April 29, 2025 • 9 mins
1 year ago Ben had a very awkward confrontation with a Dallas Cowboys player, what will happen when he runs into him again tonight?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
W w evan within I'll show you're gone rule ahead,
except with simper se pursuing it.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Donld out shaw shank through the sewer.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Kid.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Now we're chilling at the Eagle.
Speaker 4 (00:13):
Yeah, we dooing in three your clock on the dot.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Got a habit for my house A gop stades is
Howard's turning to get crag shows that up multiply like
a rabbit.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Tune in, so out, crank it up, beat the habit.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I'm hang out with friend, rocking on the lady all
that long.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Lady Ah, yes, Holond Welcome everybody. It's the world famous
Ben and Skin Show. Glad to have you in the
mix with us on a Tuesday. We got a fun
show planned for you. I know because I was in
the pre show meeting. We'll prove it with everything that
happens on your radio waves here for the next three hours.
Thank you for making us a part of your daily routine. Man,
A couple different things I want to get into right
(00:59):
off the rip. But the first thing I want to
get into is that tonight is the one year anniversary
of Well. I guess it's just that it's Travis Frederick's
annual charity event. It's happening at Top Golf in the colony.
It's for the Blocking Hunger Foundation, but it's the one
year anniversary of me having an incredibly awkward interaction with
(01:19):
Jake ferguson the Cowboys tight End, and I just you know,
back in the day Skin and Eye as well as KT,
towards the back portion of our career, we'd spend a
lot of time in locker rooms getting to know players
and whatnot. And I'll just I'll go back even further.
So we kind of got our start in sportstock radio.
(01:40):
In terms of radio. It wasn't at it like a
hardcore sports stock station. Was at a sports stock station
the Ticket, which has a lot of fun too, so
it's almost like a comedy and sports show. Then we
went over to ESPN. At one point along the way,
we went to the Fan, then to ESPN, then back
to the Fan. But when we're at ESPN, we'd be
prepping for our show and we'd be like reading this
sports page and Randy Gallaway would be like, what are
(02:01):
you doing, Like, we're prepping for the show, and he's like,
that's how you prep for your show? Like yeah, he
goes you read someone else's opinions and then you formulate
your opinions, right, yeah, I mean we're prepping for the show.
What do you mean he goes get your ass in
the locker room, meet the players, develop relationships, and so
that became a big part of how we did our jobs.
And so as time went on, especially when we came
over to the Eagle, we got really far away from sportstock.
(02:24):
We're just having fun, yeah, but when we do sports talk,
we still want to do it at a high level.
And so we just hadn't you know, especially me, I
stopped going to Maverick games, so I was in at
MAVs games in the locker room. I wasn't at Cowboy games.
I wasn't doing postgame Cowboy shows. I wasn't in the
Rangers clubhouse any of those things anymore. But it'd be
cool for us to have a new relationship with a
(02:44):
current Dallas Cowboy. And so I thought, man, this, you know,
if you look around at the Cowboys players, Jake Ferguson
is one of the up and coming players who has
a big, outgoing personality, and so I thought, man, that's
the guy that's the guy to target. And he knows Travis.
He they went to the same college, so there's a
good connection there. He was going to be at Travis's
charity event, blocking Hunger event at Top Golf, and so
(03:07):
we went out there and there Travis was introducing me
to him.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
How to go.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
It just didn't go well, and it was all my fault.
It was like, I don't understand, man, what happened.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I'm just such an awkward person, and I just my
I I was only thinking about how good it would
be if we developed a quick relationship with him and
started doing stuff with him on the radio. And I
may have just said that. I don't know what I
was like. I said something like, Travis, we're just sitting
there having a casual conversation. That's my guy, Ben. He's
a good dude and done it. He vouches for me.
(03:40):
It's super casual. Do you guys remember what I said
or however related to your What do you.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Think I said?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Basically, I don't know exactly what you said, but I
remember that it went poorly and that you telegraphed an
intention of amen. I really just need you to come
on this show and be like our cowboy gap and
I've been stalking you something something to that effect.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Do you remember, Katie Well, I so, are you there
for this?
Speaker 5 (04:06):
My memory is right. I was not on the show
at the time. This would have been the first.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Oh yeah, but okay.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
I do remember this story, and I'm wondering, like we
were always trying to recreate, you know, back then with
more of a talk station type thing, recreate the weekly interview,
you know, and Travis did it better than anyone, and
we had some swings and a missus here and there.
Alex Rios and the Rangers comes to mind.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I thought he was great man. That helicopter story he told.
I think about it every day.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
It was good, it was good. This is the team
sucked and that became a problem. So I think you
were going for that angle. I think right, you might
have approached him with too much of a long term commitment.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
It was like the moment you met him, will you
marry me? That's exactly what it was.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I just I'm just so rusty, so out of practice.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I just went right to it.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Whatever I said, I said something like, man, you're the
person I most wanted to talk to tonight or something like that. Yeah,
something real awkward. I remember looking at over at Trev
Frederick and he.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Was like oh, and he basically told him, you're a stalker.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yes. I basically said I came here to stalk you.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
And he was like, Oh, I've been looking at you
on the internet, and now that you're in front of me,
I'm really excited.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah. I mean it, it just went horrible. It played
out like the eminem song Stan very much.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
And because it's Jake Ferguson who no offense, He's not
Jason Witten, He's not you know there on that level
yet good good player.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I think he's a top thirty tight end in the league.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Up and coming.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
There's still more ceiling to reach there.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Yeah, he's probably not getting a lot of people coming
up to him being like dual weekly or you know hey, Like,
I'm sure he gets interview request here and there, and
he is an interesting guy, like he's kind of got
a good personality and kind of funny and things like that.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I think the worst part was when Ben said if
you don't work out, what about schoon maker?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
That was Problemmaker's personality.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Like, uh, but I just thought about it today because
I don't remember exactly how it went, but it was
so awkward that it never led to him being on
the show, like I totally misplayed it, like he'll be
there tonight, right, yeah, so I'll see him tonight. Oh
that's great, and this is gonna be so awkward for him,
and he talked to Travis about this. I just told
(06:12):
Travis how I misplayed it, and he laughed his ass
off and something I there was some mom oh. I
think Zach Martin was standing there too, and also acknowledge
that I poorly played it because I think I think
what happened was Jake walked off immediately, and then Zach
Martin goes, that didn't go.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
How you wanted it to go. I was like, nah, no,
I'm a little rusty. I don't think I did that right.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Did you try to apologize through text and you like
over apologize?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, and then I overapologize. And that's what I was
just looking for right now, because I think I made
it worse. You know, the idea of leave a message
on someone's answer machine like swingers, and then you're like, oh, no,
I think it cut me off first, let me leave
another message, and it's like we've received both of your messages,
like no, and so I and I think he might
have some technology where he was able to wipe it
all from my phone to where I don't know how
(06:59):
to reach him now I don't have his number in.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
My phone anymore.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
So this is great because Travis is a really funny guy.
And Travis can double down and make this triple awkward
for you.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yes, right, yeah, if he wants to, he can push me.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
He needs to, Yeah, he should anyway, So all nights
the night, the night's the night, and so Katie and
I will be there at top golf of the Colony
for the Blocking Hunger Foundation, and we'll see how awkward
it is.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I think you usually seem just go up, be very casual.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
You gotta act like he means nothing to you.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
You know, No, dude, just go stand next to him
and don't acknowledge it.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I think Christina probably knows best because this is more
similar to according situation than anything else. How can a
guy play this in the right way?
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
It is kind of like Katy said, just like you know, yeah,
maybe not like that I saw you around.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
You If he knows that this bothers you to the
point that you're bringing it up a year later on
the air, like he owns you. Yeah, so like show
he means nothing to you. Man, hope he has a
good year. But whatever, dude, Yeah, dude, why you sun
like a scorned lover.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Walk right up to him and then turn your back
to him.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
I'm asking for something or or you know, maybe he
did you wrong, so maybe you could make some small
talk like I don't know, man, I think cow should
have taken a tight end at twelve.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
He did nothing wrong.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I was a hundred made it awkward by like you
should be on our show and talk words with us.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I like you.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I'm here to see you.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I do like the idea of you going up asking
why they didn't draft a tight end this year.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
That's a right to say.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Man.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I do a sports show, and I want to know
why didn't the Cowboys add to the tight end debt?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Okay, but that is tonight, So we'll have an update
on that situation tomorrow. And we have another developing situation now,
and this is we're going to finish this story about
three minutes, maybe four minutes, So go to ninety seven
won the Eagle on Instagram or the Eagle Dallas on Twitter,
and you can go check out this picture I posted
(09:13):
in the Freak after party too. It's a promo of
our show. We're going to discuss that picture and we'll
do that next
W w evan within I'll show you're gone rule ahead,
except with simper se pursuing it.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Donld out shaw shank through the sewer.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Kid.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Now we're chilling at the Eagle.
Speaker 4 (00:13):
Yeah, we dooing in three your clock on the dot.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Got a habit for my house A gop stades is
Howard's turning to get crag shows that up multiply like
a rabbit.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Tune in, so out, crank it up, beat the habit.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I'm hang out with friend, rocking on the lady all
that long.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Lady Ah, yes, Holond Welcome everybody. It's the world famous
Ben and Skin Show. Glad to have you in the
mix with us on a Tuesday. We got a fun
show planned for you. I know because I was in
the pre show meeting. We'll prove it with everything that
happens on your radio waves here for the next three hours.
Thank you for making us a part of your daily routine. Man,
A couple different things I want to get into right
(00:59):
off the rip. But the first thing I want to
get into is that tonight is the one year anniversary
of Well. I guess it's just that it's Travis Frederick's
annual charity event. It's happening at Top Golf in the colony.
It's for the Blocking Hunger Foundation, but it's the one
year anniversary of me having an incredibly awkward interaction with
(01:19):
Jake ferguson the Cowboys tight End, and I just you know,
back in the day Skin and Eye as well as KT,
towards the back portion of our career, we'd spend a
lot of time in locker rooms getting to know players
and whatnot. And I'll just I'll go back even further.
So we kind of got our start in sportstock radio.
(01:40):
In terms of radio. It wasn't at it like a
hardcore sports stock station. Was at a sports stock station
the Ticket, which has a lot of fun too, so
it's almost like a comedy and sports show. Then we
went over to ESPN. At one point along the way,
we went to the Fan, then to ESPN, then back
to the Fan. But when we're at ESPN, we'd be
prepping for our show and we'd be like reading this
sports page and Randy Gallaway would be like, what are
(02:01):
you doing, Like, we're prepping for the show, and he's like,
that's how you prep for your show? Like yeah, he
goes you read someone else's opinions and then you formulate
your opinions, right, yeah, I mean we're prepping for the show.
What do you mean he goes get your ass in
the locker room, meet the players, develop relationships, and so
that became a big part of how we did our jobs.
And so as time went on, especially when we came
over to the Eagle, we got really far away from sportstock.
(02:24):
We're just having fun, yeah, but when we do sports talk,
we still want to do it at a high level.
And so we just hadn't you know, especially me, I
stopped going to Maverick games, so I was in at
MAVs games in the locker room. I wasn't at Cowboy games.
I wasn't doing postgame Cowboy shows. I wasn't in the
Rangers clubhouse any of those things anymore. But it'd be
cool for us to have a new relationship with a
(02:44):
current Dallas Cowboy. And so I thought, man, this, you know,
if you look around at the Cowboys players, Jake Ferguson
is one of the up and coming players who has
a big, outgoing personality, and so I thought, man, that's
the guy that's the guy to target. And he knows Travis.
He they went to the same college, so there's a
good connection there. He was going to be at Travis's
charity event, blocking Hunger event at Top Golf, and so
(03:07):
we went out there and there Travis was introducing me
to him.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
How to go.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
It just didn't go well, and it was all my fault.
It was like, I don't understand, man, what happened.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I'm just such an awkward person, and I just my
I I was only thinking about how good it would
be if we developed a quick relationship with him and
started doing stuff with him on the radio. And I
may have just said that. I don't know what I
was like. I said something like, Travis, we're just sitting
there having a casual conversation. That's my guy, Ben. He's
a good dude and done it. He vouches for me.
(03:40):
It's super casual. Do you guys remember what I said
or however related to your What do you.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Think I said?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Basically, I don't know exactly what you said, but I
remember that it went poorly and that you telegraphed an
intention of amen. I really just need you to come
on this show and be like our cowboy gap and
I've been stalking you something something to that effect.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Do you remember, Katie Well, I so, are you there
for this?
Speaker 5 (04:06):
My memory is right. I was not on the show
at the time. This would have been the first.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Oh yeah, but okay.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
I do remember this story, and I'm wondering, like we
were always trying to recreate, you know, back then with
more of a talk station type thing, recreate the weekly interview,
you know, and Travis did it better than anyone, and
we had some swings and a missus here and there.
Alex Rios and the Rangers comes to mind.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I thought he was great man. That helicopter story he told.
I think about it every day.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
It was good, it was good. This is the team
sucked and that became a problem. So I think you
were going for that angle. I think right, you might
have approached him with too much of a long term commitment.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
It was like the moment you met him, will you
marry me? That's exactly what it was.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I just I'm just so rusty, so out of practice.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I just went right to it.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Whatever I said, I said something like, man, you're the
person I most wanted to talk to tonight or something like that. Yeah,
something real awkward. I remember looking at over at Trev
Frederick and he.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Was like oh, and he basically told him, you're a stalker.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yes. I basically said I came here to stalk you.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
And he was like, Oh, I've been looking at you
on the internet, and now that you're in front of me,
I'm really excited.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah. I mean it, it just went horrible. It played
out like the eminem song Stan very much.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
And because it's Jake Ferguson who no offense, He's not
Jason Witten, He's not you know there on that level
yet good good player.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I think he's a top thirty tight end in the league.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Up and coming.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
There's still more ceiling to reach there.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Yeah, he's probably not getting a lot of people coming
up to him being like dual weekly or you know hey, Like,
I'm sure he gets interview request here and there, and
he is an interesting guy, like he's kind of got
a good personality and kind of funny and things like that.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I think the worst part was when Ben said if
you don't work out, what about schoon maker?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
That was Problemmaker's personality.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Like, uh, but I just thought about it today because
I don't remember exactly how it went, but it was
so awkward that it never led to him being on
the show, like I totally misplayed it, like he'll be
there tonight, right, yeah, so I'll see him tonight. Oh
that's great, and this is gonna be so awkward for him,
and he talked to Travis about this. I just told
(06:12):
Travis how I misplayed it, and he laughed his ass
off and something I there was some mom oh. I
think Zach Martin was standing there too, and also acknowledge
that I poorly played it because I think I think
what happened was Jake walked off immediately, and then Zach
Martin goes, that didn't go.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
How you wanted it to go. I was like, nah, no,
I'm a little rusty. I don't think I did that right.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Did you try to apologize through text and you like
over apologize?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, and then I overapologize. And that's what I was
just looking for right now, because I think I made
it worse. You know, the idea of leave a message
on someone's answer machine like swingers, and then you're like, oh, no,
I think it cut me off first, let me leave
another message, and it's like we've received both of your messages,
like no, and so I and I think he might
have some technology where he was able to wipe it
all from my phone to where I don't know how
(06:59):
to reach him now I don't have his number in.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
My phone anymore.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
So this is great because Travis is a really funny guy.
And Travis can double down and make this triple awkward
for you.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yes, right, yeah, if he wants to, he can push me.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
He needs to, Yeah, he should anyway, So all nights
the night, the night's the night, and so Katie and
I will be there at top golf of the Colony
for the Blocking Hunger Foundation, and we'll see how awkward
it is.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I think you usually seem just go up, be very casual.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
You gotta act like he means nothing to you.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
You know, No, dude, just go stand next to him
and don't acknowledge it.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I think Christina probably knows best because this is more
similar to according situation than anything else. How can a
guy play this in the right way?
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
It is kind of like Katy said, just like you know, yeah,
maybe not like that I saw you around.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
You If he knows that this bothers you to the
point that you're bringing it up a year later on
the air, like he owns you. Yeah, so like show
he means nothing to you. Man, hope he has a
good year. But whatever, dude, Yeah, dude, why you sun
like a scorned lover.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Walk right up to him and then turn your back
to him.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
I'm asking for something or or you know, maybe he
did you wrong, so maybe you could make some small
talk like I don't know, man, I think cow should
have taken a tight end at twelve.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
He did nothing wrong.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I was a hundred made it awkward by like you
should be on our show and talk words with us.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I like you.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I'm here to see you.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I do like the idea of you going up asking
why they didn't draft a tight end this year.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
That's a right to say.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Man.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I do a sports show, and I want to know
why didn't the Cowboys add to the tight end debt?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Okay, but that is tonight, So we'll have an update
on that situation tomorrow. And we have another developing situation now,
and this is we're going to finish this story about
three minutes, maybe four minutes, So go to ninety seven
won the Eagle on Instagram or the Eagle Dallas on Twitter,
and you can go check out this picture I posted
(09:13):
in the Freak after party too. It's a promo of
our show. We're going to discuss that picture and we'll
do that next
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