July 31, 2025 • 5 mins
“Can a coach who sings the Pointer Sisters fix the most penalized team in the NFL?”That’s the question at the heart of this electric episode of The Ben and Skin Show, where hosts Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray dive into the wild world of Cowboys training camp—and the even wilder personality of new head coach Brian Schottenheimer.From Slow Hand on the practice playlist to players running gassers like it’s high school, this episode captures the bizarre blend of fun and fire that’s defining the Cowboys’ new vibe. Is Schotty just a lovable goofball, or is he the disciplinarian Dallas desperately needs?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Around the sports KTD tweets as all the sports.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Yeah, all right, so we've talked a little bit about
the Pointer Sisters big week because Jerry said that's the
song that he would play on the practice playlist, Slow
Hand by the Pointer Sisters. So I guess Jerry requested
that that get played. So here's Shoddy's press conference yesterday.
You're going about forty five seconds and maybe you'll hear
some of the media. The lots are made about the
(00:29):
energy at practice, and certainly the loud music supports that.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
But how does slow Hand by the Pointer into that?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Well, if you notice where I put it, it was
very well thought out, very calculated, and it was during
a special team's walk through. I did get some looks
by the guys and I just kind of did the
you know, it wasn't my request, And of course Pointer Sisters.
Maybe I like the faster paced pointersis. I'm gonna be honest, like,
I'm so excited. I like that one, you know, and
(00:57):
I just can't that's my probably favorite Pointer Sister song.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
But it was solid, solid Joyce.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Someone from very high up, extremely high, very high up.
But it was played at the right time because of
special teams walk through.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
All right.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
So it's weird because these are all questions that had
never been asked to Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
None of this nonsense.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Mike McCarthy will smash a watermelon, which I would argue
might be more non sitsical than your head coach singing
the Pointer Sister song. But like it's weird Mojo moment.
It's a little it's just a little different vibe.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Does he drill a hole in the watermelon before he
smashes it?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Because this everybody loves shoddy, there's this amazing rapport And
McCarthy was like, no nonsense and was defensive.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
And McCarthy's just open book.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Is he's a little more close to the vest and shot,
he's why to ask me anything.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I want my guys loving each other.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I'm gonna you know, and you know who knows it
might all be upfront, but you don't.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
You don't want to try to have fun with someone
who's not likable, you know what I'm saying, Like it's
a waste of time to do something fun with someone
who's not likable. Not gonna go along with it? Like
you just all right, this is a waste time. I'm
gonna do it, but you know you ask you if
you know someone's gonna give you something fun, you go
along with it. Like Carlisle. You could never do that
with Rick Carlisle.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
No, I mean, dude, we had him on to pick
some games one time and he uh him, he crapped
on that.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
It's a long time ago.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
But he's not a good you know, he's not what
a good plan, what a good but what thought out
felt fine at the time.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
You can't play fire ants pants for him.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
But there's a lot of shoddy stuff that is that
is going to follow him no matter what. And it
is he hasn't been a head coach. It's it was
not a big hire compared to other names that were
tossed around his dad. You know, there's so many things
that are involved that can make you just kind of
not take him seriously.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
And because he's talking about stuff that pretty much no
head coach would do.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
A head coach singing a point her sister song in
a press conference is not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
But then this is where.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I'm kind of like following this very closely, is they
had another fight yesterday at camp. Who fucked well one
guy's his last name is Cornelius, so uh and Johnny.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Cornelis not gonna be around here no more. Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Either way, it is offensive linemen. But they had to
talk last week about it. The next guy that throws
a punch like, dude, no, you're getting out. So Cornelia
Cornelius got thrown out of practice, did he? So he
stopped everything in the middle of another fight where he
had told him stop fighting. He told them last week,
and it happened again because these guys have to turn
it off. I mean, it's football, is weird, like we
(03:36):
have to get up to the line and then turn
it off. And then he made him start running gassers,
which you don't see that in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Dude, that's high school stuff, middle school, high school. Absolutely
all right, you guys are gooving off, get out there
and run sprints.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
After a trip to ponchos.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Ceedee, Lamb was talking about how it is the first
time he's had to run like gas or run lines
in forever.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Did he make the coaches run too? Did I see
that somewhere?
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I don't know. That'd be great if he did, but
probably more of me being fooled by the internet. You
might be getting fooled by the internet. But I don't.
I don't know that much.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
But so I'm sitting here going, okay, so is that
we can have fun at a press conference, but we
can also be disciplinearing guy, do you know who led
the NFL and penalties last year?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Dallas Cowboys. You're damn right they did. McCarthy doesn't coach. Oh,
it's Parcelson doesn't coach penalties. Well, McCarthy sitting said the
same thing, right, he yeah, I can't remember now. I
take every play. I remember that one. There's so many
and a lot of offensive line stuff that is such
a huge sign of a well coached team or not.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
So if he's got the ability to crack the whip
and start being like a hard ass while also like,
I don't know, man, it's very strange to me and
I nothing matters until he's calling plays right ceedee, Lamb's
talking about their offense and he's like, I'm open on
every play in this offense.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Bro, He's talking about motion on every play.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
People talking about motion. I heard people breaking down like
in the past, Like in the past couple year have
had like eight to twelve percent motion pre snap and
now they're at like ninety six percent. Like there's multiple
motions before the ball is snapped on.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Like every play it's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
If this is going to continue now, it might not.
It might just be one of those things. You have
to have a deep playbook here.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
You also have to be disciplined on the penalties to
your initial point.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Here's the last thing. Here is what CEEDI said. Throughout
the years of us being here, Talent was never the
problem for us. It's discipline. How do we get ahead
and not behind? How do we not shoot ourselves in
the foot? How do we not hurt ourselves? That is
something that I'm thinking. If that's turning, then I feel
very good and I will smash the over seven and
a half.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
No, smash the over.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Let's go all right there it is KT is officially
a shoddy guy. Coming up next, it's the gig guy.
All the shows you need to know about that are
coming to town.
Around the sports KTD tweets as all the sports.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Yeah, all right, so we've talked a little bit about
the Pointer Sisters big week because Jerry said that's the
song that he would play on the practice playlist, Slow
Hand by the Pointer Sisters. So I guess Jerry requested
that that get played. So here's Shoddy's press conference yesterday.
You're going about forty five seconds and maybe you'll hear
some of the media. The lots are made about the
(00:29):
energy at practice, and certainly the loud music supports that.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
But how does slow Hand by the Pointer into that?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Well, if you notice where I put it, it was
very well thought out, very calculated, and it was during
a special team's walk through. I did get some looks
by the guys and I just kind of did the
you know, it wasn't my request, And of course Pointer Sisters.
Maybe I like the faster paced pointersis. I'm gonna be honest, like,
I'm so excited. I like that one, you know, and
(00:57):
I just can't that's my probably favorite Pointer Sister song.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
But it was solid, solid Joyce.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Someone from very high up, extremely high, very high up.
But it was played at the right time because of
special teams walk through.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
All right.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
So it's weird because these are all questions that had
never been asked to Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
None of this nonsense.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Mike McCarthy will smash a watermelon, which I would argue
might be more non sitsical than your head coach singing
the Pointer Sister song. But like it's weird Mojo moment.
It's a little it's just a little different vibe.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Does he drill a hole in the watermelon before he
smashes it?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Because this everybody loves shoddy, there's this amazing rapport And
McCarthy was like, no nonsense and was defensive.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
And McCarthy's just open book.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Is he's a little more close to the vest and shot,
he's why to ask me anything.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I want my guys loving each other.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I'm gonna you know, and you know who knows it
might all be upfront, but you don't.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
You don't want to try to have fun with someone
who's not likable, you know what I'm saying, Like it's
a waste of time to do something fun with someone
who's not likable. Not gonna go along with it? Like
you just all right, this is a waste time. I'm
gonna do it, but you know you ask you if
you know someone's gonna give you something fun, you go
along with it. Like Carlisle. You could never do that
with Rick Carlisle.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
No, I mean, dude, we had him on to pick
some games one time and he uh him, he crapped
on that.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
It's a long time ago.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
But he's not a good you know, he's not what
a good plan, what a good but what thought out
felt fine at the time.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
You can't play fire ants pants for him.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
But there's a lot of shoddy stuff that is that
is going to follow him no matter what. And it
is he hasn't been a head coach. It's it was
not a big hire compared to other names that were
tossed around his dad. You know, there's so many things
that are involved that can make you just kind of
not take him seriously.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
And because he's talking about stuff that pretty much no
head coach would do.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
A head coach singing a point her sister song in
a press conference is not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
But then this is where.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I'm kind of like following this very closely, is they
had another fight yesterday at camp. Who fucked well one
guy's his last name is Cornelius, so uh and Johnny.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Cornelis not gonna be around here no more. Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Either way, it is offensive linemen. But they had to
talk last week about it. The next guy that throws
a punch like, dude, no, you're getting out. So Cornelia
Cornelius got thrown out of practice, did he? So he
stopped everything in the middle of another fight where he
had told him stop fighting. He told them last week,
and it happened again because these guys have to turn
it off. I mean, it's football, is weird, like we
(03:36):
have to get up to the line and then turn
it off. And then he made him start running gassers,
which you don't see that in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Dude, that's high school stuff, middle school, high school. Absolutely
all right, you guys are gooving off, get out there
and run sprints.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
After a trip to ponchos.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Ceedee, Lamb was talking about how it is the first
time he's had to run like gas or run lines
in forever.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Did he make the coaches run too? Did I see
that somewhere?
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I don't know. That'd be great if he did, but
probably more of me being fooled by the internet. You
might be getting fooled by the internet. But I don't.
I don't know that much.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
But so I'm sitting here going, okay, so is that
we can have fun at a press conference, but we
can also be disciplinearing guy, do you know who led
the NFL and penalties last year?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Dallas Cowboys. You're damn right they did. McCarthy doesn't coach. Oh,
it's Parcelson doesn't coach penalties. Well, McCarthy sitting said the
same thing, right, he yeah, I can't remember now. I
take every play. I remember that one. There's so many
and a lot of offensive line stuff that is such
a huge sign of a well coached team or not.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
So if he's got the ability to crack the whip
and start being like a hard ass while also like,
I don't know, man, it's very strange to me and
I nothing matters until he's calling plays right ceedee, Lamb's
talking about their offense and he's like, I'm open on
every play in this offense.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Bro, He's talking about motion on every play.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
People talking about motion. I heard people breaking down like
in the past, Like in the past couple year have
had like eight to twelve percent motion pre snap and
now they're at like ninety six percent. Like there's multiple
motions before the ball is snapped on.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Like every play it's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
If this is going to continue now, it might not.
It might just be one of those things. You have
to have a deep playbook here.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
You also have to be disciplined on the penalties to
your initial point.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Here's the last thing. Here is what CEEDI said. Throughout
the years of us being here, Talent was never the
problem for us. It's discipline. How do we get ahead
and not behind? How do we not shoot ourselves in
the foot? How do we not hurt ourselves? That is
something that I'm thinking. If that's turning, then I feel
very good and I will smash the over seven and
a half.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
No, smash the over.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Let's go all right there it is KT is officially
a shoddy guy. Coming up next, it's the gig guy.
All the shows you need to know about that are
coming to town.
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