June 26, 2025 • 16 mins
On this electric episode of The Ben and Skin Show, broadcasting live from the American Airlines Center, Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray dive headfirst into one of the most pivotal nights in Dallas Mavericks history: the selection of Cooper Flagg as the #1 overall pick in the NBA Draft.From the ashes of the controversial Luka Doncic trade rises a new beacon of hope. The crew unpacks the emotional rollercoaster of the past six months, the trauma of losing Luka, and the unexpected joy of landing a generational talent. Cooper Flagg isn’t just a top prospect—he’s being hailed as the best two-way player since Anthony Davis, and the Mavs fanbase is buzzing with cautious optimism.From his love of Larry Bird to his trainer’s wife’s lobster rolls, Flagg’s pre-draft interviews reveal a humble, grounded 18-year-old with a killer instinct on the court.This episode captures the raw emotion, humor, and insight that make The Ben and Skin Show a must-listen for Mavs fans and sports lovers alike. Whether you're still mourning Luka or already ordering your Flagg jersey, this episode will make you laugh, reflect, and—most importantly—believe again.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
They're about to have the number one pick in the
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NBA Draft tonight. They're going to select Cooper Flag, the
undisputed number one prospecting.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
This bad boy.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
He's a guy who when he was a sophomore in
high school, they knew one day he would be the
number one pick of the NBA Draft. It's just been
a no brainer, and the MAVs got him somehow. They
lucked into this, and it is an organization that desperately
needed it. We are here at the American Airlines Center
doing our show. We're going to take you till six
o'clock with this Draft Day special, and then we're gonna
simulcast the MAVs TV coverage. It'll happen right here in
(00:32):
ninety seven point one Eagle. Our show is brought to
you by k Post Company. They did the roof at
the AAC Global I Field in at and T Stadium, Roofing,
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our friends at k Post Company for being the sponsor
of this Draft Day extravaganza. This segment here is brought
to you by Andrew's American Pizza Kitchen voted best pizzeria
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a little bit better. He'll be the matter, he'll be
a Maverick. As what time is the pick gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I mean seven, probably seven, ten, seven fifteen, right are
on that because the draft one starts on seven? So uh,
this is the uh, the mystery behind it is not
here like it was the Luca Draft And that was
the last time we were this close so that that
part is a little strange because we're frankly not used
to our teams having the number one pick in the draft.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, I you know, I was thinking about all the
number one picks overall in DFW sports history. I go
back to I think it was nineteen eighty one. The
Mavericks launched in nineteen eighty eighty one. They drafted Mark McGuire,
the number one overall pick. That was my favorite player.
That's when I fell in love with basketball at that time.
I was eleven. And you know, of course Troy aik
(02:13):
Ben Troy what year was that, eight eighty eight, eighty nine,
ninety somewhere in there, and obviously went on to do
great things as the Page Buckets. They just, of course
just just had one. But I can't think of another.
And plus sometimes you get the number one pick and
it doesn't matter. It's just a draft where there's not
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a for sure number one. This is a draft where
Cooper Flag is. People are saying one of the best
two way prospects since Anthony Davis.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
You know, this guy is a can't miss.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Rock star and they got him, and uh, you know
this this organization deeply, deeply needed it if you think
about just how traumatized this team's fan base was from
trading Luca. We were all blindsided by that. And for me,
I still think it's the worst trade in the history
of trading. Like it's a terrible trade. I wouldn't do
that trade in a millionaires for any reason. I would
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never make that trade. You cannot justify that trade. But
if you look at it and you're like, Okay, you
got Anthony Davis back, you got Max Christy, you got
a first round pick, and you get Cooper Flag, now
obviously that's not what the trade was. I don't believe
in conspiracies and I don't believe in all that, but
that's the net net. And so for me, I'm not
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gonna I've been a MAVs fan my whole life since
eighty and so if I'm not gonna leave the Mavericks.
I thought about it, but eventually I would have come
around and been a MAVs fan again. But what I
love most is hope. When you have a young star
with a big, bright future, you have hope. And now
they've got the youngest player in the league, they're about
to have him, and they've got hope, and.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
So I'm back.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I'm I'm able to compartmentalize. Yes, I thought that was
a terrible trade, but I'm not mad at the MAVs.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I'm moving on.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I know there's a certain force to the fan base
that is still clinging to well, it wasn't supposed to happen. Still, though,
that trade is almost like now that you ended up
with a number one pick, it almost rewards the issue
that the trade, like the stupidity of the trade or
whatever you want to call it. And I get that,
but I would also say, like, when something like that
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happens out of nowhere and it's not expected to happen,
there's a lot of things in life that work that way.
If your parents didn't meet and then have relations with
each other, you wouldn't exist. Like, there's so many things
that happen on a day to day basis. If you
didn't jump into traffic, you know, if you jumped into
traffic five minutes earlier, you might have been in that collision.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
So kind of like Butterfly, it's just yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Just the way life goes and it worked out really
well for us. So to me, it feels almost greedy
to still be like up in arms about things, and
you can still have concerns and issues with how the
thing might be ran going forward, But overall, I just
think it's one of those things where you go, Wow,
it's been a crazy sy months and I'm way it's
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unbelievable to feel the way we feel now compared to
how we were feeling in April.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Right, because even if they had the number two pick,
I wouldn't be over the Luca trade and the fact
that it's number one when there's a transcendent number one player,
Christina you talked earlier, I think he made a good
point about you think it's gonna help you heal with
the Luca trade once Cooper Flag is actually in a
jersey and playing for the MAVs.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah, because, like you said, the whole trade was just
such a blind side. I'm still just scared that it
might happen again. I don't think it will, but Ted
earlier got me excited too, because one thing about Luca, like, yes,
he's a great player, but he made basketball so fun
to watch, Like I loved just watching Luca. I still
love watching Luca. Like you can be a mass fan
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and a Luca fan. It's okay anyway, but so Cooper
Flag and I watched a few highlights as well, Like
he has that as well, Like he's really good at.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Basketball, but he's fun to watch.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
He does these really cool things you don't see other
players do, and he makes it look easy and again fun.
So I'm just excited to have them watching this again.
I mean, Kyrie is fun to watch as well, but
he's been hurt whatever.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Anyway, I think it's a big part of this is
like we haven't experienced anything with Cooper Flag yet. Yeah,
very few of us went and watched a ton of
Duke basketball last year, like until you experienced these good
times with him in a MAVs uniform.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
We had questions about Luca. We didn't know when.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
We got looka we we thought it was cool that
it happened, but we still didn't know.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
We were not sure.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
And then it became you know, the stories had come
out like oh yeah, he's taken over practice and before
pre in training camp and things like that, and you know,
Dirk said some good things about him. So like that's
where it's gonna I think bring a lot of people
back in is when just just having good things happen.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Now, I want to play a couple of things. Yesterday,
he had a.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Pre draft press conference, as a lot of players did,
and he can't acknowledge that he is going to be
picked by the Dallas Mavericks, like because it's not official
and he's just not allowed to talk about it. Uh.
Max was telling us a little bit earlier, like Duke
put out a congrats to Dallas MAVs in a video
of Cooper fight, like they can do that, but like
no one in the NBA can do that right now.
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So he's getting asked all these questions and he can't
say anything about the Mavericks. So I just thought you
guys would like some of the things that happened in
this pre draft press conference, Like how about this question
when he was asked, do you like lobster?
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Being from you like lobster?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
You know, lobster isn't my personal.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Favorite, but you know, a good main lobster role. You know,
my trainer's life makes a really nice lobster role. I
think is really good.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Good, thank you very much. My trainer's wife makes a
really good lobster if you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, I'm gonna start using that trainer's wife. That is good.
That is good.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
So basically I don't have a good feel for what
his personality is like. I don't I don't know, like Luca.
We love Luca, but Luca was not a good interview.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
He was on Language seven, you know, right, Yeah, a
lot of it.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, and so I don't know if this could be
the same, and especially the age. So what he's he's eighteen,
So how many eighteen year olds give good interviews?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
You know?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
You know, So I don't know what his personality's like.
And obviously he's not done growing into whatever his personality
is going to be. But I do like listening to
technicals Pain talk about what a killer he is on
the court.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I'm sorry, Yeah, godly technicals Pain.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, that would be crazy, rest of Peace, that would
be crazy if Technicals Pain was here. God, I was
guess I was thinking that he's who taught I haven't everything,
But yeah, Ted Emrick, he was great when he was talking.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
About what a killer he is. And you know some
players have that.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Some players don't, like Kobe had that, Michael Jordan had that.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
You know, not everybody is wired like that.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I didn't know Ted had seen that since iigh school
because his story is crazy. Basically, I'm too good in
this small town in Maine. And I think he had
a quote from his mom was Mama. He said, if
you're the best player in the gym, you need to
go to a bigger gym. Yes, and that's really really great.
So he was asked and he's got to dance around
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these questions. Are you looking forward to being a Maverick?
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:19):
I mean I'm not on social media too much, and
I think, like I said earlier, I'm just trying to
take it one day at a time. So that is
the case tomorrow that ends up happening. I mean, I've
heard it's an incredible fan base with incredible support, so
I'll be excited to learn more about it and get
down there.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Okay, dude, not on social media, thank you. I know
you'd like that. I love that.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Is that?
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Is that true though? Or is he just saying that
because he's eighteen? I mean, how many eighteen year old
or not? Are you act? I mean, you're you're older
and eighteen.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
But I mean I got social media.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I know Cooper Flagg has an Instagram, but I don't
think he's active on Twitter or acts.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Now.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
It's like he's probably got a team of people who
handle this stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, I mean his family's prepped for this for a while.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
You know, the idea of you know, we've talked about
this a lot here in Dallas Fort Worth, where the
idea of Tony Romo going on a vacation where it's like,
why are you doing that? Why aren't you just somewhere,
you know, throwing a football through rubber tire, you know,
throwing it through the hole. And why are you just
looking at game film? What do you mean you live
outside of that, you know, And so you want these
guys to be robots. Sean Lee was like that, an
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absolute robot who's just anytime he's not playing, he's looking
at film or lifting weights. But then you get guys
where they're like they have big personalities and they're on
social media, like Derek Hollin and people like, oh my god,
he's doing Arnold Schwartz and anger impressions get back in
the you know, you know, And so I mean, you
like these guys to have personalities and be great interviews.
(10:46):
But the reality is, I would if I'm drafted a
guy to you know, at number one. I love that
he's not active on social media. Stay away from social media.
There's really not much good that happens on social media.
I mean, there's a bunch of toxicity and poison. Don't
ever let these people some guy just eating a tweaky
on his couch can critique your game. You don't need
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to see everyone's opinion.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
This is the thing i'ld say.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Like the Luca thing, which was devastating for so many people,
it was also devastating for so many people who also
talk trash about Luca actively as a mask. Yes you
loved him, but you got mad at his lack of
effort on defense, or his inability to stay in shape
and all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Yelling at the rest every call.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
You can't act like that's the only thing that was,
because we were all bitching about that too, and like it's.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Just what the world is. Though.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I look around the league and you look at all
these achilles injuries now you know, and they they come
from strained calves. And then if you know, if you
look at what Boston's doing, Okay, our best player tours achilles.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
We have to get rid of the team.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
We have to get rid of everyone, so we're not
you know, in this luxury tax and it's like you,
it can bury your franchise if one of your best
players has to miss an entire year with an achilles issue.
And Luca had three calf injuries in two years, and
so yeah, man, it's just this. You know, it's hard.
It's hard to not tie Cooper flag back to Luca
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because it all happened in such close proximity to itself.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Then, if you had one seat to give to a celebrity,
you're gonna sit court side at a game with someone.
He had one seat to give to a celebrity, who
would it be?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Probably my guy Tom Cruise. We got a lot to
catch up. We've gone through a lot together. Probably want
to hang out with my guy Tom.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Here was Cooper Flagg's answer.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Court sights.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
That's a good question.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
I don't know if you count Larry Bird is a celebrity,
but that would be really cool.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
No, I don't have a favorite rapper. No, I don't
have a favorite rab yo. He doesn't have a favorite rapper,
but Larry Bird, I mean a classic.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
The best thing he could have said is derk And
you know, but he was expecting a question like that, right,
he said, But Larry Birds, imagine.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Larry Bird's always been his favorite player, is what I read.
So he loves Larry Bird, and.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Man, I don't know what you know if Dirk will
be You know, we've heard a lot about this with
the Luca trade and the moves that the MAVs have
made that have gotten away from some of the guys
Dirk loves, and Dirk hasn't really been around that much,
and so I don't know if he'll have a relationship
with Cooper Flagg.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I really hope he will. I hope he does.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Should be in LA a lot doing basketball, Yeah, doing
the Amazon thing too, So.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Hey, how do you want Cooper Flag to score his
first NBA bucket?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
What would you like for that to be?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I would like him to dunk on Lou Dort Lou Dort.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I like the question here because how do you want
to call christ India bucket?
Speaker 5 (13:49):
Maybe duncan on some my I thought that would be
pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Nice And then what position are you Cooper Flag?
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Yeah, I think positionless is a great was a great
way to put it. You know, I'll do whatever you
know coach wants me to do. I'll play any role.
So for me, it's about just doing a ton of
different things with the court. Thing, like I said earlier,
just being an impact player, you know, impacting both sides
of the ball at a high level and impacting winning
at a high level. So where that's you know, getting
it off the you know, off the room in a
rebound and pushing a transition, that's something I feel like
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I can do at a high level. So I would
love to do that. Or if it's playing off ball,
you know, cutting, slashing, spotting up, you know, I'm I'm
ready to do whatever whatever that may be.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I don't think it's the most exciting interview yet, you know,
but maybe you know, in time that'll come. Right now,
he's just going through the process of having everyone watching.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Him, and yeah, he'll get more comfortable and he can
actually talk about being a Dallas maver.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
No.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
God, I love the answer, though, great answer. I love
the answer. It's like he was made at a laboratory.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
This is the thing, like we've Another thing that was
infuriating about the Luca trade was we had spent all
this time and attention to detail and building a team
around him and had done that and gone to the
finals and lost, and then even though he was hurt. Still,
we were kind of dunking on the thunder the two
times we played them, once with him and once without him.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
It is like, this is kind of our year. We
don't have to go shake things up.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
We had built everything around him, but if you could
take yourself away from that, building around Cooper Flag is
so simple. Because of that, they just said, kind of
do everything. You don't have to just go we have
to get shooters around him.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
He can do everything everything.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
So I'm pretty jacked about this, and I think, like again,
because we've known what's gonna happen, He's gonna get picked tonight.
It's that part's been hard for me to kind of
get excited. But the more talking about it, and in
a minute, I'm gonna ask a couple of things. One
is would you buy this item that's surrounding Cooper Flag today?
(15:49):
And two, we think his family was going through because
they thought they were gonna be going to either Washington
or Charlotte. And there's a huge article that was written
about that today and it's all awesome to see how their.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Minds went on Draft day as well.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Okay, tasty, that's coming up next as we continue our
coverage of the NBA Draft. The Mavericks with the number
one pick, Cooper Flag will be selected. Our coverage brought
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Speaker 2 (16:29):
Wow.
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They're about to have the number one pick in the
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NBA Draft tonight. They're going to select Cooper Flag, the
undisputed number one prospecting.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
This bad boy.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
He's a guy who when he was a sophomore in
high school, they knew one day he would be the
number one pick of the NBA Draft. It's just been
a no brainer, and the MAVs got him somehow. They
lucked into this, and it is an organization that desperately
needed it. We are here at the American Airlines Center
doing our show. We're going to take you till six
o'clock with this Draft Day special, and then we're gonna
simulcast the MAVs TV coverage. It'll happen right here in
(00:32):
ninety seven point one Eagle. Our show is brought to
you by k Post Company. They did the roof at
the AAC Global I Field in at and T Stadium, Roofing,
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a little bit better. He'll be the matter, he'll be
a Maverick. As what time is the pick gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I mean seven, probably seven, ten, seven fifteen, right are
on that because the draft one starts on seven? So uh,
this is the uh, the mystery behind it is not
here like it was the Luca Draft And that was
the last time we were this close so that that
part is a little strange because we're frankly not used
to our teams having the number one pick in the draft.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, I you know, I was thinking about all the
number one picks overall in DFW sports history. I go
back to I think it was nineteen eighty one. The
Mavericks launched in nineteen eighty eighty one. They drafted Mark McGuire,
the number one overall pick. That was my favorite player.
That's when I fell in love with basketball at that time.
I was eleven. And you know, of course Troy aik
(02:13):
Ben Troy what year was that, eight eighty eight, eighty nine,
ninety somewhere in there, and obviously went on to do
great things as the Page Buckets. They just, of course
just just had one. But I can't think of another.
And plus sometimes you get the number one pick and
it doesn't matter. It's just a draft where there's not
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a for sure number one. This is a draft where
Cooper Flag is. People are saying one of the best
two way prospects since Anthony Davis.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
You know, this guy is a can't miss.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Rock star and they got him, and uh, you know
this this organization deeply, deeply needed it if you think
about just how traumatized this team's fan base was from
trading Luca. We were all blindsided by that. And for me,
I still think it's the worst trade in the history
of trading. Like it's a terrible trade. I wouldn't do
that trade in a millionaires for any reason. I would
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never make that trade. You cannot justify that trade. But
if you look at it and you're like, Okay, you
got Anthony Davis back, you got Max Christy, you got
a first round pick, and you get Cooper Flag, now
obviously that's not what the trade was. I don't believe
in conspiracies and I don't believe in all that, but
that's the net net. And so for me, I'm not
(03:29):
gonna I've been a MAVs fan my whole life since
eighty and so if I'm not gonna leave the Mavericks.
I thought about it, but eventually I would have come
around and been a MAVs fan again. But what I
love most is hope. When you have a young star
with a big, bright future, you have hope. And now
they've got the youngest player in the league, they're about
to have him, and they've got hope, and.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
So I'm back.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I'm I'm able to compartmentalize. Yes, I thought that was
a terrible trade, but I'm not mad at the MAVs.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I'm moving on.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I know there's a certain force to the fan base
that is still clinging to well, it wasn't supposed to happen. Still, though,
that trade is almost like now that you ended up
with a number one pick, it almost rewards the issue
that the trade, like the stupidity of the trade or
whatever you want to call it. And I get that,
but I would also say, like, when something like that
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happens out of nowhere and it's not expected to happen,
there's a lot of things in life that work that way.
If your parents didn't meet and then have relations with
each other, you wouldn't exist. Like, there's so many things
that happen on a day to day basis. If you
didn't jump into traffic, you know, if you jumped into
traffic five minutes earlier, you might have been in that collision.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
So kind of like Butterfly, it's just yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Just the way life goes and it worked out really
well for us. So to me, it feels almost greedy
to still be like up in arms about things, and
you can still have concerns and issues with how the
thing might be ran going forward, But overall, I just
think it's one of those things where you go, Wow,
it's been a crazy sy months and I'm way it's
(05:03):
unbelievable to feel the way we feel now compared to
how we were feeling in April.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Right, because even if they had the number two pick,
I wouldn't be over the Luca trade and the fact
that it's number one when there's a transcendent number one player,
Christina you talked earlier, I think he made a good
point about you think it's gonna help you heal with
the Luca trade once Cooper Flag is actually in a
jersey and playing for the MAVs.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah, because, like you said, the whole trade was just
such a blind side. I'm still just scared that it
might happen again. I don't think it will, but Ted
earlier got me excited too, because one thing about Luca, like, yes,
he's a great player, but he made basketball so fun
to watch, Like I loved just watching Luca. I still
love watching Luca. Like you can be a mass fan
(05:46):
and a Luca fan. It's okay anyway, but so Cooper
Flag and I watched a few highlights as well, Like
he has that as well, Like he's really good at.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Basketball, but he's fun to watch.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
He does these really cool things you don't see other
players do, and he makes it look easy and again fun.
So I'm just excited to have them watching this again.
I mean, Kyrie is fun to watch as well, but
he's been hurt whatever.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Anyway, I think it's a big part of this is
like we haven't experienced anything with Cooper Flag yet. Yeah,
very few of us went and watched a ton of
Duke basketball last year, like until you experienced these good
times with him in a MAVs uniform.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
We had questions about Luca. We didn't know when.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
We got looka we we thought it was cool that
it happened, but we still didn't know.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
We were not sure.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
And then it became you know, the stories had come
out like oh yeah, he's taken over practice and before
pre in training camp and things like that, and you know,
Dirk said some good things about him. So like that's
where it's gonna I think bring a lot of people
back in is when just just having good things happen.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Now, I want to play a couple of things. Yesterday,
he had a.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Pre draft press conference, as a lot of players did,
and he can't acknowledge that he is going to be
picked by the Dallas Mavericks, like because it's not official
and he's just not allowed to talk about it. Uh.
Max was telling us a little bit earlier, like Duke
put out a congrats to Dallas MAVs in a video
of Cooper fight, like they can do that, but like
no one in the NBA can do that right now.
(07:14):
So he's getting asked all these questions and he can't
say anything about the Mavericks. So I just thought you
guys would like some of the things that happened in
this pre draft press conference, Like how about this question
when he was asked, do you like lobster?
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Being from you like lobster?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
You know, lobster isn't my personal.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Favorite, but you know, a good main lobster role. You know,
my trainer's life makes a really nice lobster role. I
think is really good.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Good, thank you very much. My trainer's wife makes a
really good lobster if you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, I'm gonna start using that trainer's wife. That is good.
That is good.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
So basically I don't have a good feel for what
his personality is like. I don't I don't know, like Luca.
We love Luca, but Luca was not a good interview.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
He was on Language seven, you know, right, Yeah, a
lot of it.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, and so I don't know if this could be
the same, and especially the age. So what he's he's eighteen,
So how many eighteen year olds give good interviews?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
You know?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
You know, So I don't know what his personality's like.
And obviously he's not done growing into whatever his personality
is going to be. But I do like listening to
technicals Pain talk about what a killer he is on
the court.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I'm sorry, Yeah, godly technicals Pain.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, that would be crazy, rest of Peace, that would
be crazy if Technicals Pain was here. God, I was
guess I was thinking that he's who taught I haven't everything,
But yeah, Ted Emrick, he was great when he was talking.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
About what a killer he is. And you know some
players have that.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Some players don't, like Kobe had that, Michael Jordan had that.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
You know, not everybody is wired like that.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I didn't know Ted had seen that since iigh school
because his story is crazy. Basically, I'm too good in
this small town in Maine. And I think he had
a quote from his mom was Mama. He said, if
you're the best player in the gym, you need to
go to a bigger gym. Yes, and that's really really great.
So he was asked and he's got to dance around
(09:15):
these questions. Are you looking forward to being a Maverick?
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:19):
I mean I'm not on social media too much, and
I think, like I said earlier, I'm just trying to
take it one day at a time. So that is
the case tomorrow that ends up happening. I mean, I've
heard it's an incredible fan base with incredible support, so
I'll be excited to learn more about it and get
down there.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Okay, dude, not on social media, thank you. I know
you'd like that. I love that.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Is that?
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Is that true though? Or is he just saying that
because he's eighteen? I mean, how many eighteen year old
or not? Are you act? I mean, you're you're older
and eighteen.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
But I mean I got social media.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I know Cooper Flagg has an Instagram, but I don't
think he's active on Twitter or acts.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Now.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
It's like he's probably got a team of people who
handle this stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, I mean his family's prepped for this for a while.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
You know, the idea of you know, we've talked about
this a lot here in Dallas Fort Worth, where the
idea of Tony Romo going on a vacation where it's like,
why are you doing that? Why aren't you just somewhere,
you know, throwing a football through rubber tire, you know,
throwing it through the hole. And why are you just
looking at game film? What do you mean you live
outside of that, you know, And so you want these
guys to be robots. Sean Lee was like that, an
(10:26):
absolute robot who's just anytime he's not playing, he's looking
at film or lifting weights. But then you get guys
where they're like they have big personalities and they're on
social media, like Derek Hollin and people like, oh my god,
he's doing Arnold Schwartz and anger impressions get back in
the you know, you know, And so I mean, you
like these guys to have personalities and be great interviews.
(10:46):
But the reality is, I would if I'm drafted a
guy to you know, at number one. I love that
he's not active on social media. Stay away from social media.
There's really not much good that happens on social media.
I mean, there's a bunch of toxicity and poison. Don't
ever let these people some guy just eating a tweaky
on his couch can critique your game. You don't need
(11:06):
to see everyone's opinion.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
This is the thing i'ld say.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Like the Luca thing, which was devastating for so many people,
it was also devastating for so many people who also
talk trash about Luca actively as a mask. Yes you
loved him, but you got mad at his lack of
effort on defense, or his inability to stay in shape
and all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Yelling at the rest every call.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
You can't act like that's the only thing that was,
because we were all bitching about that too, and like it's.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Just what the world is. Though.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I look around the league and you look at all
these achilles injuries now you know, and they they come
from strained calves. And then if you know, if you
look at what Boston's doing, Okay, our best player tours achilles.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
We have to get rid of the team.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
We have to get rid of everyone, so we're not
you know, in this luxury tax and it's like you,
it can bury your franchise if one of your best
players has to miss an entire year with an achilles issue.
And Luca had three calf injuries in two years, and
so yeah, man, it's just this. You know, it's hard.
It's hard to not tie Cooper flag back to Luca
(12:11):
because it all happened in such close proximity to itself.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Then, if you had one seat to give to a celebrity,
you're gonna sit court side at a game with someone.
He had one seat to give to a celebrity, who
would it be?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Probably my guy Tom Cruise. We got a lot to
catch up. We've gone through a lot together. Probably want
to hang out with my guy Tom.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Here was Cooper Flagg's answer.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Court sights.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
That's a good question.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
I don't know if you count Larry Bird is a celebrity,
but that would be really cool.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
No, I don't have a favorite rapper. No, I don't
have a favorite rab yo. He doesn't have a favorite rapper,
but Larry Bird, I mean a classic.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
The best thing he could have said is derk And
you know, but he was expecting a question like that, right,
he said, But Larry Birds, imagine.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Larry Bird's always been his favorite player, is what I read.
So he loves Larry Bird, and.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Man, I don't know what you know if Dirk will
be You know, we've heard a lot about this with
the Luca trade and the moves that the MAVs have
made that have gotten away from some of the guys
Dirk loves, and Dirk hasn't really been around that much,
and so I don't know if he'll have a relationship
with Cooper Flagg.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I really hope he will. I hope he does.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Should be in LA a lot doing basketball, Yeah, doing
the Amazon thing too, So.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Hey, how do you want Cooper Flag to score his
first NBA bucket?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
What would you like for that to be?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I would like him to dunk on Lou Dort Lou Dort.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I like the question here because how do you want
to call christ India bucket?
Speaker 5 (13:49):
Maybe duncan on some my I thought that would be
pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Nice And then what position are you Cooper Flag?
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Yeah, I think positionless is a great was a great
way to put it. You know, I'll do whatever you
know coach wants me to do. I'll play any role.
So for me, it's about just doing a ton of
different things with the court. Thing, like I said earlier,
just being an impact player, you know, impacting both sides
of the ball at a high level and impacting winning
at a high level. So where that's you know, getting
it off the you know, off the room in a
rebound and pushing a transition, that's something I feel like
(14:19):
I can do at a high level. So I would
love to do that. Or if it's playing off ball,
you know, cutting, slashing, spotting up, you know, I'm I'm
ready to do whatever whatever that may be.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I don't think it's the most exciting interview yet, you know,
but maybe you know, in time that'll come. Right now,
he's just going through the process of having everyone watching.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Him, and yeah, he'll get more comfortable and he can
actually talk about being a Dallas maver.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
No.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
God, I love the answer, though, great answer. I love
the answer. It's like he was made at a laboratory.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
This is the thing, like we've Another thing that was
infuriating about the Luca trade was we had spent all
this time and attention to detail and building a team
around him and had done that and gone to the
finals and lost, and then even though he was hurt. Still,
we were kind of dunking on the thunder the two
times we played them, once with him and once without him.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
It is like, this is kind of our year. We
don't have to go shake things up.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
We had built everything around him, but if you could
take yourself away from that, building around Cooper Flag is
so simple. Because of that, they just said, kind of
do everything. You don't have to just go we have
to get shooters around him.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
He can do everything everything.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
So I'm pretty jacked about this, and I think, like again,
because we've known what's gonna happen, He's gonna get picked tonight.
It's that part's been hard for me to kind of
get excited. But the more talking about it, and in
a minute, I'm gonna ask a couple of things. One
is would you buy this item that's surrounding Cooper Flag today?
(15:49):
And two, we think his family was going through because
they thought they were gonna be going to either Washington
or Charlotte. And there's a huge article that was written
about that today and it's all awesome to see how their.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Minds went on Draft day as well.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Okay, tasty, that's coming up next as we continue our
coverage of the NBA Draft. The Mavericks with the number
one pick, Cooper Flag will be selected. Our coverage brought
to you by k Post Company. We're gonna go till
six o'clock and then we're gonna hand it off to
the TV broadcast. We'll look at We're at the AEC
right now, and you can look down at center court
and you see Jeff skin Wade, Ted Emrick and Mark
(16:24):
Folowell down there at center stage. They're gonna be holding
down the coverage not on TV and on the radio.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
And again, our coverage brought to you by k Post Company.
They did the roofs at the AAC Globeli Field in
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