September 29, 2025 • 14 mins
"How do you process a tie?" That was the first question thrown at Jerry Jones after a wild Cowboys-Packers showdown that ended in a head-scratching draw. In this episode of The Ben and Skin Show, Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray dive deep into the chaos, comedy, and controversy surrounding the game—and trust us, it’s a ride.From Jerry Jones’ cryptic comments about Micah Parsons (“He wasn’t indispensable”) to the clock operator reveal that had everyone wondering if Jerry Jr. was secretly running the show, this episode is packed with unforgettable moments. KT drops the money clip that sets the tone, and the crew dissects Jerry’s bizarre logic, his media spin, and the implications of his comments on team chemistry.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Now it's around the sports KTD twins as all the sports.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Y I know, you guys after the game, and I've
been you had a drive home from the stadium stagium,
and I don't know that just getting Christina you have
a tie, I'm just kind of wondering, like, what do
you do now? Because I need to I need some
type of conclusion to my evening.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
You know, it's a bad rule to have. Was this
part of the negotiation when they went to seventeen games? Players,
players are like, we're not going to do double overtime.
It's too to We're risking injury.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I mean for years it's been no double over two.
Really Oh yeah, well, it's just so stupid. Why should
anything in and a tie? Like learn something from soccer,
you know, go to penalty kicks. I like the idea
of getting both kickers out there and seeing whoever can
hit the longest field goal that team wins.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Oh yeah, advantage Cowboys. Now, I like that for us
a lot.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I always thought the best way to do it was
to put a football at the fifty and have the
other team starting center on the opposite goal line, and
they run full speed and the first guy to get
control of the ball, his team wins.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
That's pretty fun.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
The old overtime rules which were kind of slanted, you know,
it's like whoever got the ball first had a huge advantage. Yeah,
changed that fine, and then they changed it till you
have to score a touchdown to end it. But that's
the reason why we used to not have ties because
it was so unbalanced.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
It's amazing when you watch college football game go to overtime,
how much cooler their games are. It's wild, Like you
could move the ball back if you want to, and
put the ball at the fifty I think, or the
other team's forty and just had it like that, and
college makes you on the second overtime. In college you
have to go for two to make sure those games
aren't going long into the night anymore. It rarely happens,
(01:59):
but it's like, just do that. No, it seems pretty
simple to do that, but whatever, it is very strange.
That was the first question Jerry was asked, how do
you process a tie.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
When he didn't lose?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
How do you get the hub better than I could
have felt. It's like they ask you some one stakes
rule about where your residence is. It's where you go
when you've been away, Well, I feel better than I
could have felt, okay, but worse than I could have
felt as well.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
I don't understand that was not analogous at all.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I mean, I will give him this, like I was
expecting them to get destroyed, and so maybe he kind
of thought the same thing.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Maybe he thought they would get killed.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
You're right, I think going into that thing, if you
told Jerry Jones, hey, you're going to come out with
a tie, and Micah Parsons is not going to have
some splash play that changed the game, he would have
taken that. Yeah, a thousand times over a thousand, But
I think I think he did have that play. That
tackle of Dak saved a touchdown? Right, wasn't that over time?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yeah? It was overtime. Yeah, that's basically saves the game. Huge.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
It was a huge play. But I'm also kind of
with Katie. I don't think Dak would have gotten in there.
I think they would have gotten down to the one
or two and then they would have had a decision
are we going to go for it on fourth?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
I think he would have got in.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I think he saved the game with that tackle, which
I didn't want him to have a game saving play
or game breaking play, but I expected it to be
I expected him to have five sacks. Yeah, I expected
him to blow up the game and he didn't do that.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah, they think cow was going a good job of
preventing that. Also, at the end of the game, the
Packers mismanaged the clock and we're just kind of farting
around and just retired. There's a lot of bad stuff
that they need to get figured out. But they nearly
lose the game by throwing the ball into the end
zone and the clock stops at one second, which I
couldn't believe it, and on the road click that thing off.
(03:48):
We learned something about the clock operator last night that
I did not know, and it makes it even more
shocking that they didn't just run that clock off.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
It was Jerry Jr.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Jerry, you were sitting right beside Jerry's It wasn't him,
but it was, well you have there.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Where you thought, oh yes, oh yeah, we said we
won the game. Wee John Temple scept we want this game.
The time is out.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Okay, I'm waiting to leave that in. Who is that?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I think it's Mike Silver of the Athletic because here's
he makes a lot of wild noises.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
In this thing. Why is he like part of the
story here? It's very strange.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
Wee John Temple scept we want this game, they have
time is out.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
You had a better clock man up there.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Well, it's my don't get into that table mine?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Okay, so skin wasn't far off. Yeah, son in law,
I'm guessing he said. He starts to say it's my son,
and they stopped. Oh my god, right, well it's my.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Don't get into that well table mine relative.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
I know, are we thinking Shia There's no way, but
he said, he said, but silver new he said, was.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
That head to him because he screwed this up? Okay,
that's not thattive is how about da?
Speaker 6 (05:23):
I mean you pay him a lot of money too.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
And the media small talk was great. So, yeah, there's
your Jerry audio. You had a quote which let's get
into that next.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Do you want to do that big quote next? Yeah?
I think we probably probably should.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
All right, coming up next, we'll keep the cowboy conversation
going and what Jerry had to say about Micah Parsons
after the fact, we'll do that all right here on
ninety some.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Point one to eat Man.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Ted Cruz does a lot of character voices apparently, and
we'll get into that in the bubble Bath at the
end of this hour. Ted cru is making funny voices.
But look, we have at some point in the show
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(06:10):
kinds of other stuff.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Plus you can stream this download. You need to have
that app. All right.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
We're listening to some audio of Jerry after the game
last night, and boy, kt, I think this one you
have here is probably the money clip.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yes, discussing you know, the trade still because he got
asked a lot about Micah after the game last night.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
It's very simple, right, Doc was indispensable in my mind
right now, and so yes, and Michael wasn't.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
It's very so yeah, all right.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
The there's so many problems with this, but my main
problem with it is he could have said that during
the week if he wanted to, then he had a
whole TV presentation that they pretty much wove into Kickoff
on NBC on a Sunday night that they turned into
any film, which he could have said that. So he
(07:02):
waited until they got out of there. And they're likely
not going to see him for a year at the most,
if maybe they'll see him in the playoffs. It seems
unlikely to publicly say Micah wasn't indispensable.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
It seems like that was.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Real, unnecessary and real in my opinion, real, Hey, look
how glorious it was that Micah didn't kill us.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
I'll go say this now.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah, but I thought he stirred it up all week
and said things he didn't need to be saying, Like
I'm like, I don't understand why he said the things
he said leading into this game, like he was poking
the bear and it didn't end up costing him, which
is great. But the thing that I have a problem
with with all this is the idea that, yeah, man,
we we wanted Micah. We were willing to pay him
forty two forty three million a year, but as soon
(07:45):
as you get to forty seven, we can't do that, Like,
we can't pay him forty seven, you can't like like
you know, he's dispensable at that point, but at forty three, yeah,
we need him, Like I don't understand that.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
His comment earlier in the week about how they hadn't
won any Super Bowls with Micah, It's like, Okay, you
just took a shot at every player you've ever had over.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
The last thirty years.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I mean without saying it, because that's you know, again,
the spend control on this thing has been terrible from
the from the get go, because it was handled poorly
from the beginning.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
They were gonna sign it, you know whatever he says.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
We've definitely on our way past the point of taking
what he says seriously because it's just not it's either
not accurate or it's some form of him trying to
protect some narrative that he's created.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
He's living the documentary. It's what's happening Micah.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Though in general eight pressures on the game, he gets
credit for a sack that was a stat move from
the statisticians call from.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
The press box.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Trico said later he circled back on that. He said,
that's not a statistician's called it. If you if you
get the quarterback, and he gets back to the line
of scrimmage.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
As long as you do game yard, it's a sack,
sack or no sack. Micah.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Just seeing people tweet out stuff of it today, Michael
was actually good. It was like winning pretty much every time,
but once the last time the Cowboys have without ceed Lamb,
without two starting offensive linemen gone in and just won
a game or played that well and stayed in a game.
Usually these games aren't competitive over the years, right when
they're down that many people, So for them to get
(09:21):
a tie is a win.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yeah, it does. I have it is Jeckyll Hyde.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I have supreme confidence in the offense, in the coaching,
in the scheme, and I have no confidence in the defense,
not the players, not the coaching, not the scheme, not
the strategy.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
And it's kind of like the Rangers. The Rangers are all.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Pitching this year, right, yeah, and usually they're all offense
and they can't get any pitching. And here we are
with the Cowboys, where you have one of the best
quarterbacks in the world and he's playing at such a
high level, and you're gonna waste it because your defense
is so bad, because your scheme's bad, because you've missed
on so many draft picks. It does feel like Dak
is living the full Romo experience. You're playing at such
(10:05):
a high level, but the rest of your team cannot
play at that level, so sorry, you are not going
to win.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
To me, it comes down to one thing. Because their
offense is really good. I mean, think about what they
were down last night and they put up forty points
on the Packers. And obviously I don't think any of
us imagine the run game would be this good.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
But is for all season long.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
It's going to come down to turnovers and splash plays,
and if they do not block that kick, they lose
by eleven to fourteen. Last night, that changed everything. Not
only did it give them two points and take a
point away from Green Bay, then they got to follow
that up by getting the ball. Then they scored a touchdown,
and then they had the game's only turnover. If you
(10:47):
go look in the first three games, the main reason
the Cowboys lost those games. I mean, obviously the defense
is terrible, but it was the turnovers and when it happened,
and then they're playing from behind and they can't get
a stop right So the only way you can change
that is with a turnover or a splash play or
something like that.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
They weren't getting any of them.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
They got the ones last night, and they had to
be damned near perfect offensively from about the second quarter on,
which they pretty much And that's the only way they
can stay in games because their defense is so bad.
But they can't lose the turnover battle and win a game.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
They just can't.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I was talking to somebody who was in the know,
and I was like, what do you think's going on
with this defense? And he said, man, I just think
there's guys that aren't buying in that's problematic.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
And I'm like, what does that mean exactly? Like, what
does that mean?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
They don't like Eberflus, they don't like the scheme, they
don't believe in this.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Like did you read the Calvin Watkins Mike apiece from
two days ago?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
I doubt it.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Calvin Watkins, you know a lot of big athletic and
all these have all done these pieces about what happened
with Mike and all this stuff. The thing that really
stood out to me about Calvin's piece was how much
all the guys that are still in the defense talk to.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Him and love him. Yeah, and so you.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Know, when we start getting into this idea of buying
and all this stuff. That's an abstract thing, right, it
would have to be like Ben saying, someone that's in
the know, that's connected to people. But as soon as
you said that, that's the first thing I thought of.
It's kind of like, you know, on some degree, the
Mavericks trading Luca or whatever, and how that's going to
impact certain people on the team. There's gonna be other
(12:31):
guys are gonna be like, oh, great, this is an
opportunity for me to step up. But if like, if
you're part of a crew or a bunker and they
disrupt that at the point that they disrupt it, whatever
you want to call it, social trauma, those things do happen,
and if all those guys are still feeling there, like
like the best example that is Trayvon Diggs.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Yeah, I thought about Trayvon Diggs when he told me that,
because if there's if you look at the beginning of
the game, Dak's giving a pep talk, the whole team's there.
Travon Diggs is not in the circle.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, but they you know, so, like I agree, and
Trayvon's always kind of like that, and he was bench
last well he was not starting last night, but also
Turpin was also a way outside.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
But okay, okay, now I know, but go go back, like,
just think about these plays that you've seen where it
looks like, hey, is that guy playing a different defense
than everybody?
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Trayvon Diggs is in the middle of everyone.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
He also had an interception for you last night, but
you had twelve men on the field, right, I mean,
is he as bad as we're saying, like, it's not
like he's not trying.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
There I could show you seven plays where it looked
like he wasn't trying.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Okay, well he got your interceptions.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
If you want his turnovers or not, maybe don't run
him over before the season starts, Like that's wrong to do.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
But I think I'm just bringing it up within the
contextuff guy's not buying in right, Okay.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
That's who I go to I think of him. Yeah,
all right, there you have it. We'll get back into
the game coming up at five o'clock. Coming up next,
it's the audio bubble bath more Ted cruz impersonations for
us to laugh about. That's coming up next.
Now it's around the sports KTD twins as all the sports.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Y I know, you guys after the game, and I've
been you had a drive home from the stadium stagium,
and I don't know that just getting Christina you have
a tie, I'm just kind of wondering, like, what do
you do now? Because I need to I need some
type of conclusion to my evening.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
You know, it's a bad rule to have. Was this
part of the negotiation when they went to seventeen games? Players,
players are like, we're not going to do double overtime.
It's too to We're risking injury.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I mean for years it's been no double over two.
Really Oh yeah, well, it's just so stupid. Why should
anything in and a tie? Like learn something from soccer,
you know, go to penalty kicks. I like the idea
of getting both kickers out there and seeing whoever can
hit the longest field goal that team wins.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Oh yeah, advantage Cowboys. Now, I like that for us
a lot.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I always thought the best way to do it was
to put a football at the fifty and have the
other team starting center on the opposite goal line, and
they run full speed and the first guy to get
control of the ball, his team wins.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
That's pretty fun.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
The old overtime rules which were kind of slanted, you know,
it's like whoever got the ball first had a huge advantage. Yeah,
changed that fine, and then they changed it till you
have to score a touchdown to end it. But that's
the reason why we used to not have ties because
it was so unbalanced.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
It's amazing when you watch college football game go to overtime,
how much cooler their games are. It's wild, Like you
could move the ball back if you want to, and
put the ball at the fifty I think, or the
other team's forty and just had it like that, and
college makes you on the second overtime. In college you
have to go for two to make sure those games
aren't going long into the night anymore. It rarely happens,
(01:59):
but it's like, just do that. No, it seems pretty
simple to do that, but whatever, it is very strange.
That was the first question Jerry was asked, how do
you process a tie.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
When he didn't lose?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
How do you get the hub better than I could
have felt. It's like they ask you some one stakes
rule about where your residence is. It's where you go
when you've been away, Well, I feel better than I
could have felt, okay, but worse than I could have
felt as well.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
I don't understand that was not analogous at all.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I mean, I will give him this, like I was
expecting them to get destroyed, and so maybe he kind
of thought the same thing.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Maybe he thought they would get killed.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
You're right, I think going into that thing, if you
told Jerry Jones, hey, you're going to come out with
a tie, and Micah Parsons is not going to have
some splash play that changed the game, he would have
taken that. Yeah, a thousand times over a thousand, But
I think I think he did have that play. That
tackle of Dak saved a touchdown? Right, wasn't that over time?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yeah? It was overtime. Yeah, that's basically saves the game. Huge.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
It was a huge play. But I'm also kind of
with Katie. I don't think Dak would have gotten in there.
I think they would have gotten down to the one
or two and then they would have had a decision
are we going to go for it on fourth?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
I think he would have got in.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I think he saved the game with that tackle, which
I didn't want him to have a game saving play
or game breaking play, but I expected it to be
I expected him to have five sacks. Yeah, I expected
him to blow up the game and he didn't do that.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah, they think cow was going a good job of
preventing that. Also, at the end of the game, the
Packers mismanaged the clock and we're just kind of farting
around and just retired. There's a lot of bad stuff
that they need to get figured out. But they nearly
lose the game by throwing the ball into the end
zone and the clock stops at one second, which I
couldn't believe it, and on the road click that thing off.
(03:48):
We learned something about the clock operator last night that
I did not know, and it makes it even more
shocking that they didn't just run that clock off.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
It was Jerry Jr.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Jerry, you were sitting right beside Jerry's It wasn't him,
but it was, well you have there.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Where you thought, oh yes, oh yeah, we said we
won the game. Wee John Temple scept we want this game.
The time is out.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Okay, I'm waiting to leave that in. Who is that?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I think it's Mike Silver of the Athletic because here's
he makes a lot of wild noises.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
In this thing. Why is he like part of the
story here? It's very strange.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
Wee John Temple scept we want this game, they have
time is out.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
You had a better clock man up there.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Well, it's my don't get into that table mine?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Okay, so skin wasn't far off. Yeah, son in law,
I'm guessing he said. He starts to say it's my son,
and they stopped. Oh my god, right, well it's my.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Don't get into that well table mine relative.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
I know, are we thinking Shia There's no way, but
he said, he said, but silver new he said, was.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
That head to him because he screwed this up? Okay,
that's not thattive is how about da?
Speaker 6 (05:23):
I mean you pay him a lot of money too.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
And the media small talk was great. So, yeah, there's
your Jerry audio. You had a quote which let's get
into that next.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Do you want to do that big quote next? Yeah?
I think we probably probably should.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
All right, coming up next, we'll keep the cowboy conversation
going and what Jerry had to say about Micah Parsons
after the fact, we'll do that all right here on
ninety some.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Point one to eat Man.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Ted Cruz does a lot of character voices apparently, and
we'll get into that in the bubble Bath at the
end of this hour. Ted cru is making funny voices.
But look, we have at some point in the show
we're gonna giveway mud Vein tickets. You have to have
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(06:10):
kinds of other stuff.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Plus you can stream this download. You need to have
that app. All right.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
We're listening to some audio of Jerry after the game
last night, and boy, kt, I think this one you
have here is probably the money clip.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yes, discussing you know, the trade still because he got
asked a lot about Micah after the game last night.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
It's very simple, right, Doc was indispensable in my mind
right now, and so yes, and Michael wasn't.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
It's very so yeah, all right.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
The there's so many problems with this, but my main
problem with it is he could have said that during
the week if he wanted to, then he had a
whole TV presentation that they pretty much wove into Kickoff
on NBC on a Sunday night that they turned into
any film, which he could have said that. So he
(07:02):
waited until they got out of there. And they're likely
not going to see him for a year at the most,
if maybe they'll see him in the playoffs. It seems
unlikely to publicly say Micah wasn't indispensable.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
It seems like that was.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Real, unnecessary and real in my opinion, real, Hey, look
how glorious it was that Micah didn't kill us.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
I'll go say this now.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah, but I thought he stirred it up all week
and said things he didn't need to be saying, Like
I'm like, I don't understand why he said the things
he said leading into this game, like he was poking
the bear and it didn't end up costing him, which
is great. But the thing that I have a problem
with with all this is the idea that, yeah, man,
we we wanted Micah. We were willing to pay him
forty two forty three million a year, but as soon
(07:45):
as you get to forty seven, we can't do that, Like,
we can't pay him forty seven, you can't like like
you know, he's dispensable at that point, but at forty three, yeah,
we need him, Like I don't understand that.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
His comment earlier in the week about how they hadn't
won any Super Bowls with Micah, It's like, Okay, you
just took a shot at every player you've ever had over.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
The last thirty years.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I mean without saying it, because that's you know, again,
the spend control on this thing has been terrible from
the from the get go, because it was handled poorly
from the beginning.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
They were gonna sign it, you know whatever he says.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
We've definitely on our way past the point of taking
what he says seriously because it's just not it's either
not accurate or it's some form of him trying to
protect some narrative that he's created.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
He's living the documentary. It's what's happening Micah.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Though in general eight pressures on the game, he gets
credit for a sack that was a stat move from
the statisticians call from.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
The press box.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Trico said later he circled back on that. He said,
that's not a statistician's called it. If you if you
get the quarterback, and he gets back to the line
of scrimmage.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
As long as you do game yard, it's a sack,
sack or no sack. Micah.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Just seeing people tweet out stuff of it today, Michael
was actually good. It was like winning pretty much every time,
but once the last time the Cowboys have without ceed Lamb,
without two starting offensive linemen gone in and just won
a game or played that well and stayed in a game.
Usually these games aren't competitive over the years, right when
they're down that many people, So for them to get
(09:21):
a tie is a win.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yeah, it does. I have it is Jeckyll Hyde.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I have supreme confidence in the offense, in the coaching,
in the scheme, and I have no confidence in the defense,
not the players, not the coaching, not the scheme, not
the strategy.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
And it's kind of like the Rangers. The Rangers are all.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Pitching this year, right, yeah, and usually they're all offense
and they can't get any pitching. And here we are
with the Cowboys, where you have one of the best
quarterbacks in the world and he's playing at such a
high level, and you're gonna waste it because your defense
is so bad, because your scheme's bad, because you've missed
on so many draft picks. It does feel like Dak
is living the full Romo experience. You're playing at such
(10:05):
a high level, but the rest of your team cannot
play at that level, so sorry, you are not going
to win.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
To me, it comes down to one thing. Because their
offense is really good. I mean, think about what they
were down last night and they put up forty points
on the Packers. And obviously I don't think any of
us imagine the run game would be this good.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
But is for all season long.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
It's going to come down to turnovers and splash plays,
and if they do not block that kick, they lose
by eleven to fourteen. Last night, that changed everything. Not
only did it give them two points and take a
point away from Green Bay, then they got to follow
that up by getting the ball. Then they scored a touchdown,
and then they had the game's only turnover. If you
(10:47):
go look in the first three games, the main reason
the Cowboys lost those games. I mean, obviously the defense
is terrible, but it was the turnovers and when it happened,
and then they're playing from behind and they can't get
a stop right So the only way you can change
that is with a turnover or a splash play or
something like that.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
They weren't getting any of them.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
They got the ones last night, and they had to
be damned near perfect offensively from about the second quarter on,
which they pretty much And that's the only way they
can stay in games because their defense is so bad.
But they can't lose the turnover battle and win a game.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
They just can't.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I was talking to somebody who was in the know,
and I was like, what do you think's going on
with this defense? And he said, man, I just think
there's guys that aren't buying in that's problematic.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
And I'm like, what does that mean exactly? Like, what
does that mean?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
They don't like Eberflus, they don't like the scheme, they
don't believe in this.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Like did you read the Calvin Watkins Mike apiece from
two days ago?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
I doubt it.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Calvin Watkins, you know a lot of big athletic and
all these have all done these pieces about what happened
with Mike and all this stuff. The thing that really
stood out to me about Calvin's piece was how much
all the guys that are still in the defense talk to.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Him and love him. Yeah, and so you.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Know, when we start getting into this idea of buying
and all this stuff. That's an abstract thing, right, it
would have to be like Ben saying, someone that's in
the know, that's connected to people. But as soon as
you said that, that's the first thing I thought of.
It's kind of like, you know, on some degree, the
Mavericks trading Luca or whatever, and how that's going to
impact certain people on the team. There's gonna be other
(12:31):
guys are gonna be like, oh, great, this is an
opportunity for me to step up. But if like, if
you're part of a crew or a bunker and they
disrupt that at the point that they disrupt it, whatever
you want to call it, social trauma, those things do happen,
and if all those guys are still feeling there, like
like the best example that is Trayvon Diggs.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Yeah, I thought about Trayvon Diggs when he told me that,
because if there's if you look at the beginning of
the game, Dak's giving a pep talk, the whole team's there.
Travon Diggs is not in the circle.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, but they you know, so, like I agree, and
Trayvon's always kind of like that, and he was bench
last well he was not starting last night, but also
Turpin was also a way outside.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
But okay, okay, now I know, but go go back, like,
just think about these plays that you've seen where it
looks like, hey, is that guy playing a different defense
than everybody?
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Trayvon Diggs is in the middle of everyone.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
He also had an interception for you last night, but
you had twelve men on the field, right, I mean,
is he as bad as we're saying, like, it's not
like he's not trying.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
There I could show you seven plays where it looked
like he wasn't trying.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Okay, well he got your interceptions.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
If you want his turnovers or not, maybe don't run
him over before the season starts, Like that's wrong to do.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
But I think I'm just bringing it up within the
contextuff guy's not buying in right, Okay.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
That's who I go to I think of him. Yeah,
all right, there you have it. We'll get back into
the game coming up at five o'clock. Coming up next,
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