree and the apples are going to keep
falling off of it in one day when you're not

(36:01):
you know, when you see players getting paid way more
than you're even getting here and you need a gig,
guess what this star is gonna keep feeding you. Now,
you could go play for the Bengals, you can go
play for the Browns, you can go to some crappy
market where you're not gonna get all the extra things
that come with being a Dallas Cowboy. Let's not let
the agent get in the way. Let's not nickel and

(36:24):
dime each other. If we stay in business together, you're
set for life forever, even after your contract ends.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
I get all that.

Speaker 7 (36:32):
I think at this point in time, it's a disingenuous
argument from Jerry's perspective, because one I would go, dog,
you ain't got more than ten years left. Well, I
think it's the brand though, No, I get the brand,
but like, let's look at players from ten years ago,
right like that. One of the things about that is
the Cowboys haven't been this big winning brand. I mean,

(36:52):
they are a huge brand in sports, but like the
star who are the stars of the team obviously worked
out for the quarterbacks, Romo God getting paid, but they're
they're quarterbacks. Yeah, but they're Cowboys quarterbacks. Yeah yeah, yeah,
they're milking that.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (37:07):
I mean, I I don't know, like, is DeMarcus Ware
some big media star or is he making all this
money on it what he wants other stuff? Yeah, but
Micah seems to want to be a media guy, right,
I would say, like, Mike is so good, just.

Speaker 10 (37:23):
Pay him the money. He's worth the money high up
at Bleacher Report. So yeah, I need Jerry for that.
But it would help him for sure. I mean it
would help anyone. Yeah, it would help anyone to have that.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (37:36):
Here's the last one though. This is Jerry actually asking
Micah to do the deal.

Speaker 9 (37:40):
Why don't you grab Micah and come over here with
him and come with me and sit down here and.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
Bridge this gapp I.

Speaker 9 (37:51):
Know well his agent should be involved in terms of
papering it and all that kind of stuff. But I'd
love it if you called me up, which we didn't,
and said, listen, I got Mica and I want to
bring him over here and before maybe y'all could not.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Y'all need me a little bit.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Don't trust me.

Speaker 7 (38:09):
I'm trying, okayiment sounds like treating it like family watch.
You go grab your brother, come over here, let's work
this out. Let's go figure this out.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
It feels like a trick. It's insane, man, it is
effing insane. It feels wrong.

Speaker 7 (38:25):
It feels really cool because because it's like he has
this legal it's it's a lot like when I was
telling you that I watched the first forty eight hours
and the detectives try to get the suspect to do
a deal or to tell them everything before their attorney
gets there.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
It kind of feels like that, yeah, come.

Speaker 7 (38:44):
On, and then he did the real like condescending he
can paper the deal with Come on, Michael, go tell
Michael to do what I want?

Speaker 1 (38:53):
So good? All right?

Speaker 10 (38:54):
Coming up next in the Hollywood Shuffle, KT has a
crazy adoption dream and he's ready to share it with
the world. That's next news God, every come.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Stay on the top in.

Speaker 8 (39:11):
Chou thank you well one an intro. Millie Bobby Brown
is the uh star of Stranger Things, which returns as
soon as that clapping stops there just uh Millie Bobby
Brown and you know, let's see Thanksgiving I believe for

(39:33):
a Stranger Thing, and then what Christmas Day Stranger Things,
and then New Year's Eve the final Stranger Things.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Wait, that's how they're rolling it out. Yeah. I didn't
know that, but.

Speaker 8 (39:44):
She got married at the young age of She's twenty
one now, so around that time to John von Jovie's son,
Hey guy is twenty three. Jake Bonjiovi.

Speaker 7 (39:56):
Uh he's an actor, right, what does he do he's
something then wasn't that a fake name or was that
his real name? Bon Jovi is their real name? Okay,
what's his name? Changed his name to bon Jovi for
you know, band purposes in the day.

Speaker 8 (40:10):
So they are a young couple there. But on Instagram
they had a combined post, a shared post. I've seen
you guys. You guys collaborate with your wives a lot
on safe Yeah, we do wive swapping online this summer.
We welcome to our sweet baby girl through adoption. We're
beyond excited to embark on this beautiful next chapter of

(40:30):
parenthood in both peace and privacy. I mean, it would
be more private if you didn't share it online, but
that's something, and we can just let kids make these
foolish mistakes in their early twenties.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
The conundrum of celebrity Kevin, how about them?

Speaker 8 (40:43):
Though they adopted a girl, and I won't talk too
much about their age. My question is, would you rather
have real parents or be adopted by a young celebrity couple.

Speaker 7 (40:55):
Well, okay, this is a fascinating question. I can't even
imagine how your mind and got there. First of all,
I do want to talk about their age because that's
pretty young to be parents.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
It's not the youngest ever.

Speaker 7 (41:07):
People used to go way younger, but twenty one and
twenty three this day and age, that's pretty young, especially
when each parent has a pretty busy career, right, I
would thank I don't know much about him but obviously her.
But I mean, he's from a famous family and he's
got tons of money out he should be playing video
games and hanging out man von Jovi money. He may

(41:27):
be the house dad style thing. I met a guy
who does that, and I'm like, man, I'm so envious
of you. That sounds incredible. His wife was rich, I rolling,
and he got to be a stay at home dad.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
That's just a great life.

Speaker 8 (41:41):
Yeah, This guy, Jake Bonjiov, he's been in two movies
and he's going to be in one that's in post
production right now. So he's done his things, acting and
modeling and stuff.

Speaker 7 (41:50):
And you know, we should also not make an assumption
it's his dad's money, right, but you think that he's
got access Okay, I just looked it up.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
How much do you guys think his.

Speaker 7 (42:02):
Dad is worth five hundred million, five hundred and thirty
seven million according to Forbes, Because he.

Speaker 8 (42:08):
Was dabbling and buying you know, XFL teams and all that.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Yeff.

Speaker 7 (42:12):
Now Millie Bobby Brown is worth sixteen on her own.
So the point being is that at the age they're at,
it's not hard for that. I mean, I'm sure all
celebrity people like that have nannies, team of nannies, yeah right, God,
But if you if you have that many nannies, I mean,
do you I.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Mean, do you really?

Speaker 7 (42:32):
I don't know, Like I would rather be raised by
real parents than a team of nannies. I you know
what I mean, Like, if you're going to be so
busy that you have eight nannies looking, do you really
want me? You know what was super common to back
in the day for not even just wealthy people boarding school, bro,
I mean, there's just because set style and all those
things is not conducive. A lot of those kids were

(42:55):
raised by nannies made in school. But I'm making wild
guesses here. I don't know anything about their specifics or anything.
Maybe they're gonna take off from their career and really
focus on a baby.

Speaker 8 (43:06):
Yeah, I mean you know, yeah, hey, diy, he's accomplished
more than I have. Jake bongiovie, But you said career,
and I'm like, he's just been in two movies and
he's modeling a lot. I don't know people that are
mad at him. I think it's just an interesting question.
If you're that kid who just got adopted, you don't
know anything right now, you just kind of I don't know,
but you get that like eight, that's pretty cool. Yeah,

(43:28):
my parents have always been and stuff and famous, and
you know, I don't know. I just think it's interesting.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Could you pick him out of a lineup?

Speaker 5 (43:36):
No?

Speaker 7 (43:36):
Okay, I'm sending a picture of him to you guys
right now because I looked at it it looked like
it's he's kind of a mix of bon Jovi and
like a Franco. Like the picture I sent to you,
it's almost like an Italian stereotype because he's wearing a
Fonsie jacket and he's got sunglasses. Yeah, well you think, babe,

(43:58):
you want a baby, Let's go get let's go get
a baby.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
Where can we get one? He always wanted a baby,
Let's go buy one.

Speaker 8 (44:05):
Hey, halfway there?

Speaker 1 (44:06):
How do we take care of this? Do you think
he calls her eleven? Hope? Not all right?

Speaker 7 (44:12):
Because she's more than a ten. There you have it,
uh KT's adoption scenario. What would you rather have?

Speaker 1 (44:18):
All right?

Speaker 7 (44:18):
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Speaker 1 (45:12):
But right now it's time for this. Are you excited?

Speaker 9 (45:19):
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Speaker 1 (45:26):
Pretty big day.

Speaker 8 (45:27):
Our Land allies to the East Rally. Okay, over there
in rally, you guys ever going to the Ralet wet zone?

Speaker 10 (45:37):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (45:37):
What that's their water park? Oh they have a wet zone.

Speaker 5 (45:41):
Nah?

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Oh no, milk community.

Speaker 8 (45:44):
Nothing to do with this story though. Uh so, what's
happening right now? And it's very odd that it's happening here,
But DFW is becoming the drone delivery capital of America?

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Is that right?

Speaker 8 (45:55):
If we're known for one thing, it's not our Dallas Cowboys,
it's not the stuff yards, it's not JFK. It's our
drone deliveries.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Did you know this? Ben did not? I didn't either.

Speaker 8 (46:06):
So if you were in if you're within two miles
of one Chipotle restaurant and Rilett and I'm not gonna
tell you which one, you're gonna have to go earn it.
You can do something called Zipotle. What a great names
partnered with the drone delivery company zip Line, which is
the ones we've talked about before. They're doing some deliveries
from Walmart and things like that, and you can get

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your Chipotle order drone delivered to your house if you're
within that two mile radius of that Chipotle, it feels
like it's a little easier just to you know, drive there,
you maybe get some exercise, just walk over.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
There is this necessary?

Speaker 8 (46:42):
No, no, no, nothing's necessary anymore.

Speaker 7 (46:45):
It's all weird, But the convenience of like door dash
is pretty magical. Like we're our family spends way too
much money on it. Our kids are like addicted to it,
and we created those monsters. We should never have allowed it.
But you know, it's just the convenience of it. You
don't even have to get up and leave. And if
you're telling me you saving the planet, bro, if a

(47:07):
drone can do it, what I mean, I don't care.
Just let me know what it's on in the front yard,
right yeah, you know, here's what the Zipline CEO said.
His name is Keller Ronaldo Clifton. That's an interesting name.

Speaker 8 (47:21):
Shouldn't take a four thousand pound car to deliver a
two pound burrito? And I was like, Jesus, so this
brito is really two pounds. They're serving two pounds. My god,
that's what I thought.

Speaker 7 (47:30):
It's like, there's no way that's a two pound Burrito
Taco Town.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
So it is two.

Speaker 7 (47:35):
Pounds, so that means it's a one and a half
pound dump, right, I mean for you, I don't know
what it would be. So I don't know if there
there's your story there Chipotle, Zipotle.

Speaker 8 (47:49):
I understand from a saving the climate perspective, Oh I
do get that, But why wouldn't we just scale ground
transportation in this town? Car culture's wild. Talk to someone
from Toronto the other day, Yeah, the night, good talk
with him in town for the weekend.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Did you guys run a car?

Speaker 6 (48:04):
Nick?

Speaker 8 (48:05):
Yeah, we always run a car when we come here.
This guy comes here for business a lot. They're in
the unequestrian business. Very strange. Ran into him as a
stand up comedy show. But you had a little time
to talk and I was like, well, what do you
guys think about it? Because I was like, we went
to Toronto, we had Toronto, think Canadian Thanksgiving is wonderful.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Chasing about poutine. I asked him a little bit about poutine.

Speaker 8 (48:23):
Actually, yeah, we did talk about that, but he was like, yeah,
we come here, but we never really know where to
go because it's so big, and we always run a
car because we have to drive and you know, if
you're at the airport, it's a twenty minute drive to Dallas.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Anyways. I was like yeah.

Speaker 8 (48:37):
I was like, you know, have you gone to vtured
up to four Worth. He's like, we think about it,
but it's kind of too far.

Speaker 13 (48:42):
You know.

Speaker 8 (48:42):
I got to work during the day, so we usually
just try to find something to do in the neighborhood
that we're in where our hotel is. And I was like, man,
that kind of sucks. And that's the whole thing that
people have talked about with this town. If you're here
for a long time, you know where to go. If
you're here for a weekend, you're kind of confused because
it's huge.

Speaker 7 (49:00):
Yeah, and if you're going wherever your hotel is the
best places to be have the most insanely expensive hotels.

Speaker 8 (49:07):
They were asking us, you know, food recommendations and all
that kind of stuff. But she is a vegan, she says,
And I said, well, okay, but do you eat fish?
And she's like, yeah, a vegan. So that was confused
on that.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Are you a vegan if you eat fish? No?

Speaker 7 (49:25):
Fish is meat, right, yes, yes, you can say I'm
a pescatarian, but vegan is like, no, milk and vegan
is like the militant vegetarian. But she may have known that.
She just didn't want to talk to you. You may
have been like, yeah, buddy, that's what it is. Were
you kind of whipping her ass talking about the packers
and stuff?

Speaker 1 (49:45):
No, not too much.

Speaker 8 (49:45):
But it's like a Dallas comedy club and they you
buy your two tickets and they sit you out of
a table. But there's two other seats at that, you know,
round table. So oh my god, you got to kill
time for ten minutes. But they were friendly. He bought
me a drink and put it on the company card.
Oh a good time. Hey, Dallas comedy clubs, good times.
Y'all should go hang out there sometimes. Okay, you said
they were swingers and that's why, hope. So okay, So

(50:08):
how is he going to be jokes to? How is
he going to explain that on the expense report? I
want to know what business he's doing with Kevin Turner
of iHeart Kevin Turner, Dana Dallas.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
All right, there it is the weekly Weekday Update.

Speaker 7 (50:23):
Coming up next, it's cussing the Cowboys, America's team, The
Gambler and His Cowboys, The new Netflix docu series. We
take a deep dive into episode four. We look at
it next.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Cowboy Surprise.

Speaker 8 (50:51):
Dannit Episode four America's team, the Gambler and his Cowboys
starts off a super Bowl twenty seven and it's a
Cowboys and Bills and it's halftime, and I thought this
was pretty funny.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
I mean, at half.

Speaker 13 (51:04):
Time to sneak out, betee, Michael Jackson, smoke came out.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
And he stood there like to do something.

Speaker 8 (51:17):
He was like, bro, do some stuff, man, I get
back in there. Jimmy's gonna yell at me.

Speaker 7 (51:22):
So I think that's probably the advent time shows being crazy.
I think before going before Michael Jackson, they used to
do stuff where it was like, you know, a bunch
of kid choirs out there and hands across America and.

Speaker 8 (51:37):
All that crime Grambling band got a lot of halftime Yeah.

Speaker 7 (51:41):
I think when Michael Jackson did that, that's the beginning
of it being a spectacle. So and I you know,
when we did the first few episodes, I was just
watching one episode at a time, but I couldn't wait.
I finished the whole thing now, and so wow, I'm
going back. I'm trying to think about where we are here.
So is this after the first super Bowl? This is
the second one, the first one, the very first one. Yeah, okay,

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we're not to the second one yet. So this is
after the first super Bowl. Jerry and Jimmy at the podium.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
There were so.

Speaker 6 (52:07):
Many moves and turning points, which a pitpoint one.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
As the most.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Important point in the history of this franchise under your direction.

Speaker 9 (52:15):
Yes, it's pretty easy, the very first one when I
hired Jimmy Johnson to be the coach.

Speaker 8 (52:19):
Yeah, the biggest decision ever is the decision I made.
I mean, there is already and we learn through this
episode that tension had already been building behind the scenes.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
But there they are.

Speaker 8 (52:29):
Happiest moment on the podium, just won the super Bowl.
What's the biggest moment? It's the one I It's my decision.
And even though the decision is a compliment to Jimmy Johnson,
Jimmy Johnson did not see it as that.

Speaker 7 (52:43):
I don't know if this is because of Jerry and Jimmy.
And it really happens later when Barry Switzer wins the
Super Bowl, and I don't think Jerry lets him look
at it. But whenever there's a whenever there's a podium situation,
I'm always very attuned to watching the people and how
they react with that trophy and who they give it to.

(53:04):
I watch it all the time. I can't take my
eyes off It's amazing. When Oklahoma City thunder one there,
I was watching Sam Presty because of the way he
carries himself and all that, and you know, they all
got involved, but it was very much their whole attitude
was no, you take it, No, you take it, No,
you take it.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
This is that's my trophy, you know.

Speaker 10 (53:24):
I mean it's it's like little elementary school kids and
they can't take their eye off it, and they reach
for it even though they know they shouldn't be. Yeah,
I thank you for complimenting me. And my hands on it.
Oh my god, I gotta grab it. I love you, man,
You're the reason we got to give that back to me.
Don't touch me while I touched that tro fight.

Speaker 8 (53:43):
This is uh Emtt's hold out. We go to training camp.
Fast forward, training camp nineteen ninety three, the Super Bowl champions.
Everyone's there.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
Contract dispute with Jerry Jones is why it's been four
weeks of no Emmitt Smith where.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
That's to call it Jerry Joneses in Dallas, and then
you want to stay up.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Yeah, given us work.

Speaker 14 (54:01):
To stank out, we're willing to corporate with you if
you will incorporate.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
With quant four years and sevens some thousand dollars.

Speaker 10 (54:08):
Cowboys are off ring four years nine point one million,
So that's an eight million dollar gap that seems likely
to keep Smith admire.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Contract negotiations are full of ambiguity.

Speaker 8 (54:20):
I feel completely disrespected.

Speaker 9 (54:23):
But I have a very high tolerance for ambiguity. Is
I can go longer than most and not have the answer.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
And it was insulted, and you know, the tension started
to build.

Speaker 9 (54:33):
He wanted quarterback money and I just didn't have the
money to pay that because we hadn't turned the corner
financially during those times. It's going to get paid millions
of dollars, but maybe not as many midion as he
would like to have.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Come on, now, what are we talking about? You getting
Jersey sales out in the yam with me?

Speaker 4 (54:52):
Greg?

Speaker 10 (54:52):
Any sign yet of im it?

Speaker 4 (54:53):
No?

Speaker 1 (54:54):
No sign of it? Where is em it? And it's
is a distinction, guys.

Speaker 9 (55:00):
I don't think it hard and everybody because every question
ask about him about it. I think we're all a
little bit tired of talking about the mt situation.

Speaker 8 (55:10):
That's the year before this NFL salary cap. Yeah, it
took place.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
So I was.

Speaker 7 (55:14):
Sitting here, uh and and I don't know if they
get into it later. I've only watched the first five
episodes so far. But Jerry was the guy ram rotting
the cap because he figured that gave the Cowboys an
advantage in a finite system. So it's so wild to
sit here and talk about Jerry wanted Emmett's entire contract

(55:35):
to be the value of one year of nause Marshall. Yeah,
I have times changed. I was thinking about that too,
like any of these contracts, like later with Dion, just
like they're tiny, they're minuscule deals. Dak's getting sixty a year, Okay,
but what year was this? This was atterine, So this
was following his third year in the league. So it's
going into his fourth year, all right. So he was
coming off Emmett was coming off oney seven hundred and

(55:58):
thirteen yards and eighteen touchdowns. Yeah, rushing, he was back
to back rushing title, get the year in two rushing titles. Yeah,
and dude, he would go. I mean just I mean,
obviously he's the all time leading rusher, but I mean
if you look at some of those following years. I mean,
obviously next year he missed those couple games, but I
mean after that, ninety four, you know, he had fourteen

(56:19):
hundred and eighty four yards twenty one touchdowns, ninety five
seventeen seventy three yards twenty five touchdowns. Like he was
on one of the greatest runs for a running back ever.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
I mean, he is the greatest running back ever. Thought
he was under contract.

Speaker 8 (56:32):
And this is coming up next the parallels, because if
my kid doesn't play once we get going in about
ten days from now or thirteen days from now. What
happened when Emmett didn't play the first two games in
nineteen ninety three. That's next on ninety seven to one
The Ben and Skin Show, ninety seven point one The Eagle.
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four and we're picking up with the Emmett out for Super.

Speaker 8 (57:17):
Bowl, so the season's got to start and him it's
not under contract. Here's how it went, Derek.

Speaker 9 (57:22):
Lafter timpany flop through and they'd like the flock ticket
if we missed that too.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Cowboys and the Cowboys are all online.

Speaker 9 (57:29):
Excise me, what's what done for those two weeks they
let the negotiators and and and the owners talking about
as man, I want to talk about my foot.

Speaker 15 (57:36):
Home differences, classic break hand of the play I know
the first time.

Speaker 8 (57:40):
But they come up and it's picked up by Tanny Williams.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
A buffalong Cowboys dropping team oh and two.

Speaker 4 (57:45):
You know, we're fighting a lot of things right now.
We're fighting more than just the game.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
And uh, I thought our guys, oh boy.

Speaker 5 (57:59):
You know, it justroled me absolutely damn crazy.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
I hadn't beaten everybody to the dressing room.

Speaker 9 (58:07):
And Charles comes in and he says, we've got the
greatest running back in the world and we're sitting here
playing with a rookie.

Speaker 5 (58:15):
My anger turned into rage, and when that happened, I
threw the helmet.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
And the helmet sticks in the sheet, rocks right beside
where I'm standing.

Speaker 9 (58:25):
As he comes in the room, Charles, let's please don't
do something that both of us can't get over here.

Speaker 5 (58:30):
The helmet almost hit Jerry, so I almost got cut,
but Jerry signed him it the next week.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
Man, this is a legendary story and there's so much
of it.

Speaker 11 (58:43):
I love.

Speaker 7 (58:45):
Why did Jerry have to make up that it stuck
in the wall. It did not stick in the wall.

Speaker 8 (58:49):
Why not?

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Though I know it's a great story.

Speaker 7 (58:52):
That his head almost got smashed by a helmet, But
all I could think about was, can you imagine being
Lassic in that room As Charles Haley is yelling, we've
got the best running back in the world and we're
stuck with a rookie, and then he throws his helmet,
Think about what that kid is thinking on.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
The opposite side of the room. Had a chance.

Speaker 7 (59:11):
If you were to put this in a movie about
pro sports, you would say this is unrealistic. Yeah, that
no one would ever do that come on, dude, this
is too far.

Speaker 8 (59:19):
And they probably to leave out a bunch of stuff
that would even be better movie. Also, Jimmy Johnson, legendary coach,
probably composed all the time.

Speaker 12 (59:28):
And here he is at the podium. Guys, Oh boy,
he was not at the podium. He walked off. That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
He was so beaten down.

Speaker 7 (59:42):
He didn't even give the generic my guys played hard.
He was like, ah, these guys did play hard.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
F one. I can't deal with this.

Speaker 8 (59:49):
So It returns gets signed, and then the Cowboys become
the biggest thing since Slash Spread.

Speaker 9 (59:55):
Once we got him It back from the field certainly
started winning rooms on that the power and the iimmage
of the Dallas Cowboys and vers everywhere you can turn
on the TV and then see them on commercials.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
You got to run to McDonald's.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
I'm doing brand deal. You make a wish TV shows.

Speaker 8 (01:00:15):
I learned about you ye movies.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
I had all the bad girls in the world.

Speaker 5 (01:00:19):
Have all the country move music, oh Red, come.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
All of it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
No, women must just go batty.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
That's where the value is.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Carrie Hill has just sound the winning formula on an
offal to become the more slid a forty franchise in.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
The world, so I want to make sure that it's
a so far for year around here.

Speaker 8 (01:00:39):
I didn't think the music was a little too loud
during all that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
I love seeing that.

Speaker 7 (01:00:45):
I love the score. Is that are they are they
tying music of the time to it? Was that at
the same time, that's around the same time. I don't
know if it's the exact right yere, but that's that's
Sammy hagar van Dulin right here right now. I agree
with you at times you're like, damn, that is loud.
But man, I love the production value behind this. Man,
it is really well done.

Speaker 8 (01:01:03):
And just seeing all those clips from those old TV
shows and Married with Children and Coach and all that stuff.
I mean, there's a Coach episode where the wife of
the coach wanted to get Troy Aikman's DNA always got frozen.
Like yeah, it's pretty crazy. This is where Jerry and
Jimmy in the feud kind of begins, the kind of

(01:01:24):
go back in time and discuss when it all started
the feud.

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
Jacksonville had a new franchise, did call me?

Speaker 15 (01:01:30):
Is Jimmy Johnson gonna stay with the Cowboys to tack
for the next five years.

Speaker 9 (01:01:34):
I've always tried to do things that were fun, that
I enjoyed. After the first Super Bowl, things changed, and
then Jerry and I, you know, we started, you know,
hollering about who got created for what.

Speaker 10 (01:01:48):
The controversial book The Boys is hot reading in Big
d Bilis says that on two or three occasions last season,
Johnson came close to quitting.

Speaker 9 (01:01:57):
When we first went to the Cowboys, he was a businessman.
I was the football guy. But he wants to be
the guy on everything.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Jimmy has to be the guy.

Speaker 15 (01:02:09):
If he does something, he wants that recognition that's important
to him.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
My understanding was Jimmy and I we were in this
thing together. We together.

Speaker 7 (01:02:23):
It's so good the way that they're laying it out,
and you know, I mean, obviously Jerry's going to have
final say on the way this is presented. But I
think it, you know, around here, it's always been on
Jerry screwed this up. I mean, I think they're doing
a good job of showing man, Jimmy was an ass
and Jimmy's complicit in this just as much as Jerry is.

(01:02:43):
And I do believe that if Jimmy was willing to
give Jerry a little bit of credit, but man, Jimmy
was headed down this path regardless. Yeah, yeah, I agreed,
and they do further explore that path. All right, coming
up next, let's keep this going. This is all fantastic.
Don't go anywhere. We continue breaking down America's team, The
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Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
We're looking at episode four and with more on that,
here's k T.

Speaker 8 (01:03:39):
Yeah. So really, you know, they get into that big
Super Bowl win and into the ninety three season, Emmett
holds out. They lose the first two games, but then
it becomes a bit of a redemption story. The Cowboys
get huge during that time, and I couldn't help but
think to nineteen ninety three. The NFL was busting, and
they're gonna get into it as we move forward, the
TV deals and all that stuff. But when you think

(01:04:00):
about all of that stuff that was going on, they
really then in the back half of episode four, really
lock in on the Jimmy and Jerry feud.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
So I love this so much.

Speaker 8 (01:04:12):
Randy Galloway used to do a show on WBAP and
there's a lot of calls on that show. And you
guys obviously worked with Randy for many years at ESPN.
He is a good friend of yours.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:04:24):
But Jimmy, he's listening to the radio and decides to
call Randy Galloway and we have that footage.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
Randy Galloway and WBAP the.

Speaker 4 (01:04:33):
Day before the game.

Speaker 9 (01:04:34):
I was listening to the radio. You know, they're talking
about who's gonna win the game. I said, well, no
big deal. At the rights house of this, we don't
win the ball you.

Speaker 16 (01:04:45):
Can put it and we can't beadline. We'll win in
the battle game.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
We all thought, what in the hell did he just do?
You guys? Ohs okay, let's.

Speaker 4 (01:04:58):
Go back them up.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
And we're going to the Super Bowls.

Speaker 8 (01:05:04):
I'm imagining Troy watching film and Jimmy being at his
house and that chair looking at that aquarium.

Speaker 7 (01:05:12):
Manyks did, y'all see Clarence Hill said they reached out
to Galloway and he didn't want to be a part
of it. I did see that tweet. Yeah, I wonder
what that. I wonder why he's just like, oh whatever,
he might be just so beyond it. Yeah, you know,
ever man, love love, love Randy. Anytime I hear Troy
in this whole thing, I just feel sorry for him.

(01:05:33):
Like they wasted so I mean, obviously he did win
three Super Bowls, but they wasted so much of his
of what he could have even done more than that,
you know, and they blew it with all this BS.
They were constantly dealing this nonsense. If you look at
the what happened with the San Francisco forty nine ers
and the amount of time they stayed dominant, that's because

(01:05:55):
they had and I'm not doing like a hole Jerry
the GM. Yeah, but it does go to show you
that he did I didn't know what he was doing,
and they didn't have football people in place because they
had the ability to extend that another four or five years,
but they made so many bad decisions.

Speaker 10 (01:06:08):
Just compare it to the forty nine ers. The forty
nine ers, I mean, that's a thing that last fifteen years.
I was glad they left that in there.

Speaker 8 (01:06:16):
Carmen Policy talking about our value is in Super Bowl trophies,
and like, I mean, it's a direct shot at Jerry,
which I'll say. I'm listening to some friends talk about
this and just I've talked to a few people about this,
and a lot of people they are like cowboys fans
who are just frustrated right now, and I think they
kind of don't want to hear it, and they're like,

(01:06:36):
it's just you know, it's a big lap dance for Jerry,
and I'm like, man, I think Jerry looks.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
Horrible in the first four episodes, right.

Speaker 8 (01:06:44):
I haven't got the five through eight yet, but in
the first four, I think Jerry looks bad.

Speaker 7 (01:06:47):
And a lot of this I hear what you're saying,
and I have seen a lot of that. Two people
call it a puff piece. That guy who wrote the
book of the most scathing book about it, you know
that guy, pearl Yeah, Pearlman called it an h job
for Jerry.

Speaker 8 (01:06:59):
It might.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
And I'm like, I get it. Some people feel that way.

Speaker 7 (01:07:04):
And it ultimately, as you pointed out earlier, again, Jerry
had the final say and what airs or what doesn't air?
But I thought it was I mean, he doesn't look
great and a lot of it I think now they
did skip over some of stuff like the black light
in the in the cow, you know, any of the discretions,
the maritally or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Then I mean, but they didn't get into every single
thing too. But it's not. It's not a straight fluff piece.

Speaker 7 (01:07:28):
No, And I think the main reason for that is, though,
is the story is such that you can't you can't
do pure propaganda because that would be unwatchable. But it
is like even the way this episode is positioned with
Jimmy versus Jerry and how that unfolded, ultimately Jerry gets
the final say. But again, you can't tell anything close

(01:07:49):
to the real story without Jerry taking his lumps.

Speaker 8 (01:07:52):
Yeah, for sure, let's do one more here. This is
the feud continuing on.

Speaker 11 (01:07:55):
By the time we got to the Super Bowl, it
became apparent that there was some tension between the two
of them.

Speaker 14 (01:08:02):
You know, I guess because we did not dispel the myth.
Everybody thought that we were the best of friends. Socially,
our lifestyles are completely different, you know.

Speaker 9 (01:08:14):
Some of our early problems started in the ninety two season.
He said, there's going to be a camera in the
draft room. ESPN called and said, would you guys let
us put cameras in the draft room. Got thought somebody
might enjoy seeing every aspect of this thing. And he said,
you know, when you're making a trader, when you're doing something,
you'll reach over and talk to me until we can

(01:08:35):
go over because the camera's going to be honest. Now,
that just didn't happen. There was no acting in the
draft room. I was involved at every.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
Decision that was made.

Speaker 4 (01:08:45):
It just kind of hit me wrong. I wasn't in
this thing for show.

Speaker 9 (01:08:49):
During that ninety three season, when I found out Jimmy
was flirting with Jacksonville, not only did that violate league rules,
but I also thought that Jimmy was not loyal and
I couldn't handle it this whole team.

Speaker 7 (01:09:03):
Dude, there's there's let's go, I want to hit a
couple things very quick. There's a couple of things there.
To me, that's a great example of it showing both
guys being bad, right. It shows their ego smashing in
each other because one Jerry gets to position is, hey,
that's not true when everybody knows it's true. It's been
talked about for decades. Okay, But number two, that whole

(01:09:26):
Jimmy saying I wasn't doing it for show. They just
showed us a montage of four commercials he was in. Yeah, yeah,
and he called in to Galloway right and put on
a show. They're all full of it. Their egos gigantic,
and that's what that's what makes it so interesting. But dude,
Jerry was absolutely putting on a show. He started the
entire series off by saying he was putting on a show, right, and.

Speaker 10 (01:09:47):
He was great with that part of it. He's a
great owner. Yeah, he's a terrible GM, but he is
a great owner in terms of I don't know, thinking
of new innovative ideas to make revenue for his team
and for the League, and yes, get show the Draft.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
Of course, that's fantastic. Show the Draft.

Speaker 7 (01:10:04):
That's a great idea, right where it gets to, hey man,
act like I'm really doing something over here, right?

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
And is it very bad?

Speaker 10 (01:10:11):
I mean, were those sunglasses? Jerry was wearing some crazy
glass who were those? Let me just say episode when
we come back. Yeah, I could not believe that.

Speaker 8 (01:10:21):
Before Super Bowl twenty eight, Jerry and Jimmy did a
combined interview with Bob Costas about their feud.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
Oh my god, we'll get that next.

Speaker 7 (01:10:29):
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Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
It is big.

Speaker 8 (01:10:53):
Episode four of America's Team, the Game War and His Cowboys.
So we're before Super Bowl twenty eight, nineteen ninety three,
The true, I guess might have sipped into the calendar
year nineteen ninety four and the super Bowl's on NBC,
and obviously there is It's already out there the public
and in the media that Jerry and Jimmy aren't quite
getting along very well. So Bob Costas, one of the

(01:11:15):
world's best interviewers at the time, can sit down with
Jerry and Jimmy before the Super Bowl, and I think
this aired like on the Super.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
Bowl pregame did absolutely, this is unbelievable to me.

Speaker 9 (01:11:25):
Well, victory has one thousand fathers and defeat is an
orphan and at times you have selective amnesia. They've always
had a little debate as to just exactly who and
where the idea of Traydon herschel Walker was.

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
I hated it when he miss interpret the facts.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
Jimmy and Jerry have been a bit of a side
show here in at Latta.

Speaker 10 (01:11:48):
This week, our Bob Costas was able to sit down
with both of them together.

Speaker 9 (01:11:52):
Jerry, you told Frank to Ford, I'll tell you what
I can coach the blank out of this team.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Jimmy, do you respect his football?

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (01:12:01):
I respect Jerry's football knowledge as an owner and as
somebody that loves the game.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Would you don't respect him as an equal that I'm
inferring to you in terms of football knowledge and judgment.

Speaker 16 (01:12:12):
You know, I know because I have spent thirty years
you know, learning what I know. Right now, Hey, I
feel good when I'm around Jimmy.

Speaker 9 (01:12:21):
One of the reasons I feel good is because I
got a lot of confidence in him.

Speaker 16 (01:12:25):
If Jimmy in any way was so offensive to me
that I couldn't live with it, then we'd make changes.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
And occasionally I do get offensive. If I didn't know better,
I would think one of those guys is lying. But
since I know better, I know both of them are lying.
I did get parted. Incredible. Wasn't that good?

Speaker 7 (01:12:45):
Yes, it's super tense, and you can see it all
coming together, Jimmy saying he misinterprets things and selective anesia
and all that stuff. If it was just a straight
puff piece, that wouldn't be in here right, like it's
in holes in the side of Jerry's battleship along the
way to and and what is Jimmy supposed to say?

(01:13:06):
Of course, he doesn't look at him as an equal.
This guy who's been an oil man and you know,
sold catalog shoes while he was coaching. He's dedicated his
life to being a football coach and has won a
national championship, right, he doesn't need of course, he's not
an equal with the guy who hired him because he's
an expert.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:13:23):
And it's really funny too that Jerry throws out the
little implication there of well, if he's offending me, I'm
going to fire him, which he's already thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
Yes, he's already.

Speaker 7 (01:13:34):
He's just putting that out there so everybody knows when
it gets to be too much, I will fire him.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
And he's telling him, yes, yes, yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:13:40):
And I'm like, there's some great stories in this episode
that I left out. Emmett getting hurt and playing on
the shoulder. Yeah, okay, it's his it's his signature game,
like going to all that, and I'm sitting there going, man,
we're not gonna have that because it's getting overshadowed of
all this juicy Jerry Jimmy stuff, which.

Speaker 7 (01:13:56):
Is a real, you know, way to look at all
of this. That's why I talk about them wasting so
much of Troy's career. All these guys, they it was waste.
I mean, yes, they got three super Bowls, but what
else could they have done if they didn't have the
circus at all times. Do you know why they sat
down and did that puff or that not puff piece,
but did that piece with Bob Costas because they weren't concerned.

(01:14:18):
They knew they were going to obliterate the Bills. Yeah,
like you know, you think, but keep in mind I
could be wrong about this, but back then it was
still one week.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
Oh, it was one week.

Speaker 7 (01:14:27):
And that's why Troy played bad because he had a concussion.

Speaker 8 (01:14:29):
Yh promol.

Speaker 7 (01:14:30):
So after you didn't have the whole two week build up.
This was also, by the way, this was the week
that the ticket launched. Yeah, me and Ben were working
at business cards tomorrow and listening to Donovan Miller walking
the streets of Atlanta asking people if they thought the
name Mookie Blaylock was funny. That was on the radio
this very first week, and it was think about that,

(01:14:51):
think about how hard charging and hard driving Jimmy was.
And fast forward they've already got one super Bowl in
and they're so confident they're just going to roll. Yeah,
let's just sit down and do this uncomfortable interview with
Bob Costas instead of prepping for the game.

Speaker 8 (01:15:04):
It's also the final season before the NFL launched NFL
Sunday Ticket, like when that took over. In the NFL's
big TV deals with Fox and CBS came through, So
there's a lot of stuff happening where it was just
like on the cusp of really blowing up. I have
two more clips to play. Okay, here's one more.

Speaker 4 (01:15:20):
This is possi Global call shot.

Speaker 8 (01:15:22):
This is after the Super Bowl win.

Speaker 4 (01:15:23):
This is Possiblbo call shot. A man has rules, giving
everything and that you could do out.

Speaker 9 (01:15:30):
I thought of Mount generally and his spit and his
effort is it's likely been the way these players plays.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
I bet everybody's kind of gotten a kick out of.

Speaker 14 (01:15:38):
Emmy and Jerry and thinking that we were at each
other throw cup.

Speaker 4 (01:15:42):
When you win these kind of things, the only thing you're.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
Gonna do at each other's throw to tucket.

Speaker 9 (01:15:46):
We had had enormous success, two Super moves back to back.
But I'm more just a fund when it's a bad
time and a challenge intent than I am one way
of getting pats on the back all top some world
and the frimous thing's going good and he's just won
the Gold Cup, and I'm liable to break.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
The damn thay.

Speaker 8 (01:16:09):
I thought, that's just a guy going. I can be
the good guy, but also it can be the bad
guy at anytime.

Speaker 7 (01:16:14):
And then I can I say something please, because I
really do think and part of it is based on
like what Steven was saying, and then just the way
that Jerry acted immediately after the Super Bowl. I really
think at that point in time, Jerry thought, Jimmy will
come to his senses, give me the credit I deserve,
and we'll work through this. And the whole time, Jimmy's

(01:16:35):
just thinking, man, I'm the king of the world. Everyone
get out of my way. Let's see what happens for
me next. Yeah, And I think Jerry looks at it
like pro wrestling, Like He's like, let's hype this up,
and let's let's be entertaining and let's sell tickets and
let's be a soap opera and all those things.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
And Jimmy was like, no, I don't I don't want
to do that. Just go over there and do a
deal with Nike.

Speaker 7 (01:16:57):
That's great, but I'm football, football, football, and I need
all the credit for everything that happens in football. And
Jerry's like, yeah, but this character I've created for this
wrestling thing. He needs to kind of be involved in
the football stuff too, and I think that that's at
the crux of this thing, do you know what. I
might have read too much into this, but I did
think it was interesting the commercial where they're all in

(01:17:18):
the car together and Jerry's left.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
In the dust. Yeah, I mean I thought that that
was like really telling and really interesting. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:17:25):
I mean, I don't think Jerry's like, oh, yeah, that's
a great idea, let's do that. It's like it happened.
And then again, it might be just connecting the dots
after the fact, but that is what is happening. And
he wants to be on the same platform with Troy
and Jimmy and Michael, and he thinks he deserves to
and maybe he does because he made it all happen
with his business.

Speaker 8 (01:17:44):
When you do a series like this, it's got eight episodes,
you have to have good cliffhangers, And I thought this
was maybe one of the greatest teases to the next
episode that I've ever seen. This is the end of
episode four, and tell you what's about to happen. In
episode five, We're covering the NFL owners meetings. Like this
is ed werder and you're gonna hear Rick goslindals.

Speaker 4 (01:18:03):
Yeah, we're covering the NFL Owners meetings in Orlando.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
It's just a party coaches, general, managers, owners, their want.

Speaker 9 (01:18:11):
We're sitting there and Jerry came over and obviously it
had something to drink. We both had something to drink
the night. As I remember it, it was a glancing
by chance meeting. I raised my glass that I was
walking with and said, here's to our Super Bowl win.

Speaker 15 (01:18:28):
So I grabbed my drink and everybody grabs her drink
and we start putting it up to toast Jerry and
we look and Jimmy's sitting there basically with his arms
folder and there's no toast.

Speaker 9 (01:18:41):
One of the advantages of knowing someone is you often
can communicate with nothing but eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
No word has to come out. But you're talking to me, baby,
we're talking.

Speaker 4 (01:18:55):
But we decided the nights over time to leave.

Speaker 14 (01:18:57):
And as we're walking past Jerry's table, Jery grabs a
fistful of my pants leg and he says, don't leave now,
And I said why not?

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
And he said, you'll miss the story of the year.
And I said, what's the story here?

Speaker 9 (01:19:09):
And he said I'm gonna fire that mother, Jubby Johnson,
that disloyal son.

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
Of a bitch. Now episode far so good. Yeah, and
you said eight, there's ten.

Speaker 8 (01:19:25):
There's ten.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
There's ten episodes that.

Speaker 7 (01:19:29):
It's so unbelievably good.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
It's so good I can't remember.

Speaker 7 (01:19:37):
I mean, look these like I was saying the other
day about the bulls thing, like, I don't know in
our lifetime has there been a big docu series made
about any of our stuff, you know that has been
local and from our world that we experienced in our life.
We've just never had There's never been a story this good.
I mean, I would love it if you know. The

(01:19:58):
whole JD Nolan Ryan thing came to be the problem
with that is those guys didn't get the job done. Yeah,
you know, if they had actually won the World series,
it's a different story, right right, And I don't know
that those guys will be interested in participating in something
like this.

Speaker 4 (01:20:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:20:13):
JD has always taking the high road like not wanted
to do, and then on once it was over, Nolan
went straight high road, right, Yeah, I mean, no one's
voice would sound so crazy. Yeah, all right, well, it's
incredible stuff. We will do the final episodes next week.
I hope everyone has an incredible weekend stick around. We
have music coming your way right here on ninety seven

(01:20:34):
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