July 16, 2025 • 5 mins
In this electric episode of The Ben and Skin Show, hosts Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray dive headfirst into the surprising ESPN rankings that place Demarvion Overshown as the 8th-best linebacker in football—despite a career riddled with injuries. Is it a testament to his raw talent, or a sign of a league-wide linebacker drought?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
But right now it's time for this.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Now around the sports k T queens as all the sports.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Yes yesterday we told you we had good and bad
Cowboys news, and we spent all the time on the bad,
and we're like, okay, we'll push the good to tomorrow.
So the good news is what we're discussing is this
whole ESPN thing where they talk to executive scouts, coaches, players,
They fill out ten people at each position. You know,
who are the best ten players each position? And I
now move you to linebacker because this is the good news.
(00:35):
Coming in at number eight of all the linebackers in football,
de Marveon overshown really in fact highest ranked four. Someone
gave him a four spot, so as a rookie he
can't now eighth. Is this because technically towards ACL as
a rookie so year two because he because he had
(00:56):
another big injury?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Ye oh yeah, he's a lot of the season this year.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Is this a byproduct of all the good linebackers are gone.
It's just like a position that's being neglected in the
defensive world.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I think he's really good. I think it's that more
than anything. I think people saw that.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, his burst like he's so quick, so fast, definitely
a dynamic playmaker, like I just my only question about
him is, sadly, can he stay healthy?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Has he played more than eight games in two years?
He played more than eight games last year. He played
twelve games last year.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Okay, so he's played twelve games in two years.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
And keep in mind the first four or five games,
Mike Zimmer didn't like having him on the field, right,
so they had to like, hey, man, he's around the
ball every time.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
So he's had eight effective games in two years. And
he's the eighth best linebacker in football.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah wow, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Now the other thing I think to get out here,
here's what one NFC coach said, He's the second guy
you worry about in Dallas after Michael Parsons.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
That's fair.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Is Zimmer retired?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Full of you now?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Is he? Yeah? He might be riding a horse or something.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I spoke to somebody recently who was in that locker
room a lot, it's all I'll say, And they said
he was not liked, like that was not a good year,
Like like I think there was a lot of beef
oh with him and in that locker room. I don't
I just don't think like with other coaches or players
or no. I think players hated playing for him. Wow,
(02:29):
And I can't obviously we say something like that, oh
so every single player. No, but I do know quite
a few players did not enjoy playing for him.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Interesting, Well, I think, uh, the guy, you're gonna see
a lot this year because I mean, I don't know
when Overson's going to be back. They actually they don't
know either. They're hoping that he will return mid to
late season because he had a c l M c
l P c L I mean he tore he shreded
his knee again.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
He has two new legs.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
But the guy, he was drafted a few years ago,
and everyone kinds like, okay, kind of annoying, but marist
leu fou say him. He is gonna get all the
playing time. And you know what, he's kind of good?
Is he noted?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Where's he from? O?
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Man?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
He's from some great linebackers color association so much with
my teams when it comes to this, I'm struggling, sorry
to put on the spot.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
You know, it's Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah, but it's like one of those Notre Dame colored schools.
Yeah yeah, yeah, But he's gonna play one and they
actually think like big breakout year and Eberfluss linebacker guys.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
So I think it's all. I think it's all good.
Defense is gonna be okay. I worry about who they're
going to cover. They need cornerbacks right now, right corners.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I also, I don't think they have that big giant
defensive tackle. I they don't have that person to stuff
the run and help the linebackers in that reguard. I
think people are still going to be able to run
all over I think Mazie's a bust. I think there'll
be a people will be able to run all over him.
Although unless unless this is his coach, this is all
he needed was a coaching change.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Who is who were you touting a couple of months ago?
That's something weird, good things, That's what I'm saying. I
hear good things, but I'm like, dude, come on, it's
he's too small. I love our success with Michigan defensive players.
Right man, Jordan Lewis is few and far between, and
we had to let him go, which is good because
George he and him and George.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Pickens would not have co existed. Could all have he
what did what did he say?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
He posted, I think God wanted me out of there.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah, God wanted me out of Oallas now already proved it.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
But don't you guys feel good about the offense and
wouldn't you rather outscore it, try to outscore everybody than
try to get stops late in the game when every
defense is I mean, if you look at the end
of every game, every defense is tired, and a good
offense marches on him at the time.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
It's more fun to watch. But I don't I don't
think the Cowboys are gonna be able to stop the
run or pass. But but but I like our specialty
or run the ball. But I do think they'll be
able to throw the ball. They're gonna be able to
rush the passer. They're gonna be able to rush the
passer and throw the football. And I'm not ready to
give up on our run game. Yeah, I mean, I'm
I'm I think we fumble farted Rico that to me,
(05:00):
he was like nothing.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
But I'm excited about the ut kit.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Maybe he can do a little sometimes and maybe our
offensive line comes together. Maybe it was the injuries last
year that held us back. We don't have time for
the good MAVs news. Yeah, it's fine, we'll talk about
it some other time. Dude, I'm unconcerned. It's the Beinin'
Skin Show, ninety seven point one, The Eagle. We got
lots of good stuff coming up. Don't forget Pantera tickets
at any moment, but coming up next and the Hollywood Shuffle.
(05:24):
One of our favorites, Fred Armison, makes us laugh
But right now it's time for this.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Now around the sports k T queens as all the sports.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Yes yesterday we told you we had good and bad
Cowboys news, and we spent all the time on the bad,
and we're like, okay, we'll push the good to tomorrow.
So the good news is what we're discussing is this
whole ESPN thing where they talk to executive scouts, coaches, players,
They fill out ten people at each position. You know,
who are the best ten players each position? And I
now move you to linebacker because this is the good news.
(00:35):
Coming in at number eight of all the linebackers in football,
de Marveon overshown really in fact highest ranked four. Someone
gave him a four spot, so as a rookie he
can't now eighth. Is this because technically towards ACL as
a rookie so year two because he because he had
(00:56):
another big injury?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Ye oh yeah, he's a lot of the season this year.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Is this a byproduct of all the good linebackers are gone.
It's just like a position that's being neglected in the
defensive world.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I think he's really good. I think it's that more
than anything. I think people saw that.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, his burst like he's so quick, so fast, definitely
a dynamic playmaker, like I just my only question about
him is, sadly, can he stay healthy?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Has he played more than eight games in two years?
He played more than eight games last year. He played
twelve games last year.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Okay, so he's played twelve games in two years.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
And keep in mind the first four or five games,
Mike Zimmer didn't like having him on the field, right,
so they had to like, hey, man, he's around the
ball every time.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
So he's had eight effective games in two years. And
he's the eighth best linebacker in football.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah wow, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Now the other thing I think to get out here,
here's what one NFC coach said, He's the second guy
you worry about in Dallas after Michael Parsons.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
That's fair.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Is Zimmer retired?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Full of you now?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Is he? Yeah? He might be riding a horse or something.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I spoke to somebody recently who was in that locker
room a lot, it's all I'll say, And they said
he was not liked, like that was not a good year,
Like like I think there was a lot of beef
oh with him and in that locker room. I don't
I just don't think like with other coaches or players
or no. I think players hated playing for him. Wow,
(02:29):
And I can't obviously we say something like that, oh
so every single player. No, but I do know quite
a few players did not enjoy playing for him.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Interesting, Well, I think, uh, the guy, you're gonna see
a lot this year because I mean, I don't know
when Overson's going to be back. They actually they don't
know either. They're hoping that he will return mid to
late season because he had a c l M c
l P c L I mean he tore he shreded
his knee again.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
He has two new legs.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
But the guy, he was drafted a few years ago,
and everyone kinds like, okay, kind of annoying, but marist
leu fou say him. He is gonna get all the
playing time. And you know what, he's kind of good?
Is he noted?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Where's he from? O?
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Man?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
He's from some great linebackers color association so much with
my teams when it comes to this, I'm struggling, sorry
to put on the spot.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
You know, it's Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah, but it's like one of those Notre Dame colored schools.
Yeah yeah, yeah, But he's gonna play one and they
actually think like big breakout year and Eberfluss linebacker guys.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
So I think it's all. I think it's all good.
Defense is gonna be okay. I worry about who they're
going to cover. They need cornerbacks right now, right corners.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I also, I don't think they have that big giant
defensive tackle. I they don't have that person to stuff
the run and help the linebackers in that reguard. I
think people are still going to be able to run
all over I think Mazie's a bust. I think there'll
be a people will be able to run all over him.
Although unless unless this is his coach, this is all
he needed was a coaching change.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Who is who were you touting a couple of months ago?
That's something weird, good things, That's what I'm saying. I
hear good things, but I'm like, dude, come on, it's
he's too small. I love our success with Michigan defensive players.
Right man, Jordan Lewis is few and far between, and
we had to let him go, which is good because
George he and him and George.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Pickens would not have co existed. Could all have he
what did what did he say?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
He posted, I think God wanted me out of there.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah, God wanted me out of Oallas now already proved it.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
But don't you guys feel good about the offense and
wouldn't you rather outscore it, try to outscore everybody than
try to get stops late in the game when every
defense is I mean, if you look at the end
of every game, every defense is tired, and a good
offense marches on him at the time.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
It's more fun to watch. But I don't I don't
think the Cowboys are gonna be able to stop the
run or pass. But but but I like our specialty
or run the ball. But I do think they'll be
able to throw the ball. They're gonna be able to
rush the passer. They're gonna be able to rush the
passer and throw the football. And I'm not ready to
give up on our run game. Yeah, I mean, I'm
I'm I think we fumble farted Rico that to me,
(05:00):
he was like nothing.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
But I'm excited about the ut kit.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Maybe he can do a little sometimes and maybe our
offensive line comes together. Maybe it was the injuries last
year that held us back. We don't have time for
the good MAVs news. Yeah, it's fine, we'll talk about
it some other time. Dude, I'm unconcerned. It's the Beinin'
Skin Show, ninety seven point one, The Eagle. We got
lots of good stuff coming up. Don't forget Pantera tickets
at any moment, but coming up next and the Hollywood Shuffle.
(05:24):
One of our favorites, Fred Armison, makes us laugh
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