September 2, 2025 • 13 mins
"Did Micah Parsons really try to negotiate his own contract… or was he set up by Jerry Jones?"In this explosive episode of The Ben and Skin Show, hosts Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray dive deep into the ESPN bombshell report that’s shaking up Cowboys Nation. The crew unpacks the tangled web of miscommunication, ego, and power plays surrounding Micah Parsons’ shocking trade to Green Bay.From Jerry Jones allegedly steering a “leadership meeting” into contract talks, to Micah negotiating solo before his agent stepped in, this episode is packed with insider drama and locker room tension. Was Jerry trying to outmaneuver Micah? Did Micah’s podcasting and quirky camp behavior—like showing up without shoes—send the wrong message? And how did the locker room really react?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fellos come on.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Surprise all right, So a big story on ESPN this
morning with a ton of riders, including investigative journalists at
don Van not A junior and Seth Wickersham thrown into this.
(00:27):
A source coast to Jerry Jones says it was Parsons
who asked for the meeting on March eighteenth, and that
Jerry always understood the subject would be Micah's contract. A
source coase to Parsons said this is absolutely not true,
and that Jones called Parsons in for a leadership meeting
only to steer the conversation toward contract talks. After Micah
left his office, Jerry believed an agreement was done. Later
(00:48):
the same day, Parsons called Stephen Jones in an attempt
to get more money out of the deal, A team
source told ESPN. So Parsons quote, Parsons called Steven and
asked can we do this? Can we change the numbers
and up the guarantee? He started negotiating. He asked for
several different elements and increases. This became a negotiation that
Micah was in charge of. Steven consulted with Jerry and
(01:12):
agreed to sweeten the terms and then they could not
agree on the length of it because apparently and then
that's when Micah also said, Okay, I'm gonna hollert my
agent and see this is good. That's all this is
being posed in this article.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
So this is such a weird negotiation and it's a
perfect storm of bad on all sides. Right, it's just
awful by everybody involved. But I do believe that Micah
may have engaged them and let's have and maybe they
coerced him into it, like, hey, real man can negotiate
his own contract. That's what we always did the playmaker.
Whatever it may have been, they end up being in
(01:49):
a conversation about the contract. I believe that, and I
think once the Jones Is realized he was going to
negotiate this deal, they were like talking to a murder
suspect without there, and they were going to take advantage
of him not having representation there. And when he came
back and asked for even more and they gave him more,
that was even put their meat hooks in even further.
(02:10):
And you know, I don't know what Micah thought was happening.
I don't know if he always intended to negotiate with them,
and then bring his agent in, but his agent eventually
is like, dude, what are you doing.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I'm you hire me for a reason. I can go
get you more money than this.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
But once that negotiation happened, it became really personal to
Jerry Jones that he wanted to keep negotiating, even though
he rightfully has the right to do that with an agent.
But I think it became so deeply personal at that
moment that this there was no fixing this.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yeah, I think you're probably right. Another thing I read
over the weekend was that which I had never read this.
It was positioned that Micah is so smart and calculated
that he knew exactly what he was doing every step
of the way.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Maybe I could see my could be in a calculator, dude,
But when we start talking about being a great lawyer, yeah,
I'm sorry, no, right.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
But I'm interested.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
If this version of the story is true, then Micah
took it upon himself to call back and start talking
about guaranteed money and other mechanisms in the contract before
pulling in his agent.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, okay. So, although Jerry said the team began discussing
the idea of Parson's trade in the spring a Cowboys
team source said that is not true. They did not
explore trade talks with Micah before the draft.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
The article goes on to talk about how Micah was
bothered by the little comments from Stephen and Jerry, one
of them being that Jerry said the pay Micah chance
at camp didn't bother him, and it was louder when
it was ceedee lamb. But it didn't even happen last
year because Ceed wasn't even there and it wasn't that
big of a deal. It wasn't as big of a
deal as this was. And Steven's comment, we want to
(03:43):
pay Micah, but Micah's got to want to get paid
bothered Micah too. And that's where Micah's good attitude when
he showed up started to dip into kind of being
a negative force, says Amid the pettiness and hurt feelings.
Parsons continue to show up because Mogoletta, his agent, doesn't
see the value and play is getting fined. He advised
him to be present, while also citing the back Titanus
(04:05):
as the reason he wasn't practicing. Parsons had an MRI
and his back in late August that came back clean.
According to head coach Brian Schottenheimer. He was cleared by
Cowboys doctors to practice. That's the number one element out
of all this that pisses me off is that Brian
Schottenheimer did nothing wrong and should not have to deal
with this.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
It no way other NFL coach would have to deal
with this.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Remember chan Gaily had to deal with Michael Urban stabbing
Everett Mchiver.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
In the next sure various news that Micah might have
to get an epidural before he can play on Sunday.
And I even saw one story saying he's gonna have
to get it at like several epidurals.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Is that is that real?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
To me, they I mean, it makes a lot of
sense to say they've got to treat a back thing
just so it doesn't look completely like he's completely clean.
I need to worry about conditioning and how much he
can actually play and learn a new defense. I think
that's where it's at. Oh, yeah, he's got a back thing,
that's fine.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
There's also a lot of talk about how ma which
he freelances on defense.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, hold on, yeah, okay, So this article says, as
he continued to participate in walk throughs and meetings. He
also exhibited strange behavior, including not wearing his practice jersey
or one day wearing it around his neck and then
coming to practice without shoes. Okay, but it's like I
get it.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
But he's also like not gonna practice. So does it
matter if he's wearing shoes. But he's sending a message.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
He's sending a message that his contract situation is more
important than the team.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yes, it says.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
His behavior during camp rubbed many in the building, including
in the locker room, the wrong way, with one team
source saying his energy was deflating. A team source also
noted that Parsons was staying engaged in meetings and was
doing his own to a days lifting and running. He
was going to play week one if he could have.
Now we come back, DAK and CD have spoken on this.
(05:53):
Oh I thought they were giving two different tones. Okay,
DAK and CD not on the same page.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
We've seen this before. Oh all right, this is just
three minutes away.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Do not miss that Ben and Skin show ninety seven
point one.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
The Eagle.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Hey, let's give away that ticket pack for Addison october Fest.
Will be giving them away all week September eighteenth through
twenty first, always a lot of fun. The first person
using the iHeart app, use the talkback feature, leave your name,
your phone number, your email address, and can tell us
which movie from twenty years ago did we talk about
in the three o'clock hour Classic comedy. We played a
(06:28):
bunch of clips from it, told stories if you know
what that classic movie was from twenty years ago we
talked about in the three o'clock hour, and you're the
first person, You'll win these tickets. All right, let's get
it back over to kt as we talk about the
Micah Parsons situation.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
So from the article on ESPN this morning that dropped
multiple sources, this feels like players or coaches, but maybe not.
Multiple sources said Micah was not the most diligent in
the weight room or in getting treatment, though others considered
him a hard worker who improved his communication skills over
the years. They did speak on the podcast that he did.
The front office and coaches did not have a major
(07:02):
problem with it. Teammate Malie Cooker made his issues known
publicly on another podcast. He complained about Micah being doing
a weekly podcast. I thought it's a lott as one
team source put it, Parsons was known to be critical,
sometimes out of passion for the game, but coaches would
urge him to consider that you can't call guys out
who don't have your ability, and you need to learn
how to lead and bring others along with you. And
(07:25):
that part was apparently a process for Micah because you
know what, he's not a broadcaster.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
He's just talking.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yeah, that's the danger of that if you're just talking
and there's no thought about the strategy of what you're saying,
and you're I mean, yeah, there's thoughts that every player
has that are best kept inside your brain, Like it
could ruin relationships or hurt you know, the culture of
the locker room if you're just spilling every thought you
have out there like he does. Are are you guys
(07:54):
happened to follow the Michael Porter junior situation?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Ye jesus.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
I mean he's saying razy stuff on live streams and
podcasts and you never heard from him before he got
traded to Brooklyn.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, he's just going scorched to earth now.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah, I mean there's reason for these athletes to protect
their investment. When you're done playing, go say whatever you
want to say yeah, but you could your mouth could
cost you your livelihood.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Multiple team sources believe Micah was sincere in his stated
desire to retire a cowboy, noting that he recently built
a home here which he's gonna be living in.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
He says, so.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Two days before he became a packer, his Micah's agent
emailed Jerry. The note acknowledge that a lot of things
had been said in the media, there's miscommunications along the way,
but despite it all, Parsons was still willing to do
a deal that would keep him in Dallas. The letter
said parsons representatives were willing to come to Dallas, jump
on a video call, whatever it took to hammer something out.
(08:52):
Jerry Jones responded in the message, saying that the Cowboys
were prepping a trade and if Parsons wanted to play
in Dallas in twenty twenty five, he would have to
do so on a fifth year option and then be
a free agent in twenty twenty six, where they would
consider franchise tagging in. So it was all in Jerry's hands.
He decided to no. Yeah, and he says it was
(09:13):
unanimous with everyone, including coaches, And then you know, leadership
council on the team, whoever's on the.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Problem with that was they had for sure offered over
forty million per year to a guy, and they wanted
him for five years, right, yes, so yeah, so think
about that.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
We are.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Unanimous that we wanted to all pay him over forty
per year for five years. We are all unanimously against
paying him any more than forty million. I mean, it's like,
how do you how is everybody on board for forty
million a year plus?
Speaker 4 (09:48):
But it's a little too high. Now we're unanimously against this,
and I think, you know, there's so many issues with this.
I think in theory, the idea of not giving Parsons
the big deal makes a lot of sense. And if
you wanted to say, well they should have kept Parsons
and CD and trade whatever you want to say, but
you can't give these three guys that much money.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
But based on what Slater had out.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
There a month ago Jane Slater in a film network
Jane Slater NFL Network, and based on what Michael Silver
wrote over the weekend, I do think that they had talked.
I mean, I know this article says different. I do
think they had talks about not signing Micah and Jerry
over wrote it, and then they thought they had the
deal done, and then Jerry got upset, and so then
they ended up making a deal out of anger now
(10:29):
when they could have gotten a better deal had they
done it before the draft said.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Things accelerated from there.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
The Packers, when given permission to speak to Mogoletta, got
the contract done very quickly. Green Bay had parameters of
a trade hammered out that matched Dallas's terms. Two first
round picks and a veteran defensive tackle. That's it.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
They didn't asked for three. We didn't ask for three
match their terms.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
So it also says had the deal fallen apart, at
least three other teams were interested, and the Cowboys would
not trade him within the division. One team told ESPN
it wasn't interested because it felt the price was too
high for a player who might turn out to be
a headache.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
When doing their homework on Parsons, the Packers reached out
to people that had worked with him, played with him,
or coached him in college and in Dallas, including their
starting left tackle Rashid Walker, who played with him at
Penn State.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Okay, they reach out to your guy McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Leagu's sources say one of the sources of the Packers
reached out to was Mike McCarthy. Mike had said he
was devastated when macarthy was fired. So McCarthy's like, oh, yeah,
I'll stick it to Jerry. Yeah, the good at Green Bay.
Who cares so good? Here's your quarterback. Does he sound
like a guy who gives a damn about this trade?
Speaker 6 (11:42):
I can't say I was completely surprised, but I did.
I definitely didn't think he was going to get traded,
I'll say that, but just with the way that their
negotiations went down obviously, I mean, how y'allre asking me questions?
It seemed like it got personal on their ends. So
like that's why I wasn't surprised.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
H yeah, he's not gonna say much. Clearly, that's pretty
right down the middle.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Marshawneeland said when he found out out the trade, he
dropped his phone. I was like, damn it. Overshown tweeted out,
like what's going on? Like the defensive guys I think
are pretty but hurt about it. Here's Ceedee Lamb, Ceedee
Lamb on the leadership Council. I would love to know
because I think he would have stood up million Why
would we do that.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
He's unblockable, He's unstoppable, So it's gonna be weird.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
He's gonna be conflicting, and.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
I hope he is not in a backfield in two seconds,
dead ass. Honestly, it sucked a lot of people on
the team. I mean, we're really close with Micah, and
he was really good with a lot of people. You
know what I'm saying. He can relate to a lot
of people. He'd love to compete, him as a competitor,
him as a player, him as a brother, him as
a friend, and overall, like I said, bro, he would
be missed for sure by me and a couple of
(12:49):
other guys that I can name at the top of
my head. But I mean, obviously I'd rather not.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
But old heads out on him.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
The young guys loved him because I've got dak Malie
Hooker and DeMarcus Lawrence right now, the older guys, and
I got the younger guys all going this sucks.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
What the hell?
Speaker 6 (13:06):
Right?
Speaker 4 (13:07):
And by the way, Sam William's gonna be good didn't
have a good preseason. That disappoints me because he was
so good before.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
They didn't play anybody in the preseason. I don't think
anyone knows what the hell is gonna happen. That's exciting,
all right, thank you Kevin. There it is, cussing the cowboys,
all right. Coming up next, it's the weekly Weekday Update,
some new sex doll laws and Texas that everyone listening,
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Speaker 1 (13:35):
That's coming up next.
Fellos come on.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Surprise all right, So a big story on ESPN this
morning with a ton of riders, including investigative journalists at
don Van not A junior and Seth Wickersham thrown into this.
(00:27):
A source coast to Jerry Jones says it was Parsons
who asked for the meeting on March eighteenth, and that
Jerry always understood the subject would be Micah's contract. A
source coase to Parsons said this is absolutely not true,
and that Jones called Parsons in for a leadership meeting
only to steer the conversation toward contract talks. After Micah
left his office, Jerry believed an agreement was done. Later
(00:48):
the same day, Parsons called Stephen Jones in an attempt
to get more money out of the deal, A team
source told ESPN. So Parsons quote, Parsons called Steven and
asked can we do this? Can we change the numbers
and up the guarantee? He started negotiating. He asked for
several different elements and increases. This became a negotiation that
Micah was in charge of. Steven consulted with Jerry and
(01:12):
agreed to sweeten the terms and then they could not
agree on the length of it because apparently and then
that's when Micah also said, Okay, I'm gonna hollert my
agent and see this is good. That's all this is
being posed in this article.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
So this is such a weird negotiation and it's a
perfect storm of bad on all sides. Right, it's just
awful by everybody involved. But I do believe that Micah
may have engaged them and let's have and maybe they
coerced him into it, like, hey, real man can negotiate
his own contract. That's what we always did the playmaker.
Whatever it may have been, they end up being in
(01:49):
a conversation about the contract. I believe that, and I
think once the Jones Is realized he was going to
negotiate this deal, they were like talking to a murder
suspect without there, and they were going to take advantage
of him not having representation there. And when he came
back and asked for even more and they gave him more,
that was even put their meat hooks in even further.
(02:10):
And you know, I don't know what Micah thought was happening.
I don't know if he always intended to negotiate with them,
and then bring his agent in, but his agent eventually
is like, dude, what are you doing.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I'm you hire me for a reason. I can go
get you more money than this.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
But once that negotiation happened, it became really personal to
Jerry Jones that he wanted to keep negotiating, even though
he rightfully has the right to do that with an agent.
But I think it became so deeply personal at that
moment that this there was no fixing this.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yeah, I think you're probably right. Another thing I read
over the weekend was that which I had never read this.
It was positioned that Micah is so smart and calculated
that he knew exactly what he was doing every step
of the way.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Maybe I could see my could be in a calculator, dude,
But when we start talking about being a great lawyer, yeah,
I'm sorry, no, right.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
But I'm interested.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
If this version of the story is true, then Micah
took it upon himself to call back and start talking
about guaranteed money and other mechanisms in the contract before
pulling in his agent.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, okay. So, although Jerry said the team began discussing
the idea of Parson's trade in the spring a Cowboys
team source said that is not true. They did not
explore trade talks with Micah before the draft.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
The article goes on to talk about how Micah was
bothered by the little comments from Stephen and Jerry, one
of them being that Jerry said the pay Micah chance
at camp didn't bother him, and it was louder when
it was ceedee lamb. But it didn't even happen last
year because Ceed wasn't even there and it wasn't that
big of a deal. It wasn't as big of a
deal as this was. And Steven's comment, we want to
(03:43):
pay Micah, but Micah's got to want to get paid
bothered Micah too. And that's where Micah's good attitude when
he showed up started to dip into kind of being
a negative force, says Amid the pettiness and hurt feelings.
Parsons continue to show up because Mogoletta, his agent, doesn't
see the value and play is getting fined. He advised
him to be present, while also citing the back Titanus
(04:05):
as the reason he wasn't practicing. Parsons had an MRI
and his back in late August that came back clean.
According to head coach Brian Schottenheimer. He was cleared by
Cowboys doctors to practice. That's the number one element out
of all this that pisses me off is that Brian
Schottenheimer did nothing wrong and should not have to deal
with this.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
It no way other NFL coach would have to deal
with this.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Remember chan Gaily had to deal with Michael Urban stabbing
Everett Mchiver.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
In the next sure various news that Micah might have
to get an epidural before he can play on Sunday.
And I even saw one story saying he's gonna have
to get it at like several epidurals.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Is that is that real?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
To me, they I mean, it makes a lot of
sense to say they've got to treat a back thing
just so it doesn't look completely like he's completely clean.
I need to worry about conditioning and how much he
can actually play and learn a new defense. I think
that's where it's at. Oh, yeah, he's got a back thing,
that's fine.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
There's also a lot of talk about how ma which
he freelances on defense.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, hold on, yeah, okay, So this article says, as
he continued to participate in walk throughs and meetings. He
also exhibited strange behavior, including not wearing his practice jersey
or one day wearing it around his neck and then
coming to practice without shoes. Okay, but it's like I
get it.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
But he's also like not gonna practice. So does it
matter if he's wearing shoes. But he's sending a message.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
He's sending a message that his contract situation is more
important than the team.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yes, it says.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
His behavior during camp rubbed many in the building, including
in the locker room, the wrong way, with one team
source saying his energy was deflating. A team source also
noted that Parsons was staying engaged in meetings and was
doing his own to a days lifting and running. He
was going to play week one if he could have.
Now we come back, DAK and CD have spoken on this.
(05:53):
Oh I thought they were giving two different tones. Okay,
DAK and CD not on the same page.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
We've seen this before. Oh all right, this is just
three minutes away.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Do not miss that Ben and Skin show ninety seven
point one.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
The Eagle.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Hey, let's give away that ticket pack for Addison october Fest.
Will be giving them away all week September eighteenth through
twenty first, always a lot of fun. The first person
using the iHeart app, use the talkback feature, leave your name,
your phone number, your email address, and can tell us
which movie from twenty years ago did we talk about
in the three o'clock hour Classic comedy. We played a
(06:28):
bunch of clips from it, told stories if you know
what that classic movie was from twenty years ago we
talked about in the three o'clock hour, and you're the
first person, You'll win these tickets. All right, let's get
it back over to kt as we talk about the
Micah Parsons situation.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
So from the article on ESPN this morning that dropped
multiple sources, this feels like players or coaches, but maybe not.
Multiple sources said Micah was not the most diligent in
the weight room or in getting treatment, though others considered
him a hard worker who improved his communication skills over
the years. They did speak on the podcast that he did.
The front office and coaches did not have a major
(07:02):
problem with it. Teammate Malie Cooker made his issues known
publicly on another podcast. He complained about Micah being doing
a weekly podcast. I thought it's a lott as one
team source put it, Parsons was known to be critical,
sometimes out of passion for the game, but coaches would
urge him to consider that you can't call guys out
who don't have your ability, and you need to learn
how to lead and bring others along with you. And
(07:25):
that part was apparently a process for Micah because you
know what, he's not a broadcaster.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
He's just talking.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yeah, that's the danger of that if you're just talking
and there's no thought about the strategy of what you're saying,
and you're I mean, yeah, there's thoughts that every player
has that are best kept inside your brain, Like it
could ruin relationships or hurt you know, the culture of
the locker room if you're just spilling every thought you
have out there like he does. Are are you guys
(07:54):
happened to follow the Michael Porter junior situation?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Ye jesus.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
I mean he's saying razy stuff on live streams and
podcasts and you never heard from him before he got
traded to Brooklyn.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, he's just going scorched to earth now.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah, I mean there's reason for these athletes to protect
their investment. When you're done playing, go say whatever you
want to say yeah, but you could your mouth could
cost you your livelihood.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Multiple team sources believe Micah was sincere in his stated
desire to retire a cowboy, noting that he recently built
a home here which he's gonna be living in.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
He says, so.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Two days before he became a packer, his Micah's agent
emailed Jerry. The note acknowledge that a lot of things
had been said in the media, there's miscommunications along the way,
but despite it all, Parsons was still willing to do
a deal that would keep him in Dallas. The letter
said parsons representatives were willing to come to Dallas, jump
on a video call, whatever it took to hammer something out.
(08:52):
Jerry Jones responded in the message, saying that the Cowboys
were prepping a trade and if Parsons wanted to play
in Dallas in twenty twenty five, he would have to
do so on a fifth year option and then be
a free agent in twenty twenty six, where they would
consider franchise tagging in. So it was all in Jerry's hands.
He decided to no. Yeah, and he says it was
(09:13):
unanimous with everyone, including coaches, And then you know, leadership
council on the team, whoever's on the.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Problem with that was they had for sure offered over
forty million per year to a guy, and they wanted
him for five years, right, yes, so yeah, so think
about that.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
We are.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Unanimous that we wanted to all pay him over forty
per year for five years. We are all unanimously against
paying him any more than forty million. I mean, it's like,
how do you how is everybody on board for forty
million a year plus?
Speaker 4 (09:48):
But it's a little too high. Now we're unanimously against this,
and I think, you know, there's so many issues with this.
I think in theory, the idea of not giving Parsons
the big deal makes a lot of sense. And if
you wanted to say, well they should have kept Parsons
and CD and trade whatever you want to say, but
you can't give these three guys that much money.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
But based on what Slater had out.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
There a month ago Jane Slater in a film network
Jane Slater NFL Network, and based on what Michael Silver
wrote over the weekend, I do think that they had talked.
I mean, I know this article says different. I do
think they had talks about not signing Micah and Jerry
over wrote it, and then they thought they had the
deal done, and then Jerry got upset, and so then
they ended up making a deal out of anger now
(10:29):
when they could have gotten a better deal had they
done it before the draft said.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Things accelerated from there.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
The Packers, when given permission to speak to Mogoletta, got
the contract done very quickly. Green Bay had parameters of
a trade hammered out that matched Dallas's terms. Two first
round picks and a veteran defensive tackle. That's it.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
They didn't asked for three. We didn't ask for three
match their terms.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
So it also says had the deal fallen apart, at
least three other teams were interested, and the Cowboys would
not trade him within the division. One team told ESPN
it wasn't interested because it felt the price was too
high for a player who might turn out to be
a headache.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
When doing their homework on Parsons, the Packers reached out
to people that had worked with him, played with him,
or coached him in college and in Dallas, including their
starting left tackle Rashid Walker, who played with him at
Penn State.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Okay, they reach out to your guy McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Leagu's sources say one of the sources of the Packers
reached out to was Mike McCarthy. Mike had said he
was devastated when macarthy was fired. So McCarthy's like, oh, yeah,
I'll stick it to Jerry. Yeah, the good at Green Bay.
Who cares so good? Here's your quarterback. Does he sound
like a guy who gives a damn about this trade?
Speaker 6 (11:42):
I can't say I was completely surprised, but I did.
I definitely didn't think he was going to get traded,
I'll say that, but just with the way that their
negotiations went down obviously, I mean, how y'allre asking me questions?
It seemed like it got personal on their ends. So
like that's why I wasn't surprised.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
H yeah, he's not gonna say much. Clearly, that's pretty
right down the middle.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Marshawneeland said when he found out out the trade, he
dropped his phone. I was like, damn it. Overshown tweeted out,
like what's going on? Like the defensive guys I think
are pretty but hurt about it. Here's Ceedee Lamb, Ceedee
Lamb on the leadership Council. I would love to know
because I think he would have stood up million Why
would we do that.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
He's unblockable, He's unstoppable, So it's gonna be weird.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
He's gonna be conflicting, and.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
I hope he is not in a backfield in two seconds,
dead ass. Honestly, it sucked a lot of people on
the team. I mean, we're really close with Micah, and
he was really good with a lot of people. You
know what I'm saying. He can relate to a lot
of people. He'd love to compete, him as a competitor,
him as a player, him as a brother, him as
a friend, and overall, like I said, bro, he would
be missed for sure by me and a couple of
(12:49):
other guys that I can name at the top of
my head. But I mean, obviously I'd rather not.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
But old heads out on him.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
The young guys loved him because I've got dak Malie
Hooker and DeMarcus Lawrence right now, the older guys, and
I got the younger guys all going this sucks.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
What the hell?
Speaker 6 (13:06):
Right?
Speaker 4 (13:07):
And by the way, Sam William's gonna be good didn't
have a good preseason. That disappoints me because he was
so good before.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
They didn't play anybody in the preseason. I don't think
anyone knows what the hell is gonna happen. That's exciting,
all right, thank you Kevin. There it is, cussing the cowboys,
all right. Coming up next, it's the weekly Weekday Update,
some new sex doll laws and Texas that everyone listening,
especially one person on the show, needs to listen closely
to these new laws.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
That's coming up next.
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