October 6, 2025 • 8 mins
In this wildly entertaining episode of The Ben and Skin Show, Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray dive into the chaotic world of pop culture, celebrity hype, and cinematic flops. From The Rock’s Oscar-bait MMA drama The Smashing Machine to Taylor Swift’s polarizing new album and its bizarre movie tie-in, the crew delivers sharp takes, hilarious commentary, and a few jaw-dropping moments you won’t believe made it to air.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The juice most Gods.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
If you come.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Stay on top in.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
The wood shovel.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
So it was a big weekend at the movies because
the Rocks new movie was out.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
You guys remember the Rocks movie The Smashing Machine.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Oh yeah, it's a serious right appears to be, but
a true story.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
It's about an m M A guy.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I don't know how we could ever know, though, because
nobody saw it.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Oh this is this is the this is the movie
that got the like ten minutes standing ovation at the
con Film Festival for the Rock standing ovations.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
So if the rock is standing there, are you just
gonna sit down there?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Oh yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I think someone should be like, we can sit down now.
Someone needs to stand up. It's a crime what they're
doing over there with these standing ovations.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
Someone needs to sit down.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Everyone's speaking a different language though, it's hard to communicate.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Oh well, just keep it keep it going, keep it going.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Like no.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I will say.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
One of my favorite things to do when I'm on
a plane, if I'm sitting in the back, which I
often am because I don't have privileges, it's in the
plane lands. I like to go and see if you
can get people to do to clap for the pilot,
and I'm trying to help pilots, you know, get that,
get them morale boosted.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, even the.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Short flights, you clap when you land.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yes, okay, it's funny. It's funny.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
It's funny to do it to see if you can
get everyone to do it, because everyone will do it.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
I do it every time.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Oh yeah, almost every time.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Do you ever boom them when there's a lot of turbulence.
I know, boom's on a part of it. It's the
ovation boo these movies when they suck. At the con
Film Festival, the best thing to do at the end
of a flight is when you're in the back of
the plane, just start climbing over seats to get out.
Just rush your way. The opposite is like when you're
(01:58):
in a movie and it sucks you store Like some
people pride themselves in walking out of movies. They think
they're sending a message. And look at this, I'm leaving
because this movie sucks. Can't do that on a flight.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
This movie offended me with how terrible it is.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Unless you have a parachute.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Right, Oh yeah, you get a parachute by the way,
there was a skydiving death guy didn't have a parachute
on when he jumped.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Interesting segue into Hollywood News.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Six million for the Smashing Machine with Emily Blunt as well,
directed by Josh Savdy. It's a twenty four movie, which they,
you know, aren't really trying to have the biggest budget.
But I thought it was going to do better than that.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
This is the one, though, that the rock was doing
in order to go get his Academy Award nomination.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
And then he ran up into the buzz saw that
is Leo more On.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
One battle after another in the big finish today because
Ben and Christina finally saw it. But one battle after
another second and then you're a winner. At the weekend
box office was a movie called The Official Release Party
of a Showgirl, the Taylor Swift album release movie, in
which she brought in thirty three million dollars.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
What what?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I still don't understand what the movie was.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
What was the movie?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Someone who saw it?
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Oh hour and a half, okay.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Two hours and forty four minutes.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I'll say it was fine.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
It was underwhelming. Look, I had a cocktail and popcorn.
I was happy either one. Yeah, like I was fine.
First of all, I think so. I listened to the
album before when I was on my morning walk Friday,
just to see and I'll be damned if that's not
really getting the blood going.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Dude, I love it? You really? Are you the only
one on earth who loved it? Loves it?
Speaker 5 (03:47):
I liked it. I liked it a lot. I woke
up this morning with one of those songs stuck in
my head. That's how good this album?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Which one?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
There are three songs that stuck in my head?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Sun?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Doesn't she have a this stuff?
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
It's good, that's good.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Doesn't she have a song about Kelsey's ween? Yes, it's
called the Wood and they're these idiots. And by idiots,
I mean these Swifties.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
You know what they've done.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
The track time is two hundred is two minutes and
thirty seconds, so two hundred and thirty millimeters is nine inches,
So Travis gott a nine inch penis yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Oh no, no, no, that's that. People are insane.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
So my wife said, did you know this song is
about Travis Kelsey's nine inch long? And I was like really,
She goes, yeah, there's a lyric in it. I go, okay,
let's listen to it. There's no lyric in it.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Hey, everyone watch the Chiefs tonight. You can see how
big his penis is. It's not nine inches, but oh
and you're hanging down to the knee pad. Just take
a good look. It's bunched up in there.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, but he's not excited about football. No, it's it's
like the NWA song. It's nine inches of you guys
know the song.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
No, No, I'm when not keep up nine inches. You
have to talk on the radio.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Man, you're gonna have to go listen to the song.
We can't say it on the radio. Say we'll bleep
it out later. But no, I mean, this is this
is how out of control everything is.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Let's say it. Let's push the NCC now hold on.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I remember everyone telling me that she was playing halftime
in the super Bowl because of all these clues and
all this stuff that's in her stuff and it always happens,
and who and now bad Bunny's playing the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Me tell you a hot take Central here. She did
think she was playing the super Bowl halftime show. Cool,
She thought she could own it, and she got told no, okay,
and uh okay. So Christina likes the album that's already
a whole other thing. I wasn't gonna go there, but what.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Yeah, and this is the first time in a long time,
well for one, that I actually listened to a new
t Swift album, but that I liked multiple songs on
there and I wanted to go back and release it.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
That's not liking the album. Though you liked multiple songs.
That's not liking the album.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I would say, yeah, I write four songs on the album,
so that's that's awesome. And you're saying that this is
universally getting poop pooed. Oh yeah, everyone's killing it. Why
I think it sounds like a bland Taylor Swift album, But.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
I think people just like to be mad and be
mean all the time, So screw on.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
You know what I think. I think it's I think
it's her. I think it's how she's handling herself.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Honestly, though she's kind of given a little I'm better
than everyone energy on this record, because maybe she is.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Can I give you some perspective of someone that has
Taylor Swift fans in their household and I watched them
ract to the record and then heard some of the record.
So over the last whatever three or four Taylor Swift records.
She's gone in a different direction and worked with people
that weren't just big pop musicians. They were studied songwriters,
and she tried to do the I'm more mature and
(06:32):
she had a different writing style in all of this stuff.
And that's when my wife got into her. Now before that,
my daughter was into her, liked. I took my daughter
to the nineteen eighty nine tour, like and that's you know,
shake it Off and all that stuff, the pop stuff.
Then she did that New Heights podcast that I watched
a good chunk of it, and I sat there and
I watched her and Travis Kelsey tell me that it
(06:54):
was her best record, and so they got everyone hyped. Yeah,
and really it's a middle of the road pop record,
and you either really like this pop star or you don't.
And I think for a lot of her fan base,
she started establishing this other standard and then just went
back and made the middle of the road pop record
(07:15):
and everyone's like, well, wait, where's this thing that's gonna
blow my dome?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah, and it's just a pop record.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Well, it's still gonna do very well in the charts
and set all the streaming records. She had thirty three
million dollars for her to show the music video the
lead single, the lead singles good it really is. Yeah,
show the making of the music video, and also sit
in a chair and then talk about what each song means.
And if you're any artist of somewhat notoriety, you should
(07:42):
do this and you'll probably get like so much ROI
because it did not take thirty three million dollars to
film what has been released in theaters over the weekend.
It was her sitting in a lawn chair in her
living room talking about each song and well, here's this
is what she bothers me. This is where she we
don't hate Why are we cleaning up stuff the album.
(08:03):
The lyrics on the album are what they are, but
for the movie, we can't say, open up my thighs.
We have to change it to open up my skies.
She can't say that she's wet. She has to say
that she sweats. Like, don't censor this.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
You're in a movie theater. We can all watch it.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
The seven year old listen to the album, dude, so like,
we don't need to change it and change she bothers.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
There's something about her look, Adam. She's also really good.
It seems kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
All right, fantastic tear down, build up, teardown build up.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
He's a lizard person, all right.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Coming up just over three minutes, we're gonna take a
skin Ben. We get into an age old debate that
you've had strong opinions on in the past. We're gonna
break it down.
The juice most Gods.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
If you come.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Stay on top in.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
The wood shovel.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
So it was a big weekend at the movies because
the Rocks new movie was out.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
You guys remember the Rocks movie The Smashing Machine.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Oh yeah, it's a serious right appears to be, but
a true story.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
It's about an m M A guy.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I don't know how we could ever know, though, because
nobody saw it.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Oh this is this is the this is the movie
that got the like ten minutes standing ovation at the
con Film Festival for the Rock standing ovations.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
So if the rock is standing there, are you just
gonna sit down there?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Oh yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I think someone should be like, we can sit down now.
Someone needs to stand up. It's a crime what they're
doing over there with these standing ovations.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
Someone needs to sit down.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Everyone's speaking a different language though, it's hard to communicate.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Oh well, just keep it keep it going, keep it going.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Like no.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I will say.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
One of my favorite things to do when I'm on
a plane, if I'm sitting in the back, which I
often am because I don't have privileges, it's in the
plane lands. I like to go and see if you
can get people to do to clap for the pilot,
and I'm trying to help pilots, you know, get that,
get them morale boosted.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, even the.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Short flights, you clap when you land.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yes, okay, it's funny. It's funny.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
It's funny to do it to see if you can
get everyone to do it, because everyone will do it.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
I do it every time.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Oh yeah, almost every time.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Do you ever boom them when there's a lot of turbulence.
I know, boom's on a part of it. It's the
ovation boo these movies when they suck. At the con
Film Festival, the best thing to do at the end
of a flight is when you're in the back of
the plane, just start climbing over seats to get out.
Just rush your way. The opposite is like when you're
(01:58):
in a movie and it sucks you store Like some
people pride themselves in walking out of movies. They think
they're sending a message. And look at this, I'm leaving
because this movie sucks. Can't do that on a flight.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
This movie offended me with how terrible it is.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Unless you have a parachute.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Right, Oh yeah, you get a parachute by the way,
there was a skydiving death guy didn't have a parachute
on when he jumped.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Interesting segue into Hollywood News.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Six million for the Smashing Machine with Emily Blunt as well,
directed by Josh Savdy. It's a twenty four movie, which they,
you know, aren't really trying to have the biggest budget.
But I thought it was going to do better than that.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
This is the one, though, that the rock was doing
in order to go get his Academy Award nomination.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
And then he ran up into the buzz saw that
is Leo more On.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
One battle after another in the big finish today because
Ben and Christina finally saw it. But one battle after
another second and then you're a winner. At the weekend
box office was a movie called The Official Release Party
of a Showgirl, the Taylor Swift album release movie, in
which she brought in thirty three million dollars.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
What what?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I still don't understand what the movie was.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
What was the movie?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Someone who saw it?
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Oh hour and a half, okay.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Two hours and forty four minutes.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I'll say it was fine.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
It was underwhelming. Look, I had a cocktail and popcorn.
I was happy either one. Yeah, like I was fine.
First of all, I think so. I listened to the
album before when I was on my morning walk Friday,
just to see and I'll be damned if that's not
really getting the blood going.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Dude, I love it? You really? Are you the only
one on earth who loved it? Loves it?
Speaker 5 (03:47):
I liked it. I liked it a lot. I woke
up this morning with one of those songs stuck in
my head. That's how good this album?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Which one?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
There are three songs that stuck in my head?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Sun?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Doesn't she have a this stuff?
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
It's good, that's good.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Doesn't she have a song about Kelsey's ween? Yes, it's
called the Wood and they're these idiots. And by idiots,
I mean these Swifties.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
You know what they've done.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
The track time is two hundred is two minutes and
thirty seconds, so two hundred and thirty millimeters is nine inches,
So Travis gott a nine inch penis yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Oh no, no, no, that's that. People are insane.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
So my wife said, did you know this song is
about Travis Kelsey's nine inch long? And I was like really,
She goes, yeah, there's a lyric in it. I go, okay,
let's listen to it. There's no lyric in it.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Hey, everyone watch the Chiefs tonight. You can see how
big his penis is. It's not nine inches, but oh
and you're hanging down to the knee pad. Just take
a good look. It's bunched up in there.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, but he's not excited about football. No, it's it's
like the NWA song. It's nine inches of you guys
know the song.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
No, No, I'm when not keep up nine inches. You
have to talk on the radio.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Man, you're gonna have to go listen to the song.
We can't say it on the radio. Say we'll bleep
it out later. But no, I mean, this is this
is how out of control everything is.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Let's say it. Let's push the NCC now hold on.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I remember everyone telling me that she was playing halftime
in the super Bowl because of all these clues and
all this stuff that's in her stuff and it always happens,
and who and now bad Bunny's playing the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Me tell you a hot take Central here. She did
think she was playing the super Bowl halftime show. Cool,
She thought she could own it, and she got told no, okay,
and uh okay. So Christina likes the album that's already
a whole other thing. I wasn't gonna go there, but what.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Yeah, and this is the first time in a long time,
well for one, that I actually listened to a new
t Swift album, but that I liked multiple songs on
there and I wanted to go back and release it.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
That's not liking the album. Though you liked multiple songs.
That's not liking the album.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I would say, yeah, I write four songs on the album,
so that's that's awesome. And you're saying that this is
universally getting poop pooed. Oh yeah, everyone's killing it. Why
I think it sounds like a bland Taylor Swift album, But.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
I think people just like to be mad and be
mean all the time, So screw on.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
You know what I think. I think it's I think
it's her. I think it's how she's handling herself.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Honestly, though she's kind of given a little I'm better
than everyone energy on this record, because maybe she is.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Can I give you some perspective of someone that has
Taylor Swift fans in their household and I watched them
ract to the record and then heard some of the record.
So over the last whatever three or four Taylor Swift records.
She's gone in a different direction and worked with people
that weren't just big pop musicians. They were studied songwriters,
and she tried to do the I'm more mature and
(06:32):
she had a different writing style in all of this stuff.
And that's when my wife got into her. Now before that,
my daughter was into her, liked. I took my daughter
to the nineteen eighty nine tour, like and that's you know,
shake it Off and all that stuff, the pop stuff.
Then she did that New Heights podcast that I watched
a good chunk of it, and I sat there and
I watched her and Travis Kelsey tell me that it
(06:54):
was her best record, and so they got everyone hyped. Yeah,
and really it's a middle of the road pop record,
and you either really like this pop star or you don't.
And I think for a lot of her fan base,
she started establishing this other standard and then just went
back and made the middle of the road pop record
(07:15):
and everyone's like, well, wait, where's this thing that's gonna
blow my dome?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah, and it's just a pop record.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Well, it's still gonna do very well in the charts
and set all the streaming records. She had thirty three
million dollars for her to show the music video the
lead single, the lead singles good it really is. Yeah,
show the making of the music video, and also sit
in a chair and then talk about what each song means.
And if you're any artist of somewhat notoriety, you should
(07:42):
do this and you'll probably get like so much ROI
because it did not take thirty three million dollars to
film what has been released in theaters over the weekend.
It was her sitting in a lawn chair in her
living room talking about each song and well, here's this
is what she bothers me. This is where she we
don't hate Why are we cleaning up stuff the album.
(08:03):
The lyrics on the album are what they are, but
for the movie, we can't say, open up my thighs.
We have to change it to open up my skies.
She can't say that she's wet. She has to say
that she sweats. Like, don't censor this.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
You're in a movie theater. We can all watch it.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
The seven year old listen to the album, dude, so like,
we don't need to change it and change she bothers.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
There's something about her look, Adam. She's also really good.
It seems kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
All right, fantastic tear down, build up, teardown build up.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
He's a lizard person, all right.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Coming up just over three minutes, we're gonna take a
skin Ben. We get into an age old debate that
you've had strong opinions on in the past. We're gonna
break it down.
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