September 9, 2025 • 6 mins
"Is talent enough when consistency is missing?"
In this fiery and unfiltered episode of The Ben and Skin Show, Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray dive deep into the Cowboys' locker room drama surrounding rookie running back Jaydon Blue. From whispers of laziness and playbook confusion, the crew unpacks the tension brewing behind the scenes—and what it means for the Cowboys' season.
In this fiery and unfiltered episode of The Ben and Skin Show, Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray dive deep into the Cowboys' locker room drama surrounding rookie running back Jaydon Blue. From whispers of laziness and playbook confusion, the crew unpacks the tension brewing behind the scenes—and what it means for the Cowboys' season.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Surprise. Brian Schottenheimer met with the media yesterday and he
was asked about Jayden Blue. Why wasn't Jayden Blue active
(00:26):
last week? Mighty be active this week against the Giants.
Jaydan Blue, for those that don't know, the fifth round
running back from Texas.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
There's a lot of.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Hope that he could be a maybe, if not the starter,
get a lot of work as the second running back.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
And here's what he said.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Because it is consistency young players, it hits at different times.
He's extremely talented. There's a way you have to perform,
especially with a mantra of compete every day. I mean,
you know, if you're not putting it out there and
you're not doing right every day and if you take
a step back on a Thursday, maybe did great on Wednesday.
On Thursday, I'm not saying he did, but that's gonna
(01:03):
get noticed. And this was an incredibly talented roster. You
have to earn your chance to get out there. It's
not because I was the first overall pick of the
draft or whatever it is. And there's got to be
a consistency. And I will speak to a guy like
Tyler Booker, He's not been perfect he didn't play perfect,
but Tyler Booker has been very, very consistent. You know,
each and every day what you're gonna get from Tyler Booker.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
And okay, I had I know somebody who was down
on the sideline for a game.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Okay, I'll just put it like that.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
And they're not a huge Cowboys fan, but they were
asking me, Hey, what's up with this blue guy? Is
his last name is Blue? He's a running back. I'm like, yeah,
Jaden Blue, he goes. Yeah, I don't think the coach
likes him very much. And I was like, really, why
he goes? Because he was the coach was calling him
an a hole, a stupid a hole, and then it
(01:56):
was like yelling at him for not knowing where he
was supposed to be the play and he just kept
calling him a stupid a hole in front of everyone.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
God, and so I'm like, that's aggressive.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
And I heard that and I was like, I didn't
know what to make of it, and I'm like, Okay,
that's something. And then you start hearing all these other
things come out, especially hearing shoddy right there.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Maybe that's the knock on Jayden Blue.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
To me, this is Glenn Stretch Smith vindicated a little
bit played audio of Stretch taking a just swerve it
over seven podcast over and taking a done What was
that on?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
That was on Don Cowboys?
Speaker 6 (02:30):
Yeah hear it?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Oh yeah? Can I ask a question before a player?
Did your source say that it was shoddy he was
saying that or was it like another coach he said
it was shocking himself.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Okay, Now, I don't know if you have the date
on this, but I remember this band about week one
of July.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Okay, oh before training camp, Okay, right before you it
should be playing now.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
An article that came out from ESPN earlier this week
talking about the top linebackers in the league, in several
NFL coaches said that he's one of the best already
in the.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
End, Sorry, I guess the guy I'm worried about. I'm
already hearing some rumblings out of the building about the
running back that they drafted and him being, you know,
kind of just borderline lazy, not in the building doing
his off season workouts. So maybe he's saying, hey, one
(03:22):
long horn to the other long horn.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Okay, So that's that's the point.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Yeah, he basically was willing to call him lazy. And
then he paused and said.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
Yeah, kind of lazy.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I killed for that too.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, And I don't know how it's true, but I've
heard like whispers of Light, does he know all the plays?
But here's where to me, I would like to say,
it's important for Shoddy to be like that when he's
in year one, you're trying to build something, and especially
when you have two first round draft picks from another
team coming at you now, like it is kind of
a quasi rebuild sort of, even though no one's going
(03:54):
to use that. I get it, and it's probably good
for him to say, you know what, you're not playing
unless you know to do. Also, the margin of error
here between making the playoffs and missing the playoffs is
not you know, there's not a lot there.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
And it's a very easy thing to say that.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
On that one play where Miles Sanders got fetched but
forty four yards and could have been a touchdown. If
it's someone faster, it's very easy to be that's a
touchdown if it's Jaden Blue.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Very easy.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, but it's also way easier to go. You know what,
I got seven or eight plays for Jaden Blue. Let's
take the load off of him. And no, you're not
creating a great habit for him. But it's not like
you're trying to expect Jayden Blue to be your Bell
Kyle running back of the future. Anyways, no one's ever
seen him as that that's possible, So like, why can't
he be a eight to ten play gadget guide? And
(04:42):
here are the plays you have to learn this week.
We need your juice here. And that's what I would
want them to do. But we are talking aboutn organization
that does not prioritize winning.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
I don't want to see Miles Sanders out there, don't
He's slow, especially off the guy. Like I was surprised
yesterday the Eagles made another move. They traded for or
Tank Bigsby. Now, Tank Bigsby was a third round pick
in twenty twenty three. They give up a fifth and
a sixth for him, which I guess is a lot
to give up for a third round pick that's already
got a couple of years.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
He's a couple of years.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
He'll have this year and one more year and then
he's will have a new contract. Right but still, that
would be the number one running back on the Dallas
Cowboys right now. Yeah, But didn't you say that the
Cowboys have a lot of unique running schemes?
Speaker 6 (05:24):
They do.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Now, Okay, so like a guy who doesn't learn the plays,
we're gonna try a bunch of unique running schemes with
him really right now?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
On that play? Yeah, and that play specifically was you
run horizontally and then you go vertically and you're just
following your blocker.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
It's a it's a way less complicated game.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
But I can't tell you how many how many times
someone said, how come this Maverick doesn't play anymore?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I'm like, well, he doesn't know the plays.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Yeah, Like you can't have him on the floor because
you get beat every single time.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
He does no rotations. He doesn't know anything. Would you
have traded for Bigsby kat fifth and sixth? Do I
have my fourth this year?
Speaker 6 (05:58):
At? Already?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Give that away? You still got it, don't you?
Speaker 6 (06:01):
That Mingo?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I think Mingo was the second, wasn't it?
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Probably not just because I think I can get through.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I think because mount love Bigsby either, they have like
I think that was like a warning sign that Saquon
might be falling off a little bit. I think they
just want to protect him, right, But they have two
other good backup running backs, and now they have four
running backs.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Very strange. All right, there you have it, cussing the cowboys,
Come on.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Surprise. Brian Schottenheimer met with the media yesterday and he
was asked about Jayden Blue. Why wasn't Jayden Blue active
(00:26):
last week? Mighty be active this week against the Giants.
Jaydan Blue, for those that don't know, the fifth round
running back from Texas.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
There's a lot of.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Hope that he could be a maybe, if not the starter,
get a lot of work as the second running back.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
And here's what he said.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Because it is consistency young players, it hits at different times.
He's extremely talented. There's a way you have to perform,
especially with a mantra of compete every day. I mean,
you know, if you're not putting it out there and
you're not doing right every day and if you take
a step back on a Thursday, maybe did great on Wednesday.
On Thursday, I'm not saying he did, but that's gonna
(01:03):
get noticed. And this was an incredibly talented roster. You
have to earn your chance to get out there. It's
not because I was the first overall pick of the
draft or whatever it is. And there's got to be
a consistency. And I will speak to a guy like
Tyler Booker, He's not been perfect he didn't play perfect,
but Tyler Booker has been very, very consistent. You know,
each and every day what you're gonna get from Tyler Booker.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
And okay, I had I know somebody who was down
on the sideline for a game.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Okay, I'll just put it like that.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
And they're not a huge Cowboys fan, but they were
asking me, Hey, what's up with this blue guy? Is
his last name is Blue? He's a running back. I'm like, yeah,
Jaden Blue, he goes. Yeah, I don't think the coach
likes him very much. And I was like, really, why
he goes? Because he was the coach was calling him
an a hole, a stupid a hole, and then it
(01:56):
was like yelling at him for not knowing where he
was supposed to be the play and he just kept
calling him a stupid a hole in front of everyone.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
God, and so I'm like, that's aggressive.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
And I heard that and I was like, I didn't
know what to make of it, and I'm like, Okay,
that's something. And then you start hearing all these other
things come out, especially hearing shoddy right there.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Maybe that's the knock on Jayden Blue.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
To me, this is Glenn Stretch Smith vindicated a little
bit played audio of Stretch taking a just swerve it
over seven podcast over and taking a done What was
that on?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
That was on Don Cowboys?
Speaker 6 (02:30):
Yeah hear it?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Oh yeah? Can I ask a question before a player?
Did your source say that it was shoddy he was
saying that or was it like another coach he said
it was shocking himself.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Okay, Now, I don't know if you have the date
on this, but I remember this band about week one
of July.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Okay, oh before training camp, Okay, right before you it
should be playing now.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
An article that came out from ESPN earlier this week
talking about the top linebackers in the league, in several
NFL coaches said that he's one of the best already
in the.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
End, Sorry, I guess the guy I'm worried about. I'm
already hearing some rumblings out of the building about the
running back that they drafted and him being, you know,
kind of just borderline lazy, not in the building doing
his off season workouts. So maybe he's saying, hey, one
(03:22):
long horn to the other long horn.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Okay, So that's that's the point.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Yeah, he basically was willing to call him lazy. And
then he paused and said.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
Yeah, kind of lazy.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I killed for that too.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, And I don't know how it's true, but I've
heard like whispers of Light, does he know all the plays?
But here's where to me, I would like to say,
it's important for Shoddy to be like that when he's
in year one, you're trying to build something, and especially
when you have two first round draft picks from another
team coming at you now, like it is kind of
a quasi rebuild sort of, even though no one's going
(03:54):
to use that. I get it, and it's probably good
for him to say, you know what, you're not playing
unless you know to do. Also, the margin of error
here between making the playoffs and missing the playoffs is
not you know, there's not a lot there.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
And it's a very easy thing to say that.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
On that one play where Miles Sanders got fetched but
forty four yards and could have been a touchdown. If
it's someone faster, it's very easy to be that's a
touchdown if it's Jaden Blue.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Very easy.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, but it's also way easier to go. You know what,
I got seven or eight plays for Jaden Blue. Let's
take the load off of him. And no, you're not
creating a great habit for him. But it's not like
you're trying to expect Jayden Blue to be your Bell
Kyle running back of the future. Anyways, no one's ever
seen him as that that's possible, So like, why can't
he be a eight to ten play gadget guide? And
(04:42):
here are the plays you have to learn this week.
We need your juice here. And that's what I would
want them to do. But we are talking aboutn organization
that does not prioritize winning.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
I don't want to see Miles Sanders out there, don't
He's slow, especially off the guy. Like I was surprised
yesterday the Eagles made another move. They traded for or
Tank Bigsby. Now, Tank Bigsby was a third round pick
in twenty twenty three. They give up a fifth and
a sixth for him, which I guess is a lot
to give up for a third round pick that's already
got a couple of years.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
He's a couple of years.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
He'll have this year and one more year and then
he's will have a new contract. Right but still, that
would be the number one running back on the Dallas
Cowboys right now. Yeah, But didn't you say that the
Cowboys have a lot of unique running schemes?
Speaker 6 (05:24):
They do.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Now, Okay, so like a guy who doesn't learn the plays,
we're gonna try a bunch of unique running schemes with
him really right now?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
On that play? Yeah, and that play specifically was you
run horizontally and then you go vertically and you're just
following your blocker.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
It's a it's a way less complicated game.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
But I can't tell you how many how many times
someone said, how come this Maverick doesn't play anymore?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I'm like, well, he doesn't know the plays.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Yeah, Like you can't have him on the floor because
you get beat every single time.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
He does no rotations. He doesn't know anything. Would you
have traded for Bigsby kat fifth and sixth? Do I
have my fourth this year?
Speaker 6 (05:58):
At? Already?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Give that away? You still got it, don't you?
Speaker 6 (06:01):
That Mingo?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I think Mingo was the second, wasn't it?
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Probably not just because I think I can get through.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I think because mount love Bigsby either, they have like
I think that was like a warning sign that Saquon
might be falling off a little bit. I think they
just want to protect him, right, But they have two
other good backup running backs, and now they have four
running backs.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Very strange. All right, there you have it, cussing the cowboys,
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