July 30, 2025 • 6 mins
“Is Jerry Jones really trying to negotiate million-dollar contracts over a McGriddle?”In this laugh-out-loud, no-holds-barred episode of The Ben and Skin Show, Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray dive headfirst into the latest Dallas Cowboys drama—and it’s juicier than a training camp breakfast sandwich.From Brian Schottenheimer randomly belting out the Pointer Sisters to Adam Schefter sounding like he’s giving himself a pep talk in the mirror, this episode is packed with unforgettable moments and razor-sharp commentary. KT recalls a hilariously awkward elevator encounter with Schefter (“If you don’t acknowledge me, I’m about to tweet that you smell like ass”), while the crew breaks down the Micah Parsons contract standoff with a mix of frustration, insight, and pure comedic gold.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Cowboy.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Our first Cowboys update is that apparently today during his
press conference, Brian Schottenheimer sag a part of I'm so
excited by the Pointer sisters during his Wednesday press that's great.
What a big week for the Pointer sisters. Yeah, they
haven't had this type of publicity in decades. This is
(00:38):
wonderful for them.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
And you know.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
The irony, of course, is that Thomas Hollywood Henderson, famous
Cowboy linebacker, either dated or married one of the Pointer sisters.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
I believe it was Ruth really.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah, he had a thing with one of the Pointers.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Adam Schefter was on ESPN using a little bit of
an overly dramatic voice. I feel like he's not talking normal.
I don't think he says if you bumped into him
on an elevator I have before, and he didn't know
I was there. I tried to start a little conversation
with him. Didn't work, but.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
They started that weather Shifty, Yeah, how'd you start it?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Man?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
How about that weather? Yeah, something like that, And he
just looked at you. Yeah, he kept looking. He just
got to workout.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
In I remember when I saw him on an elevator,
I was like, shifty, stick to football dude.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I was like, if you don't acknowledge me, I'm about
to tweet that you smell like ass. I just gotten
out of the fitness center of the hotel. Why I
probably crushed some waffles. I just feel like this is
not if he was talking to you, he wouldn't talk
to you like this. And here's his report on the
Micah Parsons contract negotiations with the Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
I would say, right now, we're nowhere. We are further
away from a deal in late July early August than
we were in late March early April. The two sides
have gone backwards. I don't think they're speaking very much
these days, if at all. There was communication in late
March and early April when Jerry Jones and Mike Parsons
were sitting down and discussing a deal and making progress
(02:04):
and tracking towards getting that deal done. It's not a
negotiation right now. There's really no conversation about getting a
deal done. That could change next week. It could change
shortly before the season. This sounds different to me. This
sounds a little bit more personal from both sides. It
(02:24):
sounds like Dallas is upset with the fact that it
felt like it was getting closer to a deal. I
think Micah Parsons feels like this deal should.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Have been done.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
I don't think Micah is real happy with them. I
don't think they're real happy with him, and I don't
think there's a deal that's being discussed right now, not
to mention being close.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Okay, let me tell you that piece of audio hits
way different. If you just imagine it's him talking to
himself in the mirror.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
You can do it, Adam, you can do it.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I thought this last week, and feel free to tell
me I'm an idiot. I had this feeling last week
when Jerry was saying what he was saying up on
the podium. And keep in mind, of course, I want
the Cowboys to do well. Lived here my whole life.
It's good for the Cowboys to do well. In my
heart of hearts. I was sitting there going, man, I'd
love it for Mike to have a badass year and
(03:20):
just walk at the end of the year and just
tell the Cowboys to suck it. I'm just so tired
of this routine. And you know, I don't want I
don't want the Cowboys to be damaged. I'm not being vindictive,
but the way that they carry themselves on this stuff,
it's wearing me out. And I was kind of like,
I would love it if that guy's had an incredible
year and just went and took all the money from
the commanders.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Because could they franchise him if and that's going to
be a huge amount, and they would do that, They
absolutely would, and they do have that available. Yeah, man,
this is ugly. There's no reason this should still be going. Look,
when you get a guy who's really good at at
what he does and you know he's good, sign him
(04:02):
up as soon as you can, because the longer you wait,
it just costs you money. So I don't see the
upside in waiting unless he's asking for something that is
just out of control. Range for him is like forty
two million a year or something like that. If he's
asking for fifty, okay, I get it. But that's not
what this feels like.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
And Michah has said publicly, going back to on his
own podcast, like little things like that, how he would
take less and it's not trying to get to forty
and that back then he would have taken thirty three
or thirty four. Now his agent's probably going, don't worry
about what Micah said. I'm I'll handle this, and that
might be where the disconnect is. Jerry wants Micah to
go to his office and meet, and MICA's agent might
(04:41):
be going, dude, don't go in there. You so you
just hang back and I'll take care of it. And
Steven's going, well, if he wants to get paid and
get paid, and that's probably a little bit of a
standoff because there's a way these things work and it's not,
at least it shouldn't be. I'm gonna go have a
meeting at Jerry's. Well, he's having a mcgriddle. That's not
the way we should be doing this. And that's why
(05:02):
I think, uh, this will get done at the end
of August. And it's fine. I'm bored with it, honestly. Yeah,
And this is where I'm in go mode on a
couple other things. If they're trying to make a point
of signing guys early, and they gave Jake Versus a
pretty nice little contract for him and for the team,
I think, pretty team friendly, pretty good for everyone. Yeah, Hey,
that's pretty good business if we can do that right now,
(05:23):
because we're obsessed with the Micah thing. Then Deron Bland.
Let's go Tyler Smith, let's go Brandon Aubrey, let's do it.
Let's do it right now.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I thought that's one of the reasons they got the
deal done, you know, with Ferguson, was because I think
they're going to start removing anybody who might need that
franchise tag because they're getting they need to keep it available.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Man.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
The other way another person is George Pickens. They may
want that for George Pickens, which they're like, all right,
we want to keep him one more year.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Interesting. You know that it's bad business, though, to franchise quarterback,
pass rushers and wide receivers. You franchise running backs, you
franchise kicker. You know, you franchise guys that the top
of their position group doesn't make a bunch of money.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Except for Pickens. I like it because he's such a
wild card. Having him on a one year deal where
he's got a lot to play for is good. Maybe
you could do that for two years in a row. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah, everything's rosy right now with George Pickens. Will have
a very good idea, depending on how the season goes well,
I have a very good idea if he's a guy
you want around or not.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
All right?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Coming up next, the big story of the day is
the tsunami, so we will discuss that in just over
three minutes.
Cowboy.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Our first Cowboys update is that apparently today during his
press conference, Brian Schottenheimer sag a part of I'm so
excited by the Pointer sisters during his Wednesday press that's great.
What a big week for the Pointer sisters. Yeah, they
haven't had this type of publicity in decades. This is
(00:38):
wonderful for them.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
And you know.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
The irony, of course, is that Thomas Hollywood Henderson, famous
Cowboy linebacker, either dated or married one of the Pointer sisters.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
I believe it was Ruth really.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah, he had a thing with one of the Pointers.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Adam Schefter was on ESPN using a little bit of
an overly dramatic voice. I feel like he's not talking normal.
I don't think he says if you bumped into him
on an elevator I have before, and he didn't know
I was there. I tried to start a little conversation
with him. Didn't work, but.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
They started that weather Shifty, Yeah, how'd you start it?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Man?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
How about that weather? Yeah, something like that, And he
just looked at you. Yeah, he kept looking. He just
got to workout.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
In I remember when I saw him on an elevator,
I was like, shifty, stick to football dude.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I was like, if you don't acknowledge me, I'm about
to tweet that you smell like ass. I just gotten
out of the fitness center of the hotel. Why I
probably crushed some waffles. I just feel like this is
not if he was talking to you, he wouldn't talk
to you like this. And here's his report on the
Micah Parsons contract negotiations with the Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
I would say, right now, we're nowhere. We are further
away from a deal in late July early August than
we were in late March early April. The two sides
have gone backwards. I don't think they're speaking very much
these days, if at all. There was communication in late
March and early April when Jerry Jones and Mike Parsons
were sitting down and discussing a deal and making progress
(02:04):
and tracking towards getting that deal done. It's not a
negotiation right now. There's really no conversation about getting a
deal done. That could change next week. It could change
shortly before the season. This sounds different to me. This
sounds a little bit more personal from both sides. It
(02:24):
sounds like Dallas is upset with the fact that it
felt like it was getting closer to a deal. I
think Micah Parsons feels like this deal should.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Have been done.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
I don't think Micah is real happy with them. I
don't think they're real happy with him, and I don't
think there's a deal that's being discussed right now, not
to mention being close.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Okay, let me tell you that piece of audio hits
way different. If you just imagine it's him talking to
himself in the mirror.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
You can do it, Adam, you can do it.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I thought this last week, and feel free to tell
me I'm an idiot. I had this feeling last week
when Jerry was saying what he was saying up on
the podium. And keep in mind, of course, I want
the Cowboys to do well. Lived here my whole life.
It's good for the Cowboys to do well. In my
heart of hearts. I was sitting there going, man, I'd
love it for Mike to have a badass year and
(03:20):
just walk at the end of the year and just
tell the Cowboys to suck it. I'm just so tired
of this routine. And you know, I don't want I
don't want the Cowboys to be damaged. I'm not being vindictive,
but the way that they carry themselves on this stuff,
it's wearing me out. And I was kind of like,
I would love it if that guy's had an incredible
year and just went and took all the money from
the commanders.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Because could they franchise him if and that's going to
be a huge amount, and they would do that, They
absolutely would, and they do have that available. Yeah, man,
this is ugly. There's no reason this should still be going. Look,
when you get a guy who's really good at at
what he does and you know he's good, sign him
(04:02):
up as soon as you can, because the longer you wait,
it just costs you money. So I don't see the
upside in waiting unless he's asking for something that is
just out of control. Range for him is like forty
two million a year or something like that. If he's
asking for fifty, okay, I get it. But that's not
what this feels like.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
And Michah has said publicly, going back to on his
own podcast, like little things like that, how he would
take less and it's not trying to get to forty
and that back then he would have taken thirty three
or thirty four. Now his agent's probably going, don't worry
about what Micah said. I'm I'll handle this, and that
might be where the disconnect is. Jerry wants Micah to
go to his office and meet, and MICA's agent might
(04:41):
be going, dude, don't go in there. You so you
just hang back and I'll take care of it. And
Steven's going, well, if he wants to get paid and
get paid, and that's probably a little bit of a
standoff because there's a way these things work and it's not,
at least it shouldn't be. I'm gonna go have a
meeting at Jerry's. Well, he's having a mcgriddle. That's not
the way we should be doing this. And that's why
(05:02):
I think, uh, this will get done at the end
of August. And it's fine. I'm bored with it, honestly. Yeah,
And this is where I'm in go mode on a
couple other things. If they're trying to make a point
of signing guys early, and they gave Jake Versus a
pretty nice little contract for him and for the team,
I think, pretty team friendly, pretty good for everyone. Yeah, Hey,
that's pretty good business if we can do that right now,
(05:23):
because we're obsessed with the Micah thing. Then Deron Bland.
Let's go Tyler Smith, let's go Brandon Aubrey, let's do it.
Let's do it right now.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I thought that's one of the reasons they got the
deal done, you know, with Ferguson, was because I think
they're going to start removing anybody who might need that
franchise tag because they're getting they need to keep it available.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Man.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
The other way another person is George Pickens. They may
want that for George Pickens, which they're like, all right,
we want to keep him one more year.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Interesting. You know that it's bad business, though, to franchise quarterback,
pass rushers and wide receivers. You franchise running backs, you
franchise kicker. You know, you franchise guys that the top
of their position group doesn't make a bunch of money.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Except for Pickens. I like it because he's such a
wild card. Having him on a one year deal where
he's got a lot to play for is good. Maybe
you could do that for two years in a row. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah, everything's rosy right now with George Pickens. Will have
a very good idea, depending on how the season goes well,
I have a very good idea if he's a guy
you want around or not.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
All right?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Coming up next, the big story of the day is
the tsunami, so we will discuss that in just over
three minutes.
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