Full Show: August 29, 2025

Here's FRIDAY's show, featuring more fallout and discussion from the Micah Parsons trade, Skin's very weird new habit involving his fridge, and why Luka is still creeping around the American Airlines Center!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:23):
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Speaker 2 (00:35):
I'm on a hang out with her friends, rocking on
the radio. My hon on boy Skin in his find
talking on the radio. It's time to do this Fons again.
All the baby we know, Kti, Christine up and.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
All on our radio. Ah, yes, load, Welcome everybody. It's
the world famous Ben and Skin Show ninety seven point
one The Eagle, Ben Rogers, Jeff skin Wade, Kevin k T. Turner,
Christina k Ray, little Baby Cornbread Ray Fromoatmeal Pizza. All
hands on deck today as we react to the mushroom
cloud that took place yesterday, a massive, massive news story

(01:20):
in Dallas Fort Worth that cowboys actually did trade Micah
Parsons and they traded him to the packers. KT was
following those boob implant stories his sources very closely.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Turns out to be right.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
So the Cowboys parted ways with one of the greatest
players maybe in the history of the league, at the
age of twenty six.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Oh, there's the Jones reaction to it. Man, this is
the first superstar I remember leaving the Cowboys. I can't
even remember who another one would be. Like, nobody cared
when DeMarco Murray left. You know, it wasn't like, oh
my god. It was like, oh he went to the Eagles.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
That was weird. But he wasn't a superstar.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
I don't I don't even know what to compare this
to from a Cowboy perspective. I can't remember the last
time the superstar left the Cowboys.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
Most guys in their prime, still in the rookie contract
don't get moved and don't leave.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Most teams just keep them and sign them for a
second contract, especially at that position.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
Very strange, but uh, and I like the one eighty though,
because we all thought he was just gonna get.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Signed next week and we're moving right along. Yeah, you
like it because you're wearing Packers uniformly. We wearing full
Packers pajamas today.

Speaker 6 (02:41):
Told him.

Speaker 7 (02:41):
I was like, too soon.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
My badass Packers shirt came in like three days ago.
We don't care it's cold outside today.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Nice He's wearing a farm and an Aaron Rodgers jersey,
both of them.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
It's incredible.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
I still don't understand exactly where it went wrong here. Obviously,
Jerry negotiated a deal with Mike mikeh they shook hands
on it, and then mikel wanted to have his agent involved,
which makes all the sense of the world jar. He's like, wait,
we already had a deal. Uh so then they were
just apart and couldn't reach. But how far apart were they?

Speaker 6 (03:12):
Like?

Speaker 3 (03:13):
He he ends up getting forty seven million per year.
I've seen some reports that it's like the Cowboys were
offering forty six per year.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
The Cowboys were offering five at two oh two and
a half, and you're counting the year that he'd be
playing on right now at twenty eight million or whatever. Okay,
so the Packers from their standpoint, got him at five
at two ten, So we're talking eight million dollars.

Speaker 6 (03:35):
Now.

Speaker 5 (03:35):
The forty seven million looks good for the agent to
put out there, but the Packers are looking at this
we got him at five at forty two, but it's
in value.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
It's an eight million dollar difference and there and there's
no state income tax.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
That ponents been confusing to me, because Mike is gonna
live here, He's going to play his games there.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
I've seen it.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
I've seen a lot of things say both ways that
it would make up about an eight million dollar difference.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
But there is weird stuff about when you play games
in other states and how money all works out. I
am until I see an article that tells me different.
You guys may have seen something, And I am one
thousand percent convinced that this happened because Jerry disrespected that agent,
and that agent said watch this, and that agent engineered

(04:19):
him going to a team where he already had a
good the agent had a great relationship, and he steered
Micah where he wanted him to go. And I know
the NBA way better than I know the NFL, but
I know lots of NBA stories where an agent steered
a player because he did not like the ownership group.
And so the second that Jerry went out there and said,

(04:40):
oh what's his name and did all that song and
dance and then did it again on the Michael Irvin.
I mean, Micah can take that however he wants to
take it. The agent's going, oh cool, let me show
you what's up, Jerry. There's a lot of comparisons with
this and the Luca thing. I don't think they compare
it all personally. They both are obviously incredible players who

(05:01):
are in their prime or just entering their prime, maybe
even not yet entered into their prime at twenty six
years old. But outside of that, there's no there's no
real comparison here. It's not a great haul that they
got for him, but it's not incredibly out of line
with what some of these guys have gotten in similar situations. Obviously,
if they had traded him at a different time, they

(05:23):
could have gotten more because other teams would have had
cap space, they could have opened it up to the league,
all all of those things.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
But you know, like Kenny Clark is good, but he's
not great. He's not used to be he had used
to be. He's he's not a top twenty defensive tackle,
but he's good. He's better than probably.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Would argue that right now. I think he's got one
or two more years left of being that. Maybe.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
I mean, I saw her last year, right, I saw
a list and and I was like, Okay, well they've
got him at like twenty third. And I'm like, all right, now,
maybe he goes and finds his own thing, but regardless,
he's going to be thirty this season. This is a
move you make if you're re building. To me, I mean,
they got worse. They Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
The one thing that I would say there, there's always intangibles. This,
I honestly could pull guys together.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
Oh yeah, and I think there's people in there that
are fine with this.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, really players and stuff. Oh, because of all the
podcasting in general. But keep in mind, it's it's almost like, man,
good ridding, see you later. We were all the way
there at forty six.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Million a year. Yeah, but we are going to forty seven.
We never wanted to No, no, no, this is make
no mistake about it. This is the Joneses realized there
they'll say whatever they want. That crew realized Jerry aft
it up so bad there was no turning back, and
they you don't make a trade like this at this
time of the year. This was okay, we have screwed

(06:52):
this up so bad. We have to salvage it. If
you were going to trade Mike Parsons. You do it
before the draft, and they could have had the Packers
twenty third pick from this year.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
He would contributing to the team this year. They screwed
this up because Jerry ran his mouth.

Speaker 6 (07:05):
And I.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Firmly believe this.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
I really think part of this has to do with
Jerry watching that damn show.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
I agree he was referencing.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
Herschel Walker and I think you know what he did, man,
Jerry went out there and role played what he thought
Jerry was on that screen. I'm serious, and I feel
so badly for Steven Jones. He's not You saw him
crying in that documentary, just talking about legacy and in
the lineage. He doesn't want to think about his dad

(07:38):
being at a point where he can't be that superhero
forum anymore. But his dad is ruined this thing, and
he does damn well. He said in that press conference yesterday,
we're fine talking to agents. He had to put that
out there. They are. They are all in a horrible
position because the man that put them in the position
to have this life that they had is to the age.

(08:00):
He is screwing everything up and he can't get out
of his own way, and he just watched a love
letter to himself on Netflix and thinks he still has it.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
I saw this from I think you're right. I saw
this from Derek Eagleton. He said, look, let's look at
comps Khalil macktrade former Defensive Player of the Year. The
Raiders got two firsts, a third and six.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Okay. The Bear's got mac a second and a seventh. Okay.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
So he's talking about the Mac trade, right, And so
does that make you think that if you look at that,
does that make you think, Okay, that's in line.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
I think it's I think it's I don't think it's
a bad deal. I don't think it's a good deal.
I don't think it's a bad deal. And I do think.
I mean, man, look, I don't want to.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
Get super hype on a rookie, but Asiaku could end
up being a guy that gets you eight sacks this year.
And so I think you put this defensive tackle next
to and it's suddenly significantly better. And they got, uh,
you know, steroid white boy Bill Bates in the middle,
you know, coming and running and jamming it up. But

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and and so, but well, I'm not saying, hey, man,
they completely solve their problem. Again, this is not a
good deal. It's a solid deal they could have got.
They could have gotten good, can't get more. On August
twenty ninth, after everyone knows your.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Leverage, I saw Kavanaugh say that I don't know what
this stat was.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Did you finally see it? Kt? I was telling you
about it.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Kavanaugh had a stat that said when Micah was on
the field, they were the number one defense, and when
he was not, they were the number thirty two defense.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
I don't that's over. That's over one thousand and thirty nine. Snap,
that's over four. Okay, you have to take into Canta,
dan Quinn Era and all that stuff. Okay, Okay, good
shored uh and if it's the top pressure rate in
the league. But just like they're gonna see this too,
Like Azaraku may be fine, but he's not going to
draw triple teams.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
No, like Mike's drawing triple teams. So everybody else benefits. Yeah,
oh my god, it's brutal. All Right, we'll keep this
conversation going. Just over three minutes away, we'll continue to
talk about this trade.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
We'll do that next.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
Also, we're gonna be giving away tickets today too, in
the moment coming to the South Side ballrooms to be
listening with your iHeart app. But we're continuing the Micah
Parsons conversation as Micah Parsons was traded yesterday for the
twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven first round pick
of the Green Bay Packers and then a defensive tackle.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
He's more of a run stuffer than he is. Well,
that's not true.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
There's times where he's been a disruptive guys.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
He got a hurt in Week one last year and
was not the same. That's it. He was thirty.

Speaker 5 (10:40):
The Packers do never keep anyone past the age of
thirty unless it's Aaron Rodgers, like the youngest team in
the league, have been their GM runs from it. They're
not signing guys like dude Michael will play one contract
on the Packers and they'll get rid of him as that's.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
How that's how they do business, the Cowboys the way.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
I mean the first thing they said, why you do
this trade, Well, we thought we needed to stop the run.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Now I make it so much worse. When they go talk.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Just let me ask you, as a guy wearing three
Packers jerseys, when you watch Clark play last year?

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Was he a source of frustration for they all were so? Yeah,
but they got a lot of turnovers to hear here
over there.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
He used to be really good, but maybe he'll be
good again, and then when he's thirty.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
This is like that, I tweet what we're talking about.
I tweeted this yesterday and everyone came at me and
got mad. But I said, y'all do not need to
Anthony Davis.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Kenny Clark. He is awesome.

Speaker 5 (11:26):
Kenny Clark is the best effing defensive tackle the Dallas
Cowboys have had in twenty five years.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
All Right, well, I mean he was twenty seven or
something or back you problem.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
But he's thirty now and he's coming off not that
great of a year. He's a bit removed from being
one of the better tackles in the league. So last year,
you know, you said he was hurt. The year before
he had seven and a half sackles. Sacks from the
middle sackles. Sackles are great. It was a three four
nos tackle. Yeah, and then the year before that he
was All Pro. And so if he was compromised by

(11:59):
injury last year and he's healthy now, then he could
be really really good, and he could.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Be over the hill.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
The packers were gonna after this year, the packers are
probably gonna cap casualty him.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
But he's yeah, did you see how much he's making
next year? Been, Oh, he's not making a lot twenty
I think it's twenty six next year. Oh, so what
does he make? H I think the packers have to carry.
I have to handle this year. They have to carry
this year, but not next year. I thought the money
was small on him.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Yeah, well it is for the first year. Next year,
it's That's what I'm saying. Next year they're probably gonna
have to.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Well, they won't care. There's no guaranteed.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
They're not gonna say any year you're gonna be thirty one,
we're gonna have to pay you twenty.

Speaker 5 (12:30):
I mean, it's a he's gonna try to have a
big year and then get a new contract with guaranteed
money on it.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
So it makes no sense. And the fact that they
missed on Mazzie Smith, Like that's why they're in this whole.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
You don't miss on Mozzie Smith. You don't have to
trade your generational edge. Rusher, I would say probably not.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
Here's the most frustrating part of it for me. They
should have never signed Mike Parsons in the first place.
They should have traded him before the draft. Did you
know what really hammered that home to me when I
saw MIKEH. Parsons at the top of the list for
the highest paid non quarterbacks in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Do you know who was number seven on the list?
Ced Lambs? So you're telling me that you can have
the highest paid quarterback and two of the top seven
highest paid non quarterbacks in the league and be good.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
You can't. But you got to pick and choose your battles.
If they wanted CD Lamb and they wanted Dak, they
should have traded Micah before the draft and got in
a hall.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
For that's where you get to, like try to bright
side this thing. Can we do that at five o'clock?

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Because I like, how do y'all feel as cowboy fans
your entire life? Christina too, like y'all saw this yesterday?
What's going through your mind? Because let me just tell
you from a packer's perspective.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
Like all my packer's friends, Jared Sandler, Matt Sizzick who
works at the Mavericks, my dad we're sitting here going
Jesus highway robbery. Yeah, how do y'all feel?

Speaker 6 (13:51):
Right?

Speaker 3 (13:51):
That's how we feel. I mean, I can speak for myself.
That's how I feel. It's not a good trade. Like
those first round picks are going to be twenty six
to thirty, I mean, because the Packers are gonna contend,
and then you got a thirty year old tackle who's
on the decline. And now I'm realizing, oh, what a
terrible contract it is to that is not a good
return for a generational edge rusher when those are the

(14:14):
hardest guys. A quarterback and a generational edge rusher or
like a badass corner like you. Just generational guys like
that you don't trade, and if you are gonna trade them,
you get full return on them. That's the part that
is like the Luca thing. It's just not as bad
as what Luca was.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
I agree with everything that Ben is saying, but my
one caveat to that is that I'm really not moved
by it. And I'm not trying to be cynical guy,
but I am so used to this now. I will
always watch every single Cowboy game. I'll get excited when
they play well, i'll cheer, I'll do all that stuff,

(14:53):
but none of this stuff phases me anymore. And I'm
not trying to do the fire of the GM routine.
I'm really not.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
But we're on we're on a thirty year run of this, right, So,
like when it happens over and over and over, I
would be more surprised if they did something amazing, But
this was different for them.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
It was a different way to f things up, and
that that part is surprising. But I understand what you're saying,
that they're always just going to hit it right into
a lumber yard.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
I think Jerry's headed by the way more often.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
So, you know, the whole thing with the documentary, I
think that is playing a huge role in this. Sure,
And so I can't help but think that maybe they're
gonna fully tank and try to get arch manning, and
maybe they want them.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
To help them as they can't get out of that.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yeah, but it's still it's like that's what happened, That's
how things finally turned around when you had the young quarterback,
and man, I think that's what we're headed towards.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
I think this is a full.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
In their mind or some way, somehow this is finally
a reset, and now you have first round picks like
you had when you traded Herschel.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
Okay, we'll get into this later. And I hear what
been saying, but I want to say something that's really
gonna upset Ben. And we're going to do it at
four o'clock. Okay, you guys cool with that? Yeah, all right,
coming up at four o'clock, I'm gonna unintentionally upset Ben.
But coming up next, what's happening Kati?

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Well, what are the things from the two thousands that
have held up from the Mica trade.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
We'll get back into it at four. We'll get back
into it at five. We'll continue to touch base and
break that down. It is such a strange time to
be a fan. Is this the worst sports city in America?
It very well could be. It's in the discussion the Rangers.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
You're doing, Yeah, dure, Corey Seeker's emergency appendect to me
got revis islanded out there.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
No one's even talking about that.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
Vald He's like, no one cares about my situation because
now he goes and does that with his appendix.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
And I was talking to somebody in the know and
they were just telling me how bad it's going to
be for the Rangers for a while, and it's going
to be bleak. I'm talking about it. Sure though over time,
sure that'll work out fine. But right now, it's time
for this juicy nest.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
God every stay on the Time in the woods.

Speaker 5 (17:11):
Found this today and I enjoyed it. Things that have
been searched in twenty twenty five that are about the
two thousands, So it's basically like millennial superlatives here. For instance,
what comedy movie from the two thousands do you think
has been searched the most on Google this year?

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (17:27):
This year? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (17:29):
Stat brothers?

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Oh good? Gilmore is not correct? Not happy Gilmour? Yes,
I think Gilmour's nineties it was nineties. Yeah?

Speaker 4 (17:39):
What about is uh.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
The super Bad? Is that two thousand number bad?

Speaker 7 (17:44):
Correct?

Speaker 1 (17:44):
There it is? That's correct. I mean we love that movie,
all of us. Yeah, most googled two thousands comedy movie
so far this year.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
All right, you see how we're doing this now? Yeah,
action movie of the two thousands.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Dude, I don't think of movies that way. I'm not like, well,
this day was started in No. One and Lestowe. I
don't know I don't. It's on a mesh.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
To me, the two thousands matrix is ninety nine, so
let me say matrix reloaded. Uh No, there were a
lot of these and Michael Bay Fast and Furious.

Speaker 7 (18:17):
No transformers, Yeah, transform.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Transformers, transformers.

Speaker 7 (18:22):
Why are they googling transformers?

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Well, I mean, you know, it's the way it comes
up a lot. Yeah, it's the whole point.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
Okay, wasn't there another Transformers in the last year or two.
Maybe someone's accidentally googling that and then all that came up.

Speaker 5 (18:34):
Probably, and I would assume Wohlburg was on it, trying
to do a fake Tom Cruise fly off a plane.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
American rock band from the two thousands that's been googled
the most in twenty twenty.

Speaker 7 (18:45):
Five, Nicol Back. I guess they're they're nineties, right.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Well, I have I think the two thousands they're good.

Speaker 6 (18:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
I think it's gonna end up being Foo Fighters because
Dave Grohl had that baby out of wedlock.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
No, this is a and that could really help push
our way to the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
Oh, Creed, Creed, Okay, that's because of the Rangers.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
The American rock band googled the most in twenty twenty
five from the two thousand.

Speaker 6 (19:13):
Just cree, good for them, good for Scott Step According
to Google, did that?

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Do they have a new album?

Speaker 8 (19:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
Okay, one hit wonder, which I disagree with that this
band's a one hit wonder. But I'll just say that
we know these guys, local guys.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
I know who it is. Who is the It's the
Stacy's mom has got.

Speaker 5 (19:33):
It going on.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
It's fountain of Wang. Oh they're from here. No Oh,
falling for soup, bowling for soup. And they are not
Stacy's moms going on? Yeah, what do they they hit?
What's their similar song?

Speaker 3 (19:45):
What?

Speaker 1 (19:45):
I have so many songs? But do you just call
them a one hit wonder? I said that I disagreed
that they're one hit wonder.

Speaker 7 (19:51):
What a nineteen eighty four?

Speaker 8 (19:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (19:55):
Five, That's what I go for the weekend.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
I'm done, come back. Texas are a good one?

Speaker 6 (20:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (20:01):
What rapper from the two thousands?

Speaker 4 (20:03):
Google the most eminem mm hmmm, Kanye, Lil Wayne.

Speaker 5 (20:09):
Little Wayne, correct Little Wayne, Little Fountains of Wayne.

Speaker 7 (20:13):
Finally, rom Com Christina for you the two thousands.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Because we're men, we don't watch bomb coms.

Speaker 6 (20:22):
Probably something with Kate Hudson, Michael or Matthew McConnell.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Oh, Kate Hudson.

Speaker 6 (20:29):
Yeah, what's that movie called the Wedding One? No, not
the Wedding Planner because that's Jennifer, but near like one
of a bunch of wedding dates or something.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
M just have Jimmy Fallon in it. Kate Hudson, I
don't know many.

Speaker 7 (20:50):
People like you said.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
All the people that she mentioned without mentioning the title
of the movie. And we appreciate that. We appreciate that. Uh,
that's enough. That's enough. Coming up next, Skin, we're gonna
take some thing. Skin is tracking.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
I want to get your reaction to a picture I
want to show you, and I want to find out
what convenience.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Store you're going to for Labor Day.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
Ben and Skin show ninety seven point one The Eagle.
Let's give away tickets for in the moment. They're gonna
be at the south Side Ballroom September twenty third.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
I'm gonna make it easy.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
All you gotta do is have the iHeart app and
talk on that little talkback feature. Leave a message with
your name, your phone number, your email address, and tell
us which Dallas cowboy was traded yesterday. If you don't
know the answer to that, you don't deserve to see
in this moment, they're coming to the south Side Ballroom.
So which Dallas Cowboys traded? First person, name, phone number,

(21:44):
email address. You are going to win those tickets. And
speaking of all this, Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones had
a lot to say about it. We will get into
it at the top of the hour, but right now
it's time.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
For this.

Speaker 8 (22:01):
Track other edition of.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
All Right, thank you, fam.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
I got something I was going to send you a
picture of and then I realized, Okay, I'm going to
send it to you right now. Not at work, dude, No, no,
I want you to see this. I was I had
pulled my pants up, all right, I hope. So I'm
sending the three of y'all a picture, and I would
like to see if you what's.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
That is a blemish? Do you guys know what that is?

Speaker 5 (22:32):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (22:32):
I know exactly what that text? Okay, this is okay, Yes,
it looks like.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
A Snickers or a Milky Way cut into a bunch
of small pieces.

Speaker 6 (22:44):
There's a cookie in there. Bend these are twigs?

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Oh that is nu.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
Yes, it's definitely nugat. You didn't identify nugat. She is right,
and this is my this is my thing. I've been
so into this. So when's the last time you guys
went into a convenience store, Probably on Labor Day, and
you're like, man, i'd like a candy bar. My god,

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look at how gigantic all these.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Candy bars are. Yeah, Like they're all giant size.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
You can't just go in there and just get a
little because I like sweets, but I just like a
little bit.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
I just want to taste. I don't want a big
giant thing.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
So my new deal is I get a giant Twix
and then I get a knife and I cut each
one of those bars up in the five pieces.

Speaker 7 (23:33):
Like a little sushi roll.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
I put it into a tupperware and then I put
it in the refrigerator because I love cold twigs.

Speaker 7 (23:40):
Okay, this genius.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
And then when I come in from my Japanese interval
walking or just out in about or whatever, and I
want a little sweet, I go in there, I pop
it open and I just grab one.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Or two of those. Came Marie Condo. Dude, it's pretty good.
Do you have you have the self discipline for that like,
can you when you eat pringles, can you just do
a little lap dance and just have a couple or
do you have to like entertain the whole strip club
with your mouth? I think that's a fair question. I
think once you pop, you can't stop. Well, so this

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would be me.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
This this situation is me bragging about something that I
have control of, where pringles I don't have control of.
You also don't have control to my understanding over girl Scout,
thin mints that are don't you're right?

Speaker 1 (24:26):
How are you able to just do this here? Okay?

Speaker 4 (24:29):
And I think you bring up an interesting conundrum with
the thin mints. I love thin mints, but for maybe
it's the mint taste. I'm not sure. To me, they're
not overly sweet those Whereas this thing Kevin was over
there talking about all that nugat all over his face,
like when you get nugat and chocolate, like the kind
of chocolate you put on a you know, it's like

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a thin mint is kind of it's almost like a
breath mint in some ways. It's a little sweeter, but
it's not overly sweet. And for me, if it's something
that's really sweet, I just want a little bit of
it and then my body tells me I'm good. But
if it's salty, like anything with a salty discharge, like pringles,

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I will eat a thousand of those things.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
Do you know what else I really struggle with? And
I know you guys are gonna make fun of me
because this is super bland. I will eat an entire
sleeve of salting crackers.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Really nothing else.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
Yes, I mean, I'll also eat it with cheese, or
I'll dip it in suit, but I will just sit
there and straight white crackers straight. Really, I feel like
dan Aykroyd and the Blues Brothers.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Right, your mouth gets so dry, It.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Does get so dry, and then I have to use
like an entire thing of flass just to get all
that out. But I don't. I just salt is what
I'm addicted to. What do you do cheese?

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Whizz on those things?

Speaker 2 (25:50):
No?

Speaker 1 (25:51):
I no, I don't. What do you do?

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Know?

Speaker 1 (25:53):
What I love to do? I love to like if
you have like a oh, shout out cracker, barrel cheese,
if you have a block of cheese, cut it out
in the slices, Oh man, I'll do then. Now I don't.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
I can't imagine that tasting good because those crackers are
so bland and terrible. I get it, like that's the
first thing you eat if you're out of a coma.
Here see if you can eat this cracker on your stomach.
H But I will say my favorite item growing up
in the lunch room was the small cheese and crackers
containers where you got the little red plastic thing to
apply the cheese and the cheese was in a little

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bucket on the other end.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
And it reminds you of a dog, doesn't it. No,
no it doesn't.

Speaker 7 (26:29):
But you would save all the cheese for the last one.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yeah, you gotta rash it out.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
We'll blow your cheese budget early on, and then you
you got a dry cracker at the end.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
Okay, how do we feel about how do we feel
about wheat thins?

Speaker 1 (26:40):
I whets?

Speaker 4 (26:42):
Have you seen those packages where it's many wheat thins
and many chunks of cheese?

Speaker 8 (26:47):
No?

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Oh, dude, I'll bring one. I don't know. I want
you to, I want you to see it. I want
you to watch me eat it. But they have and
I do that.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
I look at how many little, many wheat thins are
in there, and how many blocks of cheese and I
plant it out so when I get to the final four,
I've got a piece of cheese for each mini wheat.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Then it takes budgeting. You have to in this day
and age, Ben, you have to. I'm recently looking into
learning about budgeting.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
What was that?

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Yeah, I don't remember you said, I'm thinking about looking
into the budgeting.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
You're like, was there anything else I can help you with? Sir?

Speaker 4 (27:28):
I know you guys wanted to hear what my favorite
convenience stores were to visit over this Labor Day weekend,
but we ran out of time, but we did. But
I'm telling you if you if you want to change
your game and you don't want to eat too much,
get a king size Twix. Cut each little bar into
five pieces, so then you're gonna end up with twenty
pieces put in at top of wear. Just eat a

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couple at a time into last year for five or
six days.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Ben. I think that's great advice.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
And uh, that's incredible self control, and I'm going to
look into that.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
I was.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
I have some like carb pre candies and stuff, but
I could just dabble in them.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
I do a lot better for myself. Do you want
me to show you how to cut them and put
them in a text me. Yeah, you got it.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Kind of nice for you, all right, coming out next,
let's get back into another terrible trade for Dallas sports
fans next.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
But right now, it's time for this.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Now around the sports KTD Twins as all.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
The sports I think we.

Speaker 5 (28:28):
Should though it to skin because you teased a little
bit earlier that you were going to make Ben mad unintentionally.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yeah, and I'm really not trying to make Ben Mad.
I swear. I genuinely believe this. I believe that.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
Okay, you always got to say this in the NFL,
with whether or not your quarterback gets hurt, like, for example,
if Jordan Love breaks his hand on Week one, I
suddenly loved the trade for the Cowboys, or I like
it a hell of a lot more, right, right, willis
whenever you say these things, you're talking about if your
quarterback stays healthy, Okay, if Dak stays healthy, if the

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team has quote unquote relative health, it's an eight win
team and you're and this, I know you hate that
more than anything in sports.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
I don't even know if they I mean, if they
did like what they did last year, where they win
some games, it probably should win her close game or something,
and like.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
It's the NFL. I just this is an eight win team.
I think without Dak, I mean, without Micah, if everybody's healthy,
I think it's a six win team. Now, okay, And
so I think you're I think if things could unravel
really quickly, and I would love it because I want
the highest possible, best possible pick in each round of
the draft. Yeah, no, I get that.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
And you know, I thought the best chance the defense
had was to be a defense that created turnovers. And
the guy who's most likely to help you create turnovers
just got traded to the Packers for a solid player
that helps a deficiency, but is not like he's also thirty. Yeah,
it's not a game change player, right, Like you have
two game changing players, one on offense and one on defense,

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and you traded the one on defense.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Now you have two on offense if DAC's good. Yeah,
I was just considering cd Lab for sure. Yeah it
is labt Okay.

Speaker 5 (30:14):
So they called a press conference last night after the
trade because you gotta go talk about it. They made
it so worse. Oh, they made it so worse, Jerry,
why'd you do it? Man, why'd you trade Michaeh.

Speaker 8 (30:24):
We did think it was in the best interest not
only the future, but right now this season, we've gained
a Pro Bowl player in an area that we had
big concern in. I want to tell you that I
really like Michael. There's no question that I could have
signed him in April. There's not an ounce of vindictiveness.

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There's no bad feelings on my part about the fact
that we didn't come together on an agreement.

Speaker 5 (30:54):
No vindictiveness. I like hearing that. We got to stop
referring to people as Pro Bowl players. They don't even
they hardly play the Pro Bowl anymore. They get elected
to it, and then guys are like, I'm hurt, so
I'm not going to play in it. So then they
get another guy, so Jay like the whole leagues of
Pro Bowl players at this point.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
So we got to stop using that.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
He just likes the sizzle of saying, yeah, it's his era,
right back in his day syndrome right there.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
The worst thing about all that yesterday the press conference
is that he kept getting the player's name wrong.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah he can't.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
He kept calling him Michael Parsons, and he did it
the other day and he did it all during that
press conferenation.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
I'm like, can you please stop calling him? Michael?

Speaker 4 (31:32):
I'm having so many talking about the Cowboys. Is I'm
having so many presidential election feelings. Yeah, And I man,
I'm not I'm not saying this to be a jerk.
I mean we've talked about this. We talked about this
when he had the Sean and RJ thing last year.
I thought that that was a sign of age and agitation.
And it's like, it's a it's a cliche, and we've

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said it's a stereotype. But people in that age group
get agitated and they're tired of being told what to do,
and they're like, hey, man, I've lived this life. But
what happens is is your cognitive skills change. It's gonna
happen to every one of us if we're lucky enough
to live that long. And the Cowboys are beholden to
that right now, and it's very, very troubling.

Speaker 5 (32:13):
Sure, here's some more spend control right here or strategy.

Speaker 8 (32:18):
We need to stop the run for several years. And
when you have the kind of extraordinary pass rush that
Michael had, then the way to mitigate that pass rush
is to run at you. If the pass rush doesn't
get you ahead pretty big time and you're playing even

(32:38):
or behind, then you've really got a problem in stopping
the run.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
The problem is they need to stop the run. In
the four years they had Micah, they spent this much
money on defensive tackles, the least in the league, the
second least in the league, the third least in the league,
and then for the least in the league. So they
were a bottom three spending team at the defense tackle
position all four years you had Micah. So I understand

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from the from the aspect of we couldn't get it
done with dak CD and Micah taking up forty eight
million dollars total. How are we supposed to get it
done with those guys making one hundred and sixty million
dollars a year total. I understand that, Like I can
get around on that logic of this thing, but some

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of their missteps and building the team is why it's
not going to happen, and quite frankly, it's why they're
stuck in the middle.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Okay, aren't going to get a lot of top ten
picks now, I know.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
But what you're saying is the one thousand percent true,
and we all agree with that, and that was also
one thousand percent true in March.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yeah, and so so you can't.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
Really And again I said this earlier, but it really
hammered it home to me when I was thinking about it,
looking at that list of none quarterback the highest paid players, like,
you can't win having two of the top seven and
the highest paid quarterback in the league. You can't win
that way. And they so I don't have a problem
with moving on from Micah. I don't have a problem
with going I'm gonna keep ceedee lamb over Micah. But

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the way they did is horrific, and they fumble farted
it and they were trying everything they could have been
pointed out earlier to give Micah a bunch of money
and put themselves in that situation like they just they
don't have.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
And they and they lied, they lied about stuff, and
they don't have a frickin' philosophy. And it's maddening to
have been in this position for thirty years with the
same core guys and they still don't have a philosophy.

Speaker 5 (34:33):
So they said a couple other things, including did Micah
go back and try to get it done? One last time.
And what did Jerry tell Micah when that happened. We'll
discuss that next.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
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They are the homies, Frankel and Frankel. All right, Katie,
let's pick back up. We're going through some Jerry and
Steven audio. So this certainly didn't just happen yesterday. This
was probably in the works.

Speaker 5 (35:15):
I'm gonna say, going back to Tuesday when Micaeh went
to get a second opinion on his back Wednesday, my
feeling and a few other people's feeling is that he
was probably going to get his physical with the packers
that probably already been worked out.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Now. I saw that boob doctor knew what was going on.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
I truly think he was seeing there were packers fans
tracking like like flights into Green Bay from Dallas, and
there ain't a lot of There ain't a lot of
planes that go to the Green Bay airport, by the way.
Usually people fly to Milwaukee and make the hour drive
across the farmland past the prison. We're making a murderer happened,
remember that. So I have a lot of problems with

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them lying. One of the lies that they had were well,
were sixteen teams that we were going to talk to.
No eight teams had the salary cap space to do this.
The Packers were one of them. The Lions were another one.
The Eagles were one of them. Terrence Parsons on a
Twitter spaces thing last night with a bunch of people
said that the Eagles had offered a package and forty
three million dollars, but the Cowboys were.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Not going to trade him to the Eagles. Clearly, it's
kind of wild to trade him to the Packers.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Packers have ripped their hearts out like all their worst
losses in the last like fifteen years or to the Packers.

Speaker 5 (36:25):
And their justification of that is a part of this
is two first rounders was obviously going to be the
starting point, but they we got to get a defensive tackle. Look, dude,
if the Packers traded to trade Kenny Clark right now,
Kenny Clark probably could have got them a third or
a fourth rounder and that would have been good. It
would have been fine. Like, that's probably the value there.
So if you want to look at it that way,
you can. Here's where I was a little confused because

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it's basically, did you tell Micah to stop the holdout
and play?

Speaker 8 (36:52):
But basically I think I've read where they said that.
I replied, we're playing under the contract as exist. Now
get ready to play Philadelphia? Correct, that was correct?

Speaker 1 (37:06):
So what a badass? Good job, Jerry. We don't know, dude,
You're a kicking ass. Wait to go. You showed us well,
clearly they.

Speaker 5 (37:13):
Were talking to David Mogoletta at all, but someone for
Micah's team or Micah apparently, I think, went in to
try to fix this and then they were like, no,
you have offended me. And I don't for a second
think Micah did not want to be here. I do
not believe that at all. I think there's a lot
of people who are failing to understand that Mike's trade

(37:34):
request from a month ago.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
We were doing our short at Chalk Tall that day.
That was a part of the negotiation, a part of
the game, part of what he had been told to do.
But Jerry put him in a position where you have
to choose between your agent being a leader and your
team and me and the star, and you have to
choose all that. And Micah chose his agent, which is
the right thing to do because the agent is one
of the two best agents in football right now.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Okay, So what ultimately was the distance in money that
was causing this rift? Like he makes Jerry offered forty
six and they shook hands, and then muugh Alatta said
I need forty seven and Jerry said, I'm offended. So
they lost a twenty six year old edge rushing demon
over one million per year.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
No I even got that.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
I think it has to do these contracts always have
to do with guaranteed money, and so we don't know
what the guaranteed money offer was, Okay, but I do
think that the second that Jerry started doing that whole
I don't need to talk to that guy and all
that stuff. That guy was like cool and he was
in Micah's ear, going this team does not want you.
They're disrespecting you, they're treating like trash. I can get

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you right now to a Super Bowl contender. I can
do it right now, Micah. Why are we wasting our
time with these people? They're disrespecting you? And think about
how emotional Micah is to have that in his ear.
So Jerry picked a fight with a guy and that
guy just shoved it up his ass.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
I don't think they got going. I don't think they
restarted it. I believe you. I don't think so either.
Why we're even a part of it? Real honestly what
he means.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
But there had to be because Jerry said he offered
more guaranteed money than anyone non quarterback ever.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Right.

Speaker 5 (39:11):
But the reason Jerry would never start up conversations again
with them is because after they did that, and Jerry
did the whole thing, and then he told listen this clip, right, Okay,
this is Jerry and Stephen talking about saying too much
about how they do contracts.

Speaker 8 (39:24):
As old Michael Irban told me one time.

Speaker 5 (39:26):
He said, oh yeah, I left in the old l
Paso story because he did it.

Speaker 8 (39:30):
Jerry said that we're just not gonna do it. I'm
just not gonna do it, I said, Michael there's an
old West Texas town called El Paso, l Paso, and
he goes, God knows, give it to me. I can't
deal with you on a basis like that.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Let's go hit.

Speaker 8 (39:45):
So my point is I tell all that or that
time did was last, We're still doing it. Yeah, thirty
something years later, that stuff happens.

Speaker 9 (39:54):
The only other thing I'd add to that is there
we do have players that come in and totally respect it,
that say I don't I feel comfortable talking about my contract.
I'd like you to go through my agent, and we
do that respectfully. I mean, you're not required to come
in and negotiate the contract yourself. All the ones we've
done like that are those who request to come in
and visit with your ear myself. That's the only ones

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we've done that with.

Speaker 8 (40:17):
The issue here was not to switch who we were
talking with. The issue here was starting over after I
had really dug deep, and then to say let's start negotiation.
Pretty clever if you think about it. On our part,
that was pretty good.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Yeah, they negotiated a deal Micah. They thought Michael wanted
to negotiate, so they hash out a deal without an agent,
which is really fishy suspect anyways, and then they're like, yep,
done deal. We're not willing to look at anything else.
We work to deal with the player. And then they
were never willing to have another conversation. But I'm curious
about whatever that was that was negotiated there. What is

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the difference between that and what he got from the packers? Like,
what is that? What was the divide here that led
to this?

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Financially it's unless both sides come out and say it's
always gonna come down to guaranteed money. I still think
it's negligible though.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
You think that, you think he got the same guaranteed
money he signed a four year old.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Still, I don't know that it even mattered to them.
Guaranteed money always matters. I just don't think it was
that far off. I just think Jerry did the thing,
got him in there, did the numbers, running back to Steven,
probably gave a long story and speech and got emotional
and all that stuff. And then Mike is like, Okay,
well I'm gona write by major, And he's like, what

(41:38):
have you do? You realize what I just did? Like
that's that was too much for Jerry. This is look
Jerry's a big thinker, big heart. What are you saying
he's a small man. He is. He is a small man,
you mean nationally. Just little things like this should not
bother him. And I think the fact that he would

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not do that just talk to his agent because he'd
already done it off some principle that is ancient, is insane. Yeah,
and they may be better off not giving him the money.
This could be a train wreck for the packers too,
Like he could fall apart, he could get hurt. There's
a lot of bad things that could happen there.

Speaker 5 (42:15):
The packers looked at that and went, well, that's worth
the risk because this price tag is not crazy and
we're close.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
The packers never do stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
They don't do stuff like this, And they were like, yep,
that's a bargain, we'll take it.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
You're like that, why didn't God Cowvich offer.

Speaker 5 (42:29):
Like two first in Kennyicark and the packers went yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
we'll do that.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Like they're probably shocked at that offer.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
All right, coming up next, why is Luca still lurking
around the AAC. We'll discuss next, but right now it's
time for this.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Are you excited? Featuring veteran news anchor kt fun.

Speaker 5 (42:51):
Tweets certainly a weird one here. So Luka Doncic is
featured on a national advertising campaign for a video game
called Overwatch Too.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
I don't really think about Overwatch too.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
I've never played it, but I know it's one of
the most competitive games. Like it's like when people have
these big video game team tournaments, it's one of the
games that's played the most the tournaments.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Where you go and shoot people or is it the
one in the cars that play soccer? They should be
in sell like shooting rocket League.

Speaker 5 (43:22):
Okay, instead of shooting people, they should make games where
you just try to stick your foot out and trip someone.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Yeah that sounds good. You got them? I just glass
of blood.

Speaker 6 (43:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (43:33):
So there's like promotional billboards popping up all over the country. Uh,
you know, Luke has obviously been on quite a pr
run lately. Well, there's also like he's on this billboard
here in town, and it's visible on these buildings that
are surrounding the American Airline Center, These buildings that you
can now see way more than the American Airline Centers.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
They're bigger.

Speaker 5 (43:53):
It's near the statues of Dirk and Madonna and all
that stuff. So the Dallas Morning News is reporting at
the Mavericks. Someone in the Mavericks requested that those billboards
with Luca on them on for the overunch be moved
or Luca not be on those billboards near the American

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Airline Center. Now, I don't know if I buy that
or not. That sounds like a crazy thing to do.
How do you make that request?

Speaker 4 (44:21):
I guess you reach out to whoever owns it, like
clear Channel or whatever, and say, hey, even though these
people paid their money to advertise where they want to advertise,
can you do something to make that not happen with
your company?

Speaker 1 (44:35):
You'd have to have them leveraged as a partnership.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
In other words, the MAVs would have to spend a
ton of money with clear Channel or whomever it is. Ah,
and then they're a big client and they said, hey, man,
we don't like that ad being right there. Can you
make sure it's rotated somewhere else?

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (44:49):
If not, no worries, We'll take our ball and go
home and go buy billboards from someone else.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Right. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. But I'm
not saying they did that.

Speaker 5 (44:56):
I'm just thinking mpathetically, Well, yeah, just so you'll know
where a Hero Sports bar is by, right.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
And this is the one I saw was on the
old Channel eight studio, like that to the corner. So
the actual billboard is facing south. So like if you're
coming from downtown towards uptown, you see it right there
on Naviitsky Way.

Speaker 7 (45:17):
That's unfortunate.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
Yeah, so according to this article, the American Helion Center
also has space for one digital billboard on it, but
they're not The Overwatch ad is not airing on that
digital billboard.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
But again Hero is right there.

Speaker 5 (45:28):
What you said across from it now corner to the
DWS one is the request to move them was not
made by anyone within the Mavericks ownership group or senior leadership.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Oh so, which I went suspitious.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
Oh, it would have been an employee just taking it
on their own and just doing it, saying, hey man,
this isn't a good look.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Why would they even specify that?

Speaker 4 (45:48):
Okay, we are in the mode of wildly speculating because
it's a news story. But I mean, I guess I
could conceivably see it coming from the sales group because
that's where you know, trade deals happened. I'm not saying
it did. But if like re flag did it, what's
the super flag? Yeah, But but the whole point being

(46:09):
is if something like this could have happened, because that's
the other thing the Mavericks saying that wasn't us, you know,
And so if it did happen and they were saying
it didn't happen from the leadership group, I could see
it coming from the sales department in any organization. But
you know, who knows if it actually happened or not.
I'm just putting my respects on Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Okay. Interesting. If I was going to do that, Okay,
if I was going to be like, okay, we need
to get this thing out of there, I would not
be concerned about that in August? Right, was October? I'd
be like good.

Speaker 5 (46:42):
But again, it's like it's someone's going up to the
Billy Joel concert.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Who plays the American on center? Right, Billy Joel the weekend
was there? Right? Did he do the ac Oh? Did
he do Jerry World? Surely don't last time though he
was doing multiple nights, right, yeah, I know our buddy
TC went that's.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Really yeah, okay, oh my god, all right, There you
have it, an unresolved news story will continue to track
coming up in just over three minutes.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
It's the Today Game.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Several months ago, when Mission Impossible, the new one, the
Final Reckoning came out, I had the opportunity to meet
Tom Cruise, our buddy TC who was just mentioned I
think in the last segment of Last Big Day for Him.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
On the Day for him.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
He went and set up a camera and interviewed me
about all the emotions I was taking into this encounter
with Tom Cruise. We role played. We talked about ways
I could have a how I could turn this little
meeting into maybe being in his next movie. Yeah, or
just tell him, Hey, thanks for all you're doing for

(47:47):
the environment. You know, there's a lot of different options,
the ways you could go if you were going to
meet somebody who you really admired, an actor, a musician,
Like if you think about all the anxiety leading up
to that that you would you have, you're going to
have a minute or two with him alone, what are
you going to say? Well, that video finally came out.
It came out last night on our YouTube channel. So
search Ben and Skin on YouTube. And what's funny about

(48:11):
it is we just moved on and got going to
like we have this whole other hour long conversation with
me and TC that we filmed, but we hadn't released it,
uh huh. And then I was like, oh, we need
to get a thumbnail made for this, and it took
like all this time. Our buddy Johnny mccolodge made a
thumbnail for us. Okay, nice, and so TC kept following
up with me. He was like, what are we gonna
do on that? Are we gonna are we going to

(48:32):
post it? And so the funniest one was he he
texted me last week and goes, hey, uh, maybe the
best time to post the Tom Cruise thing is now
with the excitement of the NFL season.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
That's a that's a great point, that is, So I
got done.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
I think probably next Thursday Philly Dallas, Tom Cruise is
going to come parachuting in from a blimp right before kickoff.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
So if you want to see that, it's it's pretty
funny and just all the exact leading up and then
the actual interaction there as well. So it's go find
Ben and Skin the Ben and Skin channel on YouTube
right now.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Start for this come on.

Speaker 5 (49:12):
Surprise reminder We're Pluckers in Dallas next Friday, right off
of Lower Greenville.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Dude.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
So we'll have the Cowboy game on Thursday night and
we'll go late into the night. Now everybody will and
then so everybody will take off work on Friday. So
come join us at Pluckers. That's the o G location right.
Oh yeah, three six Friday, Lower Greenville and Lovers. Okay,
I want to play a clip for you guys. This
is from February.

Speaker 5 (49:49):
This is like during Super Bowl week and Michael Parsons
is hosting his podcast.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
His guest is Jordan Love. Remember when Mike at this
podcast in Jordan Love, Yes, jumped on it to seasons ago, Yes,
and Jordan was like, yeah, we knew y'all couln't stop
the run. So that was the game plan, run the
ball at you. Well, this is February, and this is
this is why I Well.

Speaker 5 (50:10):
First of all, Michaeh did put in a statement last
night that he never wanted to leave. I do believe
him on that. But this is from go Package Jebruary
of this year. It's kind of crazy.

Speaker 6 (50:20):
Is there anybody, particularly around the league that you feel
like should come.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
Into the organization? Can make an impact for me. Dude,
sit right next to me. Man, you know what I mean.
That'd be pretty cool. That'd be pretty cool. No, I
don't think so. How you feel about that? What would
your take be on coming to Green Bay?

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Man?

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Too many cowboy fans and audience. There's too many cowboy fans.
My fault, all right, listen, my fault.

Speaker 8 (50:44):
I'm in one of them.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Drew Ski three sixty deals, you feel me. I'm up
for lifeer, I like that. I can't.

Speaker 9 (50:52):
I can't go nowhere like man, Jerry Jones, who doesn't talk,
you know, that's my dog.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
And then Michael was hit by a car like Jerry said.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
All I could think about was Jerry going in there
after that ass kicking and hugging Micah and going.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
It was just like the scene and Goodwill Hunting.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
With Robin Williams and Matt Damon just telling them it
wasn't his fault.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
If God if those picks, you know, they're not gonna
be great picks, but it still is great. It is
good that the you know, you got multiple first round
picks in two years. For first round picks, you could
also trade back and get even more picks. You could
really reshape your roster in a great way, especially if

(51:37):
you're able to trade other guys. I would gut it
and completely rebuild as much as you can. I mean,
it's hard to say in the first year of a
sixty million dollars quarterback and what ced making aren't.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
Like a lot a lot, But this is the first
this is the first year of CDs deal, right.

Speaker 5 (51:52):
Yeah, and it's worth it. And Kenny Clark's interesting. Kenny
Clark is a really good player. I know a lot
of people are not happy with that right now now,
but what you see him, you'll go, oh my god, Yeah,
he's He love Tyrone Crawford. Way better than Tyrone Crawford
ever was no offense to him. Way better than Jay
Ratliffe ever was. And Jay Ratliffe was good for a while.
Has he always played in a three four until last year?

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Okay? Then we fell off all in week one, So
it's very confusing. Yeah, yeah, I just immediately what I
like to do is go to Madden. Just go to
the Madden ratings. If it's in the game, it's in
the game. Was on there, he's an eighty three. Okay,
Mike is in ninety eight.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
You know the Madden wouldn't have let you make that trade,
and he would have rejected the trade and said, Madden done.

Speaker 5 (52:34):
Like first round picks, but one year of Kenny Clark
at two point three million is great. The forty one
million that you would pay him in twenty six and
twenty seven you can get out of.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
You just won't have him on the team next year, right,
you know? So that's why that's that's the disconnect with
me on the trade. We got to stop the run.
We gotta start paying defensive tackles. We get our guy
right here. And I know you have to spin it,
and I understand all of that.

Speaker 5 (52:57):
Dude, getting a thirty year old Kenny Clark is not
the extra I'd rather have a second round pick from.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
Maybe they can't on the table, you know, no, no, exactly,
that's the problem. He's thirty or he's gonna be thirty
in October. There's no there's no plan. They're winging it.
There's no vision saying all right, we do need to
take a step back, we need to get younger, we
need to go get some draft picks.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
There's none of that.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
They made this move thinking it made their team better
right now, because Jerry's feelings were hurt.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
They like, they, I know what you're saying, but I
think deep down inside they know they didn't make their
team better. They addressed an area of weakness, but that's
just them saying that thing they said, because again, if
nothing changed since before March, Like if they really were
sitting there looking at it, going, we can't pay all
three of these guys as much money. We have too

(53:45):
many weaknesses, they would have done something back then. They
were you said it earlier, Ben, They were trying to
give Micah this money a week ago, and they were
trying to give them this money a week ago, and
this became emotional. And I will until I hear different.
I'm gonna believe that agent over there was like, Okay, Jerry,
let's see what's up, dog, because all these relationships matter,

(54:09):
these agent relationships, they matter so much, man, and you
go dump on one of these guys, Yeah, no problem,
I got some friends over here watch this.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
I also think it started spinning out of control in
a way that they didn't anticipate, like with Terrence Parsons
saying this thing is gonna go twelve rounds. Yeah, you know,
like they probably thought he would just get in line,
show up and play. But when he laid down on
that trainer's table when he was going flying somewhere to
get a second opinion on his back so he could
miss games, they realize, Oh, he like we're playing hardball

(54:39):
with him.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
He's playing hardball with us too. Yeah, I say, I,
why don't get a hustle here? Well, you know coming
next this is I have a message for Cowboys fans.

Speaker 5 (54:47):
I'm sure everyone wants to hear a message from a
Packers fan to Cowboys fans, But I do have something
that I think is a little hypocritical that needs to
be discussed. Plus shoddy. It's got to deal with all
this and more. Next, Ben and skin Show. Now twenty
seven point one The Eagle. We've been talking about it
all day long. Everyone in Dallas is talking about it.
Micah Parsons traded to the Green Bay Packers for a

(55:08):
thirty year old defensive tackle named Kenny Clark who.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Used to be pretty good.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
Maybe he could still be pretty good, and two future
first round picks next year and the year after that. Now, Kat,
you're just teasing a shoddy angle before we went to break.

Speaker 5 (55:23):
Yeah, this is a what Jerry said, they've been talking
about this trade for a long time.

Speaker 8 (55:26):
There was no question in our mind that Michael could
bring us a lot of resources on a trade that
has been on my mind since we hired. Brian did
an outstanding So.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
January, hold on because February, whatever that was, you could
have got way more than I. No, No, I agree
with you.

Speaker 4 (55:46):
I'm just so distracted by what Ben pointed out that
they were going to trade. And guess, Michael Irvin, is
that who they're going to trade? Well, he stick in
it's the documentary. Yeah, he's been watching the documentary all
that Michael most so much. Michael, he's caught in. He's
caught in a web of time. He does not It's
like Rebecca Demurtay.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
He can't brain is not reconciling whether that's really her
or not.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
Yeah, he said, he said, boy, we got rid of
that cocaine cowboy and send him to Green Bay.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
He's all confused. I do want to hear that again.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
But I want to point out something here because I
do think that they had discussions about it, and I
think the way that we know and y'all remember she
got lit up when she put it out there on Twitter,
or X or whatever you want to call it. But
Jane pointed this out three weeks again. Jane Slater pointed
this out when when camp first started. She was like,

(56:36):
they've entertained trading him many times, especially early in his career.
Some people wanted to trade him, but she pointed out
in those tweets that Jerry never wanted to.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
So listen, let's listen to this again.

Speaker 4 (56:48):
Knowing in the context that they've had conversations about trading
him in the past, there.

Speaker 8 (56:52):
Was no question in our mind that Michael could bring
us a lot of resources on a trade that has
been on my mind since we hired. Brian did an
outstanding job for us for four years and a little
bit of the way herschel Walker may have had his
greatest contribution to the Cowboys. What he brought to us

(57:12):
when he left could be a tremendous thing for our
fans and the success of this team.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
We look, We enjoyed it. We talked about it for
two weeks, but that documentary set this franchise back in another
five years. Yeah and less and less.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
They really do tear it down to the studs back.

Speaker 4 (57:36):
Makes it impossible, and seed makes it even harder. I mean,
if you're that, if you're fully gonna tank, they're not.
They could eat they could eat that. Okay, here's the
criteria of the trader, right.

Speaker 8 (57:47):
And we only picked teams that had room on their
cap they could pay Micah, and we only picked teams
that had and tear tackles. That was the criteria of trading.
And then if we could get the picks that we
ultimately getting, and we did have several teams that we
might have had an opportunity to do something, well, this
was no instantaneous happening this afternoon over about a five

(58:10):
minute period.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
Okay, that's that's probably partially true. That ain't what Schefter reported.
Schefter reported that the agent put the deal together. And
let me just tell you again, I said this earlier.
I know way more about the NBA than the NFL,
but that's absolutely how it happens in the NBA. Yeah,
in most circumstances. Now, it didn't happen with Luca, and

(58:34):
Luca was the rarity and there was.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
Only two people involved in that.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
But in the NBA, these agents put these deals together.
They look around, they go, my client would do well, here,
here's the cap space and they're the ones who start
these conversations. Ben, I know you don't want them to
go for it this year. I know you wanted to tank.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
I want them to take bad. I have some bad
news for you.

Speaker 8 (58:56):
Okay, Ben gives us four first round picks over the
next two years. Nothing says we can't use some of
those spakes right now to go get somebody right now.
Don't rule that out.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
Okay. I got McCaffrey over there. I saw that.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
I was like, what what time of the year do
you think this is? The season is starting? What what
deal are you going to go make to go get
a player to add to your team?

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Now? Where has this energy been all off season? They
love that Derrick Henry, you know what, man, I mean.

Speaker 7 (59:28):
I can see it the Netflix documentary till just now.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
He's watching it again right now.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
Who are some of the people that are out there
that are demanding trades like Micah that he could be
talking about that somebody who wants to be traded or no,
I don't.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
Know, man, I mean they traded herschel Walker mid season.
How about one. Let's carry it over. Okay, let's carry
it off.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
Carry it over, Kevy. All right, We're gonna keep this
conversation going. Next it is the world famous Ben and
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(01:00:13):
found some of the worst songs ever created. I'm going
to present them to you. But before we get to that,
we are still putting a bow on the Micah Parsons
trading with more on that. Here's Kevin Green Bay Packer Turner. Yeah,
so can I read this to you guys real quick?
This is from Bill Barnwell, you're CESPN. I thought this
was interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
The Cowboys needed to fix their run defense, and they
they're spinning it as a way. They are a reason
they did this trade. Okay, and I've heard Steven talk about,
well we can pressure, you know, we can scheme up
pressures and all that. Whatever you can blitz Kevin, Here's
what Bill Barno wrote, frankly, Well, the Cowboys needed to
upgrade the run defense this offseason. There's plenty ways they

(01:00:52):
could have done that. They could have signed Kenny Clark's
former teammate TJ. Slayton, who led all interior defensive linemen
and run stuff win rate. He signed a two year,
fourteen million dollar deal with the Bengals for seven million
a year. They could have had a run stopping defensive
tack wow. And the Packers could have kept him too.
So you can say this about every team. It's just

(01:01:13):
it's just very interesting. He ends up with I'm a
little surprised there aren't other teams willing to top this trade.
I did not for a second have faith when if
the phones are really ringing, that they were looking at
all offers and looking at them closely. I just never
for a second thought.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
I am one thousand percent convinced the agent took him
where he wanted him to be. I am a.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
Thousand percent until someone shows me different. And I read
the article when as soon as Schefter said what he said,
I'm telling you, man, these petty. This this became petty.
And Michael was the least petty guy of the three.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
But I think if they were being petty, they would
have just gone, oh, you want to go there, well,
we're not going to get you where you want to go. Also,
if they if regardless, if the agent does bring them this, dear,
they should go talk to everybody and find out if
they can get a better deal.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
For sure.

Speaker 4 (01:02:05):
Sure, no, you're right, but teams aren't in a position
to do these deals a week before the season.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Started, and they but they would have been if he didn't,
they would have been in January or February right for
a free agency.

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
They would have been for the draft. And this is
this is just bad and it's because this wasn't their plan.
This wasn't addressing a need. This was ego's got in
the way, and this is what the result is.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
This is this is it's so fitting that this is
happening around America's team the documentary, because that tells you
these problems that the Cowboys have been mired in for
the last thirty years, it's all because of ego and
very little has changed. This was a showdown based on ego.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
Ben They asked, Jerry, what do you say to fans
who call this a rebuild?

Speaker 9 (01:02:48):
Kenny Clark was a big part of this, that was
a part of winning. Right now, we hadn't been able
to win the big game in the playoffs, and we
think it is a direct connection to not being able
to stop the run. And we think Kenny Clark's going
to be a big piece of that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
What you think if this guy in his tenth year
is gonna be all the difference in the world stopping
a run.

Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
By the way, Micah's last playoff game wasn't too impressive.

Speaker 5 (01:03:09):
Oh, no doubt, dude. And that's the risk factor on
the Packer's side. Like the Packers draft a lot of
singles and doubles, they don't have a lot of superstar
potential one like the Packers have like their pass rush now,
Rashaan Gary, who was I think the thirteenth pick in
the draft, some guy named Lucas van Ness who's the
twelfth pick in the draft.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Michaeh was the twelfth pick in the draft.

Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
So they have three guys who are like top fifteen
picks somehow, a couple of those from Aaron Rodgers last year,
like they've got they have like five guys who can
rush the pass for now. The Packers' odds to win
the title went from eighteen to one to ten to
one right after this, but it is risky and his
injury stuff. And I think my quick message to anyone
who's like, well, I don't want him anyways. I mean,

(01:03:49):
he was laying on the table in the preseason game
and he was sulking. He should he was under conjuration.
But that's what Jerry wants you to think.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
So don't you.

Speaker 5 (01:03:57):
Don't have to be like, we can all watch the games,
but you you don't have to be brainwashed by that
blue star anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
It's okay.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
It sucks because it's very much like the Mavericks with Luca, like, look, okay,
like you want to tell me that you want to
trade this guy. Okay, well then let's go get the
biggest possible return you can and do it the right way.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
But if you we had to do it this way.
We had to take these old guys and hurt guy.
We had no choice.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
Because the league would like, what, like that's the worst
trade ever. And this is similar in that this isn't
the time of the season that you do this. You
don't do it right now, and it just goes to
show that there's no vision, there's no one in control.
They're not following a playbook or anything. It's all raw
emotion of like an eighty four year old man.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Are you.

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Are you guys? Friends with sad Yusef. He's on the.

Speaker 5 (01:04:52):
Somewhat popular one Star Cowboys podcast. Boy, he stumped Jerry
last night. This is this question and answer back and forth.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
Do you have any regrets over the process of the
last few months and how things went?

Speaker 10 (01:05:06):
Uh? Oh, boy, I am very excited about, very excited
on any consideration of a regret of the consideration that
we got in this trade and to have the player.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
In terms of the things that were said in the
media about the agent, any things like that.

Speaker 7 (01:05:31):
Do you pray Is there any things that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
You would do differently if you were to go back?

Speaker 8 (01:05:35):
Oh? No, no, not at all.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Of course.

Speaker 7 (01:05:38):
Of course.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
I love the phrase, I'm very excited about, very excited
you up there with great summer. Let's go get them.
It's incredible. Do you know what that reminded me of?

Speaker 4 (01:05:50):
That reminded me of the clip in America's Team when
he can't he can't compose himself to say he's not
going to put Jerry in the ring of honor. That Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, Sorry,
he just stops and he's like all frustrated in his head.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
He's got to swallow hard and he goes.

Speaker 4 (01:06:07):
As of right now, Jimmy Johnson is not going in
the Ring of Honor.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
I'm sure the story's not going away. Mike's gonna knock
back out for the season in fourrible sure we'll be
talking about it all year long, all right,