October 1, 2025 • 6 mins
“Wait… did Lionel Richie really say Michael Jackson smelled bad?”In this segment of The Ben and Skin Show, Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray—dives headfirst into a whirlwind of celebrity oddities, pop culture nostalgia, and international comedy controversy.The show kicks off with a jaw-dropping revelation from Lionel Richie’s new memoir: that the King of Pop, Michael Jackson, was affectionately (and maybe not-so-affectionately) nicknamed “Smelly” by Richie and Quincy Jones. Why? Because apparently, MJ wasn’t too concerned with changing his clothes. The crew reacts in real-time, with Krystina’s disgusted “Gross!” setting the tone for a segment that’s equal parts hilarious and head-scratching.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Juicy news. God every stay on top in the wood shove.
The doctor that taught that monkey to talk is dead
at ninety one, Jane Goodall, so rest in peace to her.
(00:22):
Remember that monkey just talking to Robin Williams. What it's
a long time ago? Man's a monkey talked.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
She taught him sign language language.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Which is talking. I've always said, same language is talking,
sand language sign language yep, so okay uh. Lionel Richie
wrote a book, a memoir if you will. You know
how when books get released, a few excerpts start leaking out,
And the first excerpt that we have from the Lionel
(00:52):
Richie book is that Michael Jackson was apparently very smelly.
He said that Michael was kind of like a kid,
but his day to day life was eccentric, like an
absent minded professor, but still a kid. He and Quincy
(01:16):
Jones would make fun of him, and they nicknamed him smelly.
Michael would laugh too, realizing that he was oblivious to
the fact that he hadn't changed or washed his clothes
for a couple of days or so.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I love Christina's reaction. I mean, a couple days are
so gross.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
I mean, that is kind of kid like, Yeah, it
is a kiddle go shower and change its clothes when
you tell it to.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
I think the uh guys like that.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I've never heard this angle. I've never heard this story.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
But I do think about celebrities who lose their childhood
and then become wealthy, and then their whole rest of
their life is just trying to recapture that childhood. Is
that what's going on there with him?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
That's why he had speaking of monkeys, he had a
little monkey, and he had a legal playhouse, and he
had the home alone kid. I mean, they said the
Lionel Richie says, which Lionel Richie never take what he
says at face value.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Oh, you're about to tear him down?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
What is this? You guys seen the Hello music.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Video tear down Turner. It's a little weird, right line
of Richie.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Big listener of the show Weird texted me earlier said
he's listening.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
You're going to do my story today.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I feel like the last couple of years have been
a great acquittal of Lionel Richie's past.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Personally. Yeah, the documentary he was incredible.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
There's more stuff's coming out about how great he was,
And I thought his appearance on whatever the show is,
American Isle or whatever the thing is, that he's the
voice whatever the thing is that he's been on.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
He's been great.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
I think the details about how he adopted the girl
and took her into her life and gave her a
future to be hang out with Paris Hilton.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
That's fine, but does it absolve the Hello music video?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I think the music director should be on trial. What
do you remind me? What do you blind the woman?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Blind high school girl?
Speaker 4 (03:17):
And she's Oh, she's not a high school girl. He's
a college professor and it's a sculpting college.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Is it clear that it's college?
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Yes, I don't sculpting class. I mean, how many high
schools have sculpting class?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Kevin?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Is that a real answer? You get me to find out.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
I know you're trying to, but you're trying to tear
down pillar in our community.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
No, Lionel Richie has done so much for me.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Also, was it an ode to U that movie right
with Patrick Swayze?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Ghost Ghost?
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Was it at the same time it came out about
five years before?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
That's pretty creozy.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
In fact, I think Ghost happened because of the Lionel
Richie video, and if you go back and look at
that video, you'll see that Lionel Richie is a ghost.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
All right. The best thing in Ghost with Demi Moore,
when Patrick Swayzey passes away it comes back, was the
s and L bit about it.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Did you ever see this?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
M so is it because they're making fun of him
for not.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
No, they're like, okay, so a ghost comes back and
he's watching this woman that he loved, and she's all
beautiful and elegant, but in real life she's farting her
perfect and picking her nose and doing stuff. He's like,
he comes back as a ghost, he's so grossed out
that he leaves.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
That's excellent and that's the end of the line of
Richie story.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Now, luckily we do have time.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Bill Burr has played in this just to followup mission
that he has played in the comedy festival in Saudi Arabia,
the riadd Festival that has really divided the comedy world.
He said that whatever's been posted online, he goes, they
have toned that down about what's allowed and not allowed
to say, and basically it was don't make fun of
royals and religion.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Other than that you're good.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
So uh. He said it also was a real like
energetic thing because they were so excited to have big
name comedians come over and perform for him because it
doesn't happen for them very often. He also has a
shocking way of saying things, and he was He said,
I was nervous when I was landing. You tell jokes
(05:22):
about the Middle East. You think you're gonna come over
here and get beheaded, right. I'm like, these guys are
just like us. I don't speak the language, but I
get it. He was just talking about how he thought
everyone was gonna have like machetes and stuff and want
to chop his head off, and they're going to be
streaming death to America. And he's like, I've been fed
that my whole life. But they have Starbucks and Pizza
Hutt and Burger King and McDonald's.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
They got enough, and Chili's over here. He said in
an interview.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
So I think I think the United Emirates is way
different than just hanging out, you know, and Tehran.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, you know, I think so probably, Yeah, but uh.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
He's taking the money. I don't think he's too worried
about what people a saying about it is that this weekend.
I think it started the last couple of days. But
it's a two week comedy festival, so we've got big
ax book night after night.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I don't know when.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Chappelle is Chapelle headlining? Probably okay, I think so,
Juicy news. God every stay on top in the wood shove.
The doctor that taught that monkey to talk is dead
at ninety one, Jane Goodall, so rest in peace to her.
(00:22):
Remember that monkey just talking to Robin Williams. What it's
a long time ago? Man's a monkey talked.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
She taught him sign language language.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Which is talking. I've always said, same language is talking,
sand language sign language yep, so okay uh. Lionel Richie
wrote a book, a memoir if you will. You know
how when books get released, a few excerpts start leaking out,
And the first excerpt that we have from the Lionel
(00:52):
Richie book is that Michael Jackson was apparently very smelly.
He said that Michael was kind of like a kid,
but his day to day life was eccentric, like an
absent minded professor, but still a kid. He and Quincy
(01:16):
Jones would make fun of him, and they nicknamed him smelly.
Michael would laugh too, realizing that he was oblivious to
the fact that he hadn't changed or washed his clothes
for a couple of days or so.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I love Christina's reaction. I mean, a couple days are
so gross.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
I mean, that is kind of kid like, Yeah, it
is a kiddle go shower and change its clothes when
you tell it to.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
I think the uh guys like that.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I've never heard this angle. I've never heard this story.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
But I do think about celebrities who lose their childhood
and then become wealthy, and then their whole rest of
their life is just trying to recapture that childhood. Is
that what's going on there with him?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
That's why he had speaking of monkeys, he had a
little monkey, and he had a legal playhouse, and he
had the home alone kid. I mean, they said the
Lionel Richie says, which Lionel Richie never take what he
says at face value.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Oh, you're about to tear him down?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
What is this? You guys seen the Hello music.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Video tear down Turner. It's a little weird, right line
of Richie.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Big listener of the show Weird texted me earlier said
he's listening.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
You're going to do my story today.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I feel like the last couple of years have been
a great acquittal of Lionel Richie's past.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Personally. Yeah, the documentary he was incredible.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
There's more stuff's coming out about how great he was,
And I thought his appearance on whatever the show is,
American Isle or whatever the thing is, that he's the
voice whatever the thing is that he's been on.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
He's been great.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
I think the details about how he adopted the girl
and took her into her life and gave her a
future to be hang out with Paris Hilton.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
That's fine, but does it absolve the Hello music video?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I think the music director should be on trial. What
do you remind me? What do you blind the woman?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Blind high school girl?
Speaker 4 (03:17):
And she's Oh, she's not a high school girl. He's
a college professor and it's a sculpting college.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Is it clear that it's college?
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Yes, I don't sculpting class. I mean, how many high
schools have sculpting class?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Kevin?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Is that a real answer? You get me to find out.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
I know you're trying to, but you're trying to tear
down pillar in our community.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
No, Lionel Richie has done so much for me.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Also, was it an ode to U that movie right
with Patrick Swayze?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Ghost Ghost?
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Was it at the same time it came out about
five years before?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
That's pretty creozy.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
In fact, I think Ghost happened because of the Lionel
Richie video, and if you go back and look at
that video, you'll see that Lionel Richie is a ghost.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
All right. The best thing in Ghost with Demi Moore,
when Patrick Swayzey passes away it comes back, was the
s and L bit about it.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Did you ever see this?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
M so is it because they're making fun of him
for not.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
No, they're like, okay, so a ghost comes back and
he's watching this woman that he loved, and she's all
beautiful and elegant, but in real life she's farting her
perfect and picking her nose and doing stuff. He's like,
he comes back as a ghost, he's so grossed out
that he leaves.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
That's excellent and that's the end of the line of
Richie story.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Now, luckily we do have time.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Bill Burr has played in this just to followup mission
that he has played in the comedy festival in Saudi Arabia,
the riadd Festival that has really divided the comedy world.
He said that whatever's been posted online, he goes, they
have toned that down about what's allowed and not allowed
to say, and basically it was don't make fun of
royals and religion.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Other than that you're good.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
So uh. He said it also was a real like
energetic thing because they were so excited to have big
name comedians come over and perform for him because it
doesn't happen for them very often. He also has a
shocking way of saying things, and he was He said,
I was nervous when I was landing. You tell jokes
(05:22):
about the Middle East. You think you're gonna come over
here and get beheaded, right. I'm like, these guys are
just like us. I don't speak the language, but I
get it. He was just talking about how he thought
everyone was gonna have like machetes and stuff and want
to chop his head off, and they're going to be
streaming death to America. And he's like, I've been fed
that my whole life. But they have Starbucks and Pizza
Hutt and Burger King and McDonald's.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
They got enough, and Chili's over here. He said in
an interview.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
So I think I think the United Emirates is way
different than just hanging out, you know, and Tehran.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, you know, I think so probably, Yeah, but uh.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
He's taking the money. I don't think he's too worried
about what people a saying about it is that this weekend.
I think it started the last couple of days. But
it's a two week comedy festival, so we've got big
ax book night after night.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I don't know when.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Chappelle is Chapelle headlining? Probably okay, I think so,
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