July 15, 2025 • 6 mins
What if the Lakers are quietly planning a rebuild around Luka Dončić? In this absolutely unmissable episode of The Ben and Skin Show, Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray—dive headfirst into the swirling NBA rumor mill with a mix of sharp insight, hilarious speculation, and the kind of off-the-wall tangents that only this show can deliver.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
At some point today we are giving away Pantera tickets.
They are coming to Del Saki's in September. We got
tickets and we're going to hook you up. Now, you
have to have the iHeart app, so make sure you
have it downloaded. Learn that talkback feature. That's what that's
how we use it. We'll ask you a question about
the show. It's happening some point during the show. Don't
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(00:20):
In Skin show and have the iHeart app. But right
now it's time for this track.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Another edition of things is.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Tracking all right, Thank you America. I am tracking lots
of things right now. And I wanted to talk about
tickets for a certain event, but my phone keeps blowing
up with like are we getting Lebron? Is this Lebron
thing happening?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
And so I just wanted it.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
We talked about it yesterday and I just wanted to
circle back on this. There was a report last night
from a guy that I believe is pretty locked in,
like he's legit and he says the Lakers do not
because I've also read this. This was part of the
Ramona Shelbourne thing, and this is if you look at
(01:09):
go if you can go online and you can pull
up contracts for NBA teams and see how long the
contracts are, and sometimes you can just look at it
and go, oh, look all their contracts in in twenty five,
twenty six. They must be up to something, right, So
Dan woke, he's so woke. He's reporting that the Lakers
(01:30):
do not want to take back any contracts that go
beyond the twenty five to twenty six season.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Woke bomb.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
And he says, currently only the Clippers and the Heat
can send out fifty million dollars worth of expiring deals. Now,
an expiring deal that means that the contract will end
at the end of next season. So if the Lakers
were to trade Lebron, they don't even want players. They
just want to blank canvas. They want expiring contracts, spend
a year being terrible, and then rebuild around Luca. And
(02:01):
that is why Ben that they did not offer Lebron
an extension. This you know, when they went in there
and they had their meeting, they didn't even talk to Lebron.
They didn't make any plans with Lebron. They're like, yeah,
Lebron's contract ins at the end of next season. That's
what we want because that's how we're going to build
our future. Our future will be built around cap space
(02:22):
and Luca. You know, they want to keep Austin Reeves
because of his age. There's a few other guys that
kind of you know, and even the deal they did
with DeAndre Ayton is like a two year deal with
a player option. He'll likely opt out of that deal.
So again, they want to keep their their cap sheet clean.
So if we're sending them PJ. Washington, who we're going
(02:45):
to extend, and Daniel Gafford and Klay Thompson and all
these guys, then the Lakers are locked into that team
that we send them.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Although I think.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I agree that that would not that would not make
sense based on that report. But you know, having PJ
and GAFFERD are guys that he wanted, I think, and targeted,
that you know, are a good fit, that are young players,
and so maybe they would look at those guys differently.
They might because you know, the chances of getting those
same types of players. Like I hope to god the
(03:17):
Mavericks aren't considering this. I hope this isn't in the works,
but those are in GAFFERD and PJ. Those are players
that were specifically plucked to fit with Luca, and he
seemed to love playing with him here and yeah, I
think that makes sense. Here's what I would say. Who
is the Lakers second star Austin Reeves? I mean, he's
a good player. He got destroyed in the playoffs because
(03:38):
he couldn't hit a shot, but he's a really good
player and he's on a good contract.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I don't have another name for you, dude, they don't
have one.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
They're second star is Lebron. So if they are if
they are getting rid of Lebron, then they're making plans.
Who is the other star that we pair with Luca?
That's what they're so, who is the star that's available
then the Greek freak? Or who's the who's the star
that aligns that is available? Then could be the Greek freak,
(04:05):
could be other guy. You know, It's like these sorts
of things. Mitchell the Yeah, these are I I really
think that if they were going to change that stance
that Ben's talking about, I think it would be for
a guy like Donovan Mitchell or Darius Garland, someone that's
already made All Star teams right somewhat like I love PJ.
Washington and Gafford here, but there are role players. They're
(04:27):
great role players, but they're role players.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Well, where is more coming out on this because nothing's
been like super substantiated Anyway.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Here's where it's coming from. It's coming from the fact
that everybody. Remember when we were talking about the Summer
League last week and I called it a convention, Like
I was getting text messages from people that are in
Vegas working.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, but where these who tweeting out? Who's writing the
articles about this? Oh?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
It's really just chatter, okay, Like like so everyone every
like it's kind of like you know the Super Bowl
week when everyone in the busines is in one place
they all talk, Right, That's what's going on in Vegas
right now. Like I had a guy text to me
last night, go, interesting that Lively's not here.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
I'm just saying, I want to see a tweet from
a known NBA reporter, like very well known NBA reporter
that's even talking about Lebron that much and you're not
seeing that much about him getting traded.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Oh, there's a lot of it. So this guy that said,
interesting that Lively's not here?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
What is he? What is he? Doing with all his suspicion.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Everyone there is jumping to wild conclusion. What would the
wild conclusion be about that? I think it's a reach.
But it's like, Okay, does he know something and that's
why he's not here hobnobbing with his teammates. Okay, so
like he knows that he would be a part of
a deal or.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Has he talked to say?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
But I would also say this, just go look at
the money, like you got to get to fifty two
million dollars. So if they're trading a center, Gafford makes
more than Lively. Gafford's the one who's going out the door,
Like the Lakers don't want Klay Thompson even if he
is hooking up with Meg v Stallion, did juice? That's
the other thing. Did you guys see the Meg the
Stallion video that was going around that everyone's reacting to
(06:05):
the butt bongos? The butt bongos?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I got. Clay is killing it out there.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Man. That's the longest video I've ever watched to have
very minimal impact. Yeah, watching her open all though, what
are those called lulub's or what are those dolls? I
watched fifteen minutes of her opening La Boo Boo dolls
in order to see five seconds of the fact that
she was sitting in Clay's lap. Like fingernails they don't, yes, no,
(06:31):
not really but those but those fingernails don't seem practical.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
No, they don't, they really don't.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
It's hard to open pack. Yeah, all right, all right,
there you have it. There's things Skin is tracking. He's
guaranteeing lebron to Dallas. That's amazing, all right. Coming up
next in the Hollywood Shuffle, unreleased music stolen from a
jeep in the nine to one to one call that corresponded,
you've got to hear this.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
It's next
At some point today we are giving away Pantera tickets.
They are coming to Del Saki's in September. We got
tickets and we're going to hook you up. Now, you
have to have the iHeart app, so make sure you
have it downloaded. Learn that talkback feature. That's what that's
how we use it. We'll ask you a question about
the show. It's happening some point during the show. Don't
blow your chance. Listen to every second of the bin
(00:20):
In Skin show and have the iHeart app. But right
now it's time for this track.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Another edition of things is.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Tracking all right, Thank you America. I am tracking lots
of things right now. And I wanted to talk about
tickets for a certain event, but my phone keeps blowing
up with like are we getting Lebron? Is this Lebron
thing happening?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
And so I just wanted it.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
We talked about it yesterday and I just wanted to
circle back on this. There was a report last night
from a guy that I believe is pretty locked in,
like he's legit and he says the Lakers do not
because I've also read this. This was part of the
Ramona Shelbourne thing, and this is if you look at
(01:09):
go if you can go online and you can pull
up contracts for NBA teams and see how long the
contracts are, and sometimes you can just look at it
and go, oh, look all their contracts in in twenty five,
twenty six. They must be up to something, right, So
Dan woke, he's so woke. He's reporting that the Lakers
(01:30):
do not want to take back any contracts that go
beyond the twenty five to twenty six season.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Woke bomb.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
And he says, currently only the Clippers and the Heat
can send out fifty million dollars worth of expiring deals. Now,
an expiring deal that means that the contract will end
at the end of next season. So if the Lakers
were to trade Lebron, they don't even want players. They
just want to blank canvas. They want expiring contracts, spend
a year being terrible, and then rebuild around Luca. And
(02:01):
that is why Ben that they did not offer Lebron
an extension. This you know, when they went in there
and they had their meeting, they didn't even talk to Lebron.
They didn't make any plans with Lebron. They're like, yeah,
Lebron's contract ins at the end of next season. That's
what we want because that's how we're going to build
our future. Our future will be built around cap space
(02:22):
and Luca. You know, they want to keep Austin Reeves
because of his age. There's a few other guys that
kind of you know, and even the deal they did
with DeAndre Ayton is like a two year deal with
a player option. He'll likely opt out of that deal.
So again, they want to keep their their cap sheet clean.
So if we're sending them PJ. Washington, who we're going
(02:45):
to extend, and Daniel Gafford and Klay Thompson and all
these guys, then the Lakers are locked into that team
that we send them.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Although I think.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I agree that that would not that would not make
sense based on that report. But you know, having PJ
and GAFFERD are guys that he wanted, I think, and targeted,
that you know, are a good fit, that are young players,
and so maybe they would look at those guys differently.
They might because you know, the chances of getting those
same types of players. Like I hope to god the
(03:17):
Mavericks aren't considering this. I hope this isn't in the works,
but those are in GAFFERD and PJ. Those are players
that were specifically plucked to fit with Luca, and he
seemed to love playing with him here and yeah, I
think that makes sense. Here's what I would say. Who
is the Lakers second star Austin Reeves? I mean, he's
a good player. He got destroyed in the playoffs because
(03:38):
he couldn't hit a shot, but he's a really good
player and he's on a good contract.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I don't have another name for you, dude, they don't
have one.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
They're second star is Lebron. So if they are if
they are getting rid of Lebron, then they're making plans.
Who is the other star that we pair with Luca?
That's what they're so, who is the star that's available
then the Greek freak? Or who's the who's the star
that aligns that is available? Then could be the Greek freak,
(04:05):
could be other guy. You know, It's like these sorts
of things. Mitchell the Yeah, these are I I really
think that if they were going to change that stance
that Ben's talking about, I think it would be for
a guy like Donovan Mitchell or Darius Garland, someone that's
already made All Star teams right somewhat like I love PJ.
Washington and Gafford here, but there are role players. They're
(04:27):
great role players, but they're role players.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Well, where is more coming out on this because nothing's
been like super substantiated Anyway.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Here's where it's coming from. It's coming from the fact
that everybody. Remember when we were talking about the Summer
League last week and I called it a convention, Like
I was getting text messages from people that are in
Vegas working.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, but where these who tweeting out? Who's writing the
articles about this? Oh?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
It's really just chatter, okay, Like like so everyone every
like it's kind of like you know the Super Bowl
week when everyone in the busines is in one place
they all talk, Right, That's what's going on in Vegas
right now. Like I had a guy text to me
last night, go, interesting that Lively's not here.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
I'm just saying, I want to see a tweet from
a known NBA reporter, like very well known NBA reporter
that's even talking about Lebron that much and you're not
seeing that much about him getting traded.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Oh, there's a lot of it. So this guy that said,
interesting that Lively's not here?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
What is he? What is he? Doing with all his suspicion.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Everyone there is jumping to wild conclusion. What would the
wild conclusion be about that? I think it's a reach.
But it's like, Okay, does he know something and that's
why he's not here hobnobbing with his teammates. Okay, so
like he knows that he would be a part of
a deal or.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Has he talked to say?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
But I would also say this, just go look at
the money, like you got to get to fifty two
million dollars. So if they're trading a center, Gafford makes
more than Lively. Gafford's the one who's going out the door,
Like the Lakers don't want Klay Thompson even if he
is hooking up with Meg v Stallion, did juice? That's
the other thing. Did you guys see the Meg the
Stallion video that was going around that everyone's reacting to
(06:05):
the butt bongos? The butt bongos?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I got. Clay is killing it out there.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Man. That's the longest video I've ever watched to have
very minimal impact. Yeah, watching her open all though, what
are those called lulub's or what are those dolls? I
watched fifteen minutes of her opening La Boo Boo dolls
in order to see five seconds of the fact that
she was sitting in Clay's lap. Like fingernails they don't, yes, no,
(06:31):
not really but those but those fingernails don't seem practical.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
No, they don't, they really don't.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
It's hard to open pack. Yeah, all right, all right,
there you have it. There's things Skin is tracking. He's
guaranteeing lebron to Dallas. That's amazing, all right. Coming up
next in the Hollywood Shuffle, unreleased music stolen from a
jeep in the nine to one to one call that corresponded,
you've got to hear this.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
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