July 17, 2025 • 6 mins
“What happens when the most feared man in wrestling grills Micah Parsons about his Cowboys contract?”In this unforgettable episode of The Ben and Skin Show, Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray dive headfirst into one of the most bizarre and brilliant sports moments of the year: Micah Parsons sitting down with The Undertaker—yes, that Undertaker—for a podcast interview that quickly turns into a contract negotiation showdown.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Now it is around the sports KTD tweets as.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
All the sports.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Yes, good job, Kevin.
Speaker 4 (00:13):
You know when you look at anything that's just crazy
that's happened in twenty twenty five, and there's been a
lot of crazy things just the world.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
It's chaos at all times.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
But nothing's more symbolic of that than getting the most
insightful commentary on the Dallas Cowboys and the Michaeh. Parsons
contract issue than the podcast hosted by the Undertaker.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
All right, this is.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
I thought he had passed away, so this is good
to know that he's still doing stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Decided that he was on our show like three years ago.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Because he's the Undertaker, he surrounds himself with death and
much like the doll Annabelle, when you bring all that
negativity in your world, bad things happen.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
The Undertaker does a podcast and his guest is Michael Parsons.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
I want you guys to know that Michael Parsons is
wearing one of those big hats. He said a Cowboys
got Emmitt Smiths jersey on, and he's got a cowboy
hat on. But it's one of those big hats. It's
like bigger than his head, you know, or as Ben
would say, all hat and no cattle.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
You guys have seen this, right, It's like a styrofoam
cowboy hat, like a.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
No no, no baseball cat, but it's.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
Big, oh, giant baseball.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah you've seen these.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I don't know, you don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I don't think guys, Ben has Let's move on.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Okay, you need to see it all right, So the
Undertaker's got him, and.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Then my kid did not.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
I got the feeling that Micah did not expect this
to come up. So little did we know that the
Undertaker is a big sports fan.
Speaker 7 (01:40):
How are we coming along with the contract man? Can
you talk about it?
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Because look, so my kid goes and starts chugging water
after the question.
Speaker 7 (01:49):
How are we coming along with the contract man? Can
you talk about it?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Because look I listen, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:57):
Drink at a drink of water.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, that's not a good.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
We obviously want to get done early. We want that
relief off our backs. But obviously ownership is always gonna
make a drag out, make it make it more complicated
than it has to be. Lack of communication in that standpoint.
But you know, I just always say God has me
this far. He ain't done with me yet, So you know,
I just just keep working, keep going, and then when
it comes, I'm gonna be ready. But you know, it
(02:21):
ain't gonna be no drop off.
Speaker 7 (02:22):
It seems like to me they would want to get
it done because.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
This is amazing for a lot of reasons.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
It's the Undertaker.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Well that's the main thing.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
But is it is best when you're negotiating with someone
to suddenly put them in the position where they're negotiating
with God.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I respect that.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
And then also he said, obviously, and then listen all
these horrible things about management, but he's right on all
of it.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
They were gonna draw it out.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
It's gonna be unnecessary, it's gonna be a terrible story.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
It's gonna be bad for everyone. We know we're going
to go through that.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I love the Undertaker's voice.
Speaker 7 (02:59):
How are we coming along? It's a contract man.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
That's a good voice, like the Chili guy.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
God has me this far. He ain't done with me yet,
So you know, I just just keep working, keep going,
and then when they come, I'm gonna be ready. But
you know, it ain't gonna be no drop off.
Speaker 8 (03:13):
It seems like to me like they would want to
get it done because there's a few other contracts out
there that are going to probably say what you're gonna
get end up getting paid.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I would never understand that we wanted to do the
contract last year. It's just kind of like we want
to do DAK and CD and then you go out
there perform again, and then you know, you would think like,
all right, we'll get it done early. We know there's
some guys that is about to get ready to get repaid,
like Miles. You know Max is going, so you would
think like, hey, let's get ahead of that, you know
what I mean. I just never understand, you know, when
guys come into the league and they're consistent and then
(03:45):
you know they perform well, why they.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Got such an urge.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
But then there's guys that just have one good year,
maybe two good years, and it's just like they get
it right away. And now even now you got TJ
and Max and all these other guys is getting paid,
and you can't want us to take less because you
just wanted to decide to wait.
Speaker 7 (04:01):
You know, you know what I don't.
Speaker 8 (04:02):
I don't have any doubt you're gonna get what you
deserve to get, and I can't wait for you to
do that.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
Man.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Are you guys interested in a NFL Players Association slash
CBA show hosted by the Undertaker?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yes? Hey, maybe special guests Caine. Oh my gosh, are you?
Are you all following?
Speaker 5 (04:21):
I'm sure you're at least familiar with what's happening with
guaranteed contracts in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Are you following the story?
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Second rounders they're all getting in and signing today, are
they okay? Cause that Domino fil yesterday with the dude
from the Browns, right, And so there's a whole thing
where Pablo Torre did a whole expose on a bunch
of basically it's collusion where the owners were congratulating one
another on not having to dole out a bunch of
guaranteed money on contracts and with a hard salary cap.
(04:48):
And so it's like kind of coming to this apex
where the NFL is about to have another labor situation.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
The cowboy second round draft pick Donovan Azerique, who might
start a defensive man who knows probably a lot but
maybe is not signed his contract yet.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
But he's like, I'll go to work there. I don't
know what training camp starts next. Week.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I don't know if he'll be practicing, but he's like,
I want my agent handling. He's not mad or anything.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
There is the guy from A and M that wants
to go back to college and doesn't want to.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Sign the Bengals first round pick is not signed with
the Bingals and is probably going back to college.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Wow, but then don't they still retain his rights? I
believe they do. And that's where it's very very weird.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
But what he's saying, what MIKEA is saying there is
what we've been talking about on the radio for a
long time, and Kavanaugh was always talking about this as well.
The idea that once you identify a player that can play,
go ahead and get a deal done.
Speaker 7 (05:39):
Why wait?
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Every time you wait, you just have to overpay.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
TJ.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Watt is about to sign the deal and they're gonna
have to go in above that number.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Now, that's why they had to pay daxa damn much.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
They could have done this before Miles Garrett signed his
They would have saved five, ten, fifteen million dollars.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
That matter is in a salary cap world.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Unreal man.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
All right, there you have it.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
There's Around the Sports coming up next in the audio
bubble bath. This is important content. There is a new
sports fart in the world. We've got audio. Don't miss
this next
Now it is around the sports KTD tweets as.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
All the sports.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Yes, good job, Kevin.
Speaker 4 (00:13):
You know when you look at anything that's just crazy
that's happened in twenty twenty five, and there's been a
lot of crazy things just the world.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
It's chaos at all times.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
But nothing's more symbolic of that than getting the most
insightful commentary on the Dallas Cowboys and the Michaeh. Parsons
contract issue than the podcast hosted by the Undertaker.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
All right, this is.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
I thought he had passed away, so this is good
to know that he's still doing stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Decided that he was on our show like three years ago.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Because he's the Undertaker, he surrounds himself with death and
much like the doll Annabelle, when you bring all that
negativity in your world, bad things happen.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
The Undertaker does a podcast and his guest is Michael Parsons.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
I want you guys to know that Michael Parsons is
wearing one of those big hats. He said a Cowboys
got Emmitt Smiths jersey on, and he's got a cowboy
hat on. But it's one of those big hats. It's
like bigger than his head, you know, or as Ben
would say, all hat and no cattle.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
You guys have seen this, right, It's like a styrofoam
cowboy hat, like a.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
No no, no baseball cat, but it's.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
Big, oh, giant baseball.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah you've seen these.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I don't know, you don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I don't think guys, Ben has Let's move on.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Okay, you need to see it all right, So the
Undertaker's got him, and.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Then my kid did not.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
I got the feeling that Micah did not expect this
to come up. So little did we know that the
Undertaker is a big sports fan.
Speaker 7 (01:40):
How are we coming along with the contract man? Can
you talk about it?
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Because look, so my kid goes and starts chugging water
after the question.
Speaker 7 (01:49):
How are we coming along with the contract man? Can
you talk about it?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Because look I listen, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:57):
Drink at a drink of water.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, that's not a good.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
We obviously want to get done early. We want that
relief off our backs. But obviously ownership is always gonna
make a drag out, make it make it more complicated
than it has to be. Lack of communication in that standpoint.
But you know, I just always say God has me
this far. He ain't done with me yet, So you know,
I just just keep working, keep going, and then when
it comes, I'm gonna be ready. But you know, it
(02:21):
ain't gonna be no drop off.
Speaker 7 (02:22):
It seems like to me they would want to get
it done because.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
This is amazing for a lot of reasons.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
It's the Undertaker.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Well that's the main thing.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
But is it is best when you're negotiating with someone
to suddenly put them in the position where they're negotiating
with God.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I respect that.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
And then also he said, obviously, and then listen all
these horrible things about management, but he's right on all
of it.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
They were gonna draw it out.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
It's gonna be unnecessary, it's gonna be a terrible story.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
It's gonna be bad for everyone. We know we're going
to go through that.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I love the Undertaker's voice.
Speaker 7 (02:59):
How are we coming along? It's a contract man.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
That's a good voice, like the Chili guy.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
God has me this far. He ain't done with me yet,
So you know, I just just keep working, keep going,
and then when they come, I'm gonna be ready. But
you know, it ain't gonna be no drop off.
Speaker 8 (03:13):
It seems like to me like they would want to
get it done because there's a few other contracts out
there that are going to probably say what you're gonna
get end up getting paid.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I would never understand that we wanted to do the
contract last year. It's just kind of like we want
to do DAK and CD and then you go out
there perform again, and then you know, you would think like,
all right, we'll get it done early. We know there's
some guys that is about to get ready to get repaid,
like Miles. You know Max is going, so you would
think like, hey, let's get ahead of that, you know
what I mean. I just never understand, you know, when
guys come into the league and they're consistent and then
(03:45):
you know they perform well, why they.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Got such an urge.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
But then there's guys that just have one good year,
maybe two good years, and it's just like they get
it right away. And now even now you got TJ
and Max and all these other guys is getting paid,
and you can't want us to take less because you
just wanted to decide to wait.
Speaker 7 (04:01):
You know, you know what I don't.
Speaker 8 (04:02):
I don't have any doubt you're gonna get what you
deserve to get, and I can't wait for you to
do that.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
Man.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Are you guys interested in a NFL Players Association slash
CBA show hosted by the Undertaker?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yes? Hey, maybe special guests Caine. Oh my gosh, are you?
Are you all following?
Speaker 5 (04:21):
I'm sure you're at least familiar with what's happening with
guaranteed contracts in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Are you following the story?
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Second rounders they're all getting in and signing today, are
they okay? Cause that Domino fil yesterday with the dude
from the Browns, right, And so there's a whole thing
where Pablo Torre did a whole expose on a bunch
of basically it's collusion where the owners were congratulating one
another on not having to dole out a bunch of
guaranteed money on contracts and with a hard salary cap.
(04:48):
And so it's like kind of coming to this apex
where the NFL is about to have another labor situation.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
The cowboy second round draft pick Donovan Azerique, who might
start a defensive man who knows probably a lot but
maybe is not signed his contract yet.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
But he's like, I'll go to work there. I don't
know what training camp starts next. Week.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I don't know if he'll be practicing, but he's like,
I want my agent handling. He's not mad or anything.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
There is the guy from A and M that wants
to go back to college and doesn't want to.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Sign the Bengals first round pick is not signed with
the Bingals and is probably going back to college.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Wow, but then don't they still retain his rights? I
believe they do. And that's where it's very very weird.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
But what he's saying, what MIKEA is saying there is
what we've been talking about on the radio for a
long time, and Kavanaugh was always talking about this as well.
The idea that once you identify a player that can play,
go ahead and get a deal done.
Speaker 7 (05:39):
Why wait?
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Every time you wait, you just have to overpay.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
TJ.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Watt is about to sign the deal and they're gonna
have to go in above that number.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Now, that's why they had to pay daxa damn much.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
They could have done this before Miles Garrett signed his
They would have saved five, ten, fifteen million dollars.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
That matter is in a salary cap world.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Unreal man.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
All right, there you have it.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
There's Around the Sports coming up next in the audio
bubble bath. This is important content. There is a new
sports fart in the world. We've got audio. Don't miss
this next
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