December 3, 2025 • 7 mins
“Can one of the most embarrassing plays in NBA history actually help a team win?”That’s where Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray kick off this hilarious and nostalgic episode of The Ben and Skin Show on 97.1 The Eagle.Maxi Kleber’s infamous airball layup—why LeBron was laughing so hard he covered his face, and how that blooper somehow sparked a Lakers win. The funniest reactions, including announcers desperately trying to be nice: “The rim jammed him up!”A trip down memory lane as the crew debates the fate of old-school cable channels like Fuse TV and AXS—remember emo music videos and Robert Walonsky’s Sundance interviews?Skin’s late-night quest for “white noise” TV and why documentaries with endless resets are the ultimate sleep aid.Plus, wild speculation on which channels have reinvented themselves with streaming apps like Fuse Plus—and whether anyone is actually watching.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
beIN and skin Show nine one point one to eagle.
We're gonna give away bad Omens tickets at some point today.
You gotta be listening. You have to have your iHeart
app so you can use the talkback feature and uh
you'll be in the mix. We're gonna give them away
all this week, and don't forget. Also on Friday, we're
gonna be at the Pluckers in Dallas, right Addison, Addison,
screw me, We're gonna be at the Pluckers in Addison.
(00:22):
Come join us three to six. That'll be the last
pair of tickets we have to see bad Omens for
the week. So an added bonus to go along with
your wings and your beer. But right now it's time
for this track. Another edition of things Skinner is tracking.
I got a bunch of quick hit stuff here, but
(00:42):
I want to start today. In the Athletic, they had
an oral history of Maxi Klevea's air ball layup.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Oh my god, it was bad.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I saw it and I saw Lebron cracking up on
the bench and it was just a god. What happened
to our guy? No, no, no, it's funny. So he
took it all very well and as it turns out,
somehow Gabe Vincent, who was a backup guard for the Lakers,
remembered in two thousand and seven when JJ Reddick had
(01:12):
an airball lamb nice. So the point of the article
is that and this ended up being a good thing.
It's embarrassing for Maxi, but they turned it into the
entire team loves Maxi, and that airball layup won them
the game because the circumstances where the Lakers were blowing
out the Pelicans and then they just stopped, they started
(01:33):
playing with their food and stopped painting attention, and they
lost all their momentum, and they had gone four straight
possessions without scoring. And then suddenly Maxi has a potential
and one driving layup and he finger rolls the layup
and it goes backwards okay, and then the announcers are like,
oh my gosh, the rim jammed him up, and then
(01:54):
they replayed he goes it looks like he just didn't
have enough to get it there. They're trying to be
nice about it, and then to Ben's point, they cut
to Lebron who's laughing so hard he covers his face,
and then Maxi has to go to the free throw line.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
He makes both free throws.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
When he makes the second one, DeAndre Ayton gives him
a standing ovation on the bench. And then the Lakers
got all their mojo back and blew out the Pelicans.
And so then they they go in there and they
talk to like nine different people and they're all talking
about Man, we love Maxi so much and his energy
is so good we couldn't stop laughing, and it reinvigorated us.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
And he's the reason we won that.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Kick because of his airball lamp. So if you have
not seen the clip of it, go watch it. It's
very funny, and then take the time to read the article.
It's great stuff. It is really good.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I hate that that's now going to be his basketball
legacy though.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yeah. Yeah, going on his tombstone, air balled a finger
roll lap. The ball goes backwards. It's crazy. He's going
forward and the ball.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
The bunny.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
It's so funny, dude, it's so funny. Anyway, So that's
that all.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Right.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
About two weeks ago, we were talking about fringe cable
channels and I talked to you guys about watching axs,
and you know, we were watching the Greatest Mysteries and
rock music, which Christina, it's really good fodder for your
cookie jar, it really is. But last night I was
slipping around and I think this is a staple of
(03:28):
KT and Christina's teenage years.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Fuse TV. Yes, have you ever heard of fuse TV?
Ben' fuse TV?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Like what they show a like super cuts and kids
doing skate tricks and stuff and wild videos.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
No there is a name for that though, Okay, okay, no.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Fuse TV was the Canadian MTV, and so they used
to show music videos.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
It was twenty four to seven music videos, no commercials ever.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
And I seem to recall the times that I stumbled
across it. It was definitely like emo rock, yes, and
maybe that was just the time period of what was happening.
Six yeah, five oh six yeah. So I hadn't thought
about fuse TV in a million years. But as we
talk about, things reinvent themselves in the streaming air. So
I'm flipping around. I try to find things that I
(04:17):
can fall asleep to within five minutes, Like, all right,
what is just good white noise? You know, you know,
all the things you recommend would put me to sleep
in five minutes. The Robin Noodle, documentary is great to
sleep too. So I saw and I didn't even realize
I was watching Fuse TV, but I saw Freddie Mercury
something and I was like, all right, that's probably some documentary,
(04:41):
and I put it on and started watching it. And
there's a style of documentary. There's documentary that's theatrical, and
then there's documentary that's made for cable. You know the
style I'm talking about, right, Like, it's the way they
do the crime scene stuff where they repeat the same
thing going into the break out of the break. Yeah,
(05:02):
the resets and rejoins, constant resets, constant rejoins, bad narration,
talking heads, the same talking head comes back in the
next break.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I mean, it's it's that filling time. Yeah, they're filling time.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
And so then when they went to a commercial break,
I realized I was watching Fuse TV because I hadn't
thought about it in forever. And you can get their
content guys on Fuse TV and Fuse Plus episodes on there.
I don't know, maybe if you want to see early
Drake because it is very Canadian. But but I started
(05:37):
thinking about the fate of old cable channels that used
to just crank back in the day, so many like
fix Her Upper Channels, Cuban Head one Axsy.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Still have it or not?
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I think he sold it. I'm pretty sure he sold it.
Remember Robert Wolanski did a movie review show on it.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Oh yeah, dude, I remember that.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah. I mean Wolansky would go to all the big
film festivals and have I remember watching Robert Rolansky sitting
down with now I'm blanking on the name of the
drummer for the police, Stuart Copeland. He had a whole
interview with Stuart Copeland at sun Dance. They're sitting there
on a you know, there's snow everywhere.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
It's it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
But yeah, those channels used to thrive and now they're
all dying because to send Robert Rolanski to a film
festival with a camera crew and all the expenses that
go into that, yeah, you're not gonna make up the
money and the ad sales in it.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So it's like, right, we're not gonna do that.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
And so I thought about that, and I was like,
how do those things continue on?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
And now I'm on a mission. I'll see what I
can find out.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
How many cable channels that we used to scroll through
a decade ago. Now have their variation of fuse plus.
How many of them have streaming apps or some sort
of streaming platform or some sort of plus. And I'm
dying to know how well fuse plus is doing. We
changed their identity survive, Yes, because it's not emo music
(07:03):
videos anymore clearly.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I mean that which one plus max probably exists.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
It's gotta So that's my next research project. As I
still look, I still have AT and T to that
I do. I still have AT and T uverse. So
I'm still going through channels looking at International ghost Hunter
or whatever pops up in the middle that I am.
You know, hey, here's my Junkyard sale. You know all
those shows that used to be everywhere. There used to
be a whole industry of reality television shows. Everyone had
(07:30):
the gas Monkey guy for example. Yeah, he's still doing stuff. Yeah,
I just don't know where it exists. Maybe there's gas
Monkey plus. I don't All Right, there you have it.
There's things Skin is tracking, Uh, Christina's cookie jar coming up?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Why Peta is coming after Alison Chains? But next we
got movie news. I will review the movie Begonia next
beIN and skin Show nine one point one to eagle.
We're gonna give away bad Omens tickets at some point today.
You gotta be listening. You have to have your iHeart
app so you can use the talkback feature and uh
you'll be in the mix. We're gonna give them away
all this week, and don't forget. Also on Friday, we're
gonna be at the Pluckers in Dallas, right Addison, Addison,
screw me, We're gonna be at the Pluckers in Addison.
(00:22):
Come join us three to six. That'll be the last
pair of tickets we have to see bad Omens for
the week. So an added bonus to go along with
your wings and your beer. But right now it's time
for this track. Another edition of things Skinner is tracking.
I got a bunch of quick hit stuff here, but
(00:42):
I want to start today. In the Athletic, they had
an oral history of Maxi Klevea's air ball layup.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Oh my god, it was bad.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I saw it and I saw Lebron cracking up on
the bench and it was just a god. What happened
to our guy? No, no, no, it's funny. So he
took it all very well and as it turns out,
somehow Gabe Vincent, who was a backup guard for the Lakers,
remembered in two thousand and seven when JJ Reddick had
(01:12):
an airball lamb nice. So the point of the article
is that and this ended up being a good thing.
It's embarrassing for Maxi, but they turned it into the
entire team loves Maxi, and that airball layup won them
the game because the circumstances where the Lakers were blowing
out the Pelicans and then they just stopped, they started
(01:33):
playing with their food and stopped painting attention, and they
lost all their momentum, and they had gone four straight
possessions without scoring. And then suddenly Maxi has a potential
and one driving layup and he finger rolls the layup
and it goes backwards okay, and then the announcers are like,
oh my gosh, the rim jammed him up, and then
(01:54):
they replayed he goes it looks like he just didn't
have enough to get it there. They're trying to be
nice about it, and then to Ben's point, they cut
to Lebron who's laughing so hard he covers his face,
and then Maxi has to go to the free throw line.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
He makes both free throws.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
When he makes the second one, DeAndre Ayton gives him
a standing ovation on the bench. And then the Lakers
got all their mojo back and blew out the Pelicans.
And so then they they go in there and they
talk to like nine different people and they're all talking
about Man, we love Maxi so much and his energy
is so good we couldn't stop laughing, and it reinvigorated us.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
And he's the reason we won that.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Kick because of his airball lamp. So if you have
not seen the clip of it, go watch it. It's
very funny, and then take the time to read the article.
It's great stuff. It is really good.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I hate that that's now going to be his basketball
legacy though.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yeah. Yeah, going on his tombstone, air balled a finger
roll lap. The ball goes backwards. It's crazy. He's going
forward and the ball.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
The bunny.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
It's so funny, dude, it's so funny. Anyway, So that's
that all.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Right.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
About two weeks ago, we were talking about fringe cable
channels and I talked to you guys about watching axs,
and you know, we were watching the Greatest Mysteries and
rock music, which Christina, it's really good fodder for your
cookie jar, it really is. But last night I was
slipping around and I think this is a staple of
(03:28):
KT and Christina's teenage years.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Fuse TV. Yes, have you ever heard of fuse TV?
Ben' fuse TV?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Like what they show a like super cuts and kids
doing skate tricks and stuff and wild videos.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
No there is a name for that though, Okay, okay, no.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Fuse TV was the Canadian MTV, and so they used
to show music videos.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
It was twenty four to seven music videos, no commercials ever.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
And I seem to recall the times that I stumbled
across it. It was definitely like emo rock, yes, and
maybe that was just the time period of what was happening.
Six yeah, five oh six yeah. So I hadn't thought
about fuse TV in a million years. But as we
talk about, things reinvent themselves in the streaming air. So
I'm flipping around. I try to find things that I
(04:17):
can fall asleep to within five minutes, Like, all right,
what is just good white noise? You know, you know,
all the things you recommend would put me to sleep
in five minutes. The Robin Noodle, documentary is great to
sleep too. So I saw and I didn't even realize
I was watching Fuse TV, but I saw Freddie Mercury
something and I was like, all right, that's probably some documentary,
(04:41):
and I put it on and started watching it. And
there's a style of documentary. There's documentary that's theatrical, and
then there's documentary that's made for cable. You know the
style I'm talking about, right, Like, it's the way they
do the crime scene stuff where they repeat the same
thing going into the break out of the break. Yeah,
(05:02):
the resets and rejoins, constant resets, constant rejoins, bad narration,
talking heads, the same talking head comes back in the
next break.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I mean, it's it's that filling time. Yeah, they're filling time.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
And so then when they went to a commercial break,
I realized I was watching Fuse TV because I hadn't
thought about it in forever. And you can get their
content guys on Fuse TV and Fuse Plus episodes on there.
I don't know, maybe if you want to see early
Drake because it is very Canadian. But but I started
(05:37):
thinking about the fate of old cable channels that used
to just crank back in the day, so many like
fix Her Upper Channels, Cuban Head one Axsy.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Still have it or not?
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I think he sold it. I'm pretty sure he sold it.
Remember Robert Wolanski did a movie review show on it.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Oh yeah, dude, I remember that.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah. I mean Wolansky would go to all the big
film festivals and have I remember watching Robert Rolansky sitting
down with now I'm blanking on the name of the
drummer for the police, Stuart Copeland. He had a whole
interview with Stuart Copeland at sun Dance. They're sitting there
on a you know, there's snow everywhere.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
It's it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
But yeah, those channels used to thrive and now they're
all dying because to send Robert Rolanski to a film
festival with a camera crew and all the expenses that
go into that, yeah, you're not gonna make up the
money and the ad sales in it.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So it's like, right, we're not gonna do that.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
And so I thought about that, and I was like,
how do those things continue on?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
And now I'm on a mission. I'll see what I
can find out.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
How many cable channels that we used to scroll through
a decade ago. Now have their variation of fuse plus.
How many of them have streaming apps or some sort
of streaming platform or some sort of plus. And I'm
dying to know how well fuse plus is doing. We
changed their identity survive, Yes, because it's not emo music
(07:03):
videos anymore clearly.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I mean that which one plus max probably exists.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
It's gotta So that's my next research project. As I
still look, I still have AT and T to that
I do. I still have AT and T uverse. So
I'm still going through channels looking at International ghost Hunter
or whatever pops up in the middle that I am.
You know, hey, here's my Junkyard sale. You know all
those shows that used to be everywhere. There used to
be a whole industry of reality television shows. Everyone had
(07:30):
the gas Monkey guy for example. Yeah, he's still doing stuff. Yeah,
I just don't know where it exists. Maybe there's gas
Monkey plus. I don't All Right, there you have it.
There's things Skin is tracking, Uh, Christina's cookie jar coming up?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Why Peta is coming after Alison Chains? But next we
got movie news. I will review the movie Begonia next
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