September 24, 2025 • 6 mins
"Can the Dallas Cowboys recover from another 1-2 start—or are we watching history repeat itself?"In this lively and laugh-packed episode of The Ben and Skin Show, hosts Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray break down the Cowboys’ rocky start to the season with a mix of stats, sarcasm, and signature banter. With only 5 winning seasons out of 18 when starting 1-2, the crew asks: Is this just another doomed campaign, or can Dak and company defy the odds?From reminiscing about the chaos of the 2020 season (remember Garrett Gilbert and Ben DiNucci?) to roasting the current defense for giving up 37 points to the Giants, the hosts deliver a brutally honest—and hilarious—assessment of the Cowboys’ trajectory.But it’s not all football! The gang dives into Major League Baseball’s new challenge system for balls and strikes, sparking a spirited debate about the future of umpiring.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ben and Skin Show ninety seven point one. The Eagle.
This segment right her is brought to you by Frankel
and Frankel. We were just talking about those gentlemen. Uh,
you need to have their number ready two one four,
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(00:22):
thirty three thirty three. They have so much experience in
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insurance companies that do not want to give you what
you deserve. They fight for you, Frankel and Frankel. But
right now it's time for this. Now it's cool around
the sports KT quins as all the sports yeshah.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
All right, So the Cowboys are one and two, right,
and they've started one and two in their franchise history
eighteen times, eighteen times.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
How many of these eighteen times do you think they
ended up with a winning record?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Winning? Okay, how many eighteen times they started off one
and two? One year they won a Super Bowl, that's correct,
nineteen ninety three, yep, it was Emmetts holdout. God probably,
(01:24):
I guess. I mean, it just depends on the team, right,
So some of those teams could have been decent teams
that start off that way and went on to do
great things. So it's probably half of them. Yeah, I
was gonna say, I bet it's a Jason Garrett number.
It's probably nine and nine lower like a worst record.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
It's five five, five times they had a winning record
when they started one and two. The most recent time
this happened was in twenty eighteen. They went ten and
six and won the division, So that would have been
Dak's third year. They keep in mind, the Chiefs and
the Ravens are one and two right now. One of
them will be one in three after this weekend. Are
(02:00):
they playing each other?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah? Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Also your other winning records, you had one in nineteen
seventy four, so that's good, and then ninety one, ninety three,
and ninety six so made the playoffs, ninety one on
Super Bowl ninety three, division champs in ninety six.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
You know what else too, it's slightly different now that
they're seventeen games.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Well, okay, yeah, I'm glad you said that because seven
and ten. Last year when they started one and two,
CAP seven and ten. But last year Dak gets hurt.
We write that one off. The last time they start
off one and two before that, twenty twenty they went
six and ten. Dak got hurt. How in the hell
in twenty twenty did they who had a worse defense
at this point than they do now, did they win
(02:43):
six games? They started rushing? Yeah, flag was twelve.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
And he did it.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
They started Garrett Gilbert at quarterback, Ben Denucci at quarterback.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Oh that was that year.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Got great Garrett Gilbert about that. He's our buddy. That's
the guy that played for the Cowboys. Yeah, wow, Gilbert,
I played basketball with them. He's so that help us
with our insurance.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I did not realize that to sm u Gray, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Played at UT. His dad was a big quarterback too,
great guy.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I mean it was in contention to back up Dak,
and you know, I think it's basically him and versus
Cooper rush for a couple of years. So I thought
that was kind of wild because it again against as yesterday,
they've given up five more five less points this year
than they had in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
At this point when Mike Nolan.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
The thing is they gave up thirty seven points to
the Giants who can't score.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
That's what's just so. Yeah, I looked at the twenty
twenty years. They give it forty nine points to the Browns.
I don't even know what was going on with the
Browns then, but.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It wouldn't have been good.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Might have been Baker before Baker got good. Okay, did
you see this l We talked about the Rangers earlier. Yeah,
But the MLB is inserting a challenge system for balls
and st next year and it's great. Yeah. Okay, So
twice a game, each team has two challenges, okay, and
(04:08):
if you get it right, you keep it, and if
you miss it, you lose it.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
So you get two.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
You might have ten if you want. But the only
people who can signal for the challenge is the pitcher,
the catcher or the hitter.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Oh so, I don't know love that.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
It feels like there will be a way that this
comes from the dugout and they're like, uh, you know.
So it's so annoying when they when when the umpire
misses a call, it's like right, and they show you
in the box how I missed it. It's like, okay,
we can if the TV is showing me within time.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Let me understand what you're saying. They get two. They
only get two challenges if the first one is right.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
No, you keep it. If you have you have two. Uh,
you get it right, You still have to you miss it. Okay,
you have one, you get it right, you keep you
keep your challenge. Oh so you can keep challenging. Yeah,
as long as you'll miss it, you'll get two missing
the game. They tested this out in the minor leagues
and only added an average of fourteen seconds to game time.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Why wouldn't they just go ahead and go fully automated,
Like you don't even need a physical human umpire, Just
put the strike zone back there and it's either green
or red. Happy.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, but cannot lose my dad as a baseball fan.
You know, I think that I really think it's all that.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I mean, because really, if you're gonna do that anyways, what.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I mean, I kind of I think this is great
because it keeps that human element just just slightly involved.
It's like we're doing now with anything we do in life. Yeah,
the human elements gotta be there a little bit.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Let's full or we're just watching robots performed tasks.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
But in they cool like the picture catcher and hitter
like those no ones, no way, like they're.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Gonna yea the emotional hitter Like no, dude, don't.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I think you're right too. I think the batter will
step out of the box, take a second kind of
look over at the bench, and the manager will do
good the signs and they'll they'll challenge it if Yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
I like I also the idea of them kind of
making an ass of their self.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Oh I was gonna have too, because you look at
the NBA, how many guys go like this. Oh immediately
they're like, oh my god, that's not a right call.
And it's like, yeah, it was Spencer Dinwiddie, number one culprit.
That's gonna make managers mad when they're players. Yeah, yep,
we still have Sprecher, didn't we. All Right, there you
have it. That's the latest on Spencer Dinwitdy. Coming up
next in the weekly Weekday Update, the return of Jimmy
(06:24):
Kimmel will discuss next
Ben and Skin Show ninety seven point one. The Eagle.
This segment right her is brought to you by Frankel
and Frankel. We were just talking about those gentlemen. Uh,
you need to have their number ready two one four,
three three, three thirty three thirty three. If you've been
hurt recently in a record on the job site, call
them immediately, get them in the mix. Well, we always say,
call the Frankeles first, two one four, three three three
(00:22):
thirty three thirty three. They have so much experience in
helping you get what you deserve. They will fight the
insurance companies that do not want to give you what
you deserve. They fight for you, Frankel and Frankel. But
right now it's time for this. Now it's cool around
the sports KT quins as all the sports yeshah.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
All right, So the Cowboys are one and two, right,
and they've started one and two in their franchise history
eighteen times, eighteen times.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
How many of these eighteen times do you think they
ended up with a winning record?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Winning? Okay, how many eighteen times they started off one
and two? One year they won a Super Bowl, that's correct,
nineteen ninety three, yep, it was Emmetts holdout. God probably,
(01:24):
I guess. I mean, it just depends on the team, right,
So some of those teams could have been decent teams
that start off that way and went on to do
great things. So it's probably half of them. Yeah, I
was gonna say, I bet it's a Jason Garrett number.
It's probably nine and nine lower like a worst record.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
It's five five, five times they had a winning record
when they started one and two. The most recent time
this happened was in twenty eighteen. They went ten and
six and won the division, So that would have been
Dak's third year. They keep in mind, the Chiefs and
the Ravens are one and two right now. One of
them will be one in three after this weekend. Are
(02:00):
they playing each other?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah? Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Also your other winning records, you had one in nineteen
seventy four, so that's good, and then ninety one, ninety three,
and ninety six so made the playoffs, ninety one on
Super Bowl ninety three, division champs in ninety six.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
You know what else too, it's slightly different now that
they're seventeen games.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Well, okay, yeah, I'm glad you said that because seven
and ten. Last year when they started one and two,
CAP seven and ten. But last year Dak gets hurt.
We write that one off. The last time they start
off one and two before that, twenty twenty they went
six and ten. Dak got hurt. How in the hell
in twenty twenty did they who had a worse defense
at this point than they do now, did they win
(02:43):
six games? They started rushing? Yeah, flag was twelve.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
And he did it.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
They started Garrett Gilbert at quarterback, Ben Denucci at quarterback.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Oh that was that year.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Got great Garrett Gilbert about that. He's our buddy. That's
the guy that played for the Cowboys. Yeah, wow, Gilbert,
I played basketball with them. He's so that help us
with our insurance.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I did not realize that to sm u Gray, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Played at UT. His dad was a big quarterback too,
great guy.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I mean it was in contention to back up Dak,
and you know, I think it's basically him and versus
Cooper rush for a couple of years. So I thought
that was kind of wild because it again against as yesterday,
they've given up five more five less points this year
than they had in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
At this point when Mike Nolan.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
The thing is they gave up thirty seven points to
the Giants who can't score.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
That's what's just so. Yeah, I looked at the twenty
twenty years. They give it forty nine points to the Browns.
I don't even know what was going on with the
Browns then, but.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It wouldn't have been good.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Might have been Baker before Baker got good. Okay, did
you see this l We talked about the Rangers earlier. Yeah,
But the MLB is inserting a challenge system for balls
and st next year and it's great. Yeah. Okay, So
twice a game, each team has two challenges, okay, and
(04:08):
if you get it right, you keep it, and if
you miss it, you lose it.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
So you get two.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
You might have ten if you want. But the only
people who can signal for the challenge is the pitcher,
the catcher or the hitter.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Oh so, I don't know love that.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
It feels like there will be a way that this
comes from the dugout and they're like, uh, you know.
So it's so annoying when they when when the umpire
misses a call, it's like right, and they show you
in the box how I missed it. It's like, okay,
we can if the TV is showing me within time.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Let me understand what you're saying. They get two. They
only get two challenges if the first one is right.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
No, you keep it. If you have you have two. Uh,
you get it right, You still have to you miss it. Okay,
you have one, you get it right, you keep you
keep your challenge. Oh so you can keep challenging. Yeah,
as long as you'll miss it, you'll get two missing
the game. They tested this out in the minor leagues
and only added an average of fourteen seconds to game time.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Why wouldn't they just go ahead and go fully automated,
Like you don't even need a physical human umpire, Just
put the strike zone back there and it's either green
or red. Happy.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, but cannot lose my dad as a baseball fan.
You know, I think that I really think it's all that.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I mean, because really, if you're gonna do that anyways, what.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I mean, I kind of I think this is great
because it keeps that human element just just slightly involved.
It's like we're doing now with anything we do in life. Yeah,
the human elements gotta be there a little bit.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Let's full or we're just watching robots performed tasks.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
But in they cool like the picture catcher and hitter
like those no ones, no way, like they're.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Gonna yea the emotional hitter Like no, dude, don't.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I think you're right too. I think the batter will
step out of the box, take a second kind of
look over at the bench, and the manager will do
good the signs and they'll they'll challenge it if Yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
I like I also the idea of them kind of
making an ass of their self.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Oh I was gonna have too, because you look at
the NBA, how many guys go like this. Oh immediately
they're like, oh my god, that's not a right call.
And it's like, yeah, it was Spencer Dinwiddie, number one culprit.
That's gonna make managers mad when they're players. Yeah, yep,
we still have Sprecher, didn't we. All Right, there you
have it. That's the latest on Spencer Dinwitdy. Coming up
next in the weekly Weekday Update, the return of Jimmy
(06:24):
Kimmel will discuss next
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