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July 3, 2025 17 mins
“Did Jay-Z really have to apologize to Nas because his mom made him?”
Welcome to one of the most unhinged, hilarious, and surprisingly insightful episodes of The Ben and Skin Show yet. Join Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray as they count down the most iconic, ridiculous, and downright petty celebrity beefs of the 21st century—according to The Ringer’s Top 40 list.From rap battles and Twitter meltdowns to elevator punches and hologram resurrections, this episode is a rollercoaster of pop culture chaos. Whether it’s Nas vs. Jay-Z, Shaq vs. Kobe, or Taylor Swift vs. Kanye West, the crew breaks down each feud with their signature blend of sharp commentary and laugh-out-loud banter.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Irish beef stew. Are you kidding me? Show it out
for riskine freaking million.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm gonna ask you a ton of dumb for a second,
because I said I was getting angry, but now you're
getting a little heated beef brisk.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Get off it, roast beef. Now I go home and
still watch more. You know after three hours?

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Yes, I know.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
No, you don't tell me what I do and what
I don't don't tell me. I watched, damn gaye. Why
are you arguing with me on about this cod? You
make a freaking a parable toupbout this stuff? Do you
see where I'm going with this? Beef's here we go.
We're at number twelve and this slitch you've been doing
all week from the ring or top forty beefs of
the twenty first century, Number twelve takes us two nas

(00:37):
versus jay Z. Now here's the beef ingredients that you
need for your beef taco. Here you had some some insults,
some blatant homophobia. I mean it's wraps, a little bit
of misinformation, some forms of big timing. These are the
things you all want. There's even a mob deep got
drug into it. Big allegation of someone watching while something

(01:01):
was happening. Don't worry about that. NOAs compared Jay's mustache
to whiskers on a rat. Jay called Nasa has been
with one hot album every ten year average. But it
does kind of feel like NAS won this one because
in the end, jay Z's mom made him go on
the radio and apologized Nos because he called NAS's girlfriend ugly.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
That's respect, beautiful. You do what your mama tells you
to do.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
And that's the thing about beefs. Beefs are not wars.
Beefs are relatively harmless most of the time. They sometimes
it's water under the bridge, a beef cow.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Thank you, kat A. What you said skin reminds me
of the mama was getting involved. Reminds me of the
Barkley Shack beef. Oh yeah, they had beef with one another.
They were fighting and stuff and it was about to
escalat and then their moms got on the phone with
each other and got.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
On the phones with them, Like, you guys, stop this
right now.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Weren't there moms in a card group together or something?

Speaker 1 (01:57):
That's awesome? God, I would love to see those card games,
no doubt. What are they playing?

Speaker 2 (02:02):
You think probably Jack probably boring after about the first
two minutes.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, number on eleven. But those two minutes Kevin Durant
versus Twitter, Oh incredible, Yeah, and this is incredible. And
twenty twenty one, Kevin Durant tweeted, no relax when I'm
on Twitter. I'm on ten until the second I closed
the app, which he must have just been honest, but
then he he also used to tweet about drinking Scarlett

(02:27):
Johansson's bath water, and then of course he had the
Burner account situation. Yeah, the account is rough. The guy
just can't stop, just like he feels like he's got
to interact with the haters, Yeah, which I do sometimes
I'm like, man, might I respond to a guy he's
got seven followers? You know what?

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Man? I went through a period about about eighteen months
or so, basically I think around the time Elon took
over Twitter where I lost interest in it and I
wasn't really beefing on Twitter that much. And then the
last couple of months I've been going back at it again.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
It's amazing what you can do in the MAVs do
some crazy stuff.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah, I know, Yeah, I just I've always been a
believer in blocking or muting.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
It's very helpful. Just protect your environment a little bit.
You don't have.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
It's great, You're welcome to come be toxic. I just
why do I have to see it? I don't have
to see it?

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Right.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
I love when you mute someone sorry, and then you
forget about it, and later on you go to like
a friend's post and you see, oh I muted this,
I'm mute and it's still just something bad.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Okay, for a reason. I have a lot of replies.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
We're all looking at it says this account has been muted,
and it's like in a chain of stuff that I'm
involved in, and I'm like, I know, I don't care
who it is.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Then you just move on to the next number.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Ten.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
A little boring here, Kim Katrolvas, Sarah Jessica Parker, Oh, well,
hold on.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
I am interested in this because I do not understand
now why I see so much sex in the city
stuff on. She ain't on it, Yeah, she's franchised. No
I know, but I'm saying she ain't on it because
they're beef. Well, m control's not it, right, yeah? Because
the money is that what it was. She was always
mad that Sarah Jessica Parker made more money than her.
But here's where it got real tense.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
She was the horror of the show. Kim ConTroll put
up an Instagram post that was about her brother dying,
and then Sarah Jessica Parker commented on it, offering, you know,
her condolence, probably prayers or something, and then Control responded
to her saying, hey, man, don't exploit this tragedy to
restore your nice girl persona, Like, that's not how this works.
Just because my brother died, you don't get to come

(04:29):
be nice. You're a nasty person. So they did not
get along at all. But it was report that Sarah
Jessica Parker was making like three times as much as
her and it was her show.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Like in other words, when friends came on and they
were all making the same amount of money, they were
all equals on the show, all six of them. Probably
the biggest start at that time of them was Monica
because she was the only one that had a track record.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
When the show thought it a Shwimmers show.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Now Monica was Monica was married to Michael Keaton. She
was bigger. Monica was on family ties, she had, she
had a bigger track record. So she was the most
known commodity when that show launched. But that Sex and
the City nowhere close. That was Sarah Jessica Parker's show.
The character was based on a book. I mean, all
of that was Carrie Bradshaw, So I did why she

(05:15):
was the franchise.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
And Kim Catrell or whatever.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
She was in Porky's Yeah, which was the movie, also
a movie, but she was kind of a retrade at
that point. I always think, in those situations, what is
her market value? Yeah, so don't be mad at Sarah
Jessica Parker. Go be mad that somebody else won't pay
you to be the star of your own show about
a whore that bangs everyone.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah, that show was based around Carrie did the writing,
she was a columnist, all this crap, and she had
a posse. Homegirl is part of the posse. But Homegirl
was a breakout character because she was an open slut,
like that was the character. People loved it. You got
you guys have not seen Porky's right, No, come on,

(05:56):
hold on. In Porky's her character is someone that once
she smells dirty jocks, she's so horny she'll do anything.
That's the premise of the character in the movie, right.
But Kim Cattrell in Sex and the City, it was
kind of empowering. Yeah, I think for there not to
be a double standard, right, she was just doing what

(06:18):
dudes do. Yes, it was pretty cool. I have sex
with everything too. Yeah, and people loved it. Top nine
Beefs Next, Let's do it all right, Ben and Skin
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(06:42):
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Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, it's gonna be so much fun.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Like you said, headed there tonight after the show, headed
there tomorrow, Gonna be there the next day, like you said,
to cut the cake. We're gonna be at Rollertown a
lot man. It's a big deal to celebrate five years.
Hell yeah, we could not have made this without you guys,
So thank you for supporting us. Any small business is hard.
Grateful for the support. And like when you go to

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Speaker 3 (07:58):
We will see you this weekend, but right now it's
time for this.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
The thing's big. Let's finish this thing up the top
beefs of the twenty first century. Number nine Shack versus Kobe. Uh,
you know, Kobe said Shack was fatten out of shape.
Shack asked Kobe how his ass taste? That's all you know?
That's pretty good dynamic that was. Look. Uh, he was
fat and out of shape.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
And if you'd taken the same approach as Kobe man,
no telling how dominant they would have been. But I
think Kobe was trying to emulate the Michael Jordan thing,
win at all costs, damn your friends, and Shaq was
trying to have fun while also winning.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
There's some bad stories of Shack, like rubbing his sweaty
genitalia on people's stuff.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
He's immature guy. He'll tell you he was in the
balls and yeah type of thing. Number eight is he
living here now? And doubts what worth? Thanks?

Speaker 3 (08:53):
So he lives a lot of different places, but he
has a house saying he was going to be here
a lot.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
He's saying he's gonna be here more than anywhere. I
saw him hanging out with Shippy the other day. Yeah.
Number eight Taylor Grift versus Scooter Braun. Okay, tell everyone
who Taylor grift Is. I think everyone knows they are.
We assuming it's swift. Thank you. Okay, this is just
she's on this list more than any other person. Five times,

(09:18):
say Taylor grift Is. Taylor obviously gets mad because bron
bought her masters. He didn't sold them a year after.
I think a lot of people thought he'd just been
holding them. He sold him for a prophet, like a
year after he was just doing some some sweaty music
business stuff. Yeah, but he's gone down as the megavillain
here because if you piss off the Grifties, they're coming

(09:38):
for you. What are the Grifties Number seven? Liam versus
Noel Gallagher? This is good, This is great. There's so
much stuff that's from before two thousand that's good. But
what it really gets good is when Liam pulled out
of their MTV unplugged set and then went up to
the balcony and started heckling no from the top. But

(10:02):
that's all again pre ninety six. The post two thousand
stuff that happened with them, it's pretty great too, like
when Liam took a picture of Nol and then just
like an close picture of NOL and then captured it Potato.
They called them a potato. There is good.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
I don't know if it was in because the other
thing you could do here is you could also it's
funny that it's them, but you could also do Oasis
versus Blur.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yes, which was before two thousand. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
But I'm saying there's like a whole documentary about that
brit pop battle between those two. I think it's on Netflix,
and it was really entertaining to watch because they hated
each other and they also hated other bands, so there
was just so much hate that they were dispersing all
over the place. In the middle of it, them and Radiohead,
well just tom Yorke, We're going back and forth.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
It's good music, beef. It really is fun. Our buddy
Kent's gonna be at the Oasis show I think tomorrow
or maybe it's tonight, the first one back, and they're
playing like twenty shows and then they're done forever and
they'll probably never talk to each other. Seriously, I think
they will not talk anymore. There was getting one last
cash grab and getting out.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
I'm trying to think about where I saw it. Maybe
it was at the end of that Brit Pop documentary thing.
But it's the way that they talk about each other.
There was some weird family thing going on besides just
success drunken idiots.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, they're like one of them kicked a cop, Like
there's a lost a bunch of teeth at his ass
beat because of it. They're working people, they're working class blokes.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
And so far they've been getting along, right or they
just seriously doubt they've talked to each other. Yeah, put
the set list together, and.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Then I bet they don't. I mean, I bet it's
very limited. I truly think they hate each other. But
maybe it's all a good show. And that's the legacy
of your band. Number six j Lo and Mariah Carey.
I didn't even know they had been neither. So apparently
j Loo started working with Mariah's ex Tommy Matula in
the late nineties. Oh yeah, of course. And then uh,

(12:07):
Mariah Carey started saying that j Loo's was stealing samples
from her, and then so Jayla's already mad about it,
and then Mariah Carey's like, Jayla also doesn't have to
she doesn't really sing her songs like I actually sing.
I don't know if it's kind though, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Do you guys know that whole Tommy Mottola Mariah Carey thing.
So he is a big, big, gigantic music exac like
super powerful guy, and he pretty much plucked Mariah Carrey
out of the world when she was about eighteen or nineteen,
and he was a fifty year old power broker and
he kept her under lock and key.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
That was kind of the playback then underage person and
make him a star very uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
It's part of the reason, might be part of the
reason why Mariah Carey comes off as a crazy person
all the time.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Number five Kendrickle marvs Drake. I'm surprised that's not higher. Well,
you know, I did question their ranking system here and
how they play played out. I don't think we need
to discuss this anymore than we already have and over
the past year. I think everyone knows by now what
that's about. Number four Dwayne the Rock Johnson versus Vin
the Diagram Diesel.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Oh yeah, by the way, have y'all seen Vin Diesel lately?

Speaker 1 (13:17):
He's uh, you know, looking like me a little bit.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
There was that line, you know, I lived my life
quarter mile at a time, and now they're saying the
line is I live my life a quarter pounder at
a time. He's cooking, got a big man, he's older,
he's got the Santa belly?

Speaker 1 (13:38):
How old is Vin Diesel? I don't have time for
it right now. Oh dude.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
In the video, he was like, we're gonna bring it back.
We're gonna do the things everybody wanted. We'll make one
more on three conditions. I get paid a lot of money.
Number two, we bring it back to l A and
we reunite with Paul Walker's character or whatever that So
they brought Paul Walker look alike or.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Something was out there with a hologram. Are they gonna
do it ai? I don't know. I don't know, but
they're Yeah, they're bringing him back.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
We're gonna pimp my dead friend to get one more paycheck.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
That's amazing.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
See this is why Kim Cattrall will not work with Vendiza.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Is how would you say? It was fifty seven? Hell yeah?
Number three jay Z versus Solange, Uh, pretty good. She
punched him in an elevator, b Crampa out of him
after the met gal on an elevator, and then you know,
Beyonce drops the Lemonade album, kind of making him the
most hated man in America for a little bit, and
then here's fine with an album kind of apologizing far

(14:41):
in a way, the best thing he had done in
like fifteen years he didn't done anything makes sense, and
it just goes to show you that an artist needs
something to create art, otherwise they're making product. And that
was a real ass album, and it was great because
he was going through some stuff and he revealed it

(15:02):
and it made it a wonderful piece of word. And
now he just picks the super Bowl halftime show YEP,
number two Yankees Verus red Sox two thousands only actually
pretty great. At first I saw it kind of roll
my eyes, and then I remembered that Pedro Martinez and
Don Zimmerz fight, Like what the bloody sock? I mean?
That was really good stuff.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Zimmer kicked Pedro's ass, he tumped over man.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
He was like seventy five.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
And you see that, like if you see fight videos,
like older fat guys by the pool and they're like
getting in a fist fight and in their mind they're
still twenty five or whatever, but now they're fifty five
and they just have no balance and they all go
falling and sliding and.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
You know what my latest thing is I love is
white chicks all dressed up and high heels and pumps
thinking that they're going to get in a fight with
some gal that knows how to fight.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
At the Star in Frisco.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Dude, Yes, yeah, the one one lady could throw punches
and the rest of them couldn't.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Some guy, some guy in the comment said, why do
white bitches look like they fight in slow motion?

Speaker 1 (16:05):
They're not ready for it. They talk a big game,
but they're all ready to throw hands. So good number
one Taylor Griff versus Kanye West. Ah, there it is good.
That was number one. Yeah, in credible. I mean that
was big and did not really fight back though, No,
yeah she did, Like all your songs turned out to
be about him a little bit too either.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
It's in one documentary, but that that affected her bad.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
She was a little girl, exactly get crazy. She started
dating a heroin addict after that too, nineteen seventy five
guy in credit which they don't get along, well, she
doesn't get well when spie is the only way that
you can go really get motivated. Also's pretty funny. Travis
Kelsey said he didn't know how to read I thought

(16:49):
that was kind of a weird thing. And that is America.
That is America. Yeah, I'm not going to work.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
What a great way to end it, man said, And
that is America. And then he said, I'm not coming
to work tomorrow. He was inspired by Travis Kelsey not
knowing how to read.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Well.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
I hope you guys had a wonderful four day week.
Ben and I are getting ready to ahead to Rollertown.
Come on out and join us if you want have
a wonderful fourth We'll have a best of show tomorrow,
including that one time Kat looked Taylor griff dead in
her eyes and he said.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
They changed things on as quick on this world. So
enjoy you every minute while you have it.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Sorry, Christina, you got to stick around and play music
and then you get a vacation.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
She's next on the Eagle. Here you going, well, I'm
gonna get my sock bag, dude. God bless Jesus.
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