February 27, 2025 • 13 mins
Big Ben broke out the report cards of these two actors who have been pitted against each other for years.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you for hanging out with us today. Now, this
segment is brought to you by roller Town Beer Works.
That's the brewery up there in Salina, Texas that Ben
and I are partners in. I think the thing we're
most excited about right now is the big Chili cookoff
on Saturday, the wild West Chili Fest. We got live music,
(00:20):
we have a vendor market, but more than anything, we
have that big Chili cookoff and it is going to
be legit. So get on up there. Twenty fresh local
beers on tap, an incredible selection of IPAs right now.
And then of course we're outing about all kinds of
different restaurants and venues. In fact, if you're going out
to the mav game tonight, heck, go by ben a Beer.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
He's going to be there. By Christina Beer.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
She's going to be there Rollertown, Rollertown's big Germans on
the concourse level. It's at a bunch of different stands.
And then go grab one on tap at Chop Shop
before after the game or at Hero and it can
before after the game. We are out and about and
everywhere Town beer Works. But right now it's time for this.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Oh thank you, Cynthia. Man.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
We heard the news and the Hollywood shuffle that Gene Hackman,
his wife, and one of his dogs were found dead,
very very sad, and this particular segment, we'll want to
spend any time getting into the news story or any
of the things that surround that. We just wanted to
kind of tip our caps to the great Gene Hackman
if we could and skin How did we ever stumble
(01:32):
into the debate between that classic old rivalry who's a
better actor, Gene Hackman or Michael Kaine.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I don't remember, but.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I think it had to do with the idea of
a starting quarterback.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Okay, okay, okay, does that sound right?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
So I the way I the lens in which I
look at a lot of these actors is I turn
it back to sports and I'm like, Okay, if Gene
Hackman is your starting quarterback, you can win that movie.
You can win that game. He is a great leading man.
And it really comes down to I mean, look at it,
like PJ. Washington the other night against the Lakers, he
(02:09):
was forced into being the MAVs second most important player.
That's a little better when he's your third or fourth
most important player. Right now, you've got some serious depth.
But if you have to have PJ. Washington as the
lead actor, if he's your best player, then you're kind
of what the Hornets used to be. Right. I'm remembering
this really well because I think my contention is that
(02:30):
Gene Hackman was a system quarterback, and so if you
put him in a system like Hoosiers, where you know,
it's not contingent on being about the leading man, it's
about the story. Because you know, one of the things
that Gene Hackman was known for is that he was
He did a really amazing job of playing the quote
unquote every man. And when he really got on people's
(02:53):
radars was with Bonnie and Clyde, and he was just
sort of all right, this is just kind of.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
A Middle America.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I mean, here's Warren Batty over here looking like a
matinee superstar sex machine. But Gene Hackman was like, man,
this guy's an amazing actor. He's the everyman. He's all
of us. But depending on the season, if you have
the right system, in a really good defense, he could
quarterback you to a super Bowl. Right, And you think
(03:20):
that Michael Kaine is a better system quarterback than Gene Hackman, No,
I think they're I think Michael Kaine's the equivalent to
Jacah Hackman.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
They're the equivalent, Well they're the same.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Base That became a second that became a secondary debate
because I would maintain that Gene Hackman is a far
superior actor to the great Michael Kane.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
But then you get into a situation.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Where you're being forced to take the position that tears
down someone who's awesome. I don't want to tear down
Michael Kaine. I think Michael Kaine's great, but I do
want to talk about some of the Why are you
tearing down Michael Kaine? It's Gene Hackman's death. I want
to talk about a lot of these great movie need
to see Blame it on Rio again? Oh God, such
a good film with Joseph Mologna. Okay, so ask a
quick Michael Kaine questions, Yes, exciting.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Is it bad that all I know him from is
when he one of the Alfreds?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah he was in the Batman movie. Okay, No, not
that's not bad at all. What else you're young? Gene
Hackman died at held.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Ninety five, and he hasn't His last movie was O.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Four, Okay, and so Michael Caine, I think is ninety
one or ninety three?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Is he not old? Ninety one? Okay?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Okay, so he's ninety one, So no, it's not you're
a young man. That's not a common but this is
an older actor in Mine and Skins Lives and we're
older dudes. So but if you wanted to see a
good Michael Caine movie, to really get the full scale
of the greatness of Michael Caine, I would recommend Dirty
Rotten Scoundrel mart Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Oh, was he in gold Member? That's great?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
What was the movie he was in where he was
a psychiatrist and he's about dressed to kill dressed to
kill badass?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
That's a Brian de Palmer. Oh that was a good movie. Okay,
he was? He was?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
He was in the original Get Carter, that Sylvester's Alone remade, right,
he was in the nineteen sixty nine British version or
something like that. So if you had to guess which
actor was in has been in more movies, Gene Hackman
or Michael Kaine, I would say Gene Hackman because he's American.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Okay, Yeah, I would say Gene Hackman because he's four
years older. When he died than Michael Kanner's ninety one.
I'm going Gene Hackman just because I know more movies
besides just Alfred.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Like Kat said, I'm a pivot.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I'm gonna say Michael Kaine because, as I told you,
Gene Hackman's last movie was two thousand and four Welcome
to the Sport.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
So Gene Hackman.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
It's interesting because when I googled this, they didn't give
me an exact number.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
They said Gene Hackman was in about eighty movies, and.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Then so I looked it up for Michael Kaine, they
said he was in about one hundred and sixty films.
Oh okay, yeah, okay, However, volume shooter. You know, we
can look at their report cards in this now. Before
we get to their comparative report cards. I do want
to mention some of the greatest movies, and it would
love to get anyone's thoughts. And I'm sure Skin and
I are far more familiar with these movies. But I'm
gonna throw some of my favorites out. Royal ten and Bombs. Yeah,
(06:04):
she's dating Wes Anderson Acolyte, so I would think that
she's very familiar with that.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I love that movie. Great.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Oh good, have you ever you want to talk some jive?
Let's talk some jive Coltrane? He goes, and he has
you call me Coltrane. No, but but if I did, yes, Uh, yeah,
so that's great. He was.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
He was perfect in that role.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I man, I kind of want to see if kat
has the stamina to make it through the conversation.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Okay. Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
There are so many other films of his that I love. Uh,
there's gonna be some of these you haven't seen, because
I see every terrible movie.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Enemy of the State with Will Smith. I never saw that.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
I remember that being promoted heavily in the late nineties.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Heist with Sam Rockwall. Never saw Rockwell.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I love Sam Rockwell, but I never saw that the
firm I did see that.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
It's a long time.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Unfortunately, Wilfrid Brimley was the bad guy, and which isn't believable,
but God, Gene Hackman was awesome that. Of course Hoosiers.
He was such a believable basketball coach. He was great
in Hoosier's Fantastic. Probably that in Mississippi Burning were probably
the roles he's most known for. I would think Get Shorty,
which was a comedy really really good. He's great, he's
(07:20):
great and everything he's in. Unforgiven was his one of
his westerns. He was great in that, directed by Clint Eastwood,
No Way Out. I love in her film. I love
him in No Way Out. He plays a corrupt senator
and he's really really good in that. He was great
as Lex Luthor and Superman badass in that. I went
back and watched this one recently. I don't know why,
(07:41):
but the French Connection, that movie's badass. It's really good.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Oh my god. See, he gets connected addicted to heroin.
They forced him to get addicted to heroin.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Or something, and then he has to snap out of
it and still solve all the crime. So he was
on a run. Basically. It started with Bonnie and Clyde.
But when he did The French Connection, which was a
Landmark film, I mean it was a landmark film. You
want to talk about the whole anti hero dirty cop thing,
I mean it goes back to the French Connection. And
(08:12):
then he did which was a William Friedkin movie. And
then he did The Conversation, which was a Coppola movie
that he did after the success of the Godfathers, and
that movie is badass, and it really the whole movie
centers around Hackman's performance and how he starts going crazy,
is he gets more and more intertwined in the surveillance life,
(08:33):
like that's a he's setting the stage in the early
seventies for the kind of work he's going to do forever.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
He was also in the Poseidon adventure.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
You know, the ship, the big ocean liner gets turned
upside down and one brave hero has to, you know,
guide everyone to safety.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Was he the hero? He's that guy, He's the Gene Heckman,
He's that guy.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
And then you know, see, I maintain that Michael Kaine
is one of the greatest actors of all time.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
But he's one of the greatest.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
It's like saying in uh, he's Scottie Pippen to me,
I don't think he's ever gonna be Michael Jordan. And
in some cases, Gene Hackman could morph into being Michael
Jordan for your.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Squad and if it was Hoosiers, so the two.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, Like so obviously, when you start talking about who's
the greatest actor of all time, a lot of people
think it's Denzel Washington. And if you take Crimson Tide
now You've got Denzel and Gene Hackman squaring off, and
that is a badass movie. He's generally, I think this
is what the impudence of the conversation was. I think
he's a character actor for the most part. There's very
(09:34):
few films where he was the leading man in it, right,
but he's always a prominent part of it. Like, for example,
you just mentioned that Denzel was the one A in
that No Way Out. Kevin Costner was the one A
in that. Actually during the French Connection, Scheider was your
one A in that right now, he was the lead
in the conversation for example. But he was generally more
(09:55):
of a character actor than a lead doctor. I'd say
he's not really a character actor, but he's also not
really a lead dog.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
He's more of a but to me.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Build movies around him, could there his roles that he
was great for a movie, good enough to take you
to a super Bowl, but he could in the right
Michael Kine is like was even Michael.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Kaine was definitely a character actor.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Like not he's not even on Gene Hackman's quite on
his level, but he's close, but he's not quite there.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
But what we're gonna say, well, I feel like we're
kind of talking about these guys like theyre Trent Dilfer
or Carry Collins or something. I feel like we're more
in the Dak Kirk Cousins realm.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, maybe so maybe so maybe that's
where this conversation.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Hackman is Dak.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I think he's Dackman, and I think I think I'm
blanking on the other dude, Michael Michael Kaine is who.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Is that like Dak? I mean maybe Gene Hackman's romo
and Dak is for an older crowd.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Dak is Shane Falco in the replacement. I think I
think Gene Hackman is Danny White. Okay, I can't expect
that he got you do some he got you to
some conference championship games, but he was also the punter
and no one ever expected you to get to the
super Bowl with Okay, so let's just look at it
like this. In about eighty films, this is Gene Hackman's
(11:14):
report card compared to in about one hundred and sixty films,
Michael Kaine's report card Academy Awards. And he guesses on
what the score is nominations or wins, wins. I think
Gene Hackman won for Mississippi Burning.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I believe. What do you think the score is there
between those two actors. I think, yeah, one to nothing, Gene, it's.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Two to two. Teach of them has two Academy Awards. Okay,
well are they both for Supporting Actor?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I don't have all that information. Okay, we'll get back
to you.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
On that Golden Globes, the score is four to three
Michael Kaine, because globes are more global. Gene Hackman has
four and Michael Caine has three. Okay, British Academy Film Awards,
Michael Kaine, now, Gene Hackman has two. Michael Kaine has
(12:02):
won well, even the Brits, and then in Screen Actors
Guild Awards they each have one. And so basically Michael Kaine,
at the age of ninety one now has a few
years to go, get some films, and if he could
win one British Academy Film Award in one Golden Globe,
he will tie the great Gene Hackman, and I think
(12:23):
he will knock that out this year. Rest in peace,
Gene Hackman. I'll never forget the time that Kat had
a chance to be a presenter at the SAG Awards.
He looked the entire audience dead in the eye. He
stood up on that podium and he said, Jene's oscar
was for the French Connection.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
He said that confirming a thought from an earlier time.
Was it best supporting actor.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Supporting actor was unforgiven. He was best actor French Connection.
That's what I told.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
In your face, skin in my face. Christina's next here
on the Eagle.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
There you going, well, I'm gonna get my sack bag. Dude,
I got to take a boo book
Thank you for hanging out with us today. Now, this
segment is brought to you by roller Town Beer Works.
That's the brewery up there in Salina, Texas that Ben
and I are partners in. I think the thing we're
most excited about right now is the big Chili cookoff
on Saturday, the wild West Chili Fest. We got live music,
(00:20):
we have a vendor market, but more than anything, we
have that big Chili cookoff and it is going to
be legit. So get on up there. Twenty fresh local
beers on tap, an incredible selection of IPAs right now.
And then of course we're outing about all kinds of
different restaurants and venues. In fact, if you're going out
to the mav game tonight, heck, go by ben a Beer.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
He's going to be there. By Christina Beer.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
She's going to be there Rollertown, Rollertown's big Germans on
the concourse level. It's at a bunch of different stands.
And then go grab one on tap at Chop Shop
before after the game or at Hero and it can
before after the game. We are out and about and
everywhere Town beer Works. But right now it's time for this.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Oh thank you, Cynthia. Man.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
We heard the news and the Hollywood shuffle that Gene Hackman,
his wife, and one of his dogs were found dead,
very very sad, and this particular segment, we'll want to
spend any time getting into the news story or any
of the things that surround that. We just wanted to
kind of tip our caps to the great Gene Hackman
if we could and skin How did we ever stumble
(01:32):
into the debate between that classic old rivalry who's a
better actor, Gene Hackman or Michael Kaine.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I don't remember, but.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I think it had to do with the idea of
a starting quarterback.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Okay, okay, okay, does that sound right?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
So I the way I the lens in which I
look at a lot of these actors is I turn
it back to sports and I'm like, Okay, if Gene
Hackman is your starting quarterback, you can win that movie.
You can win that game. He is a great leading man.
And it really comes down to I mean, look at it,
like PJ. Washington the other night against the Lakers, he
(02:09):
was forced into being the MAVs second most important player.
That's a little better when he's your third or fourth
most important player. Right now, you've got some serious depth.
But if you have to have PJ. Washington as the
lead actor, if he's your best player, then you're kind
of what the Hornets used to be. Right. I'm remembering
this really well because I think my contention is that
(02:30):
Gene Hackman was a system quarterback, and so if you
put him in a system like Hoosiers, where you know,
it's not contingent on being about the leading man, it's
about the story. Because you know, one of the things
that Gene Hackman was known for is that he was
He did a really amazing job of playing the quote
unquote every man. And when he really got on people's
(02:53):
radars was with Bonnie and Clyde, and he was just
sort of all right, this is just kind of.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
A Middle America.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I mean, here's Warren Batty over here looking like a
matinee superstar sex machine. But Gene Hackman was like, man,
this guy's an amazing actor. He's the everyman. He's all
of us. But depending on the season, if you have
the right system, in a really good defense, he could
quarterback you to a super Bowl. Right, And you think
(03:20):
that Michael Kaine is a better system quarterback than Gene Hackman, No,
I think they're I think Michael Kaine's the equivalent to
Jacah Hackman.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
They're the equivalent, Well they're the same.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Base That became a second that became a secondary debate
because I would maintain that Gene Hackman is a far
superior actor to the great Michael Kane.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
But then you get into a situation.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Where you're being forced to take the position that tears
down someone who's awesome. I don't want to tear down
Michael Kaine. I think Michael Kaine's great, but I do
want to talk about some of the Why are you
tearing down Michael Kaine? It's Gene Hackman's death. I want
to talk about a lot of these great movie need
to see Blame it on Rio again? Oh God, such
a good film with Joseph Mologna. Okay, so ask a
quick Michael Kaine questions, Yes, exciting.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Is it bad that all I know him from is
when he one of the Alfreds?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah he was in the Batman movie. Okay, No, not
that's not bad at all. What else you're young? Gene
Hackman died at held.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Ninety five, and he hasn't His last movie was O.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Four, Okay, and so Michael Caine, I think is ninety
one or ninety three?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Is he not old? Ninety one? Okay?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Okay, so he's ninety one, So no, it's not you're
a young man. That's not a common but this is
an older actor in Mine and Skins Lives and we're
older dudes. So but if you wanted to see a
good Michael Caine movie, to really get the full scale
of the greatness of Michael Caine, I would recommend Dirty
Rotten Scoundrel mart Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Oh, was he in gold Member? That's great?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
What was the movie he was in where he was
a psychiatrist and he's about dressed to kill dressed to
kill badass?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
That's a Brian de Palmer. Oh that was a good movie. Okay,
he was? He was?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
He was in the original Get Carter, that Sylvester's Alone remade, right,
he was in the nineteen sixty nine British version or
something like that. So if you had to guess which
actor was in has been in more movies, Gene Hackman
or Michael Kaine, I would say Gene Hackman because he's American.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Okay, Yeah, I would say Gene Hackman because he's four
years older. When he died than Michael Kanner's ninety one.
I'm going Gene Hackman just because I know more movies
besides just Alfred.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Like Kat said, I'm a pivot.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I'm gonna say Michael Kaine because, as I told you,
Gene Hackman's last movie was two thousand and four Welcome
to the Sport.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
So Gene Hackman.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
It's interesting because when I googled this, they didn't give
me an exact number.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
They said Gene Hackman was in about eighty movies, and.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Then so I looked it up for Michael Kaine, they
said he was in about one hundred and sixty films.
Oh okay, yeah, okay, However, volume shooter. You know, we
can look at their report cards in this now. Before
we get to their comparative report cards. I do want
to mention some of the greatest movies, and it would
love to get anyone's thoughts. And I'm sure Skin and
I are far more familiar with these movies. But I'm
gonna throw some of my favorites out. Royal ten and Bombs. Yeah,
(06:04):
she's dating Wes Anderson Acolyte, so I would think that
she's very familiar with that.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I love that movie. Great.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Oh good, have you ever you want to talk some jive?
Let's talk some jive Coltrane? He goes, and he has
you call me Coltrane. No, but but if I did, yes, Uh, yeah,
so that's great. He was.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
He was perfect in that role.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I man, I kind of want to see if kat
has the stamina to make it through the conversation.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Okay. Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
There are so many other films of his that I love. Uh,
there's gonna be some of these you haven't seen, because
I see every terrible movie.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Enemy of the State with Will Smith. I never saw that.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
I remember that being promoted heavily in the late nineties.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Heist with Sam Rockwall. Never saw Rockwell.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I love Sam Rockwell, but I never saw that the
firm I did see that.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
It's a long time.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Unfortunately, Wilfrid Brimley was the bad guy, and which isn't believable,
but God, Gene Hackman was awesome that. Of course Hoosiers.
He was such a believable basketball coach. He was great
in Hoosier's Fantastic. Probably that in Mississippi Burning were probably
the roles he's most known for. I would think Get Shorty,
which was a comedy really really good. He's great, he's
(07:20):
great and everything he's in. Unforgiven was his one of
his westerns. He was great in that, directed by Clint Eastwood,
No Way Out. I love in her film. I love
him in No Way Out. He plays a corrupt senator
and he's really really good in that. He was great
as Lex Luthor and Superman badass in that. I went
back and watched this one recently. I don't know why,
(07:41):
but the French Connection, that movie's badass. It's really good.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Oh my god. See, he gets connected addicted to heroin.
They forced him to get addicted to heroin.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Or something, and then he has to snap out of
it and still solve all the crime. So he was
on a run. Basically. It started with Bonnie and Clyde.
But when he did The French Connection, which was a
Landmark film, I mean it was a landmark film. You
want to talk about the whole anti hero dirty cop thing,
I mean it goes back to the French Connection. And
(08:12):
then he did which was a William Friedkin movie. And
then he did The Conversation, which was a Coppola movie
that he did after the success of the Godfathers, and
that movie is badass, and it really the whole movie
centers around Hackman's performance and how he starts going crazy,
is he gets more and more intertwined in the surveillance life,
(08:33):
like that's a he's setting the stage in the early
seventies for the kind of work he's going to do forever.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
He was also in the Poseidon adventure.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
You know, the ship, the big ocean liner gets turned
upside down and one brave hero has to, you know,
guide everyone to safety.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Was he the hero? He's that guy, He's the Gene Heckman,
He's that guy.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
And then you know, see, I maintain that Michael Kaine
is one of the greatest actors of all time.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
But he's one of the greatest.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
It's like saying in uh, he's Scottie Pippen to me,
I don't think he's ever gonna be Michael Jordan. And
in some cases, Gene Hackman could morph into being Michael
Jordan for your.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Squad and if it was Hoosiers, so the two.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, Like so obviously, when you start talking about who's
the greatest actor of all time, a lot of people
think it's Denzel Washington. And if you take Crimson Tide
now You've got Denzel and Gene Hackman squaring off, and
that is a badass movie. He's generally, I think this
is what the impudence of the conversation was. I think
he's a character actor for the most part. There's very
(09:34):
few films where he was the leading man in it, right,
but he's always a prominent part of it. Like, for example,
you just mentioned that Denzel was the one A in
that No Way Out. Kevin Costner was the one A
in that. Actually during the French Connection, Scheider was your
one A in that right now, he was the lead
in the conversation for example. But he was generally more
(09:55):
of a character actor than a lead doctor. I'd say
he's not really a character actor, but he's also not
really a lead dog.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
He's more of a but to me.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Build movies around him, could there his roles that he
was great for a movie, good enough to take you
to a super Bowl, but he could in the right
Michael Kine is like was even Michael.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Kaine was definitely a character actor.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Like not he's not even on Gene Hackman's quite on
his level, but he's close, but he's not quite there.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
But what we're gonna say, well, I feel like we're
kind of talking about these guys like theyre Trent Dilfer
or Carry Collins or something. I feel like we're more
in the Dak Kirk Cousins realm.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, maybe so maybe so maybe that's
where this conversation.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Hackman is Dak.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I think he's Dackman, and I think I think I'm
blanking on the other dude, Michael Michael Kaine is who.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Is that like Dak? I mean maybe Gene Hackman's romo
and Dak is for an older crowd.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Dak is Shane Falco in the replacement. I think I
think Gene Hackman is Danny White. Okay, I can't expect
that he got you do some he got you to
some conference championship games, but he was also the punter
and no one ever expected you to get to the
super Bowl with Okay, so let's just look at it
like this. In about eighty films, this is Gene Hackman's
(11:14):
report card compared to in about one hundred and sixty films,
Michael Kaine's report card Academy Awards. And he guesses on
what the score is nominations or wins, wins. I think
Gene Hackman won for Mississippi Burning.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I believe. What do you think the score is there
between those two actors. I think, yeah, one to nothing, Gene, it's.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Two to two. Teach of them has two Academy Awards. Okay,
well are they both for Supporting Actor?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I don't have all that information. Okay, we'll get back
to you.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
On that Golden Globes, the score is four to three
Michael Kaine, because globes are more global. Gene Hackman has
four and Michael Caine has three. Okay, British Academy Film Awards,
Michael Kaine, now, Gene Hackman has two. Michael Kaine has
(12:02):
won well, even the Brits, and then in Screen Actors
Guild Awards they each have one. And so basically Michael Kaine,
at the age of ninety one now has a few
years to go, get some films, and if he could
win one British Academy Film Award in one Golden Globe,
he will tie the great Gene Hackman, and I think
(12:23):
he will knock that out this year. Rest in peace,
Gene Hackman. I'll never forget the time that Kat had
a chance to be a presenter at the SAG Awards.
He looked the entire audience dead in the eye. He
stood up on that podium and he said, Jene's oscar
was for the French Connection.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
He said that confirming a thought from an earlier time.
Was it best supporting actor.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Supporting actor was unforgiven. He was best actor French Connection.
That's what I told.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
In your face, skin in my face. Christina's next here
on the Eagle.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
There you going, well, I'm gonna get my sack bag. Dude,
I got to take a boo book
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