Full Show: August 27, 2025

Here's Wednesday's show, featuring a review of episode 7 of the Cowboys netflix series, plus a trip to the wayback machine featuring KT's AI skills.  Also, how concerned should you be about the new flesh eating parasite that's fast approaching Texas?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh sure.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
With with ahing with I show, you're gonna wing it
you except for similar to me pursuing it.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Hold out shaw shaking through the sewer. Dude, Now what
chilling that day? People?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yeah, be doing it through your clocking on the dock.
Got a habit for my house or go sat is
how we're starting to getting Crattit shows that enough multiply
like a rabbit do then so out crank it up,
beat the habit.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
I'm on a hang out with our friends blocking it
on the radio.

Speaker 5 (00:44):
My boy's getting in his hand.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Talking on the radio. It's come to to this fall
to get in all baby Katie to steaming up and
see it. Ah, yes alone to welcome everybody. It is
a glorious hump day right here on the Ben and
Skin Show ninety seven point one The Eagle. I'm Ben Rodgers,

(01:10):
joined by Jep Skin Wade, Kevin kt Turner and Christina
Krey Little Baby Cornbread Ray from Oatmeal Pizza. All hands
on deck today in studio for what's going to be
a fun presentation and I'm going to get this party
started right off the rip today with some incredible audio.
It's just going to set the tone and it's just
going to kind of let you know what you're in

(01:31):
for today as you tune into the dumbest show in America.
And I'm going to start with a British news lady.
I just want to get this thing started on with
the right tone. And this is a lady who might
or might not be using a phrase wrong.

Speaker 6 (01:43):
You are you?

Speaker 7 (01:44):
I mean you may go this apparent all American hero.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Don't want to spoil the plots, but you're not a
conventional hero. It seems sure.

Speaker 8 (01:53):
This is you as an all American and a big
opportunity for you in hollywoods.

Speaker 7 (01:59):
You must have had to eat off a lot of
American men to get this part. W does that?

Speaker 5 (02:08):
Did you not have to beat them all?

Speaker 7 (02:11):
The role that was imagine there was a few minutes
for the role as well.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
They were they were.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
And compose yourself.

Speaker 9 (02:22):
I okay, why they're not some other Americans up for
this role?

Speaker 3 (02:28):
I guess they were.

Speaker 7 (02:29):
When I sat down with the director.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
I didn't know the difference in off and out.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
She clearly didn't because she's like, wait, why where are
you all laughing?

Speaker 3 (02:37):
It's probably just a phrase that we use here that
they don't use over there. She how did she look great?
That changes the clip?

Speaker 10 (02:47):
What?

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, I don't know if that helps. It is that
the Daniel Cornynworth guy that I'm David corn sweat.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
Okay, I thought the same thing though. They're talking to superheroes.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, and all the Americans that had to be beaten
out in order to get that role. You had to
be out the American man.

Speaker 5 (03:06):
Now, all the men.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
She either revealed that she's comfortable saying that, or she
revealed that she doesn't really know what the phrase means.
But I've got some other cases where people reveal something,
and this is one where it's a lady talking to
a reporter. The reporters out in the street talking to
this lady, let me figure out what happened here at
the scene of whatever this news story is. And this
lady swerves way out of the way to include some

(03:30):
pretty crazy facts.

Speaker 11 (03:31):
Oh, the police wouldn't let me go to through one
hundred and twenty seconds, so I had to go around
one hundred and nineteenth and go and I was They
let me look at the lawyer's building. I know the
vacuum cleaner man. You've seen my tam.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
I know that's not going on it's true.

Speaker 5 (03:52):
It's true.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
I'm not here to lie to you.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
So for vacuum cleaner man, she says she's getting told
her about over by the vacuum cleaner man. He's seen
my blank her up tops. Yeah, why is the she
needs to provide some contexts? I hear that again. I mean, listen,
how random it is that she she's saying the word

(04:17):
that rhymes with hits and.

Speaker 11 (04:19):
Go and I was they let me look at the
lawyer's building. I know, the vacuum cleaner man, he's seen my.
I know that's not going on.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
What is even happening here? By the way, what is
she describing bred? It's the did raisin bread, it's the
I hate.

Speaker 5 (04:44):
Definitely can't see.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
That was a live radio Yeah, yeah, what is she
describing here? What are the police letting her?

Speaker 6 (04:52):
Do?

Speaker 5 (04:53):
Just want more context? Vacuum cleaner what?

Speaker 12 (04:57):
How?

Speaker 5 (04:57):
Why?

Speaker 3 (04:58):
It's important just to know that he's seen him? And
and what if that's really not what he does? It's
just a nickname, the dirt devil.

Speaker 13 (05:05):
Okay, Now, this last one is a guy who was
due a cooking show.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
It's a pretty standard cooking show, and he's cooking pasta
and he's trying to tell the audience how to make
the pasta and all that, but just to kill time,
he kind of goes off road and starts telling a
revealing story. We're just going to take our pasta and
put it in the pot.

Speaker 14 (05:31):
What we're gonna do is if you just wait, like
you know, five seconds, it's going to soften. Sometimes you
got to help it along a little bit, and you
always want to keep track of which side was sticking
out because at the end we're going to compensate. I
remember when I was a kid growing up, my friend

(05:52):
Justin and I wanted to make a roller coaster. So
we started saving money by putting our lunch money in
a shoe box, and about six months we had a
couple hundred dollars in there.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
But it turns out that my friend.

Speaker 10 (06:03):
Justin's sister's boyfriend had found the shoe box and he
stole the money to pay for an abortion.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Okay, this is looking just about ready.

Speaker 5 (06:14):
Okay, I stole the process a few months ago.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
I forgot.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
Because I was like, why.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Forever to get there too? It looks like it's just
about ready. You're gonna build a roller coaster too.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
To make sure one's really paying attention.

Speaker 10 (06:32):
Okay, this is looking just about ready.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Okay, the obvious question who is the abortion for? Because
we need more of that. I mean, there's an assumption
it's the sister. But this guy can't be trusted. He's
stealing money from little kids trying to build roller coasters.

Speaker 13 (06:49):
This is probably cooking shows is because it takes time
to cook these. Let's do a quick story about the
roller coasters.

Speaker 10 (06:55):
I remember when I was a kid growing up, my
friend Justin and I wanted to make a roller coat. Sure,
so we started saving money by putting our lunch money
in a shoe box.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Man.

Speaker 10 (07:05):
After about six months we had a couple hundred dollars
in there. But it turns out that my friend Justin's
sister's boyfriend had found the shoe box and he stole
the money to pay for an abortion.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Okay, this is looking just about ready. Watch that show
every Day that I got right, So much better than
the Hell's Kitchen guy that yelling at everybody what you
had for lunch? When if he was used as lunch money.
All right, we were off and running. It's going to

(07:37):
be a great show. Where are you going to take
us next? And thing skin is tracking.

Speaker 9 (07:40):
Man.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yesterday, Ben, we had to do something bold and exciting
but also very scary. And I'll give you the details,
all right, edition of Thank You, Thank You, America, Thank You.
I've mentioned this to you guys. Yesterday, me and my

(08:04):
wife and my daughter Maya loaded up the car, took
her to DFW Airport, went to Terminal D the international airport,
and got her on a plane headed to Italy. How
about that for three weeks? This is now. I remember

(08:25):
being a certain agent thinking at twenty I knew everything
that was good. But man, I've seen her get lost
in Plano. So is this like vacation studying abroad? So
it's a combination. So my daughter, you know, she didn't
go to college. She went into the workforce, and she's

(08:45):
saved up a ton of money. She got into apartment leasing,
and he was kicking ass on it. She was kicking ass,
was getting promotions all this stuff. And you know, it's
hard when you're eighteen nineteen years old and you're working
six days a week and your friends are partying at college. Right,
And so she had taken a job at a place
and I felt like they had misled her, and I

(09:09):
was I'm pretty big on no, no, no. You made
a commitment, you gotta grind it out. You got a
worst case scenario, give two weeks. You're not leaving until
you find a new job. But when I saw what
this company was doing and asking of her, I was like,
I got no problem with you bouncing turn in your
two weeks. She'd saved up a bunch of money and

(09:29):
her best friend is going to fashion school in Milan,
so she was like, I can go. I've saved all
this money up, I can go live in Italy with
my friend for three months. I went three months. Why
don't we dip our toe in the water first and
see what the temperature of the water is before we
just do the plunge, right, Yeah, So we agreed that

(09:50):
she would go there and live with her friend for
three weeks. But even still, man, I know she's twenty,
but in my mind she is still just a little girl,
you know. And that was I didn't want to be
the overly protective dad. But at the same time, I'm scared. Yeah,
and you you should be. And you don't own a

(10:11):
particular set of skills either. I don't. So if chaos happens,
you can't Liam Neeson this thing. I'll call you dog
basketball talk. Okay, I have a particular set of basketball
talk skills. I will call you and talk to you
about the Milwaukee Bucks until you kill yourself. Well we'll
that get her out of a jam, all right, listen
to the schedule. So she's there. She's already sent us

(10:32):
a video from where she's staying.

Speaker 15 (10:34):
Good.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
You know, coming back, buddy, she went to Italy to
tell us about it.

Speaker 13 (10:37):
You ain't gonna want to come back, Christina can tell
you about it. Yeah, it's just gonna want to stay forever.
It's gorgeous. I didn't want to come back. But also
I'm like proud of her.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
She's brave to go there with just her and her
friends because if I didn't have Mike, and like, we
went with his brother and all them, and they did
all the navigating and stuff. So I literally just ate
and drank the whole time. Okay, So thinking about that
part and the money and like, it's a completely different.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
World over there, but it is gorgeous.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
So here's why I got a little more comfortable with it.
So her best friend's dad is from Italy. Oh and
so they live in Allen, but he's like international businessman,
and so she is staying at her best friend's aunt's
house today. And so the way they have this worked
out like they have a home base where she can

(11:25):
keep all her luggage and stuff, and then they'll go
to a beach town for three days and then come back,
and then they take constantly rotating yes, Wow, And then
they take a train to Rome for three days and
then they come back, and then halfway through the dad
has business there, so he shows up and he's going
to take him to dinner a few times. And so
it changed the way I felt about it, But still

(11:48):
I'm not joking. We are one month removed from her
getting lost in Plano, and we've talked about this before
on the show even, but it's like for the younger generation,
and they have no idea about directions, they don't know
street names, they don't know what part of town they
live in. They just punch it into a thing and
they go and if there's bad cell reception or whatever,

(12:11):
they're suddenly lost and they're no longer on the planet.
They're just screwed. And so I'm just like, Okay, she
can do this, and I want to be confident, you know,
and build her up and let her go take on
the world and all those things. But dude, it's it's overwhelming. Yeah,
it's over I can't imagine. That's very scary, but it's yeah.

(12:35):
I can't even put myself in that position to think
about it, just because I've seen Liam Neeson come to
the rescue so many times. Did that take place in Italy? No,
I don't think so. Oh then she's.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
Fine, Yeah, she'll be okay.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Really, when I hear about Italy from them, it sounds
like the only thing negative about it is you miss
American pizza. Definitely don't ruins it.

Speaker 5 (12:58):
I am worried. Like Catie said, she I may never
want to come back.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
I mean, but you know what, to me, it's like
if she determines I want to go because original she
was like, Oh, I can go get a job as
an O pair over there. I was like, You've never
done that. You don't speak Italian. Why don't you just
go look around for a few weeks and then see,
you know, why, just get up and move for three months.
That's the other thing about youth, man, you make some

(13:24):
wild ass decisions with no context, you know, so Anyways,
she just turned twenty like a month ago. Okay, this
is right around the time you and I dropped out
of college to be rappers. Exactly. Why not stay in
college and just see if you can wrap? Why do
you have to drop out completely?

Speaker 13 (13:44):
What?

Speaker 3 (13:44):
All right? Oh? Oh god, good lord. Anyways, I'll give
you guys updates because she going to be gone for
three weeks.

Speaker 5 (13:52):
Excited for her.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
I'm excited for he too. She'll have fun, all right.
Coming up next it's the Hollywood Shuffle, which celebrity his
dad has gone buck wild. We'll tell you next. Earlier today,
Micah Parsons was spotted at DFW Airport and that's odd,
just going through the normal, you know, security checkpoint like
anybody else. And so people were starting to speculate, all right,

(14:16):
is he is this a packers thing? Is he on
his way to the packers for whatever reason? That rumor's
out there, and we'll get into it in a bit.
Jane Slater tweeted, No, he's not headed to Cabo. I'm
told Micah Parsons is getting a second opinion on his
back per source.

Speaker 13 (14:31):
So that's that's interesting to me because this is a
good way to get out of getting fined.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Right, you're not gonna get fined. You're not gonna play.
You got another you got some other doctors like yoh yeah,
he could have a back issue. Thank you. I'm sitting out. Yeah,
go a doctor's note. But he's getting twenty four million
dollars this year to play. Doesn't he owe it to
them to play for twenty four million dollars? I don't
think any NFL player owes an NFL owner a damn thing. Well,

(14:59):
then why should he get paid for that game? Like,
if you're getting twenty four million dollars per season, if
you just set out whenever you want, because you would,
it's not as much money as you wanted, why should
they have to pay him anything? Yeah?

Speaker 13 (15:11):
No, I this is this is why this is very
tense right now, you got it? Well, got a legitimis
point of view is you were here and under contract.
Remember when Dad did this, like Dak did the right thing.
You are not doing the right thing right now. Yeah,
it's a fake injury. Everyone knows it's fake.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (15:29):
I get a doctor's note here though, and then you're
gonna the you know, what are the rules here? The
NFL Players Association with look, he's got the doctor's note.
What do you want saying? We're lying, it's just gross.
Sign him and go beat the Eagles next week. That's
the mindset of champions.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Oh yeah, thank you Kevin for that. The warrior spirit
is We're gonna go beat the Eagles next week. Dude said,
It's like if this was ninety six and we had Switzer.

Speaker 13 (15:54):
You know what I'm saying, Dude, what do you do
when Jalen hurts us out there?

Speaker 3 (15:58):
You just got a fold? All right, man, Kat's favorite
restaurant is back in the news. More cracker barrel news
coming your way. But right now it's time for this.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
News.

Speaker 13 (16:09):
Hot God, every stay on the top in the shove
the big story of yesterday. And I would just like
to say I'm proud of us for zagging. When the
world zigged, We zagged. Yeah, we did not hit on
the Travis Kelce Taylor Swift engagement.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah, a little bit much. We talked about a little
touch run.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
There was a local news station that did a complete
like back and forth with their female anchors. I'm like,
this is not good television, guys, is not good.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
They're just they're figuring they can tap into a massive audience.

Speaker 13 (16:46):
It's like playing Christmas songs at Christmas time. Sure good
for the ratings. Yeah, I always wonder, Oh yeah, what
if I'm just a bunch of stations, like you don't
want to drop my format like a month and just
see if it works.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
What if every station played Christmas music in every station
was nonumber one. Oh my god, what if us as
a talk show we just saying Christmas girls all.

Speaker 13 (17:07):
Over here with those we had some originals. Because I've
got a lot of thoughts on the holiday season. Travis
Kelcey is his parents are Donna and Ed Kelsey. You
guys know that.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Oh yeah, Donna and Ed are not together anymore, but
they do get along. They're they're able to be in
the same uh suite.

Speaker 13 (17:29):
At Arrowhead Stadium, like they're able to be there for
each other or how long they in the room. They
were married for twenty five years. So to me, I
don't know, I don't even know.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
I'd say Ed, that's a recent divorce. Yeah, maybe, because
if you think of the age of the kids. I mean,
I could google this. I mean, when did Ed and
Donna get a divorced? I bet in the last six years, Uh,
thirteen years ago. Well see you later.

Speaker 13 (17:54):
Yeah, they probably would. He tried and Aly like Jason
Kelsey might have been in the league by then. Maybe
I don't know, you know, heart Tell. The point is, well,
now that Taylor Swift is you know, like Ed Kelsey's
viewing this all wrong because she's not coming to your family.
It's all reversed here, the roles have been reversed, and

(18:15):
what we've known forever. You are now a part of
the Swift operation. She's not in the family, she's not
your daughter in law. You are now a soldier in
her operation. Yeah, it's not going to be Taylor Kelsey.
So it's very strange that Ed Kelsey is going out
and doing a bunch of interviews today and yesterday, including

(18:37):
on Sydney's Funniest Breakfast show, The Jimmy and Nan Show.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
He's doing interviews, Oh yeah, tons of interviews in Australia.

Speaker 13 (18:46):
He did one on an Australian morning show. Yeah. He
revealed to People magazine that Travis Kelcey bought the ring
a while back. That actually did the engagement two weeks ago.
They didn't get engaged yesterday, and it was two weeks ago.
It was three days before the New Heights podcast, and
I'm seeing all this and I'm like, Ed, brother.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
You're gonna get shot. The mom will be after it.

Speaker 13 (19:10):
You are not the mouthpiece of this organization. You don't
get to talk here. I'm sorry, it's just how it is.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Ed's keeping it real. Like you think Taylor's people and
Taylor are upset about this.

Speaker 13 (19:22):
I think there's potential turbulence there. I bet we're gonna
have to get your dad in check here. I bet
they're outraged. I was talking to my wife about this yesterday.
I was like, when you're the machine that she is,
And I wasn't talking about in conjunction with Ed. I
didn't even know Ed was doing this, but we were
talking about the when it happened, and I was like, honey,
Taylor probably told him what the proposal needed to be,

(19:45):
what he needed to say. They probably had you know,
lighting range. Like, that's just not the way she operates.
She's the most calculated human on earth. She has her
next ten years mapped out. She's had this plan. She's
like Dignan from Little Rocket. It's very crazy and I
just couldn't help but think, well, Donna Kelsey is the
one who's getting State farm commercials, and everyone wants to

(20:08):
have Donna on their podcast Donna, and it's like, you
know what, now's my time. It's like, Ed, No, it's not, dude.
This is like now, more than ever, you have to
tone it down, and this is.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
The whole thing.

Speaker 13 (20:20):
Do you remember the early reports, back in the early
stages of the relationship, they are like, yeah, Taylor's kind
of not happy with some of Travis's boys, some of
his friends that he's hanging out with.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
I'm like, I honestly don't remember.

Speaker 13 (20:31):
You'll get those taken care of real quickly. This will
all get handled, right.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
His friends disappeared at that point. My prediction is we
don't hear much from Ed Kelsey moving forward. Dude, look
what happened to Rice, his teammate, Oh six games? Yeah,
I think I think Taylor was behind that. All Right,
there you have it. There's the Hollywood Shuffle coming up
at just over three minutes. It's food news, Cracker barrel caves,
and a new burger joint has one hour waits. We'll

(20:58):
talk about that coming up next.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
It's just.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
It's time.

Speaker 13 (21:09):
We'll start a local and then move on to the
national story. We're hearing that this na DC Burger down
in uptown in Dallas up to one hour wait times
since it opened on August fifteenth, so open for twelve
days now. We've talked about this two or three times
on the show. Looks amazing an hour weight time though

(21:29):
to go walk around uptown.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
I don't know about that, dude. I can't wait to
try this burger. When a guy told me at our
business in Solana that he drives to Austin to get
this burger and then comes back, and the fact that
it's a Michelin awarded chef, you know, like the highest
award you can possibly win in chef Kingdom, I'm like, okay,
I'm in. I want to try this burger. Do they

(21:53):
do you know, do they take Resi's I don't think so, man.
I think it's walk up, but I don't know if
they don't love you shortening the word.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
No, Maya's not here to keep you in check anymore.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
What I've said, Rezos, you know I respect it. Thank you.
I'm also a man who will every once while enjoy
a tasty mark Ah. Man, you know it's open from
eleven thirty ams. Hold on, Kat, I want to follow
be frozen or rocks either way, like where you're doing.
Have a problem with any margaritas and kt If liking
margaritas is gay, then sign me up. I don't want

(22:24):
to be straight. I think you're on that list. You
don't have to be signed up, man, keep me on
that list that I'm already gone. And by gay you
mean a Broadway performer. Yeah, of course you like to
have a gay old time, Yes, Kevin.

Speaker 13 (22:39):
They have one in fort Worth too, by the way,
should say off Main Street?

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Do they?

Speaker 3 (22:43):
What's been there for a while, looks like in a DC. Yeah?
What's the like there? Because it takes me forty eight
minutes to get into Fort Worth?

Speaker 13 (22:52):
I can't tell you with confidence though, no reservations. You
just show up and get your stuff.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Okay, then I'll get in Na d C Burger sometime
in early November.

Speaker 13 (23:01):
Earlier in the week, we talked about Cracker Barrel and
their decision to rebrand a little bit, getting rid of
the barrel and Uncle Herschel who's next to it, that's
his name apparently.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Yeah, they kept the barrel, they just pushed it over
on its side and put smaller font in it.

Speaker 13 (23:17):
Well, here's their tweet from about six o'clock last night,
right our showing, we thank our guests for sharing your
voices and love for Cracker Barrel. We said we would listen,
and we have. Our new logo is going away and
our old timer will remain a Cracker Barrel. It's always
been and always will be about serving up delicious food,

(23:39):
warm welcomes, and the kind of country hospitality.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
That feels like okay, hospitality that feels like family.

Speaker 13 (23:45):
I got it as a proud American institution, Crackerrel Our
seventy thousand hard working employees look forward to welcoming you,
welcoming you to our table soon.

Speaker 5 (23:56):
I had no idea what really doing.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
Who cared about any of it? Dude, it's too late.
Once it got politicized, they were cooked.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
Yeah, Soroy and I talked about this over the weekend.
It's like one person posted a TikTok video pointing at it.
I mean, like, I can't believe they trained rder durder
and then people just piled on and made it a thing.
It's just so.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Stupid, And then the President tweeted about it. I mean,
they had no choice. They literally had no choice if
they wanted to stay in business. They had to reverse course.

Speaker 5 (24:24):
I didn't know the President tweeted about it. What are
we doing?

Speaker 3 (24:27):
I had no idea they making Cracker Barrel great again?
What we're doing? I mean, look, I want to go
in there. I want to buy some like eight year
old rock hard and taffy. It just cracks, and you know,
buy a nice summer dress for my wife for nineteen
dollars while I'm waiting to have some delicious pancakes. Yeah,

(24:47):
I need to have the old white man on that
barrel counting on that. It's the only way you can
enjoy those pancakes. I love going to the Cracker Barrel
and eating the heaviest of breakfast to start my day
game into the bathroom, and then spending time in an
all wood gift shop. Okay, so that's what I wanted.

(25:09):
So for the people that were like really upset that,
you know that they made it corporate and they took
all the soul out of it, right and are so
now are they all going to flood back in there,
because it's not like they've been really busy anyway.

Speaker 13 (25:24):
We should, honestly, we should this weekend, everyone should, just
all four of us let's try to have a breakfast
at Cracker Barrel. There's one near you see what the
turnout is. I'm I'm no, it doesn't sound terrible.

Speaker 7 (25:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Cracker Barrel is not bad. It really isn't, especially if
you want chicken fried steak at nine am. But but
this is the whole thing is so insane to me
because I do not believe for a minute there's all
kinds of companies all across the land that rebrand all
the time because they're an older brand, and I don't

(25:59):
think this for a minute had anything to do with DEI.
But I think because it's big business for people to
make it about DEI for their own platforms, they're caught
up in it. I think if they, if they would
have just like the lady who made the changes, this
is targeting her, Yes, it absolutely is, and talking about

(26:20):
Garth from Wayneesworld and people are I think that I
think that woke up the mob of people who are like,
go woke, go broke, and they're like, yes, perfect, okay, good.
But if they had just rolled out some hillbilly and
suspenders and he was like this is our new logo,
no one would have had a problem. You know what
they should have done. If they really want to appease

(26:40):
the crowd, why not expose of their seventy thousand employees.
How many of them aren't legal aliens, aren't legal immigrants? Like,
they could really feed the fires if they wanted to.
I's opening up a whole cracker barrel of monkeys. Good line, Kevin,
All right, there you have it, the cracker barrel caves
and a new burger joint has one hour waits. How

(27:01):
about that? Good hour, guys, good first, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Coming up next, we're going to crank up the wayback machine.
It's a media fight. KT is ready to throw dirt
on one broadcaster and we examined Dan mcdal versus Lee
Corso that's neck. What is up with these mica to
the packers rumors? Well, we'll talk about that in about
ten minutes. But right now, let's start for this.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
OS.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
It's time to go into the schedule. Wiberg Massion.

Speaker 13 (27:30):
It is going to be a weirdly emotional Saturday morning
for some people because on college game Day, right before
Texas and Ohio State play at eleven am, it will
be the last appearance of ninety year old Lee Corso can.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Ask one quick question, why would you have Ohio State
and Texas play at eleven am. It's the most important game,
it's one of the biggest games of the whole season.
You're starting off with it. Why wouldn't it be in
prime time?

Speaker 13 (27:56):
Fox spotted so big noon kickoff. I believe that would
be my that's my guess.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Isn't it ABC that gets to have the night thing?

Speaker 9 (28:04):
No?

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Fox has some night games too.

Speaker 13 (28:06):
They get some night games too, but their whole thing
is big noon kickoff, which is eleven o'clock here. Yeah, okay,
I believe that game is on Yeah, that game's on Fox.
So that's part of Fox got the big ten rights
and all that stuff, and they've you know, they've got
they get big games like that. Now, it is weird
that's happening at eleven though. You'd love to have that
game at night, but start the season off three Verse

(28:26):
number one, Good God, that's gonna be great.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Incredible point is League Corso though?

Speaker 13 (28:30):
On college game Day if you don't know who that is,
he's the old guy who at the end of college
game Day when they have their guest celebrity picker on,
he puts on a mascotthead to pick whatever game they're at.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
It's really, honestly, it's a great bit. I thought he
retired five years ago.

Speaker 13 (28:44):
Well they've had to scalp back because he can't make
words very well anymore. But I was said to be
as cynical about it as you want. ESPN put this
thing out there, and it's a little special on him.
And it's all these people who are just bawling about
how much Lee Corso is it to them?

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Dude, crazy, I get sent it. It's very strange. I
get it. Dick Vital whips my ass to no end.
But he is a legend, and he exploded college basketball
in the eighties his presence.

Speaker 13 (29:11):
The first thing I do is play just an old
classic Corso clip when he's got the kid from Talladega
Nights up there picking games.

Speaker 5 (29:17):
Yeh, couple of dogs.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yoost so fast?

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Ridge?

Speaker 5 (29:23):
Not so fast it?

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yeah, okay, hey, not so fast?

Speaker 10 (29:27):
I go.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
I go with Harvard. What's the matter, I'm gonna go
with They all laughing so good. Cracker Barrel should have
put him on their logo.

Speaker 13 (29:39):
Hey, dude, he might need to be the next Herschel
for sure. But so back in the day. A long
time ago, there was an interview on a station in
town called The Ticket, and it was on a show
called Bad Radio. And it's Bob sterm and Dan McDowell.
Dan McDowell now hosts the Dumb Zone podcast and uh,
Lee Corso is stopping by and this inter out there

(30:00):
public domain. I mean I found it online easily, but
I was like, let's not play that. Let's let's trick
it up a little bit. So this is a legendary
fight between Lee Corso and Dan McDowell.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
In this interview.

Speaker 13 (30:14):
Dan mcdowe will be the Australian one, okay, and you'll
hear Bob come in for a reset in the middle
of this fight.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
All right.

Speaker 16 (30:21):
Bert Reynolds was the leading movie star in the world
five straight years.

Speaker 7 (30:26):
Not a lot of people know this, but Lee Corso
was actually the second person to pose nude. Correct or
did I read that wrong?

Speaker 16 (30:34):
I won't even give you the next question. I think
that was very sarcastic and I don't appreciate it. And
I'm not kidding really, yeah, because why would you say that?

Speaker 7 (30:48):
Because it's somewhat funny.

Speaker 16 (30:49):
No, it's not funny at all. In fact, the really
the people out there that don't know me might think,
what kind of jerk is this guy?

Speaker 7 (30:58):
What don't you think most people listening might know me.

Speaker 16 (31:01):
They probably think you're jerk. You are a jerk. I
am on your show to try to help you.

Speaker 7 (31:07):
We're having fun here. No, you're telling us funny stories
about Burt Reynolds, and now all of a sudden, I'm
a big jerk.

Speaker 16 (31:13):
No, you are a big jerk because of the fact
you take a shot at me a show. Yes, because
you inferred to the fact that I pose naked, And
how's that a shot? Because that's against what I would
do and.

Speaker 7 (31:27):
It's not a joke, then wouldn't that be the irony
of the whole situation?

Speaker 16 (31:31):
Not to me?

Speaker 7 (31:32):
Leek also certainly wouldn't do that. Burt Reynolds would. But
just don't really understand where this is coming from here.

Speaker 16 (31:38):
Well, it's your show, all.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
Right, This is Lee Corso with us. I think he
was joking. Coach.

Speaker 16 (31:43):
Well, I don't appreciate people taking shots and joking at
my expense when I don't do that to anybody else.

Speaker 7 (31:51):
And that's real silly. I don't think that you should
be offended at all. Okay, and I thought we were
sitting here laughing and having a good time.

Speaker 16 (31:58):
Well, not had my expense.

Speaker 7 (32:01):
I really don't understand how you would say it was
at your expense.

Speaker 16 (32:04):
Either, because of the fact that you inferred to the
people out there who don't know me that I would
pose naked and do something like that.

Speaker 7 (32:12):
Oh nice, I should just thank you for stopping by, then.

Speaker 16 (32:15):
Say thank you very much.

Speaker 7 (32:17):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 16 (32:18):
Okay, my pleasure, that's all right.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Very stupid. Oh my god, it's so good. I wish
McDowell was Australian that would change the way sports radio
forever was wildly advanced. And one was like, really like, yeah,
well that's because Corso's old.

Speaker 13 (32:41):
That's why I did that. I had a couple of versions.
He sounds too young in these and.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
He misused the word inferred like three times in there.
It's so good, fantastic work. Kevin Turner, Kevin Turner, my
guy in Dallas and ninety some point one the Eagle
a flesh eating screw or or miss coming for that ass.
We got the details at the bottom of the hour,
but right now it's time for this. Now is around

(33:09):
the sports KGD tweets has all the Sports.

Speaker 13 (33:14):
Yes, there's a guy on Twitter. His name's Ricky Scoops
and uh, he is not. It's very weird because he
puts out a lot of trade rumors and sometimes he
hits on him, and sometimes it's so specific you're like, Okay,
he called this ten days ago, and it's the specific
contract numbers that he said. It's not just some guy guessing.

(33:36):
He has some connections and he had dabbled around with
the idea that Micah might get traded to the Packers.
Here's what he tweeted last night. I'd say, yesterday afternoon, the.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Packers have a trade on the table with the Cowboys
from Michael Parsons with a new contract worth forty five
million dollars per year. What are those numbers again? Forty
five million dollars per year for how many years? Does
I say? Doesn't say okay, hey, he's saying the Cowboys
have that on the table.

Speaker 13 (34:01):
Now, that's what this guy says. This guy's been wrong
many times too. No one ever talks about it when
he's wrong. They only talk about it.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
When he's right. Jerry said that the and I don't
I guess this was the Michael Irvin thing I saw
this on that they offered Micah the most guaranteed money
of any non quarterback in football.

Speaker 13 (34:20):
I mean, which forty would get you there too, so
not forty five. It doesn't sound like something green Bay
would do either. Green Bay is very pretty protective of
their salary cap. They don't do a lot of free
agent moves and things like that. It would be very
aggressive and strange if they did that. I will to
say green Bay did push out their president who is
the owner, because he's seventy and they have a rule

(34:41):
you once you're seventy.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
They get a new guy. Oh my god.

Speaker 13 (34:44):
The guy they elected is Ed Policy, the son of
Carmen Policy, who is featured heavily in the Cowboys documentary.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
So they are dunking all over the way that we
do our elections well.

Speaker 13 (34:55):
And also they're kind of Ed Policy who sent Jerry
Charles back in the day like it is I mean,
his dad did it, like it is kind of interesting. Yeah,
I mean this would be like, this would put green
Bay over the top if they got Michael Parsons.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
This is the Charles Hailey trade in reverse. But the
draft picks that is fascinating. The draft picks wouldn't be
good because they're going to be a contender. They're gonna
be late first round picks, right, So what do they
have anything else? They have a ridiculous depth at any
position where they could spice it up with a young player.

Speaker 13 (35:28):
Offensive line wide receiver, not so much on defense. Off,
it's a line wide receiver. I don't want your wide receivers.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Bro. We have a bunch of good ones. I'm good.
Off it's line starting tack Well, I can do that
for you. They have three starting tackles. Okay, but you
guys got to take Terrence Steel back.

Speaker 7 (35:47):
He's good.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
He needs to get figured out here. Uh so, yeah,
I don't know. Do you get what is your gut instinct? No,
that's not gonna happen. Okay, that's my gut instinct. Now,
So what do you make of him? Micah leaving a
deal w Airport today and Jane Slater said he's going
off to get a second opinion on his back.

Speaker 13 (36:04):
Gotta go get a doctor's note because he doesn't want
to be around for practice today.

Speaker 7 (36:08):
Maybe tomorrow, well.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Till friday, till friday. Okay, what is your dong instea?

Speaker 12 (36:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (36:13):
Then I don't know what he's doing, then maybe his
back's really messed up. I mean, dude, your back would
be messed up if you laid on the training table
that way.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Yeah, it was the worst posture an he got him
that he strained his back was bad. It's just actively
acting like a ten year old. It just goes to
a new level. If he will not play for the
twenty four million he's supposed to make this year. If
he refuses to play and fakes an injury, then this
is way worse than anyone ever imagined.

Speaker 13 (36:41):
Yeah, and this is what the Cowboys want. The Cowboys
want you to come to their side of Oh, Mike
is being a little baby on the sideline and he
doesn't want to. I just I can't get there here,
because they could have done this deal a long ass
time ago when Michael was making comments he last for
the year, pay pay for this much, you guys can
sign some more players, like Michael knows how the league works,

(37:02):
and not saying he's a savvy businessman, but he knows
how it works.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
They definitely botched it. But he's under contract this year
to play, and he's gonna play well if he's trying
to fake this back injury. Even further, I don't think he.

Speaker 13 (37:15):
Is, which you know, that could be a yeah, that
could be the next I would love to have five
minutes room with David Mulgoletta and be like, hey, David,
I know your name. Jerry Jones says he doesn't know
your name, so we can talk now, David Mogoletta. I
would if he would just lay out their strategy here.
I'm I love to know what that is because we

(37:36):
know what Jerry's move is. I have leverage. I don't
have to do anything. I can just sit here. They're
gonna lose games.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
They're gonna lose.

Speaker 13 (37:43):
Games with Micah probably so, like were talking about Opening Night,
no one's giving the Cowboys a chance to win Opening Night.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
I absolutely think they could win on Opening Night. I
think you're going undefeated.

Speaker 13 (37:52):
Me great if Michael was there for that. I do
think they're gonna make the playoffs. I really do.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
But I I just don't understand why we're not trying to.

Speaker 13 (38:01):
When you watch episode eight of this documentary that we'll
discuss tomorrow, that part of it tomorrow, it's even more
frustrating because it's like you're saying, how bad you want
to win it, and you don't follow up those actions,
so that meaning I can never believe a thing you
say ever, and it makes you get a little more
excited for when Steven runs things because I think you'll
do it right.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
You know what's interesting is in that previous episode where
Aikman says that he Jerry was learning football on his watch,
I think you can make the argument that he never
actually learned it. Maybe not, Like they're kind of just
doing the same crap over and over. So none of
this is good news. Also bad news for the Rangers
if all the is out for the rest of the year.

(38:42):
Some people say maybe he could come back for the
World Series or whatever. Maybe it's regardless. He was on
his way to potentially win in the cy Young. It
absolutely sucks and it breaks my heart that they couldn't
get their offense going this year because I really feel
like this is the end of the road for this team.
Like you already want a championship. That's great, but at

(39:04):
some point, I hate to say it, but some of
these contracts are starting to look untradeable and you're painted
into a corner with guys who are getting older and
who are making a ton of money. And you got
over the hump that one time with them. But eventually
the Rangers are gonna go back to their old ways
and say cut payroll, cut payroll, cut payroll. And I

(39:26):
think it's about to be bad for the Rangers for
like a long time. How many more years does de
Gram have?

Speaker 13 (39:33):
Uh, it's only one two more years, two more after
this twenty three years you were resigning. Interesting, Evaldi has
two more years left. So hypothetically you could talk yourself
into I've got de Grom and Evaldi for two more years.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
I have Seeger and Simeon. We're gonna keep going. I
think I forge ahead. I get that, But I think
the smarter thing to do, especially if your payroll is
gonna get squeezed, would be to trade any of those guys.
You can get picks and rebuild and the wild card
here man only about four and a half games out
co many are left six twenty eight games? Yep, yep.

Speaker 13 (40:04):
I think Newburger today, can they win nineteen of twenty eight?
Absolutely they can.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
They can. They haven't really exhibited that they would be
able to do that this year, but they can. All Right,
there you have it. There's around the sports coming up.
Next in the weekly weekday update, the flesh eating parasite
that's on its way to Texas. You need to know
about this. It's next.

Speaker 8 (40:22):
Are you excited?

Speaker 3 (40:24):
And he gets.

Speaker 15 (40:28):
Day featuring veteran news anchor kt fun tweets we's go
out to NBC five and they're handsome.

Speaker 13 (40:37):
Anchor Brian Curtis with a story that should terrify you.

Speaker 17 (40:41):
The first human case of the flesh eating screwworm parasite
has been confirmed in the US. Federal health officials say
the risk of the public is low, but concerns are
growing in Texas. NBC five Sophia Bosole has the update.

Speaker 13 (40:56):
All Right, how'd you think Brian did in those first
fifteen seconds passing passing grade the disrespect. I thought that
was the proper urgency in tone.

Speaker 5 (41:07):
Yeah, he scared us. And then he's like, well but.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
But it's low.

Speaker 13 (41:10):
Yeah, and then he had a tough name to pronounced
off to the mighty actually doing the story.

Speaker 17 (41:15):
NBC five Sophia Bosle has the update.

Speaker 8 (41:18):
This is the New World screw worm. It feeds off
living flesh of warm blooded animals. It spreads its eggs
and wounds, and the larva or maggots burrow their way
down and eat away.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
Stop, she's weirding me out. It's a weird story. It's
a weird story, but she's saying it in a weird
way to me.

Speaker 13 (41:35):
Well, word, all of it was maggot bothering you, just
the whole thing, like open wound larva.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
Yeah, I think her her mouth is overly moist during
these pronunciations. Let's hear it again.

Speaker 8 (41:49):
This is the new World screw worm. It feeds off
living flesh of warm blooded animals. It spreads its eggs
and wounds, and the larva or maggots burrow their way
down and eat away.

Speaker 10 (41:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (41:59):
It's a real nasty infections not as as bad as
anything you can imagine being eating alive by maggot.

Speaker 9 (42:05):
That's what they do.

Speaker 13 (42:07):
Okay, that guys wearing a cowboy hat and he's out
in the wilderness and uh, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (42:13):
He didn't see that.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
The most trustworthy guy, but why I don't know. There's
something about it. Oh you don't trust uh country dudes.

Speaker 13 (42:20):
I do, but there's just something about like if you
can't do better than to just he's doing it over
his phone. But dude, you're on TV. Let's let's go
ahead and do something on the back. I'll just go outside.
I thought he wasn't even looking at the camera. I
thought he was browsing at some stuff at the Cracker
Barrel gift shop after eating a giant chicken fried steak
and pancakes at nine am.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
Do you want him to drive two hours of the
studio somewhere? What do you want him to do?

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Yeah, that guy's super Bowl is beating his grandkids in
checkers outside of the Cracker Barrel. By the way, rocking chair.
The Peg game at Cracker barrels an old time classic. Yeah,
it's great. Do you like the peg game?

Speaker 5 (42:54):
I don't think he should be playing that Cracker Barrel.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
They offer it competitive pegging. It's incredible. Man, you got
the triangle called?

Speaker 5 (43:03):
Is it called the peg game?

Speaker 19 (43:03):
For real?

Speaker 3 (43:04):
I think so? What else would it be called?

Speaker 5 (43:05):
I don't think that's what it's called.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
I think it's the peg game and I love it.
I'm gonna stop buying Cracker Barrel and play it while
I wait for my food.

Speaker 5 (43:12):
I'll tell you what.

Speaker 13 (43:13):
In that Jerry documenty, there's a clip of married with
children and completely different Peggy Bundy.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
What she was doing to al. I think we used
to go to Cracker Barrel like on road trips with
because Frido liked it right exactly the day I think
we've been there. On media, Yeah, Frido loved the PEG
game rested. Yeah, big time. Listen to this guy's terrifying
talk about this again. There's more.

Speaker 18 (43:34):
Yeah, it's it's a real nasty infections not as more
as bad as anything you can imagine.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Being eaten alive by maggot is what it is.

Speaker 8 (43:41):
It's not in Texas, but the Agriculture Department says the
closest known case is three hundred and seventy miles south
of Mexico. On Monday, the CDC confirmed a human case
was detected in the US and Maryland after someone traveled
back from El Salvador and the.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Person probably didn't realize it until they returned to the
US and had wound that probably started to smell and
realized that there was something in there.

Speaker 17 (44:05):
Movingsus in a human case, once the larvae is removed
in the area is treated, a person should make a
full recovery, but it needs to be cauterally.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
I got that last thing in there, just okay. In
a lot of old school movies, especially back in like
sword fighting days. Right, if somebody had a big cut,
didn't they just put maggots on the cut to eat the.

Speaker 5 (44:32):
Germs that I thought it was leeches, right.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
Well, I think the leeches. Yeah, is a leech maggot?
I think a maggot is a fly egg?

Speaker 9 (44:41):
Right?

Speaker 15 (44:42):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (44:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
Oh they're like those little tiny white bugs that are disgusting.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Yes, it's called maggot. De bridement goes back centuries, formerly
documented in the eighteen hundreds, and was widely used in
the battlefield during World War War One. Surgeons noticed that
soldiers whose wounds had maggots often healed better than those
without them. You realize, hold on, that was a little

(45:12):
over one hundred years ago. That's it. A little over
one hundred years ago, they were blowing each other's arms
off in the battlefield and using maggots for medicine trives.
How great it is to have lived in the era
that we lived in. I realized, hey, I was going
to ruin everything, but we did not have to live
in a time period where if you got a flesh wound,
a doctor suggested, let's throw some maggots on there and

(45:34):
see how it works out. I thought Jerry and Jimmy's
ego is out of control. The god and the war back.
Then right, we'll do whatever. Yeah, all right, there you
have it. There's a weekly weekday updates.

Speaker 13 (45:48):
Surprise if an ultimate episode of the Cowboys documentary on
Netflix is called Cocaine Cowboy, and it starts here.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Michael Irvin liked to party, guys. I had a routine.

Speaker 9 (46:09):
After you win the Super Bowl, you get about a month,
you cut loose half for a good time. In the
end of that March Fit was the big party. And
my birthday happens the fall March Fit.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
One.

Speaker 9 (46:30):
They had police going to see what's going on in
the room, and they came and knocked on the door,
and I didn't want to let him in, and they
pull it to God, open the door right now.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Serious allegations of cocaine possession and discussion of cocaine use
by Dallas Cowboys star receiver Michael Irvan.

Speaker 17 (46:48):
Tonight, our hidden camera videotape reveal a man on the
brink of self destruction will.

Speaker 12 (46:54):
At least say they discovered drug, pair of ernalia, some
sex toys.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
Along with substantial amounts of near Wan cocaine.

Speaker 13 (47:01):
One bag contained the largest chunk of crack cocaine he.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
Had ever seen. It was a huge chunk. You know,
we're talking about what is and isn't a puff piece
that depends on what your definition is is is thank you,
mister Clinton. But the one thing that they left out
of this that they could have put in that if
they were completely i'll just say unbiased, that they would

(47:28):
have put in because I'll never forget watching. And I
don't even know if you guys know it exists, but
you know that footage they're showing that Padini put the
camera in the back seat. You realize on the local
news a kid walked up to the car and Michael
Irvin signed the autograph while he's holding like a bag
of cocaine, like it's some of the craziest stuff you've
ever seen. And it was on the local news, and

(47:51):
they clearly had the footage because they had the Padini
stuff in the back seat and they did not use that.
The thing that stood out to me the most was that,
you know, here these guys are that are super rich
and it's the cheapest like motel you could.

Speaker 13 (48:07):
On Walnut Hill. Wonder if that still exists going to
drive by there.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
So here's what the DA says to Irvin once it
gets taken into.

Speaker 20 (48:17):
Mike Gillette was my boss, and we were trying to
prove that the crack cocaine belonged to Michael Ers.

Speaker 9 (48:23):
Jerry set up a meeting between Mike Chillette and.

Speaker 20 (48:27):
And there was a negotiation about what we can do
with this. But he got this evidence. This is how
much it's fun you could be looking at.

Speaker 9 (48:33):
But Mike Chillette was trying to say that I brought
the drug I said, I didn't bring me Joe, just
being on this, he said, the truth is what I
make in the court wrong, he said, And personally, I
think you're pieces and you've used your fame and your
money to take advantage of these poor white goods. And

(48:54):
I'm a familia like a fish and leave your naty
His exact words.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Wow, well do you believe that? I mean, that's the
whole thing is like what was really said. I don't know.
I mean all I could sit there and think about
is why didn't they just say Alfredo Roberts brought the drugs.
I mean, the whole thing is so wild ass. But
I did not know The context of Michael showing up
in court with the mink was predicated on that. Like

(49:20):
we talked about it all the time, Michael Irvin showing
up at court and summer with a mink coat and sunglasses.
But I the way it was presented in this documentary
was that that was his rebuttal to the guy saying
what he just said to him on that clip? Did
you play right? And I believe the guy said that, Yeah, no,
I did too. You'm talking about Texas in the ninety Sure.
I believe that it's just this does there's some parts

(49:43):
of this it's like spun it away to really make
Michael end up looking good, Like the idea that this
mink coat.

Speaker 13 (49:48):
What's the point of the mink coat? And I've got
the clip here first, and then let's just guess what
the real meaning of that is.

Speaker 15 (49:54):
Chock waves in Dallas is cowboys wide? Michael Irvin is
it dieted on two counts of drug possession. Her face
goes up to twenty years in prison if convicted.

Speaker 9 (50:05):
I'll show you tomorrow what it is when you get here.
And that's why I put on a meat coat in shames.
You want to show me up they me show you.

Speaker 21 (50:16):
It was one hundred and five degrees Tuesday and Dallas
and the things we're really hitting up in the fortround.

Speaker 5 (50:21):
It's nineteen ninety six.

Speaker 6 (50:23):
It's one year after the circus, the debacle that was
OJ in Los Angeles, and it made the lawyers and
the judges' central characters in the drama.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Okay, so what's the point of the mint code. It's
like he's showing up the assistant district attorney, who's like
a good plan. I don't. I wouldn't sink so, because
you know what Ben and I and all of our
friends were thinking at the time is Wow, this is
about as flamboyant a thing as you can do. It's
not the kind of thing to win over a judge

(50:54):
or a jury. But Mike's going to be the playmaker.
He became personal. And I'm not saying he was making
good decisons, obviously, but it became personal. And so the
police officer was making it personal, saying, Hey, I'm gonna
filley you like a fish or whatever. And so he,
you know it, says this later too. You know, I'm
gonna someone's gonna go pay me a bunch of money

(51:14):
to catch a football and you're still gonna have this
crappy job. So he was just saying, hey, man, I'm
living the life. Here's my fur coat, and I'm not
worried about you. This is how little I'm worried. That
is so wild. Twenty years, yeah, okay, it's also wild
that in Texas you could get twenty years for that
kind of drug for sure, because they you know, it's
not like it was heavyweight. They flushed a bunch of

(51:36):
it down the toilet. It was like residue and a
crack rock, and you can get twenty years from that.
And that's what you guys have heard the term mandatory minimums.
This was the whole war on drugs, and the guys
who ushered it in, by the way, were Clinton and Biden.
They're the ones who ushered in mandatory minimums. But a
little crack rock, because of the weight of it, could

(51:57):
get you more years in prison.

Speaker 13 (51:59):
Coming on next, So let's talk about what they found
in the motel room a little more. And also we
introduced a new character, Rachelle Smith, Ben and skin.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
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(52:30):
the Cocaine Cowboy, and KT has more.

Speaker 13 (52:33):
Yeah, so there's a little more about what they found
in the motel room.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
And I thought this was kind of fun. Two offers
was testified today.

Speaker 19 (52:40):
They entered the motel room because they could strongly smell marijuana.

Speaker 20 (52:44):
Smoke and then a golf ball sized piece of crack cocaine.

Speaker 19 (52:48):
In Texas, we didn't put up with that stuff. People
were doing life sentences for possession of marijuana.

Speaker 20 (52:55):
But one of the strippers, Angela Back, said and it
was herbs and that was of them as we were
the only archaics. And one of my recollection is how
many strippers I talked to Rachelle Smith. I interviewed her
a lot of times.

Speaker 13 (53:12):
All right, yeah, you did, hey, apparently think whatever happened
to Angela Beck?

Speaker 3 (53:17):
I did wonder what happened to her? Do you know
that's what she get twenty years? I don't know.

Speaker 13 (53:23):
That's the whole thing is, like, you can't even just
search it. There's a ton of people out there named
Angela Beck. Uhh you maybe, I mean, maybe try to
find it for more time. But I was just kind
of that's the type of things I want tied up.
I'm being greedy about what I want this documentary.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
Because if she if he was going to face twenty
if she said no, I'll jump on the sword, I'll
do the time, But what do I get for it?
That type of deal? Yeah, and I definitely thought she
was the better looking whoror you know what, I'll give
you that thank you. I'll give you that thank you.

Speaker 19 (53:52):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (53:53):
This is the fixer that we talked about a couple ofisodes.
The Cowboys had a little fixer on the squad, and
this is him talking about meeting with Rachelle Smith, the stripper.

Speaker 22 (54:03):
So one night Michael gives me a call and says, hey,
can you come down meet me a couple sports cafe.

Speaker 13 (54:09):
Okay, you don't have to meet at Cowboys Sports cafe's.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
They did a lot of stuff there. By the way,
I don't think Dennis Padini is the fixer. There is
a fixer, but they didn't show him in this, okay,
And I can't remember his name there and there. In fact,
they had a couple of fixers Padin did Padini No no, no,
he's still around. Padini was the guy that just drove
them around and partied with him. I'm talking about dw No, no, no,

(54:37):
there's another one. It's a Mexican dude. And I can't
remember his FN name, damn.

Speaker 22 (54:43):
Anyways, a Coble sports cafe and bring some stuff to
detect wires and stuff. Often, you know, go meet Russelle Smith.

Speaker 5 (54:50):
We need to talk to her.

Speaker 22 (54:51):
She goes into the room with Michael and they're in
there for I don't know, forty five minutes or so,
going back and forth. And I hear Michael gilling at her.
Why do they call you in or what are you
gonna say? I'm thinking to myself, So this sounds like it's,
you know, tamping with a witness or something, and I'm like,
this isn't gonna end.

Speaker 13 (55:08):
Well, that's a crazy scene too, that they would just
go handle it on their own.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
Like that, right. I was shocked by that, and what
are we doing?

Speaker 13 (55:17):
Is such a bad idea? And then he's yelling at
her too. Doesn't look good, but he's clearly agitated, not himself.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
Now, this is where we.

Speaker 13 (55:27):
Get to the court and we have a suspicious threat
at the courthouse.

Speaker 19 (55:33):
Now, as the trial went on, the doors open to
the courtroom and income FBI and they said we need
to get you out of here. There's a death threat
into the building.

Speaker 9 (55:43):
And somebody came in and said something to the judge
just arrested Johnny Hartnandez police officer.

Speaker 17 (55:52):
Murder for hire A Dallas police officer is linked to
a murder for hire plot aimed at Cowboys star Michael.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
It was clear that he wanted to Michael Irvin.

Speaker 5 (56:03):
Kill gets in.

Speaker 21 (56:05):
Pieces about the person Johnny Hernanez are slowly beginning to emerge.

Speaker 5 (56:09):
He was born in.

Speaker 21 (56:10):
Denver and that is where he met Rachelle Smith, the
woman who he says is his common law wife, the
woman who also has had a personal relationship with Michael Irvin.

Speaker 12 (56:20):
Sours of say Hervin Rett and the policeman's fiance, which
infuriated the officer and set our murder for Higher plot
in motion.

Speaker 8 (56:27):
Johnny Hernandez pled guilty to trying to have Michael Irvin killed.

Speaker 16 (56:31):
He was given sixty years in prison.

Speaker 13 (56:33):
Hey, life stentates from marijuana. If you try to get
someone killed, Yes, that is insane.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
So yeah, it's crazy that these things are happening. Like,
imagine that was happening now. Yeah, like how this and
this is just one of many different stories. Oh yeah,
in the middle of this big drug trial where he
might go to jail for twenty years, there's a murder
for higher plot from a police officer. It's crazy, like
all and I guess this type of stuff just happened

(56:58):
all the time back then to where we were just like, oh,
this is the latest crazy thing. But this is after
they had won their third one, right, and so there's
no doubt that it's falling apart. Like this is what
all the headlines were. It wasn't about winning anymore, was
about this stuff. Yeah, did y'all remember all this? Oh
my god, yes, I mean this to Ben's point, this
is all anybody talked about. I mean, it's just and

(57:22):
you know, Andrea Kramer said it earlier. We're a year
removed from the OJ stuff. So we're now used to
seeing courtroom dramas on television all the time. I don't
mean drama like you know, I'm talking about like real
live stuff, court TV and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 13 (57:36):
I was like, not surprised, I guess, but it's notable
how much national news footage they were showing on this
story in this trial.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
Dude, I mean, we all knew who Manny Alvarez was.
Like the judge of the case was very well because
of all this.

Speaker 13 (57:50):
This is like if and I'm using his name just
it's like if Patrick Mahomes had a tryal like it.
I mean, that's how popular Michael Irvin was, right for sure? Yeah,
for sure.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
It's insane.

Speaker 16 (57:58):
All right.

Speaker 13 (57:59):
When we come back, Rachelle Smith does take the stand
and then we find out how Michael got off. Yes,
So the America's Team, The Gambour and His Cowboys is
an eight part series and we're on episode seven called
Cocaine Cowboy. We told you in the last segment that
Rachelle Smith's boyfriend or fiance at the time was a

(58:20):
Dallas police officer who has got caught in a murder
for higher plot because he was going to try to
kill Michael Irving.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Who Michael Irvin. Sorry, but you guys know you understand
why he tried to kill him.

Speaker 5 (58:35):
Yes, she yelled at her.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
I mean it's more than that. I'm under stripped down too,
didn't he Yeah, he he, I mean like they were
hot up. But well no, not just that. Padina even
said it, like he's basically tampering with a witness. And
if you don't think Michael Irvin threatened her life, oh
for sure. Like I mean, I'm not saying the guy's
justified or whatever, but this thing is so sordid and

(58:58):
so messed up. I mean we're talking about drugs, crooked
police officers, hookers, prostitutes, court cases, cleaners. I mean, it
is a gigantic, disgusting mess.

Speaker 13 (59:11):
Would you have breakfast at Cowboys Sports Cafe or Cracker Barrel?

Speaker 3 (59:15):
I don't see a difference. And Rachelle Smith goes to
the stand to testify.

Speaker 12 (59:22):
Now, Rachelle Smith testify that she and Michael Irvin rendezvood
on three occasions in February at a Dallas hotel and
shared cocaine and marijuana provided by Urban.

Speaker 13 (59:35):
Smith said Urban chopped up the cocaine into powder, and
Urban would smoke cocaine, lace marijuana.

Speaker 5 (59:41):
She also said it was always Urban who brought the drugs.

Speaker 15 (59:44):
Smith, the girlfriend of the Dallas police officer accused of
trying to hire a hitman to kill Urban, says Urban
threatened to kill her.

Speaker 13 (59:51):
So that's what's wild, too, is you know, the guy
was not locked up. The police officer was not locked
up at the time either, you know, right, because he
would have to go to t trial.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Oh well, and.

Speaker 13 (01:00:02):
How the specific timeline on this, you know, they show
him on the documentary locked up and then she testifies.
But technically his case would have still been pending and
he would have got a fair trial.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
He may not have been able to I mean that
sometimes depends. I mean, think about Diddy. Sometimes, depending on
what the case is, you can not have the you know,
the ability to be out while you're waiting on trial.
It just depends. I don't remember the answer to that.

Speaker 5 (01:00:25):
But she's what I'm saying.

Speaker 13 (01:00:27):
She's up there testifying knowing that her fiance common law
common law okay, common law husband, his future's up in
the air because he was going to try to kill it.
That's this is insane. It's insane. Yeah. Well, We're gonna
jump ahead though, because we have to. And uh, this
is how Michael ended up getting off pretty scott free.

Speaker 20 (01:00:50):
You're on TV buying, you've got to get out on you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
We're gonna win.

Speaker 7 (01:00:56):
I've done in development.

Speaker 17 (01:00:57):
At the Michael Urban drug trial today, the playmaker scores
a deal.

Speaker 5 (01:01:02):
Very shocking to everyone in the court room.

Speaker 14 (01:01:03):
At about two this afternoon, it was.

Speaker 15 (01:01:05):
Announced Herban made a Pola Markt agreement with prosecutors.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Urban gets four years to herd probation.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
He pays a ten thousand dollars fine. I mean what Yeah,
that's raz I was wondering as I watched that, like,
how how did this happen? Did like Jerry help did
powerful things and the cowboys like make a deal right
with power players? Yes, that's exactly what happened. Let's talk
this through though, Let's talk to sir. How does that happen?

(01:01:34):
And how does that go down?

Speaker 13 (01:01:35):
Jerry schedules a meeting allegedly how does allegedly this was
a movie?

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
Yeah, there will be with the owner of a football team, Jerry.
Jerry wouldn't be in the meeting. There would be an
in between, like someone that's friends with many Alvarez. Many
Alvarez is the person who hands down this sentence, Okay,
Manny Alvarez is the judge. The judge here, okay, who's
in the documentary? Still a man around town, And so

(01:02:02):
there would be people that knew Manny Alvarez the talking
season tickets. What are we talking about here?

Speaker 18 (01:02:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
I just I don't think we can talk it through. Yeah,
I mean, I mean, I think it's too dangerous. But
I would say, yeah, it's just too dangerous. We're well,
we're not hold on, hold on, We're not implying that
there was a bribe. I'm just saying that you Jerry
doesn't go sit down with the judge and say, hey, man,
I need Michael to have a You know, there's going

(01:02:31):
to be people in between all of that that know
all the parties.

Speaker 13 (01:02:34):
Well, it's Jerry's job to find out as much information
about the case as it can, so like it would
be in touch with them and people, and.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
It's up to the district attorney, by the way, to
accept the plea.

Speaker 9 (01:02:46):
Like.

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
But I think there would have had to have been
pressure coming from somewhere else to influence them to do that.
I don't know. How that pressure is applied or how
it's effective. Does the o J case have anything to
do with this ad Probably just other than public discourse.

Speaker 13 (01:03:02):
No, I would assume not. But because it was a
year almost two years after that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
Well there's but it is racially charged. I mean Irvin
implied it earlier. Yeah, and so in the in the
the OJ thing was all about race for America.

Speaker 13 (01:03:20):
Okay, So when we come back, the assistant DA is
pissed about this ruling. The Cowboys culture is out of control.
And then what happens when you take training camp up
to Wichita Falls and go get a haircut?

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Oh god, that's next and skin Show ninety seven point
one The Eagle Man. We're having so much fun discussing
this cussing on as part of our custom the Cowboys
five o'clock hour discussing the Netflix docuseries America's Team, The
Gambler and His Cowboys. Now today we're talking about episode seven.
Tomorrow we'll wrap it all up talking about episode eight,

(01:03:52):
but we've today this episode is all about It's the
Michael Irvin drug trial and how it ties into the
end of the Cowboys dynasty. It was a really compelling
episode and we're just talking about the Michael Irvin case,
being on trial for cocaine possession and all of that,
and it's time to wrap all that up.

Speaker 13 (01:04:09):
So Michael gets off clean here with just four years
of deferred probation and a ten thousand dollars Fine. Here's
the assistant DA talking about how mad he is about it,
and it's happening now in the Eagle.

Speaker 12 (01:04:21):
I liked it as a person that I think all
the stuff that came out that I can't really trust
trust them three Like if a normal.

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
Person died on the streets, they go to tone a long time.
I just think that it just goes to show what
money can buy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
The end was so perplexing.

Speaker 20 (01:04:38):
Michael Irvin gets probation and a ten thousand dollars Fine,
How the heck did we.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Do all of this? And this is what you're offering?

Speaker 10 (01:04:46):
It was?

Speaker 7 (01:04:46):
It was unheard of. It makes no sense.

Speaker 20 (01:04:49):
To any experienced lawyer that you make the best offer
when you are winning.

Speaker 7 (01:04:54):
Nobody does that.

Speaker 13 (01:04:55):
Well, I'll tell you if someone does. Nikol Harrison, well
that's the one.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
It happened.

Speaker 13 (01:05:05):
We were winning. I do have Angela Beck cleanup. What
do you got so, Angela Beck after she pled guilty
in nineteen ninety six, she got two years deferred probation,
a five hundred dollars fine, and a one hundred hours
of community service. So that's good since your research by you, dude.

(01:05:28):
Since receiving her deferred probation, she has not been in
the public spotlight, so no one really knows where she's
at now or anything. She's still dancing, Yeah, yeah, I
certainly hope not two in nineteen ninety six would make
you about about sixty one. Now, you know what, We're

(01:05:48):
gonna go to wichital Falls soon. In this audio, she
could probably be dancing in witch tif Fall. Never let
anyone up there.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
Uh, trust me, I know.

Speaker 13 (01:05:58):
Uh. This is a little more on the call Boys
culture at this time. You know, Barry Switzer's still in charge.
Just won the third third Super Bowl in four years.
Still incredible, right, I thinks you're good.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
We were losing a lot of good players and we
just weren't replacing them.

Speaker 17 (01:06:11):
The Cowboys signed only seven free agents in the Switzer era.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
They lost thirty one. Okay, that's I had to stop
it here.

Speaker 13 (01:06:18):
There's more so they signed seven and lost thirty one players.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
That's insane.

Speaker 13 (01:06:24):
I've been looking at like a few things about NFL
teams this, right, who do they lose?

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
Who do they get? Everyone loses a few people in
free agency whatever. I was look at the Eagles and
the Washington who are in the division.

Speaker 7 (01:06:34):
It's pretty even.

Speaker 13 (01:06:35):
Almost every team. It's like, lost five guys, brought in
five new guys plus your draft picks whatever. So seven
stayed and they lost thirty one without being able to
recuperate it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
And they weren't drafting. Well, we'll get to that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Okay, we weren't drafting as good as we had been.

Speaker 18 (01:06:53):
The list for me in order the most important positions
on the defense.

Speaker 13 (01:06:58):
Okay, anyone who says it's a Jerry puff piece, you
have him in a room going what's the most important positions?

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
It's as bad as you can look. Yeah, it is
not a great clip for him.

Speaker 13 (01:07:14):
There are so many of those though, where you're like,
that's not a good clip for him.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
Even worse is Switzer looking out the window with his
eyes glassed over as Jerry asked that question.

Speaker 18 (01:07:23):
He lives for me in order most important positions only defense.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
I felt like, Jerry, you know, he was learning the
business on my time.

Speaker 15 (01:07:32):
What suspensions were Leon len In his second Japey Carver,
and Clayton Holmes.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
UI arrests for Corey Fleming mad Eric.

Speaker 5 (01:07:40):
Williams when is enough Enough.

Speaker 15 (01:07:43):
Switzer was arrested after security officers found a loaded revolver
in his carry on bag. Switzer says he placed the
gun there at his home to keep it away from
some kids and then forgot about it after packing his toiletries.

Speaker 5 (01:07:57):
He get it away from some kids instead of his
kids too. Yeah, man, I.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
Think that's one of my favorite quotes from the whole thing,
where Troykman says Jerry was learning on my time. Yeah,
And that's that's why I think I feel so bad
for Troy Aikman watching this because yes, they did win
three super Bowls, but how many super Bowls could they
have won? If you know, if Jerry had just gotten
out of the way and let Jimmy or even brought

(01:08:22):
in another real coach besides Switzer and Troy didn't have
to be the disciplinarian and they weren't making all these
mistakes in the draft and free agency, like, he could
have doubled that total. He could have won six super Bowls. Yeah,
and you got to go back to to like I
guess maybe episode one where he basically telling tech Shram
he wants his job and he just doesn't have any experience.

(01:08:42):
And the other thing too, Man, We've talked about this
with head coaches before, when they have a lot of
success right out the gate, and then it's like they
think they know what they're doing. And so think about
all the success Jerry had right out the gate. He's
the quote unquote GM even though it's Jimmy doing making
those moves. Jerry he probably thinks he already knows everything, which.

Speaker 13 (01:09:02):
Goes deeper to where we are now, he still thinks
he knows everything.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
Yeah, and because he's on the TV deals and twelve
billion dollars to watching the value of the organization go
up to you know, Jesus. What's interesting too is looking
at how much money they spent on that team that
really only ended up winning one more super Bowl and
then when they show you the record like over the
ensuing years, it's like they did not get banged for

(01:09:27):
that buck. They got one super Bowl and then a
lot of crap. Yeah, this is when they move training
camp to Wichtel Falls. Now, do you guys have memories
of this at all.

Speaker 13 (01:09:38):
Yeah, sure, I know is very big deal where I'm from,
because my local news sources were not NBC five and
Fox four and Channel eight. It was kft X Channel
three in Wichtall Falls right there at Midwestern State University,
so it was pretty common. I remember with my parents,
bought my cousins. We went a couple times the Cowboys practice,

(01:09:59):
you know, night ninety eight or ninety nine whatever, hot
so e f and hot out there, and I remember
just like burning alive on those bleacher seats.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
But it was the lead story.

Speaker 13 (01:10:09):
Every night was something Cowboys, whether they just had a practice.
We're here at Cowboys practice. And keep in mind, growing up,
I hated the Cowboys because I was a Packers fan,
and the Packers never beat the Cowboys. I mean, dude,
all those games at Texas STATEIU and the Cowboys just
stomped the Packers.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
So it was very weird for me growing up.

Speaker 13 (01:10:26):
This story I don't remember anything of though, and it's
one of the wallless Cowboys stories of all time. There
should be a full documentary episode on this.

Speaker 9 (01:10:35):
We would get a haircuts. Everett was a new guy
coming open. I say, I'm better than I'm next, you know,
to get a haircut in it. Next, this is how
we do things about it. We're doing on things like that,
and somehow I kind of lost to grabbed. Some citizens
die and I cut them so much blood came out.
They rushed them to the hospital. I went back and

(01:10:57):
I little that blood all over. I'm going jail that
way effort. I'm so sorry. But but you know, he
sat down, I know for you, He said, Michael, you know,
I know you love your kids. Man, you almost took
me from mine. Yeah, that was that was suddenly say.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
You know, And he was right.

Speaker 9 (01:11:14):
Had he not handled it the way he handled it,
that was definitely going to jail.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
What a train wreck, Michael Irvin is It's insane. I mean,
this is after almost going to jail for twenty years
and the biggest crack rock a Dallas police partman I'd
ever seen, and uh, you know, and then the murder
for a higher plot. Now you're trying to kill a
teammate over of the haircut line. I was just so
go ahead. I was gonna say, I feel like the

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guy in the mink coat really learned his lesson with
the two thousand dollars fine in the deferred probation. Yeah,
I'd say it's not effort. Mcconver was a rookie either. No,
he was a veteran. You're six or something. Yeah, he
was a veteran. That was they just signed him. They
just signed him. That was his first Cowboys camp.

Speaker 13 (01:11:56):
I just thought, now, this this documentary is great, all
the whole series, there's just not enough time to get
to all the stuff. Two minutes on the Evertt McIvor
stabbing is just not enough. I needed ten minutes. We
need to find MacIvor. I want to hear his side
of this, Like, I don't know that Evert McIvor just
said something like that what Michael said, Like I could

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see that being a situation hypothetically where someone in the
organization stepped in. I was like, hold on, well, don't
they pay to make those go away in DA And
it's like, look, you're gonna get all this money, but
you can never speak about it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
That's absolutely what happened. And the thing that was so
funny is for chan Gaily to be thrown in the
middle of all of this. I mean, was he came
off like a little country bumpet. It was. It was insane,
But yeah, I mean, that's that's what happened, man. And
I'm sure Jerry paid Everett mcgiver, maybe gave him a
piece of land and prosper I don't know, but he

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made that go away.

Speaker 13 (01:12:53):
I mean the rumor, according to an article that I've
just clicked here from the New York Times Times is
that it was a six digit figure.

Speaker 5 (01:13:03):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
So I mean, isn't that what happened when Zeke broke
that DJ's face. I can't tell you how many friends
I have in the DJ circles that old knew that
guy and all knew that he took.

Speaker 13 (01:13:12):
A check for sure. For sure, ever, like he got
a check for this So good, So good. That was
a good way to start off training camp right there
with a two inch cut.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
And it wasn't a cut. He stabbed him in the neck.
He stabbed him. He didn't slice him with open scissors
open at a forty five degree angle. He stabbed the
dude in the neck with scissors. That's what happened at
a supercuts, No, in a dorm room. Super good.

Speaker 13 (01:13:43):
They have a lot of places to get a haircuts,
which back then, so well, tomorrow we will do episode eight, Okay,
we'll end this Marathon, episode eight, which is a lot
about Jerry Jones. It's a this is where you could go.
It's a puff piece, I would say, but no, there's
a lot of stuff in there. Two words, not where.
It's not taking shots out of him and Ave Campo

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was wrong though. The one shot of Dave Campo in
this series is him.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
On an airplane with his mouth open. I leap with
his mouth if you want to. If we have time too,
we could probably hit the end of Irvin, the end
of Eight Men, in the end of Emmett because they
get into all that too. All right, great stuff, KT,
and it reminds me I'll never forget the time that
KT as a little boy went to cowboy camp and
he walked up to Everett McIvor. He yanked a pair

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of scissors out of his neck and he said, burn
my tongue on a Texas Twinkie. And it really had
a lasting impact. Christina're gonna stick around, play some music. Yeah,
all right, Christina is sticking around till ten Right here
on the Eagle.

Speaker 9 (01:14:41):
There you going, You're so, I'm gonna get some cheeks
after this horse College joint.

Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
God bless Jesus,