October 1, 2025 • 6 mins
In this football segment of The Ben and Skin Show, Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray dive deep into the rise of Cowboys kicker Brandon Aubrey, whose leg might just be the most valuable weapon in Dallas right now.From Vic Fangio’s eyebrow-raising comments about the new NFL kicking balls to wild speculation about Aubrey’s trade value — including whether he’s worth a first-round pick — this episode is packed with hot takes, hilarious moments, and genuine football insight.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Cowboy Surprise.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Sunday at noon. It is the zero to four New
York Jets. But I'll tell you what the big story
today to me personally in Cowboy Land is that the
Eagles defensive coordinator Vic Fangio is talking about our kicker,
Brandon Aubrey. Now he's talking first about the new kicking
balls that they have, which is a little different. He
(00:39):
kind of explains it, and then what he says at the.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
End is very cool.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
These kicking balls that they changed this year have drastically
changed the kicking game field goals in particular. So it's
almost like they need an asterisk here.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Like it was the live ball are.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Different. No, in years past, the officials would rub him
down or other people would rub them down and you
play with them. Now now the balls are in the
house all week and they kick those balls that they've
had and nobody else touches them. And the guy in
Dallas is going to hit a seventy plus yarder this year.
You can just book it perfect myself.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
I don't want to, So Vic Vangio played that song
at the end of the press conference.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah, so wait, what is different?
Speaker 6 (01:31):
They that each team is allowed to keep their own
kicking balls and do whatever they want to them all week.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
So they used to have kicking balls too, But I
don't know what the difference is. Yeah, that's very His
description was very strange to me.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
But today is the first day that I knew that
there was a different ball from kicking.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
Plus I didn't do that. But I'm real curious.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
So is that what the conversation was when Romo fumbled
the snap in the Seattle playoff?
Speaker 7 (01:56):
Wasn't that something to that?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I think there was.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
I think does that mean that one team gets to
control the balls or each team has their own kicking balls?
Can you change the amount of air pressure on it?
Or can you alter it however you want?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Like, I don't understand.
Speaker 7 (02:11):
I don't know that much.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I would assume you can't deflate or inflate the ball outside.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I would assume that an official.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
But you can rub them down and have them ready
to go the way you want them, rather than having
to rub them and play with them, because he said
with the officials would rub them and play with them.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah, some people forget to rub the balls, Oh for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
You know, so, I think yeap what he's saying, though
he basically compared it to the steroid era of baseball.
And hey, kicking is good in the NFL. You know
what's not good in the NFL those special teams for everyone.
So it's kind of interesting. It's been a lot of
block kicks that has nothing to do with that. I
would imagine our team's finding a way to just jump
the snap.
Speaker 7 (02:48):
I don't know what's going on there.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
I wondered about that because I've seen and I'm not
just talking about the janie play like they've been all
over the league and at the end of games, like
deciding games I've already seen I think three games have
had the direct impact in the final couple plays because
a dude blocked a kick.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
Man, it sucks so bad when you have a bad kicker,
and it's just it's just brutal. And the Cowboys are
in a situation where their kicker might be the best
player on their entire team.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, and I heard them.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
I heard some guys talking about these the other day
and in the g bag nation, and they were talking about, Okay,
is it possible that Aubrey could have such an incredible year?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Could he win MVP?
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Like not, They weren't saying he was going to But
they're like, that's how good he is. If he can
actually win games, could he be in the discussion, probably not,
that's crazy. And then and then also which and that's
the pretense into which they were having the discussion is
that's crazy. But they were also like, all right, how
much money will he make per year? And what would
a team give up for him? If you were like,
all right, look, we're not going to win right now.
(03:48):
We don't want to pay him ten million dollars whatever
it is, if you traded him, what would he be worth?
Because that dude is so freaking valuable that he can
change games.
Speaker 7 (03:57):
He might be you know, outside of Dad, He absolutely can.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
He impacts the end of games differently I think than
any player on the team other than Dak.
Speaker 7 (04:07):
But I saw this.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
I don't know if you guys saw this a week
or two ago, and I don't know if it was
just speculation based on the pass, but that the Joneses
in general look at the window of a kicker to
be like three years, and so they don't want.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
To pay a kicker a bunch of money.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
Did you all see that?
Speaker 6 (04:22):
So if they don't want to pay him if they
don't want to pay him, what would somebody give up
for him? So let's say you are contending NFL team,
but you got everything good to go, you just don't
have a kicker.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
And what's he worth?
Speaker 5 (04:35):
He's worth a first round pick for a team that
can win a Super Bowl because in a sport where
that if you go and look at the best teams
and when they square off in the margin for air
and how it comes down to the end of a game,
you can play a game. You can play the final
five minutes of a game differently if you have Brandon Aubrey,
you really can. I know the idea is to go
(04:57):
for it and all that stuff, but I'm just saying
you can. You can manage a clock differently with a
weapon like that. I think first rounders are reach. I
agree with what you said at the end, but I
think first round.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
Would you if KT if you were the GM of
the Cowboys and somebody offered you a first round pick
for Aubrey, would you take that first round pick or
would you said no, I gotta.
Speaker 7 (05:15):
Have robbed him. Yeah, okay, but the second rounder we
could probably talk.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
If you're a team that is a kicker away from
winning a Super Bowl. And by the way, that pick
is going to be twenty eight or thirty or whatever.
You're not going to give that up.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I mean, dude, Green Bay gave up two first for Micah. Yeah,
so one one first for five. But you're not going
to do it unless you're teams in. But he's making
twenty five million dollars a year if he's a first
round pick. The highest pied kicker of the league is
six point four million dollars a year. Okay, Brandon Can
The Cows are not about to offer him ten million dollars.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
But think about how much easier it is for him
to impact a game than anyone else.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
I know. I think these games they've played this year,
like he's the only kicker who's made one from sixty plus,
Like he can do it from seventy.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
We think we truly believe that, and I'm all on board.
I think that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I do think they're like four or five other guys
who can do the same thing. Because he's never been
asked to go kick a seventy yarder yet, But dude, he.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Hit a sixty four yarder at the buzzer.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Like with the most pressure that defensive coordinator just brought
his name up and they're not even playing him. He's
thinking about him in that context.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Okay, but we're talking about a first round pick.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
That was the defensive coordinator that said he knows how
to beat the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
All the time, we're talking about him resetting the market
at seven million dollars a.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
Year, he's going to get eight or nine kids.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
I don't know, like Jerry's got extra money to play with. Now,
all right, there you have it, Katie Hates Brandon Aubrey.
Coming up next, No.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
I'm just kidding. Coming up next in the weekly weekday Update.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
The Dallas Morning News is celebrating turning one hundred and
forty years old, and we've got the best show clips
from September. All that's coming your way next on The
Eagle
The Cowboy Surprise.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Sunday at noon. It is the zero to four New
York Jets. But I'll tell you what the big story
today to me personally in Cowboy Land is that the
Eagles defensive coordinator Vic Fangio is talking about our kicker,
Brandon Aubrey. Now he's talking first about the new kicking
balls that they have, which is a little different. He
(00:39):
kind of explains it, and then what he says at the.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
End is very cool.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
These kicking balls that they changed this year have drastically
changed the kicking game field goals in particular. So it's
almost like they need an asterisk here.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Like it was the live ball are.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Different. No, in years past, the officials would rub him
down or other people would rub them down and you
play with them. Now now the balls are in the
house all week and they kick those balls that they've
had and nobody else touches them. And the guy in
Dallas is going to hit a seventy plus yarder this year.
You can just book it perfect myself.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
I don't want to, So Vic Vangio played that song
at the end of the press conference.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah, so wait, what is different?
Speaker 6 (01:31):
They that each team is allowed to keep their own
kicking balls and do whatever they want to them all week.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
So they used to have kicking balls too, But I
don't know what the difference is. Yeah, that's very His
description was very strange to me.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
But today is the first day that I knew that
there was a different ball from kicking.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
Plus I didn't do that. But I'm real curious.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
So is that what the conversation was when Romo fumbled
the snap in the Seattle playoff?
Speaker 7 (01:56):
Wasn't that something to that?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I think there was.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
I think does that mean that one team gets to
control the balls or each team has their own kicking balls?
Can you change the amount of air pressure on it?
Or can you alter it however you want?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Like, I don't understand.
Speaker 7 (02:11):
I don't know that much.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I would assume you can't deflate or inflate the ball outside.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I would assume that an official.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
But you can rub them down and have them ready
to go the way you want them, rather than having
to rub them and play with them, because he said
with the officials would rub them and play with them.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah, some people forget to rub the balls, Oh for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
You know, so, I think yeap what he's saying, though
he basically compared it to the steroid era of baseball.
And hey, kicking is good in the NFL. You know
what's not good in the NFL those special teams for everyone.
So it's kind of interesting. It's been a lot of
block kicks that has nothing to do with that. I
would imagine our team's finding a way to just jump
the snap.
Speaker 7 (02:48):
I don't know what's going on there.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
I wondered about that because I've seen and I'm not
just talking about the janie play like they've been all
over the league and at the end of games, like
deciding games I've already seen I think three games have
had the direct impact in the final couple plays because
a dude blocked a kick.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
Man, it sucks so bad when you have a bad kicker,
and it's just it's just brutal. And the Cowboys are
in a situation where their kicker might be the best
player on their entire team.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, and I heard them.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
I heard some guys talking about these the other day
and in the g bag nation, and they were talking about, Okay,
is it possible that Aubrey could have such an incredible year?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Could he win MVP?
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Like not, They weren't saying he was going to But
they're like, that's how good he is. If he can
actually win games, could he be in the discussion, probably not,
that's crazy. And then and then also which and that's
the pretense into which they were having the discussion is
that's crazy. But they were also like, all right, how
much money will he make per year? And what would
a team give up for him? If you were like,
all right, look, we're not going to win right now.
(03:48):
We don't want to pay him ten million dollars whatever
it is, if you traded him, what would he be worth?
Because that dude is so freaking valuable that he can
change games.
Speaker 7 (03:57):
He might be you know, outside of Dad, He absolutely can.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
He impacts the end of games differently I think than
any player on the team other than Dak.
Speaker 7 (04:07):
But I saw this.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
I don't know if you guys saw this a week
or two ago, and I don't know if it was
just speculation based on the pass, but that the Joneses
in general look at the window of a kicker to
be like three years, and so they don't want.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
To pay a kicker a bunch of money.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
Did you all see that?
Speaker 6 (04:22):
So if they don't want to pay him if they
don't want to pay him, what would somebody give up
for him? So let's say you are contending NFL team,
but you got everything good to go, you just don't
have a kicker.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
And what's he worth?
Speaker 5 (04:35):
He's worth a first round pick for a team that
can win a Super Bowl because in a sport where
that if you go and look at the best teams
and when they square off in the margin for air
and how it comes down to the end of a game,
you can play a game. You can play the final
five minutes of a game differently if you have Brandon Aubrey,
you really can. I know the idea is to go
(04:57):
for it and all that stuff, but I'm just saying
you can. You can manage a clock differently with a
weapon like that. I think first rounders are reach. I
agree with what you said at the end, but I
think first round.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
Would you if KT if you were the GM of
the Cowboys and somebody offered you a first round pick
for Aubrey, would you take that first round pick or
would you said no, I gotta.
Speaker 7 (05:15):
Have robbed him. Yeah, okay, but the second rounder we
could probably talk.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
If you're a team that is a kicker away from
winning a Super Bowl. And by the way, that pick
is going to be twenty eight or thirty or whatever.
You're not going to give that up.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I mean, dude, Green Bay gave up two first for Micah. Yeah,
so one one first for five. But you're not going
to do it unless you're teams in. But he's making
twenty five million dollars a year if he's a first
round pick. The highest pied kicker of the league is
six point four million dollars a year. Okay, Brandon Can
The Cows are not about to offer him ten million dollars.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
But think about how much easier it is for him
to impact a game than anyone else.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
I know. I think these games they've played this year,
like he's the only kicker who's made one from sixty plus,
Like he can do it from seventy.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
We think we truly believe that, and I'm all on board.
I think that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I do think they're like four or five other guys
who can do the same thing. Because he's never been
asked to go kick a seventy yarder yet, But dude, he.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Hit a sixty four yarder at the buzzer.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Like with the most pressure that defensive coordinator just brought
his name up and they're not even playing him. He's
thinking about him in that context.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Okay, but we're talking about a first round pick.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
That was the defensive coordinator that said he knows how
to beat the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
All the time, we're talking about him resetting the market
at seven million dollars a.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
Year, he's going to get eight or nine kids.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
I don't know, like Jerry's got extra money to play with. Now,
all right, there you have it, Katie Hates Brandon Aubrey.
Coming up next, No.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
I'm just kidding. Coming up next in the weekly weekday Update.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
The Dallas Morning News is celebrating turning one hundred and
forty years old, and we've got the best show clips
from September. All that's coming your way next on The
Eagle
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