June 26, 2025 • 7 mins
“Is ‘Amélie’ really a better love story than ‘Road House’? And did Jonah Hill actually make baseball interesting?”In this delightfully unpredictable episode of The Ben and Skin Show, Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina “K-Ray” Ray—dives headfirst into the New York Times’ Top 100 Movies of the 21st Century list, and things get hilariously off the rails.From debating the emotional power of Amélie to questioning the realism of Moneyball, the gang brings their signature mix of insight, irreverence, and movie nerd passion. Skin breaks down the brilliance (and frustration) of The Master, KT confesses his confusion over Oldboy, and Ben can’t stop laughing at the idea of Road House being the gold standard for romance.Funniest and Most Memorable Moments:“Is Hopper most known for Easy Rider?” “No. Hoosiers.” “No. Speed.” — A perfectly chaotic filmography debate.🍅 “Roma—it’s about tomatoes.” — KT’s take on Alfonso Cuarón’s Oscar-nominated masterpiece.🎸 “Jonah Hill is great. Seymour Hoffman’s wonderful. But five minutes in, I’m yelling at the screen.” — Skin on the sports inaccuracies in Moneyball.💔 “Scientology, black magic, and a manipulative theologian—yep, it’s a Paul Thomas Anderson film.”Whether you're a cinephile, a casual moviegoer, or just here for the laughs, this episode is packed with hot takes, deep dives, and the kind of banter that only The Ben and Skin Show can deliver.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Juicy Moves, Hot Gods, every Stay on Top in the Woods,
shovel Roads.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Really great article that's kind of serving as our Jacob
de Grom for the week. This is the New York
Times Top one hundred movies since the year two thousand
and They got actors and directors in Hollywood people to
all fill out of ballot.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
There's a thing on there where you can fill out
your own belt. Do you know, off the top of
your head, how many there were five hundred? Oh, my god,
oh movies or no people?
Speaker 4 (00:37):
No people? Five hundred wow.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yeah, So we've gotten through quite a bit of it.
They're dropping the top twenty tomorrow, which I'm sure we'll
do tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
We got to fifty yesterday, which was the movie up.
Let's go to forty nine now. Richard Linkletter Boyhood No.
Two thousand and four before sunset.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Oh, this will be. That's the first one of the trilogy.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Ethan Hawk and Juliette what's her name, Julie Delpy, Julie Delpy.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I don't know. I never saw it's I don't know.
So it's a trilogy.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
It's it's an American and a French woman, and it's
about their love affair and then they do three of this.
I can tell you these movies had a huge impact
on my nephew. Okay, Like I saw a play he
did in high school and I'm watching it him, going,
did you watch Before sun Set recently? Because it's anyways.
Richard Linkletter's Great Filmmaker Number forty eight is The Lives
(01:32):
of Others. In two thousand and seven, it was voted
for by Matthew Wiener, the guy who did Mad Men.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
No, I don't really know.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Forty seven almost famous seeing that one, right.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
I've seen that one. That's a great movie. I still
will watch that anytime it's.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
On with you.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
And what Goldie Hawn's daughter, what's her name? Kate Hudson.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
I saw her doing an interview on this and she
said that this like launched her whole career. He was like,
that was a major breakthrough. And I don't think she
initially was was up for this part. I dig stuff
like this when you find out about things that happened
with casting. Yeah, she was trying to get a different
part and then ended up in that part and had
to beg to get it and then blew them away
and then it just launched her whole career really really cool.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I think it's a good movie.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
It's a great movie, and it's autobiographical of Cameron Crowe
and you know his whole story. Who is the band
it's supposed to be? Is it just like a reputation?
It's an amalgam of a bunch of different bands. But
I can't remember. I saw one time there was a
band that he toured with, and I can't remember who
it was now, but I think they just merged a
bunch of different bands together.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I didn't realize this was him until I saw The
Morning Show but Billy Crudup and then he's so good
in the Morning Show and I was like, Oh, what
else has he been in?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
It was like, oh, he was the guy who was
fou Yeah, OLDI or Kate Hudson's love interest.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Number forty six is a movie called Roma. It's about tomatoes.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
It was nominated for Best Picture, which one of us
saw this for when we did not, but.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
It was voted for by John Lithgow. I can tell
you that. So he had a lot of good things
to say about it. People are talking about the.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Things he was saying.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Everyone's saying it forty five Moneyball, it's good.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
I don't ever feel inclined to rewatch it, but I can't.
I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I couldn't imagine people who didn't like sportsking that movie.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
That feels like a very niche No to me, it's
people who don't really like sports, because if you like sports,
you're like, you're five minutes into the movie going, I
can't handle how wrong all this day they have to.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Stretch the reality to make it work for a movie.
It'd be super boring to have it be you.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Know what I mean, Yeah, yeah, yeah, And it's like,
you know, the performances at Brad Pitt's great, Jonah Hill
is great, the performances are.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Great, Suffin's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
But man, five minutes in and a guy shows up
to do a trade at a stadium, I'm just like,
I'm like, I can't.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Do the draft day tack going on.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah, number forty four, I can't believe I missed this one.
Once upon a time in Hollywood, it's awesome.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I dig it.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Our special guest Riley's over here is shaking her head. Yes,
there's a if you know a lot about that time
period in Hollywood as well, which I do you know
that's that's something. In fact, the other day I brought
up that Easy Writer's Raging Bulls book, which a lot
of the stuff that's in that movie is detailed in
that book. So Quentin Tarantino does that thing he does
(04:24):
where he takes a historical event and then completely fictionalizes
it and does it so over the top it's a fantasy.
And there's a line in that book I'm referencing where
it's Dennis Hopper and he's talking about people telling stories
in Hollywood from the late sixties in the early seventies,
and he's like, man, we were all on so many drugs.
(04:46):
If anybody tells you they remember what really happened rely
in Yeah, And so it's it's that kind of that
that thing where it's like he takes it so over
the top, there's nothing in there to make you think any.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Of it's real.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Dennis Hopper most known for his role in He's Your Writers, Oh,
Who's yours?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Speed? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah? He was in that Speed Yeah ye forty three
Old Boy two thousand and five movie.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
It's a movie by Park Chan Wook.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
John Taturo voted for it.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
I saw that on recently and didn't watch it. I like,
watched a couple of minutes of. I'm like, that's not
gonna do it for me.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
He says, it's romantic, it's disgusting, it's fun, but so
go watch it if you want to.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Forty two The Master twenty twelve. Pt. Andersen Uh okay.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
So I have a very complex relationship with the Native
movie to Be because I knew he made the movie
or wanted a movie to be because I knew he
made the movie around l Ron Hubbard scientology dianetics, and
I'd read a lot about that, and PT. Anderson is
one of my favorite directors, and so I was so
(05:56):
excited to see what he was going to do with it.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
And he didn't take it there.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
He instead made it about the manipulative relationship between like
a theologian and a guy that was down on his luck.
So again he turned it into something else. It's very very
long and very very methodical, and so when I saw it,
I was disappointed and it was long. I was like, ah,
that movie sucked. But now and then when I stumble
(06:24):
upon it on cable and I watched twenty minutes of
at a time, I'm like.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Okay, I get it.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah, this is really good, but man, it is it's laborious.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Forty one is Omaily from two thousand and one. We'll
pick it up in the next hour at forty Have
y' all seen that?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
No, no, I don't think I ever saw it.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
It's honestly and truly one of the greatest movies I've
ever seen. It's so it is an amazing performance. Visually,
you've never seen anything like it. It's French, but it
doesn't bother you at all. If you don't like subtitles,
you'll never think about him. It's a love story and
it is unlike any movie you've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
It's amazing. What a better love story than Roadhouse? Oh God? No, okay,
thank you now. Now I'll give you the credibility to
watch that. Okay. Coming up next, we're going to crank
up the wayback machine. This is coming up in just
over three minutes, so don't go anywhere.
Juicy Moves, Hot Gods, every Stay on Top in the Woods,
shovel Roads.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Really great article that's kind of serving as our Jacob
de Grom for the week. This is the New York
Times Top one hundred movies since the year two thousand
and They got actors and directors in Hollywood people to
all fill out of ballot.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
There's a thing on there where you can fill out
your own belt. Do you know, off the top of
your head, how many there were five hundred? Oh, my god,
oh movies or no people?
Speaker 4 (00:37):
No people? Five hundred wow.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yeah, So we've gotten through quite a bit of it.
They're dropping the top twenty tomorrow, which I'm sure we'll
do tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
We got to fifty yesterday, which was the movie up.
Let's go to forty nine now. Richard Linkletter Boyhood No.
Two thousand and four before sunset.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Oh, this will be. That's the first one of the trilogy.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Ethan Hawk and Juliette what's her name, Julie Delpy, Julie Delpy.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I don't know. I never saw it's I don't know.
So it's a trilogy.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
It's it's an American and a French woman, and it's
about their love affair and then they do three of this.
I can tell you these movies had a huge impact
on my nephew. Okay, Like I saw a play he
did in high school and I'm watching it him, going,
did you watch Before sun Set recently? Because it's anyways.
Richard Linkletter's Great Filmmaker Number forty eight is The Lives
(01:32):
of Others. In two thousand and seven, it was voted
for by Matthew Wiener, the guy who did Mad Men.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
No, I don't really know.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Forty seven almost famous seeing that one, right.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
I've seen that one. That's a great movie. I still
will watch that anytime it's.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
On with you.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
And what Goldie Hawn's daughter, what's her name? Kate Hudson.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
I saw her doing an interview on this and she
said that this like launched her whole career. He was like,
that was a major breakthrough. And I don't think she
initially was was up for this part. I dig stuff
like this when you find out about things that happened
with casting. Yeah, she was trying to get a different
part and then ended up in that part and had
to beg to get it and then blew them away
and then it just launched her whole career really really cool.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I think it's a good movie.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
It's a great movie, and it's autobiographical of Cameron Crowe
and you know his whole story. Who is the band
it's supposed to be? Is it just like a reputation?
It's an amalgam of a bunch of different bands. But
I can't remember. I saw one time there was a
band that he toured with, and I can't remember who
it was now, but I think they just merged a
bunch of different bands together.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I didn't realize this was him until I saw The
Morning Show but Billy Crudup and then he's so good
in the Morning Show and I was like, Oh, what
else has he been in?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
It was like, oh, he was the guy who was
fou Yeah, OLDI or Kate Hudson's love interest.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Number forty six is a movie called Roma. It's about tomatoes.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
It was nominated for Best Picture, which one of us
saw this for when we did not, but.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
It was voted for by John Lithgow. I can tell
you that. So he had a lot of good things
to say about it. People are talking about the.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Things he was saying.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Everyone's saying it forty five Moneyball, it's good.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
I don't ever feel inclined to rewatch it, but I can't.
I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I couldn't imagine people who didn't like sportsking that movie.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
That feels like a very niche No to me, it's
people who don't really like sports, because if you like sports,
you're like, you're five minutes into the movie going, I
can't handle how wrong all this day they have to.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Stretch the reality to make it work for a movie.
It'd be super boring to have it be you.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Know what I mean, Yeah, yeah, yeah, And it's like,
you know, the performances at Brad Pitt's great, Jonah Hill
is great, the performances are.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Great, Suffin's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
But man, five minutes in and a guy shows up
to do a trade at a stadium, I'm just like,
I'm like, I can't.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Do the draft day tack going on.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah, number forty four, I can't believe I missed this one.
Once upon a time in Hollywood, it's awesome.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I dig it.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Our special guest Riley's over here is shaking her head. Yes,
there's a if you know a lot about that time
period in Hollywood as well, which I do you know
that's that's something. In fact, the other day I brought
up that Easy Writer's Raging Bulls book, which a lot
of the stuff that's in that movie is detailed in
that book. So Quentin Tarantino does that thing he does
(04:24):
where he takes a historical event and then completely fictionalizes
it and does it so over the top it's a fantasy.
And there's a line in that book I'm referencing where
it's Dennis Hopper and he's talking about people telling stories
in Hollywood from the late sixties in the early seventies,
and he's like, man, we were all on so many drugs.
(04:46):
If anybody tells you they remember what really happened rely
in Yeah, And so it's it's that kind of that
that thing where it's like he takes it so over
the top, there's nothing in there to make you think any.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Of it's real.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Dennis Hopper most known for his role in He's Your Writers, Oh,
Who's yours?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Speed? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah? He was in that Speed Yeah ye forty three
Old Boy two thousand and five movie.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
It's a movie by Park Chan Wook.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
John Taturo voted for it.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
I saw that on recently and didn't watch it. I like,
watched a couple of minutes of. I'm like, that's not
gonna do it for me.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
He says, it's romantic, it's disgusting, it's fun, but so
go watch it if you want to.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Forty two The Master twenty twelve. Pt. Andersen Uh okay.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
So I have a very complex relationship with the Native
movie to Be because I knew he made the movie
or wanted a movie to be because I knew he
made the movie around l Ron Hubbard scientology dianetics, and
I'd read a lot about that, and PT. Anderson is
one of my favorite directors, and so I was so
(05:56):
excited to see what he was going to do with it.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
And he didn't take it there.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
He instead made it about the manipulative relationship between like
a theologian and a guy that was down on his luck.
So again he turned it into something else. It's very very
long and very very methodical, and so when I saw it,
I was disappointed and it was long. I was like, ah,
that movie sucked. But now and then when I stumble
(06:24):
upon it on cable and I watched twenty minutes of
at a time, I'm like.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Okay, I get it.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah, this is really good, but man, it is it's laborious.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Forty one is Omaily from two thousand and one. We'll
pick it up in the next hour at forty Have
y' all seen that?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
No, no, I don't think I ever saw it.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
It's honestly and truly one of the greatest movies I've
ever seen. It's so it is an amazing performance. Visually,
you've never seen anything like it. It's French, but it
doesn't bother you at all. If you don't like subtitles,
you'll never think about him. It's a love story and
it is unlike any movie you've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
It's amazing. What a better love story than Roadhouse? Oh God? No, okay,
thank you now. Now I'll give you the credibility to
watch that. Okay. Coming up next, we're going to crank
up the wayback machine. This is coming up in just
over three minutes, so don't go anywhere.
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