September 29, 2025 • 12 mins
The Tie That Felt Like A Win"Would you have gone for it on 4th and goal from the 5 in overtime?"That’s the question that ignites a fiery debate on this episode of The Ben and Skin Show, featuring the full crew: Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray. The gang dives deep into the wild Sunday Night Football showdown between the Dallas Cowboys and the Green Bay Packers, a game that ended in a jaw-dropping 40–40 tie and left fans questioning coaching decisions, defensive breakdowns, and the very soul of football strategy.From Micah Parsons’ clutch chase-down to Dak Prescott’s MVP-level performance, the crew breaks down every pivotal moment, including the controversial decision to kick a field goal in overtime instead of going for the win. KT passionately dissects Brian Schottenheimer’s mindset, revealing a telling moment when the Cowboys declined a penalty that could’ve pushed the Packers back to 2nd and 16—opting instead for fewer plays over more yardage.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All Cowboy, surprise the Cowboy.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
It was weirdly sixteen to thirteen at halftime in favor
of the Cowboys, and then you know, there was no
defense played by the Cowboys in the second half at all,
because the Packers went touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, field goal, field goal.
But when you go to overtime, I think it's important
that we take a look at kind of what happened
(00:37):
there because there's something that could have happened that could
have changed things a little bit now to get to overtime, though,
it's a pretty wild sequence as well, because the Packers
scored to go up thirty four to thirty with a
minute forty five left, then the Cowboys scoring three plays
the George Pickens touchdown with forty three seconds left. Though
the Packers get the ball, were any of y'all thinking
(00:58):
at the time, George Pickens go out of bounds at
the one there or go down?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Oh No, I wasn't think of that at all. I
wouldn't either.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
It would have been different if it was a different lead,
but with it being the lead that it was, I
was not.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Okay, I was thinking it because Packers have got the
ball when they did the ball all three timeouts forty
three seconds right, and I didn't have any faith in
the Cowboys stopping them. I did not know that the
Packers were playing not to not to lose last night.
Like the Packers, I don't know why, and it has
(01:36):
a lot to do, I think with the right guard
and right tackle being out, and I think they're just
trying not to get Jordan Love killed. I want to say,
I think it's this has been a weird thing for
the last two weeks where he's coaching weird and conservatively,
I can't tell you anything about last week, but there
were moments last night where I was like, man, we
I mean, I know they have issues on their offensive
line with injury, but I was thinking, I'm very surprised
(01:58):
at the degree of pressure that we're getting. Yeah, I
mean it was threefold of anything that's happened earlier this year.
And when that happened too, the package of the ball,
they had the ball at the fifty with twenty eight
seconds left in all three timeouts. Yeah, we're only able
to get a few yards from there and make a
fifty three yard field goal to send it to overtime.
S At the over time Cowboys get the ball, and
(02:21):
it's a second and goal with the five. There's the
Micah chase down from behind play third and goal with
the four. Dak throws it out of the end zone
because there's some pressure, so it's fourth and goal with
the five. Saw a lot of people on online, including
my good friend John Mashouda of the One Star Cowboys podcast, say,
(02:42):
I would really think about going for it here.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
It's a ballsy thing to do.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Thirty seven to thirty seven in the NFL, the other
team's going to get the ball no matter what. If
you kick the field goal now in overtime, would you
have gone for it.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
I didn't even hesitate. I wouldn't hesitate. I never even
gave it a second thought. I kicked Take the points.
You blew it on the early downs. You should have
gotten the end zone then I didn't. And the reason
I would have absolutely taken the points is I didn't
have any confidence that the Cowboys could stop the Packers
at all, and so if anything, maybe they could keep
them from scoring a touchdown, but it was a guarantee
(03:18):
that they were gonna get at least a field goal.
So I'm like, take the points. At that point, you're saying,
at least we're gonna tie.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I was thinking of going for it until they got
zero yards on third down. When they got zero and
that's the Mica play. When they got zero yards on
second second, now was the micro play? Second?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
That was the Mica play. What do we run down?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, way out of bounds? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I mean if if you had gotten more than five yards,
if you were if it wasn't fourth and five, if
it's fourth and two, then I consider it. But in
that situation, I just take the field goal.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
It would have been a big nuts decision for sure,
and I was leaning to just kid the field goal.
But I do kind of wish I had it in
me and to just go, you know what, let's go, Shody, let's.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Go for the win.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Here.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Y'all feel different at fourth and two though, right, absolutely? Yeah? Yeah,
I know fourth and goal to five way different than
fourth and goal to two. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Sure, when running the ball is on the table, yeah,
making the defense, guess I.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Think I'd still kick it fourth and two. I just don't.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I didn't have any confidence in the defense. And uh,
I think you got to if somebody if because if
you don't score there, all they have to do is
march down, kick a field goal and they win the game.
That was going to be easy for them to do.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I think yeah, And I think doing that puts like
going for it and not getting it clearly losings on
the table kicking the field goal. To me, though, just
put your art like to me, it says tie is
the best we're going to get here.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
And I think that's a that's like a victory for
the Cowboys. Yeah, Like the Packers are the team like that.
We're talking like, hey, we're going to go undefeated. What's
that Dolphins team that we're undefeated?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
That's us. We're God, look how good we are.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
And then you know, the pack come in here having
lost last week, didn't They lose to Cleveland to Cleveland
last week, and so they're the team that has to
prove hey, look we're there. I'm shocked they weren't saying,
let's go win this game. We're on the road. They
were playing to tie.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
I okay, understand what was going on there.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I don't know that this was happening with the Packers,
But do you know what else happens at the end
of games? The difference when you're up by four versus
being up by three is when you're up by four,
everything becomes four downs and the likelihood of a touchdown increases. Yeah,
because when it's three, the opponent is willing to play
four to three, where if it's four, you have to
(05:37):
go for a touchdown. Every single situation's four downs every time.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
There's a decision that Brian Schottenheimer made during all this
I thought was very telling, and we'll discuss that next.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Ben in Skin Show ninety seven point one The Eagle.
We have a week day update coming up. I'm hoping
we get to the story of the shocking corn Dog recall.
We'll see how everything plays out. But we're talking Dallas
cowb football forty to forty tie Sunday Night football as
Mike Parsons and the Green Bay Packers come to town,
a very very entertaining game. We've talked a lot about
(06:11):
however you feel about a tie or which thought going in,
but regardless, if you watch NFL football for just high
entertainment factor, you got it.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Last night. That was a very very entertaining football game.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
We've been talking about some of the decisions going forward
on Force not going for it, but Kat, you were
just alluding to something that Shody did throughout the course of.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
The game that had a big impact.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So when the Packers got the ball back, so it's
Cowboys forty, Packers thirty seven and there's about four to
forty left and the Packers are trying to go score
and try to get to win. Well, there was a
penalty on the Packers and the Cowboys ended up declining it,
so they took a third and six, but it could
have been second and sixteen, right, And that told me
(06:54):
that the mindset is fewer plays. The yardage doesn't matter
right now because they're gonna they can get as many
yards as they want most of the time, so let's
just take a chance at them messing up twice over time.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I thought that was because in any other.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Part of the game, he's going, yeah, second sixteen, like
every other team would have said that we'll take second sixteen.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Push him back. And that was pretty deep. That was
like at the thirty or so, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Uh yeah, No, it was with the twenty four, okay,
and then you know the Packers throw a bomb on
third and six that didn't work. You know, I'm a
guy for a long time, I'm not a big ref guy.
I'm a big fan of the refs eating the flags
in overtime too.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
It looked like p I, but.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
I thought the receiver initiated the contact. They tried to
like pull the bland around him and like, yeah, got fit.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
But it was like, well, Blane didn't turn and play
the ball. That's fair. Okay, he didn't turn and play
the ball. But I do agree with Ben.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I do agree that the receiver initiated the contact because
it was underthrown.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
It could have been usually in the NFL, though you
watched too many games and they call pass interference on
the defense. It's a fit fifty yard penalty, and I
just I hate that we have to eat the car.
But by the way, the refs new this has nothing
to either team national TV game. Put the flag in
your pocket. We're not trying to have a four hour game. Also,
(08:17):
get the microphone. It's on your hand, get it up
close to your face. We can't hear. He also turned
around to the wrong side one time. Dude, No, you
have to look at the TV camera, all right, But
I got a question ref crew.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
As Tacker fan and part owner, like for the Cowboys,
it's a miracle that they got out of there with
a tie, like the Packers are legit Super Bowl contenders.
The Cowboys might be number one pick in the draft,
contenders like it. They had no business being in this game?
Are the Packers? Do the Packers feel good about a tie?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Why didn't they play for a win?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
This is the first discourse we've ever seen about the
head coach losing his job and all that, which is
too early for that, But it's happening now, and that's
gonna it's comined with last week and he goes to
the Browns. Yeah, I saw, I mean, I'm genuinely in
disbelief in how this played out for the Packers.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Lift I saw a whole Okay, it's one thing going
into to, you know, being disbelief, but having seen how
the game played out, it doesn't seem that outrageous now.
Like going into the game, Yeah, there's none of us thought.
I mean I remember going, Okay, I think the Cowboys
lose by eleven. That was kind of the number that
was in my head. But the way the game played out, well,
(09:34):
this is why you can't tank and you can't rebuild.
You have Dak Prescott. Yea, Dak Prescott's playing better than
maybe anyone in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
That's good.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
He's so good, Like, okay, but I have a question too.
So early on when the Cowboys scored fourteen points and
thirty seconds or whatever, right around that time, right Green
Bay is ending and a half, and they're still being aggressive,
like dropping back and deep in their own territory.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
It was so cocky to like, you know, that's how
they usually.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
But it's like that that James Houston fumble or whatever,
sack or whatever coming with that ball. I mean, if
they had just been going into the half saying, let's
just protect the ball, get into halftime.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Game over, game's over.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Yeah, but them being ballsy and like dropping back deep
on third. That was a third down player too, wasn't
it second or third? But yeah, but it's like, damn
that was That's why it's disrespectful, really interesting.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
That's why it's extraordinary too that I think, and I
think the Cowboys get a lot of credit. They didn't
do anything with their first possession of the second half
because Pickens dropped that ball. If Pickens doesn't drop that ball,
who knows what happens with that drive. That was a
huge play, and you know, you sitting there and think,
to Ben's point, they got all that momentum, they made
the big play. Now they're going into halftime with the
(10:48):
lead and they're going to get the ball, and then
they didn't capitalize. The Packers scored a touchdown, but the
Cowboys fought right back. Man that's usually a point in
the game where it can get away from you, and
the Cowboys didn't let it happen.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
They deserve a lot of credit.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
There was another play when it was like, I think
it was thirteen to two at the time, and the
Packers had ball midfield and it was fourth and two
and they did, like, we'll.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Do it delay the game thing, and yeah, what like
you can go for it, man Like.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
They're usually aggressive and likely, So there's some weird stuff's
going on with them.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
And I don't know what.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
No for the Cowboys knowing how good their quarterback's playing
and how good their offense is that you have it,
you could win a super Bowl with that quarterback, They've
got to figure out some way to fix this defense,
right if they've got to do something like change the scheme,
decide to start blitzing, start playing, man like, do something anything.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Well, this is like is if you give it forty
to Green Bay and overtime, is that giving up twenty
seven to the Jets or the Panthers the next two
weeks because they did start to blitz and like show
some different looks. Yeah, not a lot, but a little bit,
and it's like, okay, where was this last week? You
get Chicago? They have to continue doing that. So maybe
it's just simple as Bland. He'll get back and get
(12:01):
healthy and overshown comes back and they'll start to figure
it out.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Pass rush has to come from somewhere. Maybe Clowney helps. Also.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Also, like think about Micah Parsons when he got here.
He was way better in week ten than week two.
And I'm not saying as a rock who is Micah Parsons,
But that guy's gonna have an impact later in the year.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Mattie, he's a good play, hope.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
So they have those three defensive ends that are second
round picks and they've all flashed and shown something, but
none of them have broken through yet. I hope he can.
I think I hope he can be a guy that
can just get pressure. So what were we looking at
the other day That Osa is getting double teamed way
more now.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
He's getting over like a double team.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I think like I forgot, however, much percent more since
Mike's bounced, like oh yeah, that's fine, Mike's not here.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yep, all right.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
There you have it, cussing the Cowboys. Coming up next
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Speaker 1 (12:54):
That's next
All Cowboy, surprise the Cowboy.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
It was weirdly sixteen to thirteen at halftime in favor
of the Cowboys, and then you know, there was no
defense played by the Cowboys in the second half at all,
because the Packers went touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, field goal, field goal.
But when you go to overtime, I think it's important
that we take a look at kind of what happened
(00:37):
there because there's something that could have happened that could
have changed things a little bit now to get to overtime, though,
it's a pretty wild sequence as well, because the Packers
scored to go up thirty four to thirty with a
minute forty five left, then the Cowboys scoring three plays
the George Pickens touchdown with forty three seconds left. Though
the Packers get the ball, were any of y'all thinking
(00:58):
at the time, George Pickens go out of bounds at
the one there or go down?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Oh No, I wasn't think of that at all. I
wouldn't either.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
It would have been different if it was a different lead,
but with it being the lead that it was, I
was not.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Okay, I was thinking it because Packers have got the
ball when they did the ball all three timeouts forty
three seconds right, and I didn't have any faith in
the Cowboys stopping them. I did not know that the
Packers were playing not to not to lose last night.
Like the Packers, I don't know why, and it has
(01:36):
a lot to do, I think with the right guard
and right tackle being out, and I think they're just
trying not to get Jordan Love killed. I want to say,
I think it's this has been a weird thing for
the last two weeks where he's coaching weird and conservatively,
I can't tell you anything about last week, but there
were moments last night where I was like, man, we
I mean, I know they have issues on their offensive
line with injury, but I was thinking, I'm very surprised
(01:58):
at the degree of pressure that we're getting. Yeah, I
mean it was threefold of anything that's happened earlier this year.
And when that happened too, the package of the ball,
they had the ball at the fifty with twenty eight
seconds left in all three timeouts. Yeah, we're only able
to get a few yards from there and make a
fifty three yard field goal to send it to overtime.
S At the over time Cowboys get the ball, and
(02:21):
it's a second and goal with the five. There's the
Micah chase down from behind play third and goal with
the four. Dak throws it out of the end zone
because there's some pressure, so it's fourth and goal with
the five. Saw a lot of people on online, including
my good friend John Mashouda of the One Star Cowboys podcast, say,
(02:42):
I would really think about going for it here.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
It's a ballsy thing to do.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Thirty seven to thirty seven in the NFL, the other
team's going to get the ball no matter what. If
you kick the field goal now in overtime, would you
have gone for it.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
I didn't even hesitate. I wouldn't hesitate. I never even
gave it a second thought. I kicked Take the points.
You blew it on the early downs. You should have
gotten the end zone then I didn't. And the reason
I would have absolutely taken the points is I didn't
have any confidence that the Cowboys could stop the Packers
at all, and so if anything, maybe they could keep
them from scoring a touchdown, but it was a guarantee
(03:18):
that they were gonna get at least a field goal.
So I'm like, take the points. At that point, you're saying,
at least we're gonna tie.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I was thinking of going for it until they got
zero yards on third down. When they got zero and
that's the Mica play. When they got zero yards on
second second, now was the micro play? Second?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
That was the Mica play. What do we run down?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, way out of bounds? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I mean if if you had gotten more than five yards,
if you were if it wasn't fourth and five, if
it's fourth and two, then I consider it. But in
that situation, I just take the field goal.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
It would have been a big nuts decision for sure,
and I was leaning to just kid the field goal.
But I do kind of wish I had it in
me and to just go, you know what, let's go, Shody, let's.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Go for the win.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Here.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Y'all feel different at fourth and two though, right, absolutely? Yeah? Yeah,
I know fourth and goal to five way different than
fourth and goal to two. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Sure, when running the ball is on the table, yeah,
making the defense, guess I.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Think I'd still kick it fourth and two. I just don't.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I didn't have any confidence in the defense. And uh,
I think you got to if somebody if because if
you don't score there, all they have to do is
march down, kick a field goal and they win the game.
That was going to be easy for them to do.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I think yeah, And I think doing that puts like
going for it and not getting it clearly losings on
the table kicking the field goal. To me, though, just
put your art like to me, it says tie is
the best we're going to get here.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
And I think that's a that's like a victory for
the Cowboys. Yeah, Like the Packers are the team like that.
We're talking like, hey, we're going to go undefeated. What's
that Dolphins team that we're undefeated?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
That's us. We're God, look how good we are.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
And then you know, the pack come in here having
lost last week, didn't They lose to Cleveland to Cleveland
last week, and so they're the team that has to
prove hey, look we're there. I'm shocked they weren't saying,
let's go win this game. We're on the road. They
were playing to tie.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
I okay, understand what was going on there.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I don't know that this was happening with the Packers,
But do you know what else happens at the end
of games? The difference when you're up by four versus
being up by three is when you're up by four,
everything becomes four downs and the likelihood of a touchdown increases. Yeah,
because when it's three, the opponent is willing to play
four to three, where if it's four, you have to
(05:37):
go for a touchdown. Every single situation's four downs every time.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
There's a decision that Brian Schottenheimer made during all this
I thought was very telling, and we'll discuss that next.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Ben in Skin Show ninety seven point one The Eagle.
We have a week day update coming up. I'm hoping
we get to the story of the shocking corn Dog recall.
We'll see how everything plays out. But we're talking Dallas
cowb football forty to forty tie Sunday Night football as
Mike Parsons and the Green Bay Packers come to town,
a very very entertaining game. We've talked a lot about
(06:11):
however you feel about a tie or which thought going in,
but regardless, if you watch NFL football for just high
entertainment factor, you got it.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Last night. That was a very very entertaining football game.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
We've been talking about some of the decisions going forward
on Force not going for it, but Kat, you were
just alluding to something that Shody did throughout the course of.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
The game that had a big impact.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So when the Packers got the ball back, so it's
Cowboys forty, Packers thirty seven and there's about four to
forty left and the Packers are trying to go score
and try to get to win. Well, there was a
penalty on the Packers and the Cowboys ended up declining it,
so they took a third and six, but it could
have been second and sixteen, right, And that told me
(06:54):
that the mindset is fewer plays. The yardage doesn't matter
right now because they're gonna they can get as many
yards as they want most of the time, so let's
just take a chance at them messing up twice over time.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I thought that was because in any other.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Part of the game, he's going, yeah, second sixteen, like
every other team would have said that we'll take second sixteen.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Push him back. And that was pretty deep. That was
like at the thirty or so, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Uh yeah, No, it was with the twenty four, okay,
and then you know the Packers throw a bomb on
third and six that didn't work. You know, I'm a
guy for a long time, I'm not a big ref guy.
I'm a big fan of the refs eating the flags
in overtime too.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
It looked like p I, but.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
I thought the receiver initiated the contact. They tried to
like pull the bland around him and like, yeah, got fit.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
But it was like, well, Blane didn't turn and play
the ball. That's fair. Okay, he didn't turn and play
the ball. But I do agree with Ben.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I do agree that the receiver initiated the contact because
it was underthrown.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
It could have been usually in the NFL, though you
watched too many games and they call pass interference on
the defense. It's a fit fifty yard penalty, and I
just I hate that we have to eat the car.
But by the way, the refs new this has nothing
to either team national TV game. Put the flag in
your pocket. We're not trying to have a four hour game. Also,
(08:17):
get the microphone. It's on your hand, get it up
close to your face. We can't hear. He also turned
around to the wrong side one time. Dude, No, you
have to look at the TV camera, all right, But
I got a question ref crew.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
As Tacker fan and part owner, like for the Cowboys,
it's a miracle that they got out of there with
a tie, like the Packers are legit Super Bowl contenders.
The Cowboys might be number one pick in the draft,
contenders like it. They had no business being in this game?
Are the Packers? Do the Packers feel good about a tie?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Why didn't they play for a win?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
This is the first discourse we've ever seen about the
head coach losing his job and all that, which is
too early for that, But it's happening now, and that's
gonna it's comined with last week and he goes to
the Browns. Yeah, I saw, I mean, I'm genuinely in
disbelief in how this played out for the Packers.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Lift I saw a whole Okay, it's one thing going
into to, you know, being disbelief, but having seen how
the game played out, it doesn't seem that outrageous now.
Like going into the game, Yeah, there's none of us thought.
I mean I remember going, Okay, I think the Cowboys
lose by eleven. That was kind of the number that
was in my head. But the way the game played out, well,
(09:34):
this is why you can't tank and you can't rebuild.
You have Dak Prescott. Yea, Dak Prescott's playing better than
maybe anyone in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
That's good.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
He's so good, Like, okay, but I have a question too.
So early on when the Cowboys scored fourteen points and
thirty seconds or whatever, right around that time, right Green
Bay is ending and a half, and they're still being aggressive,
like dropping back and deep in their own territory.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
It was so cocky to like, you know, that's how
they usually.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
But it's like that that James Houston fumble or whatever,
sack or whatever coming with that ball. I mean, if
they had just been going into the half saying, let's
just protect the ball, get into halftime.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Game over, game's over.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Yeah, but them being ballsy and like dropping back deep
on third. That was a third down player too, wasn't
it second or third? But yeah, but it's like, damn
that was That's why it's disrespectful, really interesting.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
That's why it's extraordinary too that I think, and I
think the Cowboys get a lot of credit. They didn't
do anything with their first possession of the second half
because Pickens dropped that ball. If Pickens doesn't drop that ball,
who knows what happens with that drive. That was a
huge play, and you know, you sitting there and think,
to Ben's point, they got all that momentum, they made
the big play. Now they're going into halftime with the
(10:48):
lead and they're going to get the ball, and then
they didn't capitalize. The Packers scored a touchdown, but the
Cowboys fought right back. Man that's usually a point in
the game where it can get away from you, and
the Cowboys didn't let it happen.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
They deserve a lot of credit.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
There was another play when it was like, I think
it was thirteen to two at the time, and the
Packers had ball midfield and it was fourth and two
and they did, like, we'll.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Do it delay the game thing, and yeah, what like
you can go for it, man Like.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
They're usually aggressive and likely, So there's some weird stuff's
going on with them.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
And I don't know what.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
No for the Cowboys knowing how good their quarterback's playing
and how good their offense is that you have it,
you could win a super Bowl with that quarterback, They've
got to figure out some way to fix this defense,
right if they've got to do something like change the scheme,
decide to start blitzing, start playing, man like, do something anything.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Well, this is like is if you give it forty
to Green Bay and overtime, is that giving up twenty
seven to the Jets or the Panthers the next two
weeks because they did start to blitz and like show
some different looks. Yeah, not a lot, but a little bit,
and it's like, okay, where was this last week? You
get Chicago? They have to continue doing that. So maybe
it's just simple as Bland. He'll get back and get
(12:01):
healthy and overshown comes back and they'll start to figure
it out.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Pass rush has to come from somewhere. Maybe Clowney helps. Also.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Also, like think about Micah Parsons when he got here.
He was way better in week ten than week two.
And I'm not saying as a rock who is Micah Parsons,
But that guy's gonna have an impact later in the year.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Mattie, he's a good play, hope.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
So they have those three defensive ends that are second
round picks and they've all flashed and shown something, but
none of them have broken through yet. I hope he can.
I think I hope he can be a guy that
can just get pressure. So what were we looking at
the other day That Osa is getting double teamed way
more now.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
He's getting over like a double team.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I think like I forgot, however, much percent more since
Mike's bounced, like oh yeah, that's fine, Mike's not here.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yep, all right.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
There you have it, cussing the Cowboys. Coming up next
in the weekly Weekday Update, a wild story about a
south Lake woman.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
That's next
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