Full Show: August 26, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (00:36):
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Speaker 1 (00:42):
My other boy Skin and Skin talking on the radio.
It's time to do this FALSI in.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
All it we go.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Katie just stinging up it.

Speaker 5 (00:59):
All up on my.

Speaker 6 (01:01):
Ah.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yes. Love to welcome everybody.

Speaker 7 (01:02):
It's the world famous Ben and Skin Show ninety seven
point one the Eagle.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Thank you for tuning in.

Speaker 7 (01:07):
Ben Rogers, Jef Skin Wade, Kevin KT Turner and Christina Carrie,
a little baby Cornbread Ray all hands on deck. Excited
to be here today. It's going to be a fun show.
Lots to get into, so I'm gonna get right into it.
Last night was Kat's big SNL draft it's where you
have to draft. If you know, you get to pick

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a celebrity that you think is gonna host, or you
could pick a band that you think would be the
musical guest. And if you have the ultimate that's somebody
who can do it all, then it's extra points, right.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, if they're double dipping, you know, host and musical
guest rarely happens. He's like twice a year. It happens,
you get two points. It's pretty. It's a pretty that's
the bargain. A lot of people just guess music. I
guess because they can. Maybe they'll get a chance to
get a Billie Eilish or someone who will do both
Ariana Grande. But you know, as I told Christina early,
you can't predict any of this. They make their mind

(02:03):
late in the game.

Speaker 7 (02:04):
Who who who is based on like whoever's popping, if
it's musical or whatever, they're in the news, or they
got to something.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
The prof The league happens January through May. I mean,
we're not thinking that far ahead most of the time,
are we.

Speaker 7 (02:18):
So anyways, it's a really cool concept. And Skin and
I have never been invited until this year, and we
gave Kat a lot of grief about it, which especially
when I found out some of the other folks that
were in the league.

Speaker 8 (02:31):
It's like he posted something on Craigslist. Hey, I need
more people.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
For this league. Oh dude, like that at all. Well,
he just wants a little escape, mostly from U. Skin.

Speaker 7 (02:41):
He just doesn't want to be audited by you, and
this is his chance to get away and do something
fun in his world without having to see us.

Speaker 8 (02:48):
Wait till we do the segment at three point thirty
four where he talks about the league. Because I've got
some auditing questions since I was involved, but I wasn't there, right, so, God,
I have some questions about all this.

Speaker 7 (03:02):
So I wasn't here. We were coming up to the
draft and we will talk about it a bit later.
And suddenly I had a conflict. My friends that I
live with in my neighborhood in light Farms invited me
to go to the Ranger game with him, and I
haven't seen him in a while, and I'm like, man,
I really.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Need to do this. I'm kind of a lame friend.
I need to go show up and do this and
I have.

Speaker 7 (03:23):
For whatever reason, I had KT's SNL draft on Wednesday, night,
so I had it on the wrong day on my calendar,
so I basically had to call KT and tell him
that I couldn't make it. Now he first offered to
let me do what you were doing, because you also
couldn't make it. He did make a spot for each
of us.

Speaker 8 (03:39):
In the last year there was really disappointing, the classic
hold on, hold on, hold on, if we're going to
pull back a curtain. There is a text chain I
believe it was an email that said, Hey, what days
can you guys do the draft? And I said, immediately,
I can't do it on that night. I realize everybody
else can do it, could do it on Wednesday, but

(04:01):
if you need to go ahead and do it, do
it without me.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Did that happen or did that not happen? It's exactly
what happened. Okay, yeah, so I uh so Skin could
make it and now I could make it. And KT
was so nice.

Speaker 7 (04:12):
He was like, hey, you can have somebody come vote,
you know, take your draft for you, like, have someone
do it as a guest drafter.

Speaker 8 (04:20):
They get your list and you know they're turning in
the card for you and for me. You offered for
me to give you my list. I'm like, am I
giving you my list? I had not asked you did,
and then that's why you hooked me up with cray Tray.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, cra Trade did this last year for us because
well as well know, getting ten adults together at one time.

Speaker 8 (04:41):
During fantasy football season for an hour is so tough.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
It never works. It's impossible to get everyone there. Uh
So I think TC our front TC. He had a
gig last year, So cra Trade did his duty and
you know, took TC's list and did the drafting. Might
have messed up a few names, but it's fine.

Speaker 8 (05:00):
Right, we'll get into this because I have some questions
about what he did with my team.

Speaker 7 (05:04):
I was convinced that Skin was going to try to
ruin your draft for you, because he's done that like
in fantasy sports, like just to.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
It for some of the reason you weren't last year,
just doing a bit.

Speaker 8 (05:13):
So are you saying because when we did it on air,
my first pick was Bob Seger.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Bob Seger Mike Campbell was he was going to sabotage
something you'd love.

Speaker 7 (05:23):
I knew that was coming and so it was gonna
be hard for me to also do it, which I
also wanted to do, but I you know, I couldn't
do it. I couldn't be there, and so I am
curious to see how it went with Craig Tray trying
to execute a strange skin game plan.

Speaker 8 (05:37):
So I do. I can't wait to hear how that goes.
There will be some auditing as part of that. I
asked you serious questions.

Speaker 7 (05:43):
So instead I went to the Ranger game and I
realized I had not been back to a Ranger game
since the Cory Seger home run. I think it was
Game one of the World Series, like ninth inning home run, right,
I had not been back since then.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
And I don't know why. And then it's just so far.
It's so far for you, definitely, Yeah, yes, that's like
right down thirty. Okay, it's close for you a cliff
you can get there, yeah thirty. I'm like, god, it
is so far.

Speaker 9 (06:18):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (06:18):
So I hadn't been out there in a while. But man,
I had a great time. Except well, I do want
to say this. When I was walking into the stadium,
I love what they've done at Chalktaw Stadium. They've made
a giant like Times Square video billboard right on the
edge right facing Texas Live. Oh cool, And so it
gives it kind of a Times Square feel, you know,
like when you're out there, there's so much construction and

(06:40):
cool stuff out there now crazy, it looks really really cool.
And so I dug that, but I got in and uh,
I'm like, Okay, Rangers offense is terrible. And you know,
you're watching the game and you're like, oh, who's sitting
clean up tonight? Okay, it's Jack Peterson. He's sitting one
sixty five with six home runs on the year, and

(07:01):
like even your best players, You're like, okay, I had
nineteen home runs.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
You know, like at this point, I'm like, nineteen, that's terrible.

Speaker 7 (07:09):
Really if you're the best home run hitter on the
Rangers rather and I'm like, and so somebody was telling me,
you know, this is just not a hitters park, Like
the old park outdoors was a hitters park.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
This is not. This is a pitcher's park.

Speaker 7 (07:21):
But then when they won the World Series, they were
like top five and a ton of offensive categories.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
So what happened? Why is this?

Speaker 7 (07:28):
How is it You're finally getting pitching and you can't
hit the ball now after all these years of being
able to hit and not pitch, and I just I
sat there to the final out and watched them score
zero runs. Oh that's fun. God, that's a hard team
to watch right now. All right, coming up next, Skin,
where you gonna take us in Things? Skin is Tracking?

Speaker 8 (07:47):
Man, I went to Austin for the first time in
about seventeen years and something happened that really ruined my weekend,
and and Skin Show nine some point won the Eagle
sometime later in the show. We'll give away tickets to
in this moment coming to South Side Ballroom on the
twenty third. Now we will have a chance to win,
but you got to have the iHeart app If you

(08:08):
haven't downloaded it yet, it's free. You're gonna need it,
so by all means, have that thing ready and we'll
give away those tickets. Coming up at the bottom of
the hour, we will talk about the chaos at ensued
during KT's SNL Fantasy Draft last night.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
But right now it's time for this.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Track, another edition of Things is Tracking.

Speaker 8 (08:33):
When's the last time any of y'all went to Austin.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
It's probably been a couple of years.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
Yeah, I went years Barton Springs a few years ago. Okay,
not really downtown Austin, but in the area. I remember
you doing that, yes, and twice in the last four years.

Speaker 8 (08:50):
Okay, I used to live in Austin and in the
you know, before Ben and I were full time in radio.
When I was working a little more in the music business,
I would, you know, go to south By Southwest as
part of my job. I was sitting there thinking last
night or no, but going into this weekend, I was like,
so I was. I went to Austin for a quick

(09:10):
trip to go see some music things with a buddy,
And I was like, man, I used to live down here.
I don't think I've been to Austin realistically since two
thousand and nine.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
I mean, that's a long ass time again.

Speaker 8 (09:23):
And I used to go there all the time, so
it's changed quite a bit, as you can imagine. And
me and my buddy, we had a room in downtown,
kind of near Fifth and San Jack. Basically, if you know,
do you guys know Congress Avenue and Austin It's it's
it's it's the it's the street that runs north south
and kind of cuts downtown in half. It goes all

(09:45):
the way across the river, so and a lot of
legendary things, like you guys have seen the Austin motel
with the neon sign that looks like a dong.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Oh of course.

Speaker 8 (09:52):
Okay, that's right off Congress Abby, and it goes all
the way up and just goes right into the state Capitol.

Speaker 10 (09:57):
Right.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
I don't know Austin like the back of my Okay,
you've if you've been to Austin and partied, you've been
near Congress, and you've been near Sixth Street. You guys
have been on Sixth Street, right, That's what we're starting
to bring up. That's the street I know.

Speaker 8 (10:09):
Yeah, So Sixth Street will cross Congress. It's perpendicular, so
all seventh and sixth and Fifth they all run like
east and west, and then Congress runs north and south,
and then there's the river that's like the downtown area.
So we were staying at a hotel in downtown. And
once you're in downtown. We pulled in Saturday afternoon traffic

(10:31):
is insane. Ye, So once you pull in, you're just
going to uber everywhere. You don't want to drive, right,
And so the things that we were going to do,
the shows that we were going to were all along
Fifth Avenue. So we were basically within about a twenty
minute corridor of everything. So it reminded me of the
old days of Austin. I could easily get everywhere. So
we get there, we're like, all right, before we go

(10:52):
to this show tonight, we want to walk somewhere to eat.
So we get We get recommendations from the lady at
the hotel and she says, oh. We were like, yeah,
let's do you know a talker year or something. She goes, Oh,
you're going to want to go to ten ten Tacos.
It's great, just punch in ten ten, it'll come right up. Okay,
all right, so it's time for us. We got about

(11:13):
an hour before we need to get an uber and
go to the east side to go to our show.
I pull up ten ten the restaurant. It's within walking distance. Guys,
it's an eight minute walk. Okay, all right, it's only
ninety five degrees. So we start walking. We get to
Congress Avenue and they have all these barricades up and
we're like, uh, oh, yeah, there's a pride parade. It's

(11:35):
and it's Austin, so you can imagine what a pride
parade in Ausburdo like.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Right, you were destined to be there this weekend.

Speaker 8 (11:41):
I'm geeked, But how am I going to get to
the other side of Congress walking in order to get
to this food place? The parade hadn't started yet. We're
frantically looking about how to cross. This is your Japanese
interval walking training.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
You're right across the parade.

Speaker 10 (11:59):
So I go.

Speaker 8 (12:00):
The police officers like, if you go one block you
can cross. Like great, We go down one block, we cross,
no problem, keep walking. We get to ten ten, We
walk up and we're like, this isn't a Tacorea. It's
a fusion Asian place called ten ten oh oh. The

(12:21):
place the lady recommended was called dz dz oh ten
ten in Spanish.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
I'd tell you can't trust the locals. I'm like, g dad.

Speaker 8 (12:33):
So I pull it up, and because it's downtown with traffic,
it's a twenty six minute uber ride or it's a
fifteen minute walk back the other way in ninety five
degree weather, we choose the fifteen minute walk. By the
time it's back on the other side, if we had
just punched it in in Spanish, it was a five
minute walk from our hotel original, Yes, So we got

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to cross back over the other side. By the time
we get to Congress Avenue, the parade is ready to go.
In that area that we crossed is blocked off. Yep,
We're gonna have to walk all the way down to
the river where the parade starts, walk across and come back.
So that and I'm wearing these shoes that aren't laced up,

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So that walk to dinner ended up being fifty minutes
of walk time.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Does she think that she should say ten tin tacos
to you? I don't know, I mean, don't know a
white man. Yeah, just I don't understand.

Speaker 8 (13:32):
But let me let me tell you, guys walking fifty
minutes in a downtown area, frantically trying to get somewhere.
I just now recovered this morning. The entire weekend, I
felt like I had been trucked.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
So sore my.

Speaker 8 (13:48):
Knees, my ankles, my hips, my ears, it's all yours. Well,
this is just these just start walking shoes, you know
I'm wearing. I'm wearing unlaced dumps, my ears hurting, just
it all hurts, it all hurts. So and then also
we stayed out late Saturday night stayed out late Sunday night,

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and then I drove back yesterday and had to go
be at an event at five point thirty. And this
is this is the weekend where I realized I am old.
Like the things I used to do and wanted to
do and had no problem doing. It's all in the
rear view mirror. Fifteen minutes of walking downtown and unlaced
shoes will ruin me for seventy two hours. God love

(14:32):
you as it was a fun trip.

Speaker 7 (14:33):
Yes, all right, there it is things skin is tracking
coming up next, it's a Hollywood shuffle. Let's do a
deep dive into that controversial SNL draft that happened last night.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
You've got to hear this. It's next right here on
the Eagles.

Speaker 7 (14:48):
Hot.

Speaker 6 (14:48):
God every stay on the top in the shovel.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Sh So every year I host a SNL fantasy draft
where you draft a host or a musician that will
hopefully get named as host or musical guests on the
twenty episodes of Saturday Night Live. Your season premiere is
October fourth. This will run into May and put a
little money on it, and at the end there's a
little payout for whoever wins. So there's going to be

(15:20):
twenty hosts and twenty musical guests. Yes, okay, so forty
you are named. There's ten people in the league who
get ten picks, so one hundred people from pop culture
are going to get named.

Speaker 8 (15:31):
Okay, stop right there. Yeah, this fantasy draft, which I
was a part of, thank you for inviting me. You
invited Ben, but he was unable to make it.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
We were really counting on the Rangers last night and
they didn't come through for us. Why is this ten
rounds because one hundred. Yeah, it's amazing the idea that
you could have one hundred people from pop culture or bands.
I think that's a perfect number for this extraco I.

Speaker 8 (15:58):
Think it's a perfect number for someone who worships at
the altar of SNL. Your average person cannot name fifty
people worthy of being on SNL.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
This was so difficult to do. The average person, okay,
should not agree to be in this league. Fair Like,
I'm just like, that's what it is, Like, I'm sorry,
there's ten rounds. I give the rules up front, Like, yep,
there's ten rounds, and there's the reason rounds. You can
you can't have five rounds because dude, This is the
type of league that you could hypothetically literally win at

(16:28):
one right, at one point, could win you the league
rounds no matter what. If there's no points, that's not
exciting at all. Oh, but you only branch out here.
This is good.

Speaker 7 (16:37):
This is something that you love, Katie, and so you
this is very special for you. This like skin doing
a fantasy draft on documentaries.

Speaker 8 (16:44):
Absolutely god exciting, right, you know it'd be five rounds, right,
and it'd be five people, So you only have to
come up with twenty five documentaries, not one hundred famous people.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Well, I was going inviting him to be in it.
You didn't have to deal with me. I really didn't
have to deal with him. It was actually fine minutes.
Wait till you hear what I gave to Craig Tray.
Go ahead. So here's the first part. So I put
everyone's name on a picker wheel. Christina is in the
league as well, and I do the spin. You guys
know the spin. You know it spins like that kind

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of week, and then you get the little So it
started off poorly because in the league that I'm the
host of and the co defending champion of. Okay, out
of ten people I spin the wheel in front of everyone.
It lands on me, to which I'm like, guys, if
y'all want to respind it, I will because I like,
we can have a democratic vote here fake And they're like, no,
go ahead and snak draft. You really don't want to

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be first anyways. So I take Taylor Swift with the
first pick of the draft. Her album comes out the
day before the SNL premiere. Fine with It could have
gone a lot of different ways. The number two pick
of the draft was Jeff skin Wade, and our friend
Craigtray had been tasked with taking Skin's list, and there's
number one pick as a guy from Iron Maiden, it
wasn't Do you want to talk about the process of

(17:58):
giving your list to create track? Absolutely?

Speaker 8 (18:00):
Heaven please, because as I leave to go have fun
on Austin, I realize I have to somehow come up
with one hundred relevant, famous people that have something important
to promote in the next three months.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
H Christina at one hundred, what do you mean? Not
a hundred?

Speaker 11 (18:14):
Dude?

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Just like the Cowboys draft Board's three hundred and sixty
five guys that get drafted, they don't have three hundred
and sixty five guys and they're bore. They have like eighty.

Speaker 8 (18:20):
You just told me that there's ten people in ten rounds.
That's a hundred if I'm not even there, I have
to be prepared if everyone is drafting. I came up
with a list. I just texting my wife and my
daughter while trying to enjoy my life. Who do you
guys think are famous?

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Who might you?

Speaker 8 (18:38):
And we start this crazy text chain Because then I
got to prepare it and give it to Craytre in
an order who a guy I don't even really know
will execute.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Because I don't even know what I don't know what
he's thinking.

Speaker 8 (18:50):
I have to give it to him in the order
to do it, and he's got to go and cross
off who nine other people are picking before it gets
back around to him, before he can decide, Okay, should
I take this person or not?

Speaker 1 (19:03):
It was so much effing. You could have just backed
out like Ben did when I told Ben, you can
give a list to someone and think jeffing Been's like, nah,
I'm good, just pick someone else. He could have just
done the noble thing and done that.

Speaker 8 (19:13):
You're right, I could have, and I should have. Did
he take Pedro Passcalf. Yeah, number two. Yeah, number two
picks good pick. Okay, that's actually a good pick. Sure
was nothing wrong with that. Yeah, so we move on.
It got odd at pick six in the first round.
Picked seven in the first round from the dumb Zone,
Jake Kent picked Father John Misty.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
He said he has a new album coming out, and
I was like that he just released a new album.
He did it still super pick at best, Like that's
a round nine or round ten pick. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
You don't have to worry about someone taking Father John
Missy unless it's me or Mike. I wasn't planning on
Father John Misty.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
For instance. Here's who went after Father John Misty. Glenn Powell,
Bad Bunny and Christina picked Ann Hathway round one, which
makes sense because does it, well, what that wars Prout
of two is coming out?

Speaker 12 (19:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (20:00):
A lover theater girl you know.

Speaker 8 (20:03):
S Yeah, because you go online and you spend time
researching who had movies and shows.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
That's the thing.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
And it's so tough because there are a lot of
movies and it just kind of gives you, you know,
a whole list of all kinds of Yeah, yep, it
took some time and then you have to sit there
and like cross out who's been said and try to
get your next pick ready.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
It's just it's worked.

Speaker 7 (20:21):
If I could just interject here, it sounds like both
of them are acting like they didn't enjoy the process.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
It's fun. It's fun.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
I mean, but all my good picks were gone because
I had the last pick.

Speaker 8 (20:33):
If this thing was five rounds, there's nothing in the
world I'd be more excited about ten rounds.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
I'm ten rounds. You can start your five round league.
You just I mean you just told me. Wait, I go,
so ten times ten is one hundred? I go. You
gotta go with one hundred eighty.

Speaker 6 (20:47):
I know you don't.

Speaker 9 (20:49):
Yeah, you do.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
There's one hundred people that were drafted. I mean, we're
doing a league for job. Sorry, that's well, okay, should
we carry this over you scroll patrol at four oh four? Yeah,
we can do that. I carry this over, yeah, because
I have some audio to get to as well.

Speaker 8 (21:11):
All right, coming up next part two of this that's
causing a rift and now I'm angry about it thinking
about it, and then we have the craziest rat battle
in the world.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
That's all next on ninety seven to one.

Speaker 8 (21:21):
The But right now it's part two of Kat's SNL
Fantasy Draft. Is we're getting into the nuts and bolts,
and you actually have some audio from something we need
to hear last night.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah. Absolutely, Now Christina was in the draft. She had
the ten picks, she had the little little snake back
around Chick, Anne Hathaway, Scarlett Johansson who I wanted, scar
Joe Cure a Nightley Melacunas girl power from Christina.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
I noticed that, and I think I did a guy next, right,
because I had all girls on the Y had Dave Franco.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah, now, a good thing you didn't take James Franco.
The last two rounds are super p super pick A rounds. Well,
before we get to that, I would say I was
interested in round six and seven from Skin, who had
Cray Tray Mitchell, a good friend of ours, picking for him.
Because you've got both members, not one, but both members

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of the New Heights podcast, Travis and Jason Kelcey in
round six and round seven. And keep in mind, Travis
front half the season is just unavailable. In fact, though
he's a March to May candidate, only he's not spending
his bye week doing that. I guess Jason could do it,
but it'd be weird. So I thought it was strange
that you got both Kelsey brothers.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
It was a Skin move, so I didn't really question it.
I was like, yeah, that sounds like something Skin would
do well.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
But his draft is serious to that point.

Speaker 8 (22:37):
You know, I seriously I did not even consider football season,
and I seriously thought that Travis Kelcey would be on SNL.
And my main logic behind it was bad Buddy's been
on there seven times, it feels like, and Kelsey's in
that movie.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
He's everywhere right now.

Speaker 8 (22:55):
I mean, I thought, I didn't even think about football season,
but I thought, man, I bet they put both of
those Kelsey guys on there. That seems like an SNL
thing to do, because then everyone will get hype thinking
Taylor will show up, whether she does or not.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Could it be a bye week? Did you take it
on a bye week? I don't think you could, dude,
that's like a stressful week.

Speaker 8 (23:14):
Rumbo went to Carrie Underwood with Carrie Underwood during his
bye week in playoff and like went to an island
with her.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
That's just like a hardcore week of work. That's non
It's more work, not physically, but more work, more hours
than a normal week at the facility in football Z. Yeah,
and what you show home? Do snl an the Super Bowl? Taylor? Yeah?
I think she would.

Speaker 8 (23:34):
He took her number one. Ben, the guy who conceived
of the league, made sure he got the number one back.
It was a spinner wheel. Okay, you've heard the spin
you know how it goes right? Okay, So then I
started looking to at some of these other people that
I had high on my list that went elsewhere, and
I was like, why didn't create trade draft that person?
But now I realize when you're talking about a snake

(23:55):
draft and nine other people, I mean, it's but dude.

Speaker 7 (24:01):
This is also if you go to the Cowboys Netflix documentary,
this is why you you know Jerry wants to run
the team himself. Crey Tray ruined your plans now for
exotic vacationing having a great time, and here's the guy
you hired to be GM.

Speaker 8 (24:15):
I feel like maybe KT will bring this up. I
feel like Craig Tray did a good job until explain
with the super pick.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Well, the last two picks are called the super pick,
and that's where you just get double the points, So
if you nail it, you get two points for it
instead of one if you get the.

Speaker 8 (24:32):
Final twenty people of one hundred.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah, it's harder to execute a good super pick.

Speaker 8 (24:37):
Just spend the next three hours trying to name one
hundred relevant famous people.

Speaker 11 (24:41):
Just do it, just to see what.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Just see how this act like we don't host a
radio show that follows pop culture like we do, like
we do, And you know one hundred people, and I
bet there's thirty people, the same thirty people we talk about.

Speaker 8 (24:51):
And we've talked about him for six months. We never
mentioned a seventy five or seventy eight. We don't go
into that realm. It's the top thirty famous people.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
I'm now gonna god see, now you've OCD'd me to
the ledge. Here I can pull audio from a week's
worth of shows. A hundred pop culture people are all
challenge you to do it.

Speaker 8 (25:11):
Christ Jesus play play people seventy through one hundred sometime
this week.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
This is where it gets good to me super pick round.
So everyone's boards getting very skippy here. Yep, but Craig
Tray because people, But keep in mind, the steaks have
been raised. Okay, they've been raised to a two pointer.
And that's where Crater is like, you know what, screwskins list,
I'm gonna act on my own now. Was he could

(25:35):
have done that in one of the picks before easily,
but he waited. And then you're gonna hear old friend
Danny Bay, let's get a pick as well. All right,
I'm gonna go rogue here.

Speaker 6 (25:43):
Skin.

Speaker 13 (25:43):
I'm sorry, but I think this is he just had
a massive movie come out. Everyone loves him. I think
after Superman David corn Sweat will host. Yeah, the falls
on you to wait until the super pick round to
go to go row. Sorry, sorry Skin, Danny. Mariah Carrey, Wow.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Okay, now listen, listen, listen, listen. Are gonna hear our
good friend strip Mall, Steve shackle Ford just gonna say
good pick, and then you're gonna hear Kent Garrison from
the One Star Cowboys podcast and formerly of the pop
punk band Forever the Sickest Kids. Listen to him after
Steve goes a good pick, Mariah Carrey, Wow, good pick?

Speaker 10 (26:29):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (26:35):
And I keep this bitch moving like We're done in
an hour. One hundred names drafted. The thing was done
in an hour. And five minutes.

Speaker 8 (26:42):
So last night or this morning. I don't even remember
when you sent out the master list. I had no
idea who David corn Sweat was I saw. I had
no idea. I saw it on my list of names.
I go, man, I don't know who that person is
that he took with a super pick.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
What a weird name. Hey, it sounds like it was
a success though. It was a rousing.

Speaker 8 (27:02):
I think I'm going to win the NNL Fantasy Draft.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
You got a chance?

Speaker 3 (27:06):
All right?

Speaker 1 (27:06):
There you have it.

Speaker 7 (27:08):
That is the SNL Draft recap coming up next in
the scroll patrol the worst freestyle rat battle ever next.

Speaker 12 (27:15):
Yeah, yeah, this screwing's looking at big.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Troll muck Bong and this is a king.

Speaker 6 (27:29):
Snake.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, it's screw the True.

Speaker 6 (27:37):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (27:38):
I just said, it's scroll true all right.

Speaker 7 (27:41):
When you're like me and you're brave out there on
the Internet, scrolling so your friends don't have to, I'm
finding some of the most amazing things that.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
The Internet has to offer on social media.

Speaker 9 (27:51):
Now.

Speaker 7 (27:51):
The problem with some of that is it's often in
a time warp. I can't tell you, Like when I
found uh, Charles the King, Charles the duh. I don't
know if that's from the early two thousands or if
that was from last week.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Great fine, though, thank you. You just never know.

Speaker 7 (28:08):
It's not an exact science like that because it takes
a lot of work to then go research where all
this crap comes from. But there is something that has
been showing up on my timeline a lot over the
last couple of years, and it's one of the worst
rap battles I've ever seen. Now I've done some research
on it, and I'm still not certain if any of

(28:29):
this is accurate. This might be from the twenty tens.
It's all I know is this. There is a woman
and she's freestyle rap battling. And what that used to mean.
Freestyle would mean you had to come up with something
off the top of your head. It was totally impromptu.
Nowadays people called things freestyles and they're just wrapping written
lyrics over instrumentals and maybe throwing in a little freestyle.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
But this is where it's a battle. It's toe to toe.

Speaker 7 (28:56):
You're supposed to be coming up with zingers off the
top of your head, and she's coming up with stuff
they're just not quite zinging.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
And so how many of these cuts do we have?
I have four of them?

Speaker 8 (29:07):
All right, we have we have four different cuts from
this is this when you discover this is it video,
so you can see what these people look like. Oh yeah, okay,
give us a description of who we're looking at here.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
She looks like.

Speaker 7 (29:21):
A pretty standard white girl brunette Jeanine Garoffalo.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Interesting, maybe how old a jeaning Garoffalo?

Speaker 7 (29:30):
Maybe's maybe twenty or something twenty five something like that,
all right.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Somewhere in that twenty five to thirty five range. Oh yeah,
that's okay. I' see what you're saying. It's my guess
it's hard to tell you. Welcome.

Speaker 7 (29:39):
Now let's listen to four pieces of her battling in
freestyle rap and just get a vibe for what she's
throwing down.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
Now that's for you, missy. I don't know you from
a hole in the wall, so your basbook pro ball
is all I had to go on. So I'll start
clicking on some pictures, and this is what I came across.
You letting your kids sit PEPSI out of a cant
What is you thinking? Tell me if you really want
her to grow up to be just as happy as
you Stephanie left to marry some fifty year old man.
And then when I thought I'd seen it all, I

(30:09):
start scrolling a little further on down you wall another picture,
you letting your kid go to town on pepsiavo bottle.
Come on, now, that's just irresponsible to forget a stress test.
She'll have heavy breath and just leaving the nest. Now,
I didn't come here to be a dick. I just
wanted to ruffle some feathers and shuffle the deck. So,
just out of respect, I didn't bring the pictures. But

(30:29):
for future reference, you should take that down. Now. I
understand this is your first battle rap, So let's see
if you're up for the task. Because if you check
my Facebook, you can probably use my own statuses against me.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
But I say, you too lazy for that.

Speaker 8 (30:46):
That was really tough, like really good spoken words stuff here.
Then yeah, it's really bad. And she's doing all the mannerism.

Speaker 7 (30:55):
She's like pointing at the person she's battling and acting
like she's landing these haymakers and she's not.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
But there's more something else. I think this is the
person she's battling here on this one, I think something else.
Let me tell you what.

Speaker 5 (31:08):
The way I was brought up, I was caught not
to take something unless you bought it. So when you're
stepping up on the stock and you're taking something hot,
I don't get cut or you get.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Cut, cut, cut, what's weird. There's a bunch of guys
just standing around last day, bro, he said, she went,
or you'll get cut, and then she went into cut,
like cut the scene. Okay, so this.

Speaker 8 (31:35):
Feels like, and I don't know, again, we're in a
time warp. Didn't there used to be an MTV show
where they had randos like this sort of thing.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Maybe, Yeah, I think it's probably from that. It's like,
it's not the production value.

Speaker 8 (31:49):
But I'm just saying like that makes people like Janine
Garoffalo here feel like, oh yeah, I'm gonna do what
I just saw on Wallden out.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah, here's that sure one uppercut.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
Some of these mothers saint cutting the mustard talking about
how I got no instruction neither the DNA before they
discovered the double helix.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Oh that's nice. You know, we were in a better
place before people posted everything. That was a better place.

Speaker 8 (32:15):
You know what, she needs an editor, If she had
someone you know, kind of gatekeeping her content. I feel
like we could only get the best of her an advisor,
you know, maybe.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Don't do this. Oh here's a bad one right here,
the last one that's pretty awesome, not dumb.

Speaker 5 (32:31):
Now, when Tanner found out that Channon couldn't come, he
asked me to come here and Tanya rat and I
said I'd do it. I figured I'd step up and
be the bigger man. But this looks like a step down,
and Shannon's futs. I think I thought this through enough.
But you know what they say, behind every hate, it
is a piece of truth. And I have to agree

(32:51):
because some random guy facebook me saying, you're a horrible rapper.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
But you're sort of cute. That's true.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
Now, back in my battle was I'm more or less
older a badass, And it's all only that I told.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Her exactly what to do to fix it.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
I said, do some rets, the next climb up and
flight of steps, et cetera. And if she had only listened,
maybe she wouldn't be at home six.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
My mind is blow.

Speaker 8 (33:18):
This sounds like a teacher reading to a class of
fifth grade.

Speaker 7 (33:21):
She's just talking really fast. Yeah, it's painful, it's so painful.
So there you have it, the worst battle wrapper of
all time. No idea where it's from. On account that
was on that you sent to me? What Cringe Boulevard, boulevard?
There's always good stuff on Cringe Boulevard.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
All right?

Speaker 7 (33:40):
Coming up next just over three minutes, is the Mica
deal now imminent? And are the Mavericks about to extend somebody?
All that's coming away in just over three minutes. And
around the sports.

Speaker 14 (33:51):
Now it's cool around the sports KT twins as all
the sports.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yeah, a couple of contract hold in or hold out
situations met the resolution yesterday, which couldn't give us the
context clues that this Mica thing will get done sooner
than later yesterday. The other kind of case study when
it comes to pass rushers in the league is a
gu named Trey Hendrickson who plays with the Bengals. Now,
they did not give him an extension, but they boosted

(34:21):
his salary from sixteen million up to thirty million. They
just gave him a fourteen million dollar raise for this year. What, yeah,
is he holding out and demanding a trade? He asked
for a trade. He'll be a free agent after this year.
They were probably going well, no, because we'll just let
your contract run out and then we'll franchise tag you,
or maybe we'll do it reasonable deal. Whatever heals, by

(34:44):
the way, operate in a cheap manner most of the time.
And they've already had to spend because they spent on
t Higgins the wide receiver.

Speaker 8 (34:51):
Was he on his rookie deal or he'd been around
the league for a while and was on a second time.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
I think this is his rookie deal. Okay, Okay, I
could be wrong on that, but I believe that's that
would make sense that he's on a rookie deal. So
sixteen millions what he was making gets that boosted up
to thirty for this year, and he's like, fine, I'll play.

Speaker 6 (35:08):
I just like that.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Mike's not really asking for that, He just wants a deal.
But I do wonder if the Cowboys went, what if
we just gave you like six million dollars more for
this year.

Speaker 8 (35:17):
Well but the problem with that, and with this Hendrick saying,
is for all these contracts, it's about guaranteed money because
it's a league of emminent injury, and so that's really
what this is about, is guaranteed money and That's why
the Hendrick saying is kind of weird, where it's like,
you didn't really guarantee yourself anything beyond this year and
he could still get franchised.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah, no, absolutely, but once you're franchised, that's all guaranteed.

Speaker 8 (35:41):
But you know what else that is, that's the Bengals
think they can win it all this year and they
don't want to fart around.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
No, absolutely, and they can, they absolutely can. Right the Cowboys,
you know, I don't think they can win it all,
but you know, no, they cannot, they absolutely cannot. And
but this is in terr McLaurin signed, right, Terrey mccorn,
and it is hold out wide receiver for the Washington
Football Commanders. What are they now? The Commanders?

Speaker 7 (36:05):
So these this is just how it goes. The guy
who wants a new contract, he demands to be traded.
No one ever takes that seriously. It looks like these
people hate each other and then they get a deal
worked out and everybody's fine.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Yeah, that's what's gonna happen here too. Now there's like
a photo going around that appears to be Jerry joking
around with Micah's mom.

Speaker 7 (36:28):
Yeah, they bumped into each other at the stadium. You
know he's got that mother, And how do you just
bump into Jerry at the stadium too, It's why your
mom's walking around the stadium.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Well, it's given me a little more credence to the
idea that this is all kind of agreed upon by
all parties, that we're going to stretch this thing out right,
Because did you see what they were saying to each other?

Speaker 10 (36:47):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (36:47):
No, I didn't see that. He said something like he
got the video if you mean to play, yeah, play, yeah, play.
There's no cussing, it's very friendly. There's laughing, there's hugging.
Let's try this now, I put warn't you out there playing?

(37:11):
So she's wearing a Micah jersey and he says, Michael,
why aren't you out there applying to his mother. Yes,
you act like you got some money or something. You
act like you want some money or something.

Speaker 8 (37:20):
I meanwhile, Mike is laying on a training table acting
like an eight year old.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Don't talk to my mom. Jerry's like, I'm talking to
your mother now, mother. Jerry's winning all aspects.

Speaker 8 (37:32):
He's gonna tell David Muffletta that I don't need to
talk to you I can talk to his mom if
this was like this real tense situation that does not happen.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Now, why is this so gross to me? That's also gross?
What's his obsession with getting around the mothers of all
these players? Dude, it's the best category. Isn't that way?
For years though, he's always trying to hang out with
the moms of these players.

Speaker 8 (37:56):
Respect You get to your mama, then you're in.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
You're in.

Speaker 6 (38:00):
Good.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Is PJ. Washington gonna get signed to an extension? Sounds
like it.

Speaker 8 (38:05):
They've been speculating that all summer, and you know, I've
been seeing a lot of that, and it surprised me because,
you know, it's like, all right, I figured they would
wait till next year because of dealing with aprons and
all that sort of stuff. But the number that we
saw is stein throwing around. You know, you're basically going
to pay a guy that may come off the bench.
I have a feeling he's going to start a good

(38:27):
chunk of the year.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
We'll see how they use him.

Speaker 8 (38:28):
But in the neighborhood of twenty two to twenty three
million a year, which I think is a good number
for a player like that, it would be easy to
trade that player. But when they're signing him, they will
not be able to trade him this year because they
won't be able to trade him for six months, which
will come after the trade deadline. So he'll be a
Maverick oh year long for sure. But I mean if

(38:50):
they get him extended for four years, I personally love
that because remember when the Mavericks got the number one pick,
and even before the draft, just during the lottery, everyone's like, oh, oh,
that's the end of PJ.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
And I'm like, no, I don't think so.

Speaker 11 (39:02):
Man.

Speaker 8 (39:03):
Do you think those championships? Yeah, they like the way
that Nico talks. If you want to take him at
face value, you don't trade your best defensive player, which PJ.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Washington Junior is.

Speaker 8 (39:12):
I mean, he's the guy they put on Shay Gilgess
Alexander like he's their best defensive player, right.

Speaker 7 (39:18):
So this doesn't keep them from I mean they basically
try it out, see how they like all the pieces
working together. They wait for Kyrie to get back, and
if they don't like it, they still have flexibility to
get off of him or anybody.

Speaker 8 (39:32):
And to your point, to your point, man, the Gafford's
very tradable PJ. Washington's very tradable. By that, I mean
other teams would love those players at that money. And
then they got several players in the ten million dollar
range to where they can throw together a big, gigantic
trade if they need to. So Man, really good news
for the Mavericks for in my opinion, at least for
the kind of team they're trying to build.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
There you go.

Speaker 7 (39:53):
Coming up next, giant trees are falling on women in DFW.
The story next are You Excited and Get.

Speaker 14 (40:04):
Day Day, featuring veteran news anchor Katie fun tweets.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
The guy who covers the who, what, when, where, why
and how of every story is Channel It's Matt Howardton
Incredible or if you've never heard of him, Matt Hooderton.
Let's go to Lakewood over in East Dallas for this
while last story.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
The woman was driving through Lakewood this afternoon when a
massive tree fell on her SUV.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Matt Howard joined the slide from East Dallas. Matt, have
you heard anything about the driver? Is she okay? Yeah, Chris.

Speaker 9 (40:36):
She was taken to the hospital in serious condition and
it's a miracle that she is alive.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
This can't be described any other way. But then, okay,
how could this be described.

Speaker 8 (40:47):
How he's about to describe it? Yes, are we guessing?

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Yeah, I'll let you hear the five seconds before that
she is alive. This can't be described any other way.
But then but then as a miracle, nope. But then
as an act of God nope. Terrible accident closer, Yeah.

Speaker 9 (41:10):
Horrific, but then a free free just can't be described
any other way.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
But then a freak accident.

Speaker 9 (41:16):
Anybody driving along wind Over when this tree came toppling
down could have been hit. She was driving her scuv
here on wind Over. That's when the tree came toppling down.
There's no word just yet how that tree came toppling down.
You could speculate maybe it's the roots, maybe it was
a little bit older, But at the moment, there's no wind.
It's really hot outside, so not sure what caused this

(41:37):
tree to come falling down.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
But it hit this woman's suv. She had to be
extricated out. Okay. Also he did go on to mention
that there were kids walking to and from school in
that area too, and this tree's huge. Do you have
what time of day this happened? Two forty five PM,
oh man, is it wind like? Oh, there's no wind?
What there's no wind yesterday? I liked it. He spent roots. Well, okay,

(42:02):
that's my number one root rot. Root rot these make
on root rot. If you're not watering around the area
round your tree, you get root rot. If I was
watering my yard properly, I do contend I could be
wrong here, But the eighty mile per hour winds that
lifted a tree and took down my fence and also
my neighbor's fence across the alley, all of that might

(42:25):
not have happened if I had been taking care of
that tree. Now, you don't say that publicly for a
while because you don't want to be responsible for any
of it. And it probably was the tornadic activity and
the eighty mile p hour winds. But the root rot
that makes these trees weak. Eventually, these trees need that
foundation and that base, and they're just gonna start falling
now because people aren't tending to their trees correctly. We're

(42:47):
gonna see lots of trees falling in DFW in the
coming years because they got nowhere to go.

Speaker 11 (42:51):
But up.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Are you a part time arborist? I have friends who
work in the tree business, and I've learned a lot
about root rot over the years.

Speaker 8 (42:57):
That reminds me of that great commercial local commercial. It's
a good thing to have friends in the tree business.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 11 (43:05):
It is.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
It's a good friend to have friends in many businesses,
but tree business always quick text now, yeah, we'll come
knock it out for you.

Speaker 7 (43:14):
This is the thing that I noticed most when I,
you know, leave the way way Northern Burbs where I
live up in Prosperus, Alana, and I'm driving around in Dallas,
is how mature the trees are.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Yeah, Like, we just don't have that because it's a
new community. So it really stands out to me.

Speaker 7 (43:29):
Like just looking at the video of this tree that
fell in this lady's car, it's Massachusetts, one hundred fet tall.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Good killed her.

Speaker 8 (43:36):
Those trees are all over East Dallas. When when that
huge windstorm came through, I don't know it's I guess
it was before the pandemic. But over at Lakewood Golf Club,
which has been around for forever, they had some massive
trees that they had to remove because the wind destroyed them.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Was that the one that came in on like not
not the Tornado the night the cowboys applying this like
Saturday or Soday afternoon out of nowhere with no warning,
and the crane hit that building down deep. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (44:04):
Yes, And some of these trees to Ben's pointer, you know,
I bet that tree is one hundred years old, you know.
And there's no just no telling what's going on underneath
the soil.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
You're literally never thinking though that a tree is going
to fall on you in life. Right here to tell
you now, that's a possibility if you're living in the
big d now like I was in Colorado a couple
weeks ago, you driving mountains, I'll be damned. I was
looking like, hey, let's watch for a falling rock here,
you know what the of the sign up every now
and then watch.

Speaker 7 (44:32):
You say that out loud or just tell yourself. And
your thought was in my head, you know, I was
talking to myself, Hey, let's look for a falling around
And then what would you say to yourself after you
said that.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Something about there's a chance if you really look at these,
look at the side of the road here, there does
appear to be some huge rocks that I fell from
the mountain. Also, though a lot of good natural water
sources up in the mountains. I really have that here.
When's the last time you just saw some water running?

Speaker 11 (44:57):
You know?

Speaker 8 (44:57):
You know, I'd love to take a little hit of that.
I feel like you've been watching a lot of Final
destination movies.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
I haven't.

Speaker 8 (45:03):
Well, I want to do that because these are random
acts of insanity.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
This is the news. Brother.

Speaker 8 (45:08):
I'm yeah, no, I'm not, I know, but you're sitting
here talking about falling rocks and stuff.

Speaker 7 (45:11):
Late.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Let's keep us the tree fell sure is out to
get us right now because we haven't been doing our
part to protect revenge. There is Captain Climate, Mother Nature.
Captain Climate strikes again. All right, get hot out there,
isn't it?

Speaker 15 (45:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (45:26):
How about coming up next? And coming up next? Over
three minutes, it's the Today game. Then cussing the Cowboys.
It's all coming your way next, come on, surprise.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
So this is where we pick it up. Yesterday we
reviewed episode five of America's Team, the Gammore and His
Cowboys the eight Parts here he's on Netflix, and we
cover the divorce between Jerry and Jimmy, the hiring of
Barry Switzer, and then the Cowboys ultimately fail to get
back to the Super Bowl. They losing the NFC Championship
game to the forty nine ers. So episode six, what
do you gotta do in that off season? Well, you

(46:14):
gotta sign Dion Sanders from the forty nine ers. You
gotta sign him. Dion come in and head all right,
Jerry says.

Speaker 12 (46:20):
We can get you know, saying, but if we're going
look coat, I wouldn't get your thoughts on.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
So what do you mean my thought?

Speaker 12 (46:26):
You don't need to get my thoughts. Hell are you
talking about? If we can get deal? We get deal.

Speaker 11 (46:31):
It was a lot of money. I'm gonna always voice
an opinion, even if it's not his opinion. You know,
we need to make sure this is going to be
good for the future of the organization.

Speaker 6 (46:39):
Before we signed it, I'm in one room and Steven
was with me and Deon's agent, Eugene Parker was sitting up.

Speaker 11 (46:47):
He said, let me start out with Eugene, just the
two of us, so we don't do on one.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
So I got in there with him, and uh, we
made the deal. Dad walks in on never forget with
this big smile.

Speaker 6 (46:58):
I guess I think if we got this time and
I go, what, well, Steven grabs me shoves me up
against the door, and I started laughing, and I said,
what are you gonna do? Hit your dad? Are you nuts?

Speaker 11 (47:12):
I said, I'm not going to hit you, but Dad,
we don't have to pay that much. Why don't you
do this, this, this, and this, Steven. You don't understand
we've done this deal.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
That's why I think they are actually going to be
better once Steven's fully a George. Yeah, there's always got
that reasonable factor in. Okay, that's really good to hear that.

Speaker 8 (47:30):
Actually, Yeah, and then now we learned back in the
day Jerry used to talk to important agents.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Yeah. Yeah, right.

Speaker 7 (47:37):
By the way, I've said this on the air, I
was told somebody close to the Jones family that if
Steven does take over someday, he'll hire a GM.

Speaker 8 (47:46):
That's awesome to hear, just awesome to hear. Love the
use of that song too. I put a spell on you.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Yeah, that's so great. So this is the next time
I've labeled this Jerry breaking all the rules.

Speaker 8 (47:57):
The league says the Cowboys are in violation in agreement
with NFL properties.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
If we let Mavericks go out on their own, they'll
destroy the league.

Speaker 11 (48:05):
What we've normally put in a sponsorship, we're looking at Nike.

Speaker 6 (48:09):
The rules in the NFL at that time we were
prohibited from making a deal with Nike. Sponsorship was done
at the league level, and so that if the league
signed with Rebok or Coca Cola, everybody went with Reebok
and Coca Cola.

Speaker 16 (48:28):
The Cowboys account for a fourth of all the merchandise
sold but get only a thirtieth of the profits.

Speaker 6 (48:34):
My plan was each of the clubs do their own
selling of their own marks and logos.

Speaker 14 (48:40):
Jones announced the sale of stadium softwering rights to Fension
for some twenty million dollars over ten years in defiance
of the league's huge national deal with Coca Cola.

Speaker 6 (48:50):
So with our great game and name, we need to
be associating ourselves with the Heisman Trophy winners in every field.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
And Phil Night and Nike does that. They go into
the Nike deal that he does, and it makes every
owner mad. He is on his own.

Speaker 8 (49:06):
Think about that, though, Think about why. There's a couple
reasons why it makes every other owner mad. But the
main reason is that they know they can't get the
money he gets, and they're all siphoning off.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Of his name. No he just passed him in the
left line, like to.

Speaker 7 (49:20):
Be responsible for a quarter of the revenue but only
getting a thirtieth of the share. Yeah, you know this
is where you're watching this going, Okay, Jerry's badass, This
is actually good. Jerry's doing good things here. All those
things he was doing business wise.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
We're great.

Speaker 8 (49:37):
And the other reason too, Ben why it's like they
get mad, but he just changed everything on the TV deal,
which they all benefit.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Like he blew up football for sure, each.

Speaker 8 (49:48):
And every one of those owners gained just so much
value in their franchise is because of that National TV deal.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
I mean, football might have been the favorite for a
lot of people. I don't really know what the holes
was like in nineteen ninety three or ninety four, but
we've for my whole life, football has been king. Yeah,
and it's largely because of that TV deal. It absolutely was.

Speaker 8 (50:08):
That was when the NFL passed Major League Baseball and
has never looked back since, and it's lapped the field.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
When we come back, let's really dive into the owners
getting mad at Jerry. Some lawsuits back and forth, and
my god, Troy Aateman hated Barry Switzer all right now,
here is KT, so we pick it up. The owners
are mad at Jerry Jones again. This is episode six
of the Netflix series and the Cowboys. They're mad at
Jerry Jones for a lot of reasons because he's a

(50:34):
let's be honest here, He's won two of the last
three Super Bowls. His team's kind of wild ass, and
he's going rogue on a lot of things, including some
marketing deals that the leagues all agreed to.

Speaker 12 (50:45):
Once again, Jerry Jones has a business deal against NFL properties.

Speaker 14 (50:50):
The owners are trying to figure out if Jones is
a genius or he's just a Jersey.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
He was dumbing his nose in the league and moving ahead.
It's just planned to re configure the way the NFL
did business.

Speaker 9 (51:01):
It was hard not to notice the Cowboys have gone
to corporate teens greed to.

Speaker 7 (51:05):
Going to take over football.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
I'm in the NFL to compete for Super Bowls.

Speaker 17 (51:10):
By going against the league structure and signing his own deal,
he's able to generate that much more money.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
The league owners, aren't you happy about it?

Speaker 16 (51:17):
With the spirit of cooperation and partnership in the league
is obviously, I think been violated.

Speaker 14 (51:21):
The owner's biggest fear maybe that Jones is using the
millions from these sponsorship deals to sign top free agents.

Speaker 17 (51:28):
They were two hundred thousand dollars under the sower cap,
and all of a sudden, Jerry back thirteen million.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
I didn't understand all that because the salary cap was
put into place. So what do we It was put
into place in nineteen ninety four, we're in nineteen ninety five. Now,
I don't know how far ahead you are on the series.
And I don't even ever want except the last one?

Speaker 8 (51:48):
Okay do they so keep in mind, and they may
not even get into it.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Exau don't have time to get into everything.

Speaker 8 (51:54):
A couple of years later, the forty nine Ers and
the Cowboys are both going to be taken to the
matt for violating the rules of the salary cap circumventing.
That's the first time you ever started hearing the word
circumventing the salary cap. So, because it's not a hard cap,
there's mechanisms to get around it, and so I think

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that's probably wasn't a hard cap. It wasn't hard cap.
And also keep in mind before that they had Plan
B free agency. But that's the whole thing about being
able to spread money around and move it to different
years and all this kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
They didn't really get into that. Yeah, yeah, they can't.
That'd be too much. So Jerry would come up with
to plan be free agency. When you're talking about you
know there's a cap number, but you come up with
this other money. That's kind of what they're talking Each
team gets one abortion. You can abort a contract thirty
I'm saying nineteen ninety four, the NFL salary cap was

(52:54):
set for thirty four point six million dollars. That's crazy,
which is about what Mike is asking. H No, I said,
magsize for more than that. Actually, that's crazy. Okay, So
there's all these lawsuits that are happening, and you're going
to get some emotional Jerry at the end. Out of control.

Speaker 4 (53:09):
That is the phrase several NFL owners have used to
describe Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, and is so called ambush
marketing tactics.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Well, today the owners huddled in Atlanta.

Speaker 7 (53:19):
When you have a partner who's willing to say I
don't care about your rules, how do you stop them?

Speaker 10 (53:25):
The NFL is taking America's team to court for some
three hundred million dollars.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
It takes a while for a league to suer club,
and that would have taken the team.

Speaker 6 (53:34):
And I knew that there is no doubt in my
mind that the NFL is trying to intimidate the Dallas Cowboys.
And I understand politics, but intimidation.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Being a bully, be careful, but I was cutting and shooting.
It's official.

Speaker 16 (53:46):
Cowboys owner Jerry Jones sue the NFL today seven hundred
and fifty million anti trust.

Speaker 7 (53:51):
It's an illegal cartel, man, it is a cartel.

Speaker 6 (53:53):
At the league meeting, we had finished up a lot
of the business and they said, now Jerry, you're going
to have to leave because of your lawsuit, walked almost
out of the room, and then all of a sudden,
I just swelled up and teared up, turned around all
the owners. I said, guys, I want you to know this.
If you win, I know you're gonna take the day.
But if I win, I'm gonna collect every penny.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Cut me deep.

Speaker 6 (54:17):
Heer walked down.

Speaker 7 (54:20):
My favorite part of the whole thing, because he was
talking about tearing up, and I thought he was gonna
say something sentimental like this means the most to me,
and I love you guys, and I really want to.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
He turned around and said, do not f with me.
I'm coming for every penny.

Speaker 8 (54:34):
It is amazing how much money is spent by rich
people suing one another.

Speaker 15 (54:39):
Oh my god.

Speaker 8 (54:40):
And that's why the best job ever is a lawyer.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Yeah. Yeah, because there's always I.

Speaker 8 (54:44):
Mean, dude, the whole history of the Hunt family in
this city. Like we know all the nice Hunts like
Dan and Clark and all those people, but you know,
there's money all over throughout the city that's been split
in different ways because of how far back that family goes.
And there's lawyers whose entire job is just maintaining all
of that. I imagine Parro same way. Yeah, just all

(55:06):
these big rich names, so many lawsuits. Dude, Ross pro
Junior and Mark Cubans were suing each other constantly.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
I'm amazed at how much. And I don't know like
the details. I mean, you got like breaking news emails
all the time, Like Trump has so many lawsuits. Yeah,
and he just files with Ken Paxton here down Like
he just files a ton of lawsuits yep. And I'm like,
does that cost you money? It's like, oh, you must
be making the money back. Somehow, So I've always been
kind of confused by that. When we come back from

(55:33):
the break, Troy Aikman and Barry Switzer, I mean, they
really get into Troy almost wrecking the team because of
his hatred for Barry Switzer. And I was shocked to
learn all of this. And we'll play the wild audio
neck you.

Speaker 7 (55:46):
Par rolling with us today and every day we are
examining America's team, The Gambler and His Cowboys the Netflix
docu series, episode six. But I want to mention this
real quick. We were talking last night. I was with
my buddies and we were talking about, you know, how
much the Cowboys are worth now, and they've been valued
at twelve billion dollars or whatever that is. And you know,

(56:07):
you hear some of the numbers in this docu series,
is you know Dion's contract, because Dion was thirty five grand,
thirty five million, rather thirty four to something like that,
thirty four million, and they were like a father and
son were about to fight over it. And now you
know Dak makes sixty million per year, yeah, almost seven
at thirty five. Like it's crazy, how how rapidly thinks.

(56:28):
And I don't think I ever really spend time thinking about,
you know, billions of dollars, and you know, when you
look at that valuation, you think about a billionaire. And
Mark Cubans even talked to us about there being middle
class billionaires, guys who just have through four billion and
then like the Addleson's have thirty five billion or whatever
it is. But somebody told me this last night. A

(56:50):
million seconds is roughly eleven point five days. Okay, a
million seconds is roughly eleven point five days. A billion
seconds is approximately thirty one point seven years. Damn that's
a big difference, right, Yeah, and the Cowboys are worth
twelve billion dollars and wouldn't even ever sell for that.

(57:13):
All right, let's continue breaking down episode six with more
on that. Here's Kevin Turner.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
So Barry Switzer's the head coach, and this is the year,
the calendar year nineteen ninety five for that season, and
they got a good team. They just they couldn't get
the three peet done. The problem is that the quarterback
is really upset that Barry Switzer is not really you know,
an ass cheer. So here's Troy.

Speaker 16 (57:36):
I went to Oklahoma with a coach who was pretty
intense He was every bit as intense as Jimmy. He
was the guy calling all the shots. But the Barry
that came to Dallas, he was totally different.

Speaker 15 (57:49):
When we started to have primes because Troy wanted.

Speaker 16 (57:52):
Me to be Jimmy, but Barry, the practices weren't at
the intensity level that they needed to be. Then they
ad I took that upon myself.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Does every day.

Speaker 16 (58:02):
I had to be the bad cop to com I
don't even know the guy play, but our relationship was struggling.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Those two were not together. It was hearing it to you.
I'm that's intense. It gets in and more because I
got more Troy just go. I mean, there's so many
Troy rants we're about to hear, So I mean to
enjoy Troy Hayman just yelling at people. And that was
back in those days.

Speaker 8 (58:28):
That was a common thing to see during a game,
was footage of Troy on the sideline yelling at everybody
like that was something that you have strong memories.

Speaker 7 (58:36):
Of because Jimmy was the disciplinarian. Jimmy held everyone in
check and maybe even too much like a college atmosphere, right,
like disciplining grown men. Switzer's just like Nah man, do
whatever you want to do as long as you're ready
to go on game day. And Aikman's like, what we
have to have discipline, and so he felt like he
had to be the bad cop, so he had to

(58:56):
do that, and it's yeah, he resented the hell out
of Switzer from making.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Him have to do that.

Speaker 8 (59:01):
Do you do you know to k T do you
know the history of why and how Barry Switzer was
neutered in Dallas but for it happened at Oklahoma?

Speaker 5 (59:10):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (59:10):
No, he was a god.

Speaker 8 (59:11):
Like when Ben and I grew up, Barry, you talked
about Barry Switzer the way you talked about Nick Saban.
And then there is a moment in time where at
Ou they had steroids, they had gang rights. Yeah, and
so like he was blamed for all of it. Did
they get into that, Okay, a little bit. He was
never going to coach again, Like he was retired and
he was good because he who's paid well probably yeah,

(59:33):
but he was still a hero in Norman. But the
whole point of like what Troy's saying is like Barry
from who he was, was completely neutered by all of that.
And dude, you're you basically you know this is an
ego game between Jimmy and Jerry and everybody else is
catching friendly fire. Yeah, like he Jones hired Switzer because
it was like hiring a clown. Any five hundred coaches

(59:56):
can win this. I'll go get the most laughing stock
coach you can think of and he'll win a super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
And old rival.

Speaker 8 (01:00:03):
Yeah, it's very disrespectful to Jimmy to get his rival.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Uh, this is Barry Colin Troy. After this, Troy.

Speaker 12 (01:00:10):
Aikman's upset I think with the Budios because he expected.

Speaker 16 (01:00:13):
It out and he got it up.

Speaker 15 (01:00:15):
In that game, Kevin Williams dropped a couple of passes
and Troy was eating his ass out and I ached
when I saw Gate the cat it with him. I'll
never forget because I heard it, and that bothered me.
And that Monday after the game, I called Troy and
I said, Troy, come come, I'm gonna visit with you.
Troy came in the office.

Speaker 16 (01:00:36):
He said, there's some players that are saying that you
only yell at black players, is what he said. And
I said, that's you know, the only I said, that's
supposed if a player is not doing what he's supposed
to do.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
I didn't give two years to what color he was.

Speaker 16 (01:00:51):
I mean I was upset.

Speaker 15 (01:00:53):
I said, you know, what was said really bothered me,
and I think you really need to apologize. I think
it's a did you do that?

Speaker 16 (01:01:01):
I think Barry thought that I would just accept that
and then just go on down the road. Of course,
whether it was Michael or Hayley or any of the others,
I mean they they said it was a bunch of
bs as well, and.

Speaker 12 (01:01:14):
Toy was the race out. Me and him would have
problem a long time ago. This is not when you
can you can even go anywhere near Troy with you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
Can pick anyone. I can promise a ninety percent of
you and land on African American somewhere. So somebody gonna
get their butt chewed out, no matter who it is.
So I didn't. I didn't.

Speaker 16 (01:01:30):
I didn't see it that way. That was the final
nail that severed our relationship.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Yeah that's really bad, Yeah right? Or did Barry really
think that?

Speaker 6 (01:01:43):
Well?

Speaker 8 (01:01:43):
There was a defensive line coach, ironically enough, named John Blake,
and John Blake had been with Barry Switzer at ou.
John Blake was the one stern all that stuff up
to John blake Is in the newspapers at the time. Yeah,
so it was not just Barry. It was a thing
that was happening in the team.

Speaker 7 (01:02:01):
So you think about everything Troy had to go through,
the early quarterback controversy where they drafted Walsh, Right, he's
going through that bs, all the concussions he took because
he always stood in the pocket and would take a hit.
Then having to deal with losing Jimmy, who he had
bonded with, who was the disciplinarian, getting his clown Switzer
and then having no discipline, then him having to be

(01:02:22):
that guy. Now he's dealing with Skip Baylis saying he's
gay in a book, which is unfounded. Now he's dealing
with Switzer and these guys accusing him of being a racist,
which was unfounded. It's like they put him through so
much crap they didn't have to. I was super sympathetic
to Troy watching this thing going. Man, he could have
as many Super Bowls as Brady if they hadn't screwed

(01:02:43):
this up.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
And I think too, Ben.

Speaker 8 (01:02:45):
You know, you always forget because you look at athletes
different because they're famous. This is a guy in his
twenties sure. This is a guy in his twenties dealing
with all this stuff. It's crazy, all right.

Speaker 7 (01:02:55):
Coming up next the fiery conclusion of our discussion about
episode six Don't Message, just a couple of minutes away before.

Speaker 8 (01:03:01):
Boy won the Eagle. We were talking about this earlier today.
Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey engaged, and so will that
impact the SNL draft we talked about earlier.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
KT took Taylor number one.

Speaker 8 (01:03:13):
I took Travis and Jason both in the fifth and
sixth round, I believe, so I think it really helps
my chances in this SNL draft. We'll talk about that
more tomorrow, as it's been a breaking news story today,
big celebrities getting married. But we're right in the middle
of talking Dallas Cowboys, the docu series on Netflix and
episode six and with more.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Here's KT, all right, So now it's we know that,
you know, Barry and Troy aren't getting along at all.
Here are the reports, says Troy trying to get Barry
Switzer fired. And I had no idea that this was
happening in that season.

Speaker 15 (01:03:47):
A lot of players last in, everybody who was critical
of Barry Switzer.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
But they are actually talking about.

Speaker 15 (01:03:54):
Because Ekman was the main guy that was feeding everybody
the anti Switcher story.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
And when I first asked Troy Aboutwitcher and said is
he a good coach? As answer was uh.

Speaker 10 (01:04:05):
They complained about both practices, lack of intensity, mental mistakes.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Perhaps Barry Switzer needs to be more like his predecessor.

Speaker 6 (01:04:13):
You got so many within the Cowboys organization who really
believed that Troy was doing everything in his power behind
the scenes to get very fired.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
I don't think a lot of his teammates appreciate.

Speaker 17 (01:04:26):
Damn it.

Speaker 12 (01:04:27):
Before it was us against the world, and now against
us was inside our locker room.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
That's tough. That's Jerry Jones's fault.

Speaker 7 (01:04:38):
Yeah, you ran off Jimmy, the best coach in the
league who was on back to back Super Bowls and
brought in a circus clown.

Speaker 9 (01:04:46):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Here is a legendary Troy Aikman rant.

Speaker 16 (01:04:50):
Tired being a guy who's got a run down.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Everybody's damn throw it all the time.

Speaker 16 (01:04:53):
When do we have a coach he gets over there
and does something about him, watbody on the head and.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Shot him all night guy, nobody says anything about him.
Head coach want say anything about it?

Speaker 4 (01:05:04):
We got coaches offense.

Speaker 15 (01:05:04):
We won't do anything about it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
I mean enough to know. I think Troy was like,
you know, like on a comedy actor tries to do
a drama movie and it just kind of makes you uncomfortable.
He was casted perfectly with Jimmy being the bad guy,
and he could go in the huddle, he says his nuggery,
doesn't worry about what he's saying. You know, he could
be the good cop, and then now he's got to
go be the bad guy, and it's like, I don't
like seeing my funny guy in a drama babe.

Speaker 7 (01:05:29):
And keep in mind, he's like the best quarterback on
the planet at this time. Also, yeah, right, there's nobody
like touching him. This is an era where they put
a lot of value in QBR. You know, I know
things change and stats change, but QBR was a huge
stat and Troy was always like at the very top
of that because he was so incredibly accurate, didn't really

(01:05:51):
throw interceptions.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
And Steve Young is really good, just won the Super
Bowl and far that's when he won his first MVP.
I believe was that year? Is that right year? So
I think it was that year, And but either way,
and keep in mind with the cream of the crop.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:06:05):
His but his thing was he didn't really care about
stats or anything, and they had so much balance. He
was doing all that phenomenal quarterbacking while they had the
greatest rusher in the history of the NFL. Yeah, and
they were winning a lot of games and just running
the ball at the very end too.

Speaker 8 (01:06:20):
And you know, the stat people always through out there
was that John Elway had more comeback victories than anybody
in NFL history.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
And Trow's like, well, we're never behind.

Speaker 8 (01:06:29):
It's nice to be in the lead. Yeah, we're in
the lead because you know, we go kick ass from
the start.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
I didn't think I'm going back to the last quip
where Chris Collinsworth is talking and he's like, I asked
Troy his switcher, good coach, and Troy just went uh
And I was like, and that kind of what Troy
he always kind of sounds like though, Uh, okay, so
this is uh, they're going to a playoff game and
this is gonna be Cowboys and Packers, Okay. And Jimmy

(01:06:58):
Johnson works for Fox Pull there's some good John Madden
and Pat summerle here just making some noises, But the
whole thing is the game, once again overshadowed before the game,
Jimmy's like, I'm gonna go walk on the field and
address Jerry. He was more than Jess a head coach.
After these guys glow about Switzer, hold up, he was
more than Jess a head coach. I saw him for

(01:07:20):
who he was.

Speaker 12 (01:07:21):
You getting to know Barry, It's impossible not.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
To like Jimmy.

Speaker 10 (01:07:24):
This ought to be a pretty exciting championship matchup, not
only because of those squads, but because you're headed back
down to Texas Steven as well.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
But again, the whole boy is indeed right?

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
Or why do you see this? Well?

Speaker 17 (01:07:33):
I get to see some old friends back in Dallas,
And when I say old friends, I'm talking about a
lot of the players and.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
The coaches, and it really will be an exciting ball game.

Speaker 7 (01:07:43):
The ownership.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Is he going towards Jerry?

Speaker 6 (01:07:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
Yeah, Yeah, there's Jerry right down to fifteen.

Speaker 6 (01:07:50):
You just can't break a run when somebody looks like
their baptist futures.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Madden finished, Did you do you remember this?

Speaker 10 (01:08:03):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:08:04):
I didn't remember this either, and it's the so I
don't know. This is the first time they've seen each other.
It sounds like, yeah, the first time you've seen each other.
For it, it's this big game. Jimmy's there to call
it right or in the pre game, and uh, Jerry's
you know, talking to one of the sideline doing his thing,
and Jimmy didn't hide from him. He walks directly takes
up bee line, dude, and it's like, Jerry, It's like, come,

(01:08:26):
I mean, it is intense. It got summer roll in
Madden like doing it. I get to play by play.

Speaker 18 (01:08:31):
That's actually here, that's actually on the tube. This is
yes them okay, real close to getting shot.

Speaker 6 (01:08:45):
Mad guys.

Speaker 9 (01:08:46):
And he doesn't want to minute.

Speaker 15 (01:08:47):
Like, I like Jimmy, but I don't know why Jimmy
did play hide Jerry. This shouldn't have happened.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Then I'll tell you why I did it. Because Terry
Ratshaw and all the people at Fox are like, let's go. Yeah,
you will put it on.

Speaker 8 (01:09:00):
TV because it's a bunch of jocks. Great, Yeah, this
is exactly why it happened. And you know, I think, like,
obviously this is such a big story about ego and
all these things. But man, Jimmy did a lot to
provoke this. Yeah, Jimmy did.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
Jimmy.

Speaker 8 (01:09:17):
To me, it's like Jerry's in charge, so he's ultimately
to blame, But Jimmy did just as much to create
an environment where Jerry's like, FU, if you're gonna treat
me like that, you're out.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
An I say, say, I feel I think less about
Jerry and Jimmy before this documentary started. And I think
there's a lot of people you're here to talk about
this and they're calling it a puff peas and all
that stuff, and I just don't think it's that way.
If you're I don't know, I think you gotta work
hard to really not see Jerry in a different light here,

(01:09:48):
And I mean like a worse light.

Speaker 11 (01:09:50):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
The business stuff, yeah great, look what he did the
NFL awesome, But like.

Speaker 7 (01:09:53):
The only punch is pulled is the womanizing stuff. Yeah,
it's a lot of time on that. Yeah, they didn't
touch that. That's the only punch I've seen pulled. Legitimate
child or the you know, the pictures from a bathroom
or whatever, those little uh the way, they didn't have
spent time of that, but they're not pulling other punches.

Speaker 8 (01:10:10):
Yeah, they had a great look for him, but also like,
I mean, he's eighty something years old. Yeah, this has
all been so public for so long. Yeah, last one here,
this is Super Bowl thirty. The week of Super Bowl
thirty got the Steelers, and uh, you're going to get
some more Troy allegations the week of the super Bowl and.

Speaker 16 (01:10:31):
The week of the Super Bowl. As a writer who
wants to be famous, controversy.

Speaker 18 (01:10:36):
At the Super Bowl whether Cowboys quarterback Glory Hacheman is
a racer.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
The Fort Worth Star Telegram reported an incident.

Speaker 10 (01:10:45):
The racist allegations against Troy wasn't public knowledge until they
went to the Super Bowl. We all thought of that
season was incredibly difficult without knowing that one.

Speaker 15 (01:10:55):
According to one teammate, take minus holding Switzer accountable for
failing to squash the aley to give.

Speaker 10 (01:11:01):
Credibility to accusations that your quarterback is a racist?

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
Like what could be worse than that? Which is why
the story became so big. We've been dealing with that
Troy at the first of Swiss stuff in put the
past two months.

Speaker 12 (01:11:16):
We love Troy, but it don't need none of that
boy yet.

Speaker 10 (01:11:20):
When asked if he felt issue for resolved with Spriitzer,
Ann replied.

Speaker 16 (01:11:25):
I haven't talked to Barry too much, so I don't know,
we just didn't talk.

Speaker 15 (01:11:30):
The biggest regret I haven't the Cowboys was my relationship
with Toy Dude.

Speaker 7 (01:11:34):
I don't know how he didn't see that coming. You're
the head coach of an NFL team, you have one
of the best quarterbacks. How can you expect that to
work out if you are at odds with your quarterback? Yeah,
I like, say, you Jos, you're accusing him of being
a racist, But you know what else?

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
Man won the Super Bowl.

Speaker 8 (01:11:51):
And the other thing I would say is I'm willing
to bet we who knows, But there's no way Barry
Switzer was following the NFL for the five years, like
he does know what's going on in the league, but
he literally doesn't. Man, that is really inspired musical choice. Yes, like,
really well done.

Speaker 12 (01:12:08):
Man.

Speaker 8 (01:12:08):
You're talking about a band that crumbled from within because
of infighting, and you know that's really great stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
I think the thing I'd add no is like in
the episode from were reviews with this yesterday, you get
all that the players are mad. If the clips from
Michael Evering going, if Jimmy's going, I'm out, Troy talking
about I wouldn't have sign an eight year deal to
be here if I knew that was gonna happen. And
then by the time you get to the season that
they win the Super Bowl, every player besides Troy likes

(01:12:36):
Barry Switzer. They're all saying great things about it because
he lets them do whatever they want to do.

Speaker 7 (01:12:41):
Aikman's the only one who's working his ass off all
the time and staying out of trouble.

Speaker 8 (01:12:45):
And keep in mind, too, they win the Super Bowl,
they don't know what the future holds. Sure they still
think we won three super Bowls in four years. They
don't realize there's not a guy in that room that
realizes they're never going back to the NFC Championship ever again.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Yeah, tomorrow we will review Cocaine Cowboy. Oh good lord,
it's a wild one involving Michael Irvin and lots of
other stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:13:12):
So much fun, so much fudder. I hope you've enjoyed
the show today. I'm sure tomorrow we'll talk about little
Kelsey Taylor stuff. We'll have tickets to give away more Cowboys.
So much fun every day. I'll never forget the time
KT look Travis Kelsey dead in his eye, and he
said they changed things on as quick on this world,
so enjoy you every minute while.

Speaker 6 (01:13:33):
You have it.

Speaker 8 (01:13:34):
And then Travis proposed, anyways, Christina, you gonna play some music.
I am sc Christina ra is gonna stick around till
ten right here on the Eagle.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
There you going. I want to get my sock back, dude,
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