July 21, 2025 • 7 mins
"What drives the world’s best golfer when winning only feels good for two minutes?"In this introspective yet wildly entertaining episode of The Ben and Skin Show, hosts Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray dive deep into the mind of Scottie Scheffler, the DFW native who just claimed his fourth major title at the British Open—joining the ranks of legends like Tiger Woods, Jack Nicklaus, and Gary Player.But this isn’t just a sports recap. It’s a philosophical journey through fame, fulfillment, and Chipotle.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ben and Skin Show ninety seven point one The Eagle
Don't forget sometime during the show, Volbeat Helstorm tickets come
in your way. They're performing next Monday at Toyota Music Factory.
One lucky winner this week is going to get a
meet and greet with the band, So hang out for that.
Don't go anywhere. If you have the iHeart app you
will have a chance to win. Be listening. But right
now it's time for this.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Now it is around the sports KTD twins as all
the sports.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yes, all right, so I want to play audio from
Wednesday first before you dive into this. But just so
you know, Scotti Scheffer, if you don't know the name,
is the number one golfer in the world. He went
to the University of Texas. He lives here in DFW,
right over by near SMU. Yeah, I grew up here,
grew up here. But here is Wednesdays at the British Open,
(00:52):
just meeting the press before the golf tournament starts.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I'm not here to inspire somebody else to be the
best player in the world, because what's the point. You know,
this is not a fulfilling life. It's fulfilling from the
sense of accomplishment, but it's not fulfilling from a sense
of like the deepest places of your heart, you know,
what is the point? You're like, why do I want
to win this tournament so bad? That's something that I
wrestle with on a daily basis. It's like, if I win,
it's gonna be awesome for about two minutes. You know,
(01:16):
I'm kind of sick of I love putting in the work,
I love being able to practice, I love getting out
to live out my dreams. But at the end of
the day, sometimes I just don't understand the point. I
don't know if I'm making any sense or not, but
am I not?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
So the interesting thing about that clip is it went around,
but the back half of it where he's laughing, did
not go around, of course. Just the front half of it,
where it sounds like he's having inexistential crisis is what
went around and led into the week.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
So after round one he even said, Look, he gets
asked about it, He's like, man, I don't know. I
was just gonna ramble in a press conference. Don't think
too much. He's a simple guy. It's why I shocked
the world when he got arrested at the Pghabienship last year,
which turned out he did nothing wrong.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
So he goes and dominates the British Open. He wins
his fourth major.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
For scale, we should say that Jack Nichols has won
the most majors eighteen, Tiger Woods has won fifteen, so
a long way to go. But Scotty is the number
one player in the world and he is contending every
week no matter what.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
And you should also say for contact KT only four
people in the history of golf have won four majors
before the age of thirty, and it's Nicholas, Tiger, Gary Player,
and now Scotty Scheffler of Dallas.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
It took Tiger eleven hundred and ninety seven days to
win his first four majors. And that's how long, exactly
to the day that it took Scotty Scheffer to win
his first four majors. Now, Tiger came on the scene
as an eighteen year old and won the Masters and
blew everyone out and had the flair Scotty does not
have that. John Daly had more flair, you know, and
(02:53):
John Daly won one major. I believe Rory had more flair.
And Rory's got more highs and lows. Bryceon de Sham
has more flair. Scotti Shuffler is so solid. I think
a good comparison to him that I've heard kind of
going around is Tim Duncan. He's very great.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I hadn't heard that.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
So age wise, Tiger got there in that many days,
but he was significantly younger when he got us fourth.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
How'm that younger?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Oh, I'll see Tiger four years. Yeah, Tiger would have
been probably twenty two or twenty three. Scotty's twenty nine.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
But more than that, let's say Scotty has a healthier,
you know, backside of his thirties or into his thirties
than Tiger had because Tiger fell apart.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, it also sounds like, based on that quote, he
didn't have to keep doing this, so at any point
he feels like he's got enough money, he's accomplished a
month enough, he can just go do whatever he wants.
He didn't even have to keep playing golf.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
As a fairly competitive person at times, I have some
frustrations with some things that happened this weekend, including Rory
McElroy was playing in a tournament an hour from his hometown,
and he was definitely contending he had the crowd on
his side on Saturday. And after the round, he goes,
I think my mindset would have been different if I
hadn't one of the masters. But I was just kind
(04:06):
of trying to enjoy the round today. And I'm going,
what so, no one's going to try to go slay
the dragon tomorrow? Is what I'm what I'm hearing here?
Why did I wake up at four am all weekend
to watch this?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Can I play? You guys at Jordan Speed quote from
this weekend where he's talking about Scotty. Yeah, so Jordan
Speed grew up around Scotty, right, they're in the same circles.
This is Jordan Speed talking about what you were just
talking about, Ben, What what makes Scotty take?
Speaker 5 (04:32):
And he's plus the golf swing. I think it's more
of his personality. He doesn't care to be a superstar.
He's not transcending the game like Target did. He's not
bringing it to non golf audience necessarily. He doesn't want
to go do you know the stuff that you know
a lot of us go do corporately anything like that.
(04:52):
He's he just wants to get away from the game
and separate the two because I know that he you know,
at one time felt that he was to much. He's
taking it with him and you know, whenever he made
this switch, I don't know when it was, but you know,
he has hobbies, you know, he's he's he's always with
his family either always doing this stuff. So I think
(05:12):
it's more so the difference in personality from any other
superstar that you've seen in the modern era, maybe any sport.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
That clip was accompanied with a tweet. They've talked about
how Ricky Fowler has like twenty eight days out of
the year that he's doing corporate sponsorship stuff, and that
Scotty Scheffler may do too.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
And he used to be super angry guy, but he's
Caddy Ted came through. I gotta play this. We'll go
a minute later.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Here, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
This is Scotty after winning the tournament, just juxtaposing Wednesday.
Here is after the tournament.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
But I don't identify myself by winning tournaments, chasing trophies,
being famous or whatever.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
It is.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Like when I go home, if I go to it,
there's two chipotles that I eat at at home, there's one, well,
actually not really want anymore. There's one right where I
grew up. It's kind of here's campus. If I was
to go to that Chipotle and try to eat nowadays,
it would be very difficult for me.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I'm assuming that's the one on Lovers right there. I'm
assuming there.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
There's another one in a different part of town that
I'm not going to tell you where it is. But
if I go there, nobody recognizes me.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Ever.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Right now, I'm the best player in the world. This week,
I was the best player in the world. We're gonna
start all over in Memphis, you know, back to even
Parr the show goes on. I don't feel any different
because I've won a golf tournament. This is not the
be all end all for me, but I'm extremely grateful
for it.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Pretty awesome, man. Actually, I'm not figure out that Chipotle
he goes to. His wife would love to run in discussion.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
He's dying to talk to people there. You know what, though,
he's got good perspective. He's not anti golf. He was
talking about this is all I ever wanted to do.
I wore long pants to the course as a kid,
and nobody made fun of me because I wanted to
be a pro. But he's doing what he always wanted
to do. But he doesn't let him define him and
he doesn't care about being famous.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Man, that is.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Awesome, awesome stuff. Maybe the greatest pro and DFW history maybe.
All right, Coming up next, what's going on in Dallas?
A prosper man is injured in the Bahamas. We've got
the story next
Ben and Skin Show ninety seven point one The Eagle
Don't forget sometime during the show, Volbeat Helstorm tickets come
in your way. They're performing next Monday at Toyota Music Factory.
One lucky winner this week is going to get a
meet and greet with the band, So hang out for that.
Don't go anywhere. If you have the iHeart app you
will have a chance to win. Be listening. But right
now it's time for this.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Now it is around the sports KTD twins as all
the sports.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yes, all right, so I want to play audio from
Wednesday first before you dive into this. But just so
you know, Scotti Scheffer, if you don't know the name,
is the number one golfer in the world. He went
to the University of Texas. He lives here in DFW,
right over by near SMU. Yeah, I grew up here,
grew up here. But here is Wednesdays at the British Open,
(00:52):
just meeting the press before the golf tournament starts.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I'm not here to inspire somebody else to be the
best player in the world, because what's the point. You know,
this is not a fulfilling life. It's fulfilling from the
sense of accomplishment, but it's not fulfilling from a sense
of like the deepest places of your heart, you know,
what is the point? You're like, why do I want
to win this tournament so bad? That's something that I
wrestle with on a daily basis. It's like, if I win,
it's gonna be awesome for about two minutes. You know,
(01:16):
I'm kind of sick of I love putting in the work,
I love being able to practice, I love getting out
to live out my dreams. But at the end of
the day, sometimes I just don't understand the point. I
don't know if I'm making any sense or not, but
am I not?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
So the interesting thing about that clip is it went around,
but the back half of it where he's laughing, did
not go around, of course. Just the front half of it,
where it sounds like he's having inexistential crisis is what
went around and led into the week.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
So after round one he even said, Look, he gets
asked about it, He's like, man, I don't know. I
was just gonna ramble in a press conference. Don't think
too much. He's a simple guy. It's why I shocked
the world when he got arrested at the Pghabienship last year,
which turned out he did nothing wrong.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
So he goes and dominates the British Open. He wins
his fourth major.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
For scale, we should say that Jack Nichols has won
the most majors eighteen, Tiger Woods has won fifteen, so
a long way to go. But Scotty is the number
one player in the world and he is contending every
week no matter what.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
And you should also say for contact KT only four
people in the history of golf have won four majors
before the age of thirty, and it's Nicholas, Tiger, Gary Player,
and now Scotty Scheffler of Dallas.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
It took Tiger eleven hundred and ninety seven days to
win his first four majors. And that's how long, exactly
to the day that it took Scotty Scheffer to win
his first four majors. Now, Tiger came on the scene
as an eighteen year old and won the Masters and
blew everyone out and had the flair Scotty does not
have that. John Daly had more flair, you know, and
(02:53):
John Daly won one major. I believe Rory had more flair.
And Rory's got more highs and lows. Bryceon de Sham
has more flair. Scotti Shuffler is so solid. I think
a good comparison to him that I've heard kind of
going around is Tim Duncan. He's very great.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I hadn't heard that.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
So age wise, Tiger got there in that many days,
but he was significantly younger when he got us fourth.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
How'm that younger?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Oh, I'll see Tiger four years. Yeah, Tiger would have
been probably twenty two or twenty three. Scotty's twenty nine.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
But more than that, let's say Scotty has a healthier,
you know, backside of his thirties or into his thirties
than Tiger had because Tiger fell apart.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, it also sounds like, based on that quote, he
didn't have to keep doing this, so at any point
he feels like he's got enough money, he's accomplished a
month enough, he can just go do whatever he wants.
He didn't even have to keep playing golf.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
As a fairly competitive person at times, I have some
frustrations with some things that happened this weekend, including Rory
McElroy was playing in a tournament an hour from his hometown,
and he was definitely contending he had the crowd on
his side on Saturday. And after the round, he goes,
I think my mindset would have been different if I
hadn't one of the masters. But I was just kind
(04:06):
of trying to enjoy the round today. And I'm going,
what so, no one's going to try to go slay
the dragon tomorrow? Is what I'm what I'm hearing here?
Why did I wake up at four am all weekend
to watch this?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Can I play? You guys at Jordan Speed quote from
this weekend where he's talking about Scotty. Yeah, so Jordan
Speed grew up around Scotty, right, they're in the same circles.
This is Jordan Speed talking about what you were just
talking about, Ben, What what makes Scotty take?
Speaker 5 (04:32):
And he's plus the golf swing. I think it's more
of his personality. He doesn't care to be a superstar.
He's not transcending the game like Target did. He's not
bringing it to non golf audience necessarily. He doesn't want
to go do you know the stuff that you know
a lot of us go do corporately anything like that.
(04:52):
He's he just wants to get away from the game
and separate the two because I know that he you know,
at one time felt that he was to much. He's
taking it with him and you know, whenever he made
this switch, I don't know when it was, but you know,
he has hobbies, you know, he's he's he's always with
his family either always doing this stuff. So I think
(05:12):
it's more so the difference in personality from any other
superstar that you've seen in the modern era, maybe any sport.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
That clip was accompanied with a tweet. They've talked about
how Ricky Fowler has like twenty eight days out of
the year that he's doing corporate sponsorship stuff, and that
Scotty Scheffler may do too.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
And he used to be super angry guy, but he's
Caddy Ted came through. I gotta play this. We'll go
a minute later.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Here, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
This is Scotty after winning the tournament, just juxtaposing Wednesday.
Here is after the tournament.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
But I don't identify myself by winning tournaments, chasing trophies,
being famous or whatever.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
It is.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Like when I go home, if I go to it,
there's two chipotles that I eat at at home, there's one, well,
actually not really want anymore. There's one right where I
grew up. It's kind of here's campus. If I was
to go to that Chipotle and try to eat nowadays,
it would be very difficult for me.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I'm assuming that's the one on Lovers right there. I'm
assuming there.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
There's another one in a different part of town that
I'm not going to tell you where it is. But
if I go there, nobody recognizes me.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Ever.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Right now, I'm the best player in the world. This week,
I was the best player in the world. We're gonna
start all over in Memphis, you know, back to even
Parr the show goes on. I don't feel any different
because I've won a golf tournament. This is not the
be all end all for me, but I'm extremely grateful
for it.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Pretty awesome, man. Actually, I'm not figure out that Chipotle
he goes to. His wife would love to run in discussion.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
He's dying to talk to people there. You know what, though,
he's got good perspective. He's not anti golf. He was
talking about this is all I ever wanted to do.
I wore long pants to the course as a kid,
and nobody made fun of me because I wanted to
be a pro. But he's doing what he always wanted
to do. But he doesn't let him define him and
he doesn't care about being famous.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Man, that is.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Awesome, awesome stuff. Maybe the greatest pro and DFW history maybe.
All right, Coming up next, what's going on in Dallas?
A prosper man is injured in the Bahamas. We've got
the story next
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