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July 14, 2025 5 mins
“What happens when a beloved Texas beaver tries to invade a quiet Colorado town?”In this wild and wonderfully unhinged episode of The Ben and Skin Show, Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray dive into the story of Buc-ee’s vs. Palmer Lake, Colorado.A full-blown exposé on small-town resistance, billionaire land wars, and the unexpected chaos that follows a beaver mascot across state lines. From chants of “Heave the Beave!” to accusations of tire slashing and stalking by a mysterious yellow Mercedes, this episode has everything: drama, comedy, and a whole lot of beef.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Irish beef stew. Are you kidding?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Meskine freaking million? I might ask you a ton of
doun for a second, because I said I was getting angry.
But now you're getting a little.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Peated beef brisk Get off a roast beef. Now I
go home and still watch more. You know after three hours?

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yes, I do.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
No, you don't tell me what I do and what
I don't. Oh, don't tell me. I watch the damn
game pong beef. Why are you arguing with me all
about this? God? You make a freaking on the parable
pop up the stuff. Do you see where I'm going
with this beef? It's the beef. What's yeah?

Speaker 3 (00:32):
And today's beef is BUCkies versus Colorado. The town is
palmer Lake, Colorado, population twenty five hundred. They're off A
I twenty five as a big highway. I would imagine
it's a very small town, a lot of open land
and BUCkies sauce of that undeveloped open land. And said,

(00:53):
you know what, that would be pretty nice to put
one of our wonderful gas stations here. And the people
in Palmer Lake, Colorada do not bucky my Colorado.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
In fact, some residents have displayed signs in their front
yards that say heave the beef, which that sounds offensive.
You don't know what BUCkies is, You're probably going away.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
They're throwing the beaver, They're throwing up on it.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Shocking.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
There's also a fellow by the name of John Malone.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
John Malone is America's second largest private landowner. He's eighty
four years old and he is a billionaire. He is
good friends with Ted Turner. Was I guess Ted Turner
by the way.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
And looking at the map, it looks like Palmer Lake
is between Denver and Colorado Springs, closer to Colorado Springs.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
You're correct, sir, right.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
I don't see Emerson on the map, but I don't
doubt it. But I can see why that'd be a
good place for a BUCkies because there's a lot of
driving between Denver and Colorado.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
I mean, nothing there.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Yeah, okay, So so is are they saying, Look, we
don't want the super mega convenience story with the eighty
seven thousand gas pumps exactly.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
They're saying we don't want the lights. They feared it's
gonna turn into an alien city. They don't want they
but the water supply. They're worried about that, the pollution,
like all this stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
They're like, no, Colorado does have water supply issues, dude,
that's real.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
So since two thousand, Denver has added nearly a million residents.
Colorado Springs has added more than seven hundred thousand people
since two thousand. So, like the growth in those metro
areas is already freaking them out a little bit. And
I know small town people think I'm from there, Like
Palmer Lake, Colorado is about the size of on me
where I'm from, So I kind of could like see

(02:38):
where there's a freak people out. The other thing is
they the Buckies' reps came in and tried to outline
a plan and they have the all these people and
they're meeting the school cafeteria because that's usually the biggest
meeting room in small towns, is the school cafeteria.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
High school, and they have everyone there.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
And the BUCkies people representatives of there like, hey man,
we're gonna bring it. We're gonna increase this much in
tax revenue and all this stuff and it's gonna be
good for your town, blah blah blah, and they start
that we don't want your BUCkies, chance and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
We don't want your beaver nuggets. They start chanting the beef,
be the beef. It's so good.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
So this guy John Malone, who's got all the money
and he's eighty four, he's offered to buy the land
rather than have BUCkies develop it. And he called the
BUCkies beaver mascot, an invasive species from Texas. Oh dude,
Colorado people do hate Texans. This is uh, this is
this has costner vibes. This says Yellowstone vibes a little bit.

(03:39):
Don't move in here and bring your BUCkies and put
in a big airport. We want to keep this scenic
and beautiful. This land is your land. This land is miling. Yeah, okay.
And what's happened here is the mayor is on board
with BUCkies. He's like, this makes sense.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
And then.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
If you are from that town and you dare before
the BUCkies thing to happen, then you are definitely not
looked upon fondly amongst your neighbors. In fact, there's a
text message scandal that had broken out. There's also been
some slashing of tires.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Oh man.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
There was a written request to Colorado's Attorney General to
investigate dozens of cases of harassment on anti Buckies' activists,
including stalking of two plaintiffs homes by a yellow Mercedes
caught slowly driving by to their homes and taking photos.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
That's not exactly in conspicuous vehicle, a giant banana was
driving down the street.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah, especially there in the middle of nowhere too.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
But the Mercedes possibly funded by millionaire John Malone.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Possibly.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
Oh wait, aren't they They were harassing the people that
didn't want Bucky.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
Yes, he's the one going to buy the land to
protect it from BUCkies, so this would have they're accusing
BUCkies of trying to muscle the community with a banana car.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Yeah. The mayor who supports it, he said that the
bucket supporters.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
The mayor starts a woman.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
The mayor said that the Buckey supporters can including herself,
has had their tire slash and have been threatened online.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Oh so it's the locals, Well, it's it's both. They're
all so they're all mad and it's getting violent and
they're slashing each other's tires. Dude, Most fights and feuds
go back to the beaver. If you just look over time,
most fights have been over a beaver, ask Adam.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
So we'll keep tracking this because I think it's going
to develop. It doesn't look like right now they're going
to get that BUCkies because that John Malone guy is
going to buy up all that land because he's eighty forty.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
He's about to die anyway, So whatever, who's he buying
it from? It's I don't know, that's a good question.
A land.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
He's got to buy it from Costner. All right, There
you have it. There is the around the beef segment
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