July 31, 2025 • 7 mins
“Can you tell when something is written by a human—or are we all just reading AI now?”That’s the question that kicks off a wildly entertaining and thought-provoking segment of The Ben and Skin Show. In this episode, the gang dives headfirst into the blurred lines between human creativity and artificial intelligence. Skin shares his admiration for Dallas writer Sarah Hepola and her deeply human profile of Dude Perfect, contrasting it with the uncanny weirdness of AI-generated content—like the now-infamous Men’s Health article that may have confused Luka Dončić with Donte DiVincenzo. Ben recounts a surreal moment at Dude Perfect’s new mega-office, where a family recognized him as the guy who wrote their daughter’s favorite song. “Is that my most listened-to song ever?” he wonders. Meanwhile, Skin’s latest obsession—matcha—sparks a hilarious debate about taste, caffeine crashes, and whether drinking green powder makes you a “performative male.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Barreling towards the weekend. Tomorrow, we're going to be at
the Chalk Talk Casino and Resort in Durant, Oklahoma from
three to six. Come by and join us, and then
later in the show you'll use your iHeart app and
the talkback feature to have a chance to win. Eisneine
Kills Tickets August twenty fourth, Toyota Music Factory. It's a
four pack for you and the homies, so stick around
for that. But right now it's time for this Skin
(00:24):
Is Track, another edition of things, Skin Is Traffic. All right,
this is a grab bag of things. I got a
lot of them, and I just remembered something I wanted
to talk about when Ben was saying he can identify AI. Conversely,
when I'm reading something, I can definitely identify when it's
a human And the one I wanted to bring to
(00:46):
Yell's attention. If you haven't read it yet, it's really good.
We talk about her on the show frequently, but Sarah Heppela,
I love what she's doing for the Dallas Morning News.
She does these North Texas centric profiles and they're always
really interesting and I love her inside. I mean, I
used to read her all the time when she was
the Dallas Observer music critic, like twenty years ago. I
(01:07):
think she preceded our buddy Zach Crane over there. But
she's a great writer and she the other day they
dropped a great piece about our friend's Dude Perfect. You know,
we've talked about them on the show. They're taking over
Frisco Ben's music Forum and they have a really interesting,
cool story, and she did an amazing profile. And as
(01:28):
I was reading it it and reading it in her voice,
like she has a distinctive style of writing, I was
sitting there and I realized mid paragraph, this is a
great example of this is clearly not AI, and this
is something AI can't give you.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Now I am incredibly impressed with AI.
Over the last probably three weeks, I've used it more
than I ever have, and I'm blown away by it.
And sometimes I'll have it rewrite a paragraph for me
or something. But if you just leave it exactly how
it sends you, it's clearly AI. Yeah, right, it's not yourself.
By the way, So I was at Dude Perfect office yesterday.
(02:06):
They're new offices. It's unbelievable. Yeah, Like they're about to
have sixty full time employees, like, it's massive. I think
they have fifty sixty million YouTube subscribers, which is nuts.
And while I was leaving, like the new Marvel it's nuts.
So while I was leaving, they give tours. They were
giving someone a tour and they go, hey, this is
the guy who wrote the song for overtimeh cool their
(02:29):
intro and this family started freaking out. They're like, oh
my god, this is our daughter's favorite song.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Felt good?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
How many times has that? I was like, is it
my most listened to song? Dude?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
For now?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Question?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Nah, I think the fart in a Santa suit.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Well, I mean if they're sixty fifties sixty million subscribers
whatever it is, oh my god, yeah, then the more
more reach and that shows but on for a decade.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
You need to read the article because you know the
answer to your question is yes, right far and away. Yeah,
but it will like give you even the fervor of
the worship by their And I shouldn't use the word
worship because they're faith based a lot of what they do,
and they incorporate it into what they do, so I
(03:13):
probably shouldn't have used that word in that context. But
the devotion of those kids that are into their stuff,
and it's pretty evident in the article because she goes
to you know, they go on tour and they do
these shows, and so she went to their show out
there at out at Dicky's and it's talking about that
experience and seeing what the crowd does and how they
(03:35):
react to different things, and so yes, it's very much
what you're talking about. Some little girl that's her favorite
song because she watches overtime or whatever. But anyways, that's
the the you know, one thing that really struck me
is I'm reading something going this. This is because you
guys we talked about this. There was a lot of
people that thought the Luka Doncicic men's health article was AI.
(03:59):
Really yeah huh, because not only did Luka doncic not
go to the combine, he does not have a forty
two inch vers right, So what it did was even
our buddy Nick Engstad said, I think the AI search
out and inadvertently posted Dante Divincenzo's information. Yeah, okay, So
what's interesting about that is I didn't even read that article.
I just saw the picture and that's all I needed, right,
(04:21):
you know what I mean, yeah, that's interesting and so
so anyways, that's kind of what like had put that
on my radar. Okay, another quick thing I'm going to
get to here. Macha has taken over my life.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
You're gonna need to tell.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
People what that is.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Okay, did did?
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Do you know what machi is? Christina explain it to Kevin. No, no,
you don't explaining it. But I know it's just like
a green powder. I know Starbucks has loved it for
a year now, and well white white.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Girls everywhere love it. Yes, but it's.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Uh, the taste. I'm not a fan of the taste
because it tastes green. Not either, it does taste green,
but yeah, it's supposed to be super for you.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
It comes from the same leaf that green tea comes from.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I love it because simultaneously, as you're exploring this in
Japanese interval speed walking, the lady who was like, y'all
want to know who I date and who I go with?
You know, that went viral. I don't know if y'all
know that. And then this car sales guy goes, no,
but I think you think you're black, and that thing went,
oh you told me about that. Yeah, but she's really
into Macha right now. So she's like always talking about
(05:28):
Macha and so this is great. You guys have so
much in common. My son is calling me a performative male. Okay, okay,
He's like, he goes, are you going to start wearing
loafers perform female?
Speaker 1 (05:39):
No? No, no, He's like, there's a certain type of
male that is willing to talk about Macha. He wears
loafers and he's performing his idea. That's pretty good. So
here's just so you know. Now we've talked about how
much coffee that Ben and I drink, and I'll wrap
this up, but your average eight ounce cup of has
(06:00):
about two hundred milligrams of caffeine, whereas your average eight
ounce cup of Macha will definitely have less than one
hundred and thirty. And when they describe the caffeine, caffeine
and coffee is rapidly absorbed, leading to a quick burst
of energy followed by a crash. The l Theian nine
in Machia slows down caffeine absorption, resulting in a more sustained,
(06:25):
gradual release of energy and potentially preventing jitters or crash.
In the last two days since I've been on my
macha kick, I've had less than three cups of coffee combined.
Let's go comparatively. Cannadyc coke is forty five, Is that right?
How many die Cokes you drink in a day a half?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Or none?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Or one that's pretty good? Yeah, never more than one.
You need to get machya with a little bit of
oat milk and some vanilla strawberry, and you guys will
like to taste.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
That sounds good, having all right? Coming up next in
the Hollywood Shuffle or any of us smarter than Matt Damon,
we'll find out
Barreling towards the weekend. Tomorrow, we're going to be at
the Chalk Talk Casino and Resort in Durant, Oklahoma from
three to six. Come by and join us, and then
later in the show you'll use your iHeart app and
the talkback feature to have a chance to win. Eisneine
Kills Tickets August twenty fourth, Toyota Music Factory. It's a
four pack for you and the homies, so stick around
for that. But right now it's time for this Skin
(00:24):
Is Track, another edition of things, Skin Is Traffic. All right,
this is a grab bag of things. I got a
lot of them, and I just remembered something I wanted
to talk about when Ben was saying he can identify AI. Conversely,
when I'm reading something, I can definitely identify when it's
a human And the one I wanted to bring to
(00:46):
Yell's attention. If you haven't read it yet, it's really good.
We talk about her on the show frequently, but Sarah Heppela,
I love what she's doing for the Dallas Morning News.
She does these North Texas centric profiles and they're always
really interesting and I love her inside. I mean, I
used to read her all the time when she was
the Dallas Observer music critic, like twenty years ago. I
(01:07):
think she preceded our buddy Zach Crane over there. But
she's a great writer and she the other day they
dropped a great piece about our friend's Dude Perfect. You know,
we've talked about them on the show. They're taking over
Frisco Ben's music Forum and they have a really interesting,
cool story, and she did an amazing profile. And as
(01:28):
I was reading it it and reading it in her voice,
like she has a distinctive style of writing, I was
sitting there and I realized mid paragraph, this is a
great example of this is clearly not AI, and this
is something AI can't give you.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Now I am incredibly impressed with AI.
Over the last probably three weeks, I've used it more
than I ever have, and I'm blown away by it.
And sometimes I'll have it rewrite a paragraph for me
or something. But if you just leave it exactly how
it sends you, it's clearly AI. Yeah, right, it's not yourself.
By the way, So I was at Dude Perfect office yesterday.
(02:06):
They're new offices. It's unbelievable. Yeah, Like they're about to
have sixty full time employees, like, it's massive. I think
they have fifty sixty million YouTube subscribers, which is nuts.
And while I was leaving, like the new Marvel it's nuts.
So while I was leaving, they give tours. They were
giving someone a tour and they go, hey, this is
the guy who wrote the song for overtimeh cool their
(02:29):
intro and this family started freaking out. They're like, oh
my god, this is our daughter's favorite song.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Felt good?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
How many times has that? I was like, is it
my most listened to song? Dude?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
For now?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Question?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Nah, I think the fart in a Santa suit.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Well, I mean if they're sixty fifties sixty million subscribers
whatever it is, oh my god, yeah, then the more
more reach and that shows but on for a decade.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
You need to read the article because you know the
answer to your question is yes, right far and away. Yeah,
but it will like give you even the fervor of
the worship by their And I shouldn't use the word
worship because they're faith based a lot of what they do,
and they incorporate it into what they do, so I
(03:13):
probably shouldn't have used that word in that context. But
the devotion of those kids that are into their stuff,
and it's pretty evident in the article because she goes
to you know, they go on tour and they do
these shows, and so she went to their show out
there at out at Dicky's and it's talking about that
experience and seeing what the crowd does and how they
(03:35):
react to different things, and so yes, it's very much
what you're talking about. Some little girl that's her favorite
song because she watches overtime or whatever. But anyways, that's
the the you know, one thing that really struck me
is I'm reading something going this. This is because you
guys we talked about this. There was a lot of
people that thought the Luka Doncicic men's health article was AI.
(03:59):
Really yeah huh, because not only did Luka doncic not
go to the combine, he does not have a forty
two inch vers right, So what it did was even
our buddy Nick Engstad said, I think the AI search
out and inadvertently posted Dante Divincenzo's information. Yeah, okay, So
what's interesting about that is I didn't even read that article.
I just saw the picture and that's all I needed, right,
(04:21):
you know what I mean, yeah, that's interesting and so
so anyways, that's kind of what like had put that
on my radar. Okay, another quick thing I'm going to
get to here. Macha has taken over my life.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
You're gonna need to tell.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
People what that is.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Okay, did did?
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Do you know what machi is? Christina explain it to Kevin. No, no,
you don't explaining it. But I know it's just like
a green powder. I know Starbucks has loved it for
a year now, and well white white.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Girls everywhere love it. Yes, but it's.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Uh, the taste. I'm not a fan of the taste
because it tastes green. Not either, it does taste green,
but yeah, it's supposed to be super for you.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
It comes from the same leaf that green tea comes from.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I love it because simultaneously, as you're exploring this in
Japanese interval speed walking, the lady who was like, y'all
want to know who I date and who I go with?
You know, that went viral. I don't know if y'all
know that. And then this car sales guy goes, no,
but I think you think you're black, and that thing went,
oh you told me about that. Yeah, but she's really
into Macha right now. So she's like always talking about
(05:28):
Macha and so this is great. You guys have so
much in common. My son is calling me a performative male. Okay, okay,
He's like, he goes, are you going to start wearing
loafers perform female?
Speaker 1 (05:39):
No? No, no, He's like, there's a certain type of
male that is willing to talk about Macha. He wears
loafers and he's performing his idea. That's pretty good. So
here's just so you know. Now we've talked about how
much coffee that Ben and I drink, and I'll wrap
this up, but your average eight ounce cup of has
(06:00):
about two hundred milligrams of caffeine, whereas your average eight
ounce cup of Macha will definitely have less than one
hundred and thirty. And when they describe the caffeine, caffeine
and coffee is rapidly absorbed, leading to a quick burst
of energy followed by a crash. The l Theian nine
in Machia slows down caffeine absorption, resulting in a more sustained,
(06:25):
gradual release of energy and potentially preventing jitters or crash.
In the last two days since I've been on my
macha kick, I've had less than three cups of coffee combined.
Let's go comparatively. Cannadyc coke is forty five, Is that right?
How many die Cokes you drink in a day a half?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Or none?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Or one that's pretty good? Yeah, never more than one.
You need to get machya with a little bit of
oat milk and some vanilla strawberry, and you guys will
like to taste.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
That sounds good, having all right? Coming up next in
the Hollywood Shuffle or any of us smarter than Matt Damon,
we'll find out
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