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June 11, 2025 5 mins
“Is this going to be a raw, behind-the-scenes exposé—or just a puff piece?” That’s the burning question as Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray dive headfirst into Netflix’s bombshell announcement: a 10-part documentary titled America’s Team: The Gambler and His Cowboys, premiering August 19.In this episode of The Ben and Skin Show, the crew breaks down everything we know—and everything we’re skeptical about—regarding the upcoming Cowboys doc. From Jerry Jones’ Arkansas roots to the dynasty years with the Triplets and Deion Sanders, this series promises to cover it all… but how deep will it really go?The gang speculates on the doc’s tone, its potential to rewrite Cowboys history, and whether the Netflix cameras following the team in 2023 were meant to capture a triumphant ending—or a frustrating collapse. Spoiler: it’s the latter.Plus, a surprise Tony Hawk sighting in Anna, Texas sparks a hilarious debate: “Name another pro skater.” “Franz.”
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Juicys, Hot Gods, every stay on top in the wood shovel.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Netflix has made a big announcement today and it is
that the Cowboys documentary that's titled America's Team, The Gambler
and His Cowboys will drop on August nineteenth.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Wait, that's what it's called. Yeah, did you see the
picture of it? I sent to her bent the picture,
but I was driving sided. Okay, it's fascinating. So it's
got the triplets and Dion on there with Jerry and
the star and his sunglasses. I can't wait for this
me either. But this could go a million different ways.
This could be all right, let's get into the White
House and how ugly it got. But I doubt the

(00:51):
Cowboys would help with that and do interviews with it
and stuff if they thought it was going to go
that direction. Or it could be a puff piece. So
I really don't know what to expect.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Episodes. Go ahead, let me read this to you.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, and this is from the pressure release here.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
So this is a documentary. It's not current Cowboys. It's
a documentary on the Jerry years, and it's like the
Michael Jordan thing, is what I would think.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Okay, the documentary is a partnership with the Jones family.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Oh, Tracing is more like the Fab five documentary.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, tracing Jones's rise from the sun of an Arkansas
community store owner to being one of the most innovative
influential leaders in sports ten episodes though, I do like that.
So we'll start in eighty nine with him buying the team,
or then maybe they talk about his childhood and all
that stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
It'll still be good, but it won't be sallacious. Yeah,
this is more like a memoir for Jerry type thing.
Feels like smart for them.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Anybody that wants to control a narrative and you have
the means to do it, get you a documentary made
and get your hands all over it while it's being made.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, I just tell you know this from a couple
of buddies that cover the team. Basically, the Netflix cameras
were all around. Twenty twenty four was last year. Yeah,
twenty twenty three, Sorry, twenty twenty three ago. Twenty twenty three,
the Netflix cameras were all around, and they got the

(02:10):
big loss to the Packers in the playoffs. Oh, and
I remember the guy who's covering the team was like
one reason Jerry's so mad about that game is because
I think they thought that was the year they had it,
they had the dogs to go really do it, And
that's why they didn't pump all their resources into twenty
twenty four last year.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
It's because they kind of thought that it would cap off.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
The documentary and all that stuff, and it just didn't
get close to happening.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
He also said it was very annoying.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
When the Netflix people would be on the elevator and
you just run into them all the time at the
Star They're just kind of in the way. They're around
a lot in twenty twenty three. So part of the
reason McCarthy probably fired, like, yeah, but there you go.
That's that's kind of interesting to me.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
You know, it's.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Hearing that part of it. But you've got to do that,
You've got to make it go full circle. But I
hope they don't lean heavily on the last couple of years. Yeah,
you know, I mean, in other words, well, I think
it's the nineties, right, this is what they're looking at. Well, yeah,
but the whole point of all the Netflix cameras being there,
they're trying to capture the final season and tie it
all together.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
I mean, ten episodes. It's weird because they were eight
and eight. It felt like, Yeah, but those Garrett years
are very interesting. They're interesting.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
But also what I'm saying is like, I hope, you know,
I feel like the McCarthy years could be about maybe
an episode at the most, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I don't want to spend a bunch of that, like
the most interesting. I mean, we're talking about thirty years now, right,
so that's a long time. The Triplet years, the Parcels years,

(03:51):
and the Garrett years are far more interesting to this
story arc than everything else, Like Chan Gaily and Campo
and McCarthy. I mean, you've got to do that stuff.
But if yesterday we did the fifty thirty twenty rule,
like to me, it'd be like fifty forty ten and
ten would be.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
McCarthy, Campo, Gaily.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
The great thing about Gaily is that is when Michael
Irvin started stabbing people in the neck with scissors. That's
always fun. Yeah, But dude, I the cowboys are king
here and we've talked about it a lot. But if
you look at the TV ratings, I love talking about this.
You know, one percent of the market will watch the
Stars game, and that's a very passionate one percent, but

(04:32):
one percent of the market will be watching the Stars
on TV.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
Two to three percent will.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Watch a Ranger game, three to five percent we'll watch
a Maverick game, and thirty five to forty percent we'll
watch a Cowboy game. It's insane. It's insane.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Yeah, all right, oh yeah, thanks spreaking. One more thing
in here. Tony Hawk just skating up and Anna, wait,
isn't he a Plano guy? What he go?

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Ahead?

Speaker 4 (04:58):
No, I didn't know.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
California, No, no, but he has ties to Plano. There
is a big Plano skate community.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
He donated that, and that's in the eighties, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
but this is up and Anna, yesterday, I know a
bunch of skater dudes that were always talking about Tony
Hawk and Plano and all this stuff.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
And name another skater though professional skater. Uh friends, Yes, that's.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
True, that's true. The video game had to help in
regard to immensely.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
All right. Coming up next, we'll get to these Jason
Kid rumors.
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