October 21, 2025 • 6 mins
Cooper Flagg’s high school coach sets the tone for this basketball segment of The Ben and Skin Show.Join Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray as they dive deep into the legend of Cooper Flagg, the Mavericks’ newest #1 pick, and the wild intensity that fuels his game. From Maine gym dominance to Montverde superstardom, this episode is a full-on celebration of the future face of Dallas basketball.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ben and Skin Show ninety seven point one The Eagle
Oh in thirty minutes. We have a wayback machine. I
can't wait to see what Kati has in that for
us today. Also, we'll be giving away bad Omens tickets.
They're coming to the American Airlines Center in March. You
have to have the iHeart app with the talkback feature
and be listening to the whole show.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
To win.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
We'll give you some clues and then you'll have a
chance to answer the question and when later in the show.
We're giving those away all week long. But right now
it's time for this.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Skinn Is track, another edition of things skin Is Traffic.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
All right, I have a Cooper flag on the mine
for a couple different reasons. One is there's a so
this is the forty fifth year of the Dallas Mavericks,
so they're rolling out all this programming and jerseys. Have
these hardwood classics jerseys. Have you seen those online?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
That?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
The green ones.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
People are loving yod love it.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah. There's so many people on the internet that kill
everything that's ever happened, and I have not seen that.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I've seen nothing but positive reviews for this.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
This is very good and it makes up for the
time they wore those gold uniforms.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Fair.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Oh was that the or what about the silver shark
skin ones? Remember those that they sweat on and suddenly
they looked at I think they got from four or something.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, just the diddy ones. I thought those were described
as Pewter.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
There were Pewter Pewter, which is a bad name, too
close to Pooter.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah, so I'm because of this. There's a thing that
we shot for MAVs TV last night. That was a
dinner with Derek Harper, Mark Aguire, Sam Perkins, and Rolando Blackman. Wow,
and it was really cool and we'll batter in the
air and just just for the you know, I say
this a lot. But if you'd told you know, fourteen
(01:49):
year old skin, hey, guess what, in forty years you're
gonna be sitting at a table with those four guys
you're watching right now, wouldn't have believed it.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Now you're gonna be like, I'm gonna live for forty
more years just hosting it by yourself or was there
someone else there? I was the moderator. I guess you
would go out. So how did you handle it?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Not?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Well?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I had like a rundown that I thought we would
kind of do, but I also knew it could change.
But I was five minutes into it and I was like,
they did not need me. Harp should have just moderated this.
You know, Harp was incredible. They were all incredible, and
I can't wait for people to see it.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
But keep in mind, Mark Guire is the first number
one pick for the Dallas Mavericks that they actually drafted,
second draft they ever had, and then their next number
one pick is Cooper Flag and so there's you know,
it's good that Mark's kind of getting back into the
fray now. But he said something last night. It's so
amazing when these guys from that generation get together and
(02:48):
start telling stories and they remember every detail of every play.
And a Guire was talking about not getting his national
championship at DePaul because they lost in a game, and
he was talking about how the play was run wrong
and how he ended up having to take a last
second shot that didn't go in that ended their title run.
(03:11):
And I'm sitting and it was obvious that I'm, you know,
sitting here talking to this sixty year old man and
he did not.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Get over it. Wow.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Okay, because his buddy Magic Johnson got one. And and
so anyways, I'm sitting here thinking as I'm watching this
and how it fueled him, and I'm like, Cooper Flagg
didn't get his championship at Duke and he missed the.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Last second shot.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
That Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
And I was sitting there thinking, he's a guy that
has so much drive that you know, I want him
to be happy, so I want him to have won
his championship. But I was also kind of sitting there
thinking the fact that he didn't get his championship might
drive him extra intense.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
He's a maniac.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
He's a competitive maniac, and that's probably the best thing
Cooper Flagg has. It's just this drive to kill everyone
on the court.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
You will like this if you haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Ben Mike Curtis of the Dallas Morning News wrote a
great article about Cooper Flag that came out today, very insightful.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
If you haven't read it yet, find the time to
read it.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
But it did have this quote kind of related to
what Ben just said, But I'd just like to read
it out of context and get your reaction. Christina didn't
have to get in his ass a lot to make
him go hard.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Your thoughts. Clearly the drive.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
He didn't have to really stay on top of someone
and make them go go one on.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
The court to go hard.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yes, Yeah, I think that's a fair assessment.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
She's good, she knows what she's doing.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Didn't have to get in his ass a lot to
make him go hard.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Well, that's such an old sports guy speak.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
It's shocking. Who said that his high school coach.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
That's what coaches used to be, like, I'm gonna have
to chew out the team in halftime, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I'm like, no, you do not have to say it
like that, right, But it's to make him go hard,
to make him go hard?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Right? Uh?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Do you guys know his what his high school story was?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Good? Trenton.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Didn't he go to Florida, transferred to like one of
those old superstars.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Berde where they have twenty five number one picks or whatever.
But you do know he played one year at Maine, Yeah,
which is like dunking on only kids. Okay, So in
his freshman year at that main high school in which
they won state as a freshman, twenty point five points,
ten rebounds, six assists, four steals.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
And four blocks as a freshman.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Bet he looked like he was playing with a bunch
of Verne Troyer's out there on the court.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Right. His mom has His mom is a player, and
she has this quote and it's if you're the best
player in the gym, then you need to go find
a new gym, right man.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
That's badass man, he is.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
He's going to posterize some people this year, like he
dunks the ball with ferocity, like he goes in hard.
And there's been some that he's made and there's been
some that he's missed. But he's fearless too posterize somebody.
And I cannot wait. I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And I'm ninety nine percent sure he's starting at point
guard tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
So there you go, just some Cooper flags. Yes, ready,
getting that ass? Make it hard? All right?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Coming up next, KT, where are you gonna take us
in the Hollywood Shuffle?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Well, a politician is trying to change the way we
watch TV until the end of time.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
And I'll tell you what next.
Ben and Skin Show ninety seven point one The Eagle
Oh in thirty minutes. We have a wayback machine. I
can't wait to see what Kati has in that for
us today. Also, we'll be giving away bad Omens tickets.
They're coming to the American Airlines Center in March. You
have to have the iHeart app with the talkback feature
and be listening to the whole show.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
To win.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
We'll give you some clues and then you'll have a
chance to answer the question and when later in the show.
We're giving those away all week long. But right now
it's time for this.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Skinn Is track, another edition of things skin Is Traffic.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
All right, I have a Cooper flag on the mine
for a couple different reasons. One is there's a so
this is the forty fifth year of the Dallas Mavericks,
so they're rolling out all this programming and jerseys. Have
these hardwood classics jerseys. Have you seen those online?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
That?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
The green ones.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
People are loving yod love it.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah. There's so many people on the internet that kill
everything that's ever happened, and I have not seen that.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I've seen nothing but positive reviews for this.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
This is very good and it makes up for the
time they wore those gold uniforms.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Fair.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Oh was that the or what about the silver shark
skin ones? Remember those that they sweat on and suddenly
they looked at I think they got from four or something.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, just the diddy ones. I thought those were described
as Pewter.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
There were Pewter Pewter, which is a bad name, too
close to Pooter.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah, so I'm because of this. There's a thing that
we shot for MAVs TV last night. That was a
dinner with Derek Harper, Mark Aguire, Sam Perkins, and Rolando Blackman. Wow,
and it was really cool and we'll batter in the
air and just just for the you know, I say
this a lot. But if you'd told you know, fourteen
(01:49):
year old skin, hey, guess what, in forty years you're
gonna be sitting at a table with those four guys
you're watching right now, wouldn't have believed it.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Now you're gonna be like, I'm gonna live for forty
more years just hosting it by yourself or was there
someone else there? I was the moderator. I guess you
would go out. So how did you handle it?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Not?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Well?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I had like a rundown that I thought we would
kind of do, but I also knew it could change.
But I was five minutes into it and I was like,
they did not need me. Harp should have just moderated this.
You know, Harp was incredible. They were all incredible, and
I can't wait for people to see it.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
But keep in mind, Mark Guire is the first number
one pick for the Dallas Mavericks that they actually drafted,
second draft they ever had, and then their next number
one pick is Cooper Flag and so there's you know,
it's good that Mark's kind of getting back into the
fray now. But he said something last night. It's so
amazing when these guys from that generation get together and
(02:48):
start telling stories and they remember every detail of every play.
And a Guire was talking about not getting his national
championship at DePaul because they lost in a game, and
he was talking about how the play was run wrong
and how he ended up having to take a last
second shot that didn't go in that ended their title run.
(03:11):
And I'm sitting and it was obvious that I'm, you know,
sitting here talking to this sixty year old man and
he did not.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Get over it. Wow.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Okay, because his buddy Magic Johnson got one. And and
so anyways, I'm sitting here thinking as I'm watching this
and how it fueled him, and I'm like, Cooper Flagg
didn't get his championship at Duke and he missed the.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Last second shot.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
That Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
And I was sitting there thinking, he's a guy that
has so much drive that you know, I want him
to be happy, so I want him to have won
his championship. But I was also kind of sitting there
thinking the fact that he didn't get his championship might
drive him extra intense.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
He's a maniac.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
He's a competitive maniac, and that's probably the best thing
Cooper Flagg has. It's just this drive to kill everyone
on the court.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
You will like this if you haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Ben Mike Curtis of the Dallas Morning News wrote a
great article about Cooper Flag that came out today, very insightful.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
If you haven't read it yet, find the time to
read it.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
But it did have this quote kind of related to
what Ben just said, But I'd just like to read
it out of context and get your reaction. Christina didn't
have to get in his ass a lot to make
him go hard.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Your thoughts. Clearly the drive.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
He didn't have to really stay on top of someone
and make them go go one on.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
The court to go hard.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yes, Yeah, I think that's a fair assessment.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
She's good, she knows what she's doing.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Didn't have to get in his ass a lot to
make him go hard.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Well, that's such an old sports guy speak.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
It's shocking. Who said that his high school coach.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
That's what coaches used to be, like, I'm gonna have
to chew out the team in halftime, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I'm like, no, you do not have to say it
like that, right, But it's to make him go hard,
to make him go hard?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Right? Uh?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Do you guys know his what his high school story was?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Good? Trenton.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Didn't he go to Florida, transferred to like one of
those old superstars.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Berde where they have twenty five number one picks or whatever.
But you do know he played one year at Maine, Yeah,
which is like dunking on only kids. Okay, So in
his freshman year at that main high school in which
they won state as a freshman, twenty point five points,
ten rebounds, six assists, four steals.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
And four blocks as a freshman.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Bet he looked like he was playing with a bunch
of Verne Troyer's out there on the court.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Right. His mom has His mom is a player, and
she has this quote and it's if you're the best
player in the gym, then you need to go find
a new gym, right man.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
That's badass man, he is.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
He's going to posterize some people this year, like he
dunks the ball with ferocity, like he goes in hard.
And there's been some that he's made and there's been
some that he's missed. But he's fearless too posterize somebody.
And I cannot wait. I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And I'm ninety nine percent sure he's starting at point
guard tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
So there you go, just some Cooper flags. Yes, ready,
getting that ass? Make it hard? All right?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Coming up next, KT, where are you gonna take us
in the Hollywood Shuffle?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Well, a politician is trying to change the way we
watch TV until the end of time.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
And I'll tell you what next.
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